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Fairfax County: Illegal Aliens Good, U.S. Army Bad

By Greg L | 28 May 2008 | Patriotism, Fairfax County | 23 Comments

This is way too good to pass up:

[This] just makes it all the more galling then while [Fairfax County] welcome people who entered the country illegally, they cry poverty when the Army moves in with thousands of jobs in tow. The message seems to be that the children of illegal immigrants are welcome to Fairfax County schools, but the children of our fighting men and women are not.

And Gerry Connolly, the architect of this policy, is running for Congress?   On what, the Communist Party ticket? 

While Fairfax County welcomes illegal aliens, when the U.S. Army shows up with jobs and infrastructure improvements they’re declared to be a burden that Fairfax County cannot possibly sustain.  Here’s an option for the Army — come to Prince William County.  We’re already tremendously proud that we have the opportunity to host facilities for the United States Marine Corps, and we’d be utterly thrilled to host the United States Army as well.  Fairfax County can have all of our illegal aliens, and we’ll be happy to take the U.S. Army in return and be responsible for educating the children of active duty soldiers.  It’s a pleasure and a true honor to do so.

How can Gerry Connolly turn down a deal like this?  He gets all those illegals he seems to like so much, and removes all those pesky military families who aren’t going to vote for him anyways.  Let’s make a trade, Gerry!

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  1. No1Uknow said on 29 May 2008 at 7:40 am:
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    Oh, so the Army, military families who have members who may have fought for our freedoms, are not welcome? But the influx of 5 families into a single family home is? Just wait until these families send their 7 ESL kids to the school- and Fairfax has to pay double to educate them. 2 kids in a mil family =/= 7 non-English speaking kids.

    Good luck Fairfax. You’re going to need it.

  2. DPortM said on 29 May 2008 at 7:53 am:
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    The hyprocrisy of Gerry Connelly is astounding. Yes Fairfax County will welcome and pay for the illegal aliens - but Fairfax County cannot afford the influx of military families?

    First responders and those in the military are the most honorable people in our country. They risk their lives to protect us, our freedom, and our country.

    Gerry Connelly is a disgrace! And this man is aspiring to a higher political office?

  3. manassascityresident said on 29 May 2008 at 7:54 am:
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    To Army families -
    Come to PWC - we’ll welcome you with open arms, and we’d be PROUD to have you join our community!

  4. KP said on 29 May 2008 at 8:24 am:
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    What ever happened to the plan to move a bunch of Ft. Belvoir folks to the area next to the VRE at MP?

    [Ed note: Not happening. MP was a lousy site because there’s no easy way to get to Belvior from there. MP lost out early to other locations.]

  5. Not4Nothing said on 29 May 2008 at 9:11 am:
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    The US government used to assume some financial responsibility for localities with a lot of military families as a result of military bases etc. by subsidizing the local schools which these children would attend. I suspect they still do but don’t know for sure. It certainly made good sense.

    If this is still the case, it makes Fairfax County’s response even more stupid. Far from subsidizing areas impacted by large numbers of their illegal employees, most businesses that hire illegal aliens are pushing as much of the costs as they can onto the local community.

  6. Don Carr said on 29 May 2008 at 9:46 am:
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    Actually, MOST of the incoming employees are civil service and embedded contractors (also civilians, of course). Of the 19,300 incoming folks, only about 5,000 are uniformed military. That ratio is roughly the same as the ratio of the 23,000 people at Belvoir today. What that means is that the vast majority of them already are or will be contributing to the tax base (directly as homeowners or indirectly as renters), just like the rest of us.

    Of course, what has always intrigued me the most is why the school board and others won’t acknowledge that, of the 19,300 JOBS being shifted to Fort Belvoir from elsewhere in the NCR, approximately 18,800 of them are occupied by people who already live in the region. Even most of the 8,500 NGA folks whose jobs are moving to EPG from Bethesda and other NCR locales already live in Northern Virginia. For a GREAT many of these folks, their jobs are actually moving CLOSER to where they live. So our expectation is that they will NOT move their homes or transfer their kids.

    As most folks in this region realize when they actually think it through, we all live at the “seat of government.” There are more federal employees concentrated here than are concentrated anywhere else, because this is where their job is. To work here, as we all know, we live all over the place, from Richmond and beyond to the South, to Baltimore and beyond to the north. Unlike what BRAC is doing in other parts of the country (El Paso is getting 23,000 people in at Fort Bliss, all of whom really are coming from way outside that region, most of ‘em bringing along at least two kids and at least two cars), in THIS region, BRAC is just shuffling jobs around in a giant “shell game.”

    One more thing: it’s important to ANY discussion of BRAC impact here to consider that the very same BRAC law REMOVES from this region another 14,500 DOD jobs to places like Texas, Kentucky, Illinois, Ohio, etc. We can’t be concerned with how many kids BRAC will bring TO our schools without also giving equal consideration to what it will take FROM the schools - yet another point that seems to escape some people.

    Don Carr, Director of Public Affairs, Fort Belvoir

  7. snapped shot · now in ap-approved text mode said on 29 May 2008 at 9:51 am:
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    […] hop over and read the full article, which is full of plenty of juicy details. Greg over at BVBL has more excellent commentary as well. In other news, over in Gerry Connolly’s Town of Vienna, we have yet another instance of […]

  8. Dolph said on 29 May 2008 at 10:10 am:
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    Don Carr,

    Will you provide a key to those acronyms. I am trying to decode here.


  9. Dolph said on 29 May 2008 at 10:15 am:
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    In the days of instant communication, the federal government could get with the program and move much of the federal work away from DC. This move would do more to help the carbon footprints and the traffic problems than anything else.

    There is some tendency to do this in recent years (new FBI building for example) but it probably inconveniences members of Congress and the other big wigs. To them I say, Too bad!

  10. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 May 2008 at 10:15 am:
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    I am sure PWC wouldn’t sue them but instead welcome them with open arms!!! We could use the extra income for the county. The army should just say, OK, we will just take our people somewhere else and move to PWC!!

  11. MP Resident said on 29 May 2008 at 10:36 am:
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    “What ever happened to the plan to move a bunch of Ft. Belvoir folks to the area next to the VRE at MP?”

    That proposal was turned down by the Army. I have not heard what other proposal they did select, or if they yet selected one.

  12. MP Resident said on 29 May 2008 at 10:44 am:
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    In fact, the Blooms Grove project is no longer linked from American Building Corp’s web page:


    I had heard that they still wanted to build the residential portion of the development, but I do not believe that is in the best interests of Manassas Park.

  13. MP Resident said on 29 May 2008 at 10:45 am:
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    http://bloomsgrovestation.com/ is the page that they no longer link to.

  14. Lefty said on 29 May 2008 at 11:47 am:
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    Maybe I can help:

    NCA: National Capitol Region
    NGA: National Geo(something) Agency. Used to be Defense Mapping Agency but that wasn’t hi-tech enuf.
    EPA: Evergreen Proving Grounds (close to Fort Meade)
    BRAC: Base Realignment and Closing; like other acronyms, it’s become part of DoD lingo to use it as a noun, referring to the Commission that recommends which bases to close; as a verb, as in, “We’ve been BRACCED;” and as an adjective, “BRAC law.”

    DoD: Hopefully, even you know what this stands for. If not, go back to American Idol tapes and recount the ballots.

  15. Dolph said on 29 May 2008 at 12:22 pm:
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    Why Lefty, thank you for the decoding.

    Even *I* know what SNAFU and FUBAR mean also. It is UFB to assume that my knowledge extends no further than American Idol. I have left that all behind me and now I am doing blog user studies. AH 101.

    Those with more financial finess would view DoD as Dogs of the Dow.

  16. Lefty said on 29 May 2008 at 1:29 pm:
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    Correction, Dolph. EPG in this case stands for Engineering Proving Grounds, which is actually a part of Fort Belvoir.

  17. anon said on 29 May 2008 at 1:50 pm:
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    Replace “US Government” with “private developer” and Gerry Connolly will bend right over and ask for more. He knows he would get something out of it. No concern about the roads and schools then!

    Where do you think this sleezebag has been getting all of his campaign money for his congressional run? What the hell has he even done for Fairfax Co while supervisor?

    Well, at least he’s not as bad as Audrey Moore. She did worse than nothing by killing freeway plans. Didn’t want to turn Fairfax Co into LA. Yeah, it’s so much better now, Audrey. Thanks for the traffic situation today, you f’n idiot.

  18. Mando said on 29 May 2008 at 2:10 pm:
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    Fairfax is sounding more and more like Maryland/DC. That’s what happens when the Libs take over.

  19. Bob Wills said on 29 May 2008 at 3:33 pm:
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    Greg wrote in the comments

    While Fairfax County welcomes illegal aliens, when the U.S. Army shows up with jobs and infrastructure improvements they’re declared to be a burden that Fairfax County cannot possibly sustain. Here’s an option for the Army — come to Prince William County. We’re already tremendously proud that we have the opportunity to host facilities for the United States Marine Corps, and we’d be utterly thrilled to host the United States Army as well. Fairfax County can have all of our illegal aliens, and we’ll be happy to take the U.S. Army in return and be responsible for educating the children of active duty soldiers. It’s a pleasure and a true honor to do so

    Why would any military group want to come to PWC where a horse or jackass has more rights to shelter then an injured member of the Military or anyone else that might be disabled or aged. The only exception that is allowed for humans is a 3 foot ramp where as a horse or pig or anyother farm animal is allowed to erect a structure into the set back area of that property per the zoning laws. Of course PWC will allow you to ask for a variance and you pay the county about 300.00 plus the other expenses and time for such a request. There is one catch and that is the County will not and can not by law grant you a variance to any building and they know that is the law and will take you money and do nothing. Just another crooked government. Of course if a business took your money to do a service knowing they could not and would not do it it is called a crime.

  20. Ted said on 29 May 2008 at 3:41 pm:
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    NGA = National Geospatial Intelligence Agency

    Mapping and spy in the sky stuff.

  21. Red, White and Blue said on 30 May 2008 at 12:24 am:
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    To Fairfax residents who buy into Connolly, we will help you out by sending more illegals, the chickens and the multi-family single family homes, over crowded schools, more ESL teachers and a much longer wait at your local hospitals. Have a nice day but remember, you will feel much better.

    To Fairfax residents who oppose Connolly; it’s time change the dance card and send this guy to pasture. Like “free health care”, believe me, you can’t afford it.

    And to decry good paying jobs along with our military and welcome illegals is, well, nuts …but then again that is our “left” at work ….and in office.

  22. Don Carr said on 30 May 2008 at 1:49 am:
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    Sorry about the acronyms …

    NCR = National Capital Region
    NGA = National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
    EPG = Engineer Proving Ground
    BRAC = Base Realignment and Closure
    DOD = Department of Defense

  23. Don Carr said on 9 Jun 2008 at 6:57 am:
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    FYI, thought you might be interested …

    Recently a colleague and I visited with the editorial board of one of the region’s newspapers. Our main purpose was to provide background on BRAC at Fort Belvoir to help them understand the issues as they continue to cover the post in the various editions of their papers. Owing to recent media coverage, most of our discussion centered around the schools issue, as well as questions about 6,200 DOD jobs covered in BRAC Recommendation #133, part of the total 19,300 jobs being moved to Fort Belvoir.

    We began with discussion of the many ideas over the years for Fort Belvoir’s development, even pre-BRAC, in terms of what various elected and military leaders for nearly 20 years have seen as the best use of the post’s land and facilities. The editors seemed especially interested in the fact that what Fort Belvoir will become under BRAC 2005 realignment is really not any different from those long-held visions: that Fort Belvoir can be home to a great many agencies presently scattered in leased space “around the beltway,” saving the taxpayer millions in federal dollars now used to pay rent. BRAC 2005 actually formalizes that thinking, and stipulates that Fort Belvoir is to become the “major support platform” for military leadership in the region. Indeed, since the Army moved its Engineer center and school from Fort Belvoir in 1989 under previous BRAC legislation, the post has already been transformed into a major administrative, logistical and intelligence center. BRAC 2005 adds such functions to the post, promising even more efficient use of public resources entrusted to the DOD for providing national security.

    We emphasized that more than 95 percent of the people in the incoming jobs are already in the region. BRAC 133 best illustrate that. We pointed to an error in one recent article regarding extension of leases for rented space these agencies presently occupy in Crystal City, Reston and elsewhere around the beltway. We explained that BRAC 133 is part of the Headquarters and Support Activities section of the BRAC Commission’s Final Report. We explained how ONE of the agencies is the Washington Headquarters Service, whose work includes being “landlord” for the other DOD agencies. We explained that part of WHS’ mission includes being lead manager, or “executor,” to get the 6,200 jobs – including their own of a little over 1,000 – moved to Fort Belvoir. Since the article, we have taken query from other media and the public about whether the lease extensions mean the BRAC 133 move has been delayed. No. The leases were renewed simply because they were about to expire. The leases cover agencies beyond those of BRAC 133. These other agencies will stay put or go elsewhere after the BRAC 133 jobs move to Fort Belvoir.

    We discussed the schools issue and last year’s BRAC impact study by the Workforce Integration Board. There are those who believe the Army changed its projected number of students downward based on the WIB study. That isn’t so, of course. The WIB report’s release last summer was coincidental to release of the Army’s Final Environmental Impact Study. No one at Fort Belvoir or at Army even knew about the WIB study until it hit the streets. There is no basis to the idea that the WIB study prompted Army to lower its school figure from what was in the Draft EIS (3,258). In fact, that number carried forward because it is tied to the number of jobs moving to Belvoir. Indeed, the reduced projection in the FEIS is just more than five times greater than what the WIB study projects. While WIB projects “about 50 students” coming into Fairfax County with BRAC, the FEIS suggests 267, demonstrating the two reports aren’t related.

    What’s different in the FEIS is the more complete analysis and discussion of 14,500 DOD jobs BRAC 2005 takes completely from this region to Texas, Kentucky, Illinois, Ohio, and elsewhere. It also describes the extent to which nearly all of the 19,300 jobs moving to Fort Belvoir are filled by people who already live here, whose school children are already enrolled here. We described for the editorial board Dr Jack Dale’s “Where will they live?” point in which he is on record saying that, to know what school infrastructure is needed, Fairfax County Public Schools and the school board are largely dependent on local government’s planning & zoning decisions on where houses will be built. One of the editors commented that she understands the issue, considering that she lives in Columbia, Md., and commutes to work in Reston every day. I could only smile, realizing her realization!

    I did express my own dismay over how there are those who hang onto the 3,258 from the DRAFT study released in the Spring of 2007 – reinforcing the credibility of that number every time they use it – and yet, they completely discount any of the follow-on work. So MUCH of that work was prompted by community response to the draft which helped the Army realize it’s shortcoming in the first place. Yet many continue to ignore the later work. Indeed, just this week, one media account quoted one official saying, “the school board and staff largely distrust the accuracy of the Army’s figures …,” an absolutely stunning point when you consider that the 3,258 number itself is an ARMY figure! I asked the editorial board to consider the question, “How is only that number credible, but not the more precise, additional data?”

    The board asked us questions like, “What about the contractors that will move here?” and “What about new employees that come later when the current employees retire or move on?” To the former, we answered we have no real visibility on what commercial businesses may or may not decide to do. I said I can only assume that would be a good thing for the region’s tax base and plans of the community and its leadership for the region’s revitalization. To the latter, we said that, in the National Capital Region – the seat of the federal government – the workforce ebbs and flows continually and often dramatically. That isn’t driven at all by BRAC, nor is it even particularly unique to DOD or the military installations here. Federal employment practice often means replacements are hired from outside the region, and move here with their kids and cars. But, that’s true whether their job is at the Department of Justice or Department of Defense, in Crystal City or at Fort Belvoir.

    The editorial board meeting ended with questions about proposed legislation that would delay the BRAC realignment of Walter Reed Army Medical Center and construction of the new hospital at Fort Belvoir. We said we can’t speak to that, since the legislation is only in draft. Our work continues, to include construction of the hospital. A reporter asked whether we would put people in trailers if the hospital and other new buildings aren’t finished on time. I told him the buildings will be up. He said people keep telling him there is no penalty if we don’t finish by September 2011. To speak to that would be hypothetical, I told him, because, again, the point is we will finish on time. That’s the law.

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