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	<title>Comments on: Manassas Billboard Headed To Court</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-70500</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-70500</guid>
		<description>It really bothers me when I see these comments about the USA being "stolen" and/or the land of Aztlan being "stolen." They always try to make it sound like it's all about "their" land. None of this has anything to do with land. Mexico has no shortage of land. There are MANY countries that are much more densely populated, and the population density of Mexico isn't much higher than that of the USA. 

I don't consider the USA to be stolen land, but suppose we were to agree to be neighborly and gave them back the entire US southwest, EXACTLY AS IT EXISTED WHEN IT WAS "STOLEN." Suppose we could magically wipe it all back to barren land...no homes, businesses, industry, roads, public services...just he virgin land they so desperately want back. Then suppose that, at the same time the land was turned over, we could also magically wall that off from what was left of the USA. 

Would they be satisfied to have "their" land back and take responsibility for it to make it into the paradise they assume it could have been, or would they be climbing the wall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really bothers me when I see these comments about the USA being &#8220;stolen&#8221; and/or the land of Aztlan being &#8220;stolen.&#8221; They always try to make it sound like it&#8217;s all about &#8220;their&#8221; land. None of this has anything to do with land. Mexico has no shortage of land. There are MANY countries that are much more densely populated, and the population density of Mexico isn&#8217;t much higher than that of the USA. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider the USA to be stolen land, but suppose we were to agree to be neighborly and gave them back the entire US southwest, EXACTLY AS IT EXISTED WHEN IT WAS &#8220;STOLEN.&#8221; Suppose we could magically wipe it all back to barren land&#8230;no homes, businesses, industry, roads, public services&#8230;just he virgin land they so desperately want back. Then suppose that, at the same time the land was turned over, we could also magically wall that off from what was left of the USA. </p>
<p>Would they be satisfied to have &#8220;their&#8221; land back and take responsibility for it to make it into the paradise they assume it could have been, or would they be climbing the wall?</p>
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		<title>By: WayOffCourse</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-70253</link>
		<dc:creator>WayOffCourse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-70253</guid>
		<description>The USA has a long and rich history of war, genocide (against native peoples), slavery, racism and exploitation of immigrants.  Haven't any of you ever read a history book?  

Why is it so hard for modern-day Americans to acknowledge the sins of their past?  

I'm not saying this country isn't deserving of redemption.  It is.  There have always been and will continue to be courageous Americans who will go against the tide and work to make this country better for future generations. 

So this man puts up a sign (on his private property) airing his grievances with perceived injustices committed by the county and city he lives in.  Contrary to the outrageous claims by some previous posters, the sign does not explicitly display any specific hate speech or incite a call to violence.  So what gives?  Does the first amendment of the US Constitution have no significance anymore? This is a clearly a case of the  local authorities attempting to suppress a citizen's constitutional right to free speech through the dubious use of a technicality regarding building permits or some other trivial matter ... all because they don't want to be publicly embarrassed by the exposure of their policies and actions. Well, you reap what you sow.

I somewhat agree that PWC's immigrations policies, as draconian and heavy-handed as they are, aren't really the equivalent of the gross atrocities committed by the KKK, but the mans' tendency toward exaggeration can be addressed in a more constructive and civilized manner than advocating trespass and destruction of his property.

To John Burton:

Advocating vandalism and destruction is not an act of civil disobedience.  Anyone who claims so does not understand the nature of civil disobedience.  Mr. Fernandez is a private citizen, not a civil authority ... meaning he's not "the man."  Stop being so irresponsible in your statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA has a long and rich history of war, genocide (against native peoples), slavery, racism and exploitation of immigrants.  Haven&#8217;t any of you ever read a history book?  </p>
<p>Why is it so hard for modern-day Americans to acknowledge the sins of their past?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying this country isn&#8217;t deserving of redemption.  It is.  There have always been and will continue to be courageous Americans who will go against the tide and work to make this country better for future generations. </p>
<p>So this man puts up a sign (on his private property) airing his grievances with perceived injustices committed by the county and city he lives in.  Contrary to the outrageous claims by some previous posters, the sign does not explicitly display any specific hate speech or incite a call to violence.  So what gives?  Does the first amendment of the US Constitution have no significance anymore? This is a clearly a case of the  local authorities attempting to suppress a citizen&#8217;s constitutional right to free speech through the dubious use of a technicality regarding building permits or some other trivial matter &#8230; all because they don&#8217;t want to be publicly embarrassed by the exposure of their policies and actions. Well, you reap what you sow.</p>
<p>I somewhat agree that PWC&#8217;s immigrations policies, as draconian and heavy-handed as they are, aren&#8217;t really the equivalent of the gross atrocities committed by the KKK, but the mans&#8217; tendency toward exaggeration can be addressed in a more constructive and civilized manner than advocating trespass and destruction of his property.</p>
<p>To John Burton:</p>
<p>Advocating vandalism and destruction is not an act of civil disobedience.  Anyone who claims so does not understand the nature of civil disobedience.  Mr. Fernandez is a private citizen, not a civil authority &#8230; meaning he&#8217;s not &#8220;the man.&#8221;  Stop being so irresponsible in your statements.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burton</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-68104</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-68104</guid>
		<description>Greg, I respect what you are doing, and recognize that it takes courage.

I just beleive this sign is spouting hatred towards a segment of the community. It is disrespectfull of our heritage and culture.

It is NOT pro-immigrant it is ANTI-european.

It needs to be brought down by citizens as a demonstration that we will NOT be treated this way.

I realize that you can not condone illegal actions on your site, and have never done so. (Though I think destroying the wall is civil disobience and protest).
 I will respect that by not posting any farther on your site.
Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I respect what you are doing, and recognize that it takes courage.</p>
<p>I just beleive this sign is spouting hatred towards a segment of the community. It is disrespectfull of our heritage and culture.</p>
<p>It is NOT pro-immigrant it is ANTI-european.</p>
<p>It needs to be brought down by citizens as a demonstration that we will NOT be treated this way.</p>
<p>I realize that you can not condone illegal actions on your site, and have never done so. (Though I think destroying the wall is civil disobience and protest).<br />
 I will respect that by not posting any farther on your site.<br />
Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-68099</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-68099</guid>
		<description>It is not a matter of a lack of courage to destroy this, it is a respect for the law that would prohibit such activities.  The way to resolve an issue of unlawful behavior is not to engage in further unlawful behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not a matter of a lack of courage to destroy this, it is a respect for the law that would prohibit such activities.  The way to resolve an issue of unlawful behavior is not to engage in further unlawful behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burton</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-68095</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-68095</guid>
		<description>Why the hell is this wall still standing!?!?
It is hate speech dirrected at White Amaricans. 
It is NOT pro immigration, it is just insulting rhetoric to MY ancestors.

Does no one have the courage to simply destroy it?
Why?

We need to join together. Pick a day and DO IT.
It needs to be brought down.

Anyone willing to do so?....

....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the hell is this wall still standing!?!?<br />
It is hate speech dirrected at White Amaricans.<br />
It is NOT pro immigration, it is just insulting rhetoric to MY ancestors.</p>
<p>Does no one have the courage to simply destroy it?<br />
Why?</p>
<p>We need to join together. Pick a day and DO IT.<br />
It needs to be brought down.</p>
<p>Anyone willing to do so?&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-67884</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-67884</guid>
		<description>aTeacher, I know this is a very late post, so no one will likely read it, but if I remember Greek slaves at one time in the democratic development process were given the right to vote (I think partially however 1 citizen vote = 2 non-citizen votes was the law passed by the Greek Senate senate.) They were generally educated in the home of their owners and children were often educated with the owner's children. If there was cruelty, I read it was not wide-spread and members of any given greek household were generally treated with respectl, they were just not paid for their labor as slaves. I could be wrong about these historical generalities as I am no expert on Greek slavery. I believe they would have been pro-individual and pro-choice if you had the right to vote.  Women in Greek society however if I remember were not declared citizens and therefore had no voting rights.  I agree it would have been difficult to live as a woman at that time, but I believe they also owned property and had rights to family wealth, &#38; huge dowerys. Religion has always interfered with a woman's right to choose. That has not changed even today based on most religious doctrines as I understand them, except rights under common law and "Individual Rights" of the US Constitution (thank God)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aTeacher, I know this is a very late post, so no one will likely read it, but if I remember Greek slaves at one time in the democratic development process were given the right to vote (I think partially however 1 citizen vote = 2 non-citizen votes was the law passed by the Greek Senate senate.) They were generally educated in the home of their owners and children were often educated with the owner&#8217;s children. If there was cruelty, I read it was not wide-spread and members of any given greek household were generally treated with respectl, they were just not paid for their labor as slaves. I could be wrong about these historical generalities as I am no expert on Greek slavery. I believe they would have been pro-individual and pro-choice if you had the right to vote.  Women in Greek society however if I remember were not declared citizens and therefore had no voting rights.  I agree it would have been difficult to live as a woman at that time, but I believe they also owned property and had rights to family wealth, &amp; huge dowerys. Religion has always interfered with a woman&#8217;s right to choose. That has not changed even today based on most religious doctrines as I understand them, except rights under common law and &#8220;Individual Rights&#8221; of the US Constitution (thank God)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66451</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 02:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66451</guid>
		<description>Ateacher, if I remember my Classical Greek History properly, the pure democracy of the Golden Age of Greece was actually only made possible by the institution of slavery, which is what makes pure democracy an impractical form of government...and a contradiction in terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ateacher, if I remember my Classical Greek History properly, the pure democracy of the Golden Age of Greece was actually only made possible by the institution of slavery, which is what makes pure democracy an impractical form of government&#8230;and a contradiction in terms.</p>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66450</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66450</guid>
		<description>Michael I read what you said on 5/29 at 12:35 and I find it interesting. How did the Greeks encompass these ideals into their education processes?  Were their slaves afforded any education or freedoms?  What about their children?  How were they educated? If we apply the principles you described..would democracy be pro-choice or anti-choice?  Would religion ever interfere with a woman's right to choose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael I read what you said on 5/29 at 12:35 and I find it interesting. How did the Greeks encompass these ideals into their education processes?  Were their slaves afforded any education or freedoms?  What about their children?  How were they educated? If we apply the principles you described..would democracy be pro-choice or anti-choice?  Would religion ever interfere with a woman&#8217;s right to choose?</p>
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		<title>By: silverfox</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66448</link>
		<dc:creator>silverfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66448</guid>
		<description>Let's be careful to not get too hopeful that anything will really change. I'm with Maureen.  If it has taken these city officials 2 years to push this rock down the path, how long will it actually take to the push  the rock up the mountain? Shall we begin the countdown?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be careful to not get too hopeful that anything will really change. I&#8217;m with Maureen.  If it has taken these city officials 2 years to push this rock down the path, how long will it actually take to the push  the rock up the mountain? Shall we begin the countdown?</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66413</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66413</guid>
		<description>I want proof that the city is going to take legal action on this. It was suggested by staff MONTHS ago that legal action be taken and yet NOTHING was done. Won't believe it 'til I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want proof that the city is going to take legal action on this. It was suggested by staff MONTHS ago that legal action be taken and yet NOTHING was done. Won&#8217;t believe it &#8217;til I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Red, White and Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66346</link>
		<dc:creator>Red, White and Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66346</guid>
		<description>Nothing destroys  a nation faster than millions of illegal aliens who refuse to join the very nation that is feeding them, giving them a free education, free health care (both of the latter by the Supreme Court), protections they never had in their own countries and then wave their flags in our faces and claim we are illegals, killers, slave owners and murderers all in the name of wanting to be "good citizens" by trying to make me feel like I am bad and owe them something they did not earn, did not respect and are not entitled to. 

Read what Teddy Roosevelt said about immigration, language and the borders. Read the Constitution and the protections it affords its CITIZENS.

That is my free speech and it is the truth. I  don't have to listen to some stupid, ignorant rant about how bad we (I) am. That sign can go to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing destroys  a nation faster than millions of illegal aliens who refuse to join the very nation that is feeding them, giving them a free education, free health care (both of the latter by the Supreme Court), protections they never had in their own countries and then wave their flags in our faces and claim we are illegals, killers, slave owners and murderers all in the name of wanting to be &#8220;good citizens&#8221; by trying to make me feel like I am bad and owe them something they did not earn, did not respect and are not entitled to. </p>
<p>Read what Teddy Roosevelt said about immigration, language and the borders. Read the Constitution and the protections it affords its CITIZENS.</p>
<p>That is my free speech and it is the truth. I  don&#8217;t have to listen to some stupid, ignorant rant about how bad we (I) am. That sign can go to hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66338</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66338</guid>
		<description>Perhaps you should read Thomas Jefferson's concerns about "individual" rights, instead of group rights, or Ben Franklin, or John Adams.

Nothing will destroy a nation faster than group political advocacy along racial, gender, religious or ethnic group lines of group supremacy and self-interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should read Thomas Jefferson&#8217;s concerns about &#8220;individual&#8221; rights, instead of group rights, or Ben Franklin, or John Adams.</p>
<p>Nothing will destroy a nation faster than group political advocacy along racial, gender, religious or ethnic group lines of group supremacy and self-interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66337</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66337</guid>
		<description>SA you may just have deaf ears. If you think I'm saying nothing then tell me what you think needs to be discussed instead about this national identity and multiculturalism issue.

Do you have a better explaination for why the rest of the world is fighting ethnic and religious wars?  Do you firmly believe these issues of ethnic hatred and ethnic superiority do not exist here in the US?

Do you believe that racial, religious, gender and ethnic groups should proliferate and advocate only for their own politcal agendas (as they are) without taking care of everyone equally?

Would it make sense to you if one of these ethnic, gender, racial, and religious group's that advocate and demand special privilege and laws that apply only to them was a "white power" political advocacy group? 

I'm telling you ALL of them are wrong and hateful.  Do you disagree that these groups should not be allowed to operate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SA you may just have deaf ears. If you think I&#8217;m saying nothing then tell me what you think needs to be discussed instead about this national identity and multiculturalism issue.</p>
<p>Do you have a better explaination for why the rest of the world is fighting ethnic and religious wars?  Do you firmly believe these issues of ethnic hatred and ethnic superiority do not exist here in the US?</p>
<p>Do you believe that racial, religious, gender and ethnic groups should proliferate and advocate only for their own politcal agendas (as they are) without taking care of everyone equally?</p>
<p>Would it make sense to you if one of these ethnic, gender, racial, and religious group&#8217;s that advocate and demand special privilege and laws that apply only to them was a &#8220;white power&#8221; political advocacy group? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m telling you ALL of them are wrong and hateful.  Do you disagree that these groups should not be allowed to operate?</p>
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		<title>By: save america</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66333</link>
		<dc:creator>save america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66333</guid>
		<description>I think "Michael" writes too much and says nothing on the topic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;Michael&#8221; writes too much and says nothing on the topic</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66312</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66312</guid>
		<description>Freedom and Democracy does not promote that is is OK to seek politcal advantage and advocacy using ethnic, racial, gender and religious group self-segration and alignment to gain economic and social advantage or to make laws that benefit only one gender, racial, religious or ethnic group over all other individuals (so called "protected classes").

Such concepts will destroy Democracy, hurt all individuals and remove individual freedoms and protection for ALL under fair and equitable laws, resulting in a conflicted and warring society align along racial, gender, religious and ethnic group lines.

What do you think is happening in this national presidential election?  Destruction of "integration", Freedom and Democracy and replacement by political "factions" aligned along racial, gender, religious and ethnic group lines of advocacy.  THAT leads to "facism" and militant signs like the one above.

Most of you "social engineers" just don't get this concept of impending national destruction, because you don't notice it happening in the rest of the world's religious, racial, and ethnic group wars. It has come home to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom and Democracy does not promote that is is OK to seek politcal advantage and advocacy using ethnic, racial, gender and religious group self-segration and alignment to gain economic and social advantage or to make laws that benefit only one gender, racial, religious or ethnic group over all other individuals (so called &#8220;protected classes&#8221;).</p>
<p>Such concepts will destroy Democracy, hurt all individuals and remove individual freedoms and protection for ALL under fair and equitable laws, resulting in a conflicted and warring society align along racial, gender, religious and ethnic group lines.</p>
<p>What do you think is happening in this national presidential election?  Destruction of &#8220;integration&#8221;, Freedom and Democracy and replacement by political &#8220;factions&#8221; aligned along racial, gender, religious and ethnic group lines of advocacy.  THAT leads to &#8220;facism&#8221; and militant signs like the one above.</p>
<p>Most of you &#8220;social engineers&#8221; just don&#8217;t get this concept of impending national destruction, because you don&#8217;t notice it happening in the rest of the world&#8217;s religious, racial, and ethnic group wars. It has come home to America.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66310</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66310</guid>
		<description>Yankee Boy said on 29 May 2008 at 11:39 am:

You might want to check your own local ordinances, Boy, and see what is allowed and NOT ALLOWED in historic districts...assuming, of course, that you don't live in a totally primitive area with absolutely no historic districts so the issue is not addressed.  If I'm reading correctly, you are advocating breaking the law...is that a distinguishing feature of Yankees?  Is lack of appropriate vocabulary also a distinguishing feature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yankee Boy said on 29 May 2008 at 11:39 am:</p>
<p>You might want to check your own local ordinances, Boy, and see what is allowed and NOT ALLOWED in historic districts&#8230;assuming, of course, that you don&#8217;t live in a totally primitive area with absolutely no historic districts so the issue is not addressed.  If I&#8217;m reading correctly, you are advocating breaking the law&#8230;is that a distinguishing feature of Yankees?  Is lack of appropriate vocabulary also a distinguishing feature?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66309</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom according to the concept of Greek democracy, is a gift only to individuals.  It opposes all political oppression along ethnic, racial, gender, religious group lines. It is individual "freedom" to not be oppressed by any self-identifying group, advocating the use and exercise of "diverse" laws, and to not be oppressed and forced into conflict by social division into "political groups" that advocate for complete political control and dominance over all other racial, ethnic, gender, and religious groups that don't belong to their own.  Freedom is the basic right for each individual to be a "member" of an "integrated" and culturally "united" and politically "united" nation, in those days known as "Greece" and "Greecians", where a multitude of "captured" cultures were politcally and socially "integrated" under a "common" law obeyed by all.  "diversity", "disintegration", "factionism", and "political" and "cultural" separatism, was not part of the Greek equation of Freedom and Democracy.

Freedom did not equal "diversity" and "ethnic group" political power. In the Greek Senate, Freedom and Democracy equaled "individual" rights (only), common law and integration".  Out of many, one.  Not out of many, many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom according to the concept of Greek democracy, is a gift only to individuals.  It opposes all political oppression along ethnic, racial, gender, religious group lines. It is individual &#8220;freedom&#8221; to not be oppressed by any self-identifying group, advocating the use and exercise of &#8220;diverse&#8221; laws, and to not be oppressed and forced into conflict by social division into &#8220;political groups&#8221; that advocate for complete political control and dominance over all other racial, ethnic, gender, and religious groups that don&#8217;t belong to their own.  Freedom is the basic right for each individual to be a &#8220;member&#8221; of an &#8220;integrated&#8221; and culturally &#8220;united&#8221; and politically &#8220;united&#8221; nation, in those days known as &#8220;Greece&#8221; and &#8220;Greecians&#8221;, where a multitude of &#8220;captured&#8221; cultures were politcally and socially &#8220;integrated&#8221; under a &#8220;common&#8221; law obeyed by all.  &#8220;diversity&#8221;, &#8220;disintegration&#8221;, &#8220;factionism&#8221;, and &#8220;political&#8221; and &#8220;cultural&#8221; separatism, was not part of the Greek equation of Freedom and Democracy.</p>
<p>Freedom did not equal &#8220;diversity&#8221; and &#8220;ethnic group&#8221; political power. In the Greek Senate, Freedom and Democracy equaled &#8220;individual&#8221; rights (only), common law and integration&#8221;.  Out of many, one.  Not out of many, many.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66306</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66306</guid>
		<description>If you do not focus only on "individual rights", only on following the "law" applied equally to all regardless of ethnic, gender, racial and religious group" and DEMAND "integration" of individuals into a common society, "privilege" based only on talent, skills, ability and intelligence blind to racial, gender, religious and ethnic group identity and political advocacy, then you will yourself, be the very racist, facist, and privilege seeking racial, gender, religious and ethnic group you so clearly denounce, seek conflict with, self-segregate from, and hate when you are not the majority.

Truth: I am way distant from being a "facist".  I'm trying to save my Nation from self destruction and disintegration from within as a result of its recent belief in destructive socialist ideologies.

I belong to NO ethnic, racial, gender or religious group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not focus only on &#8220;individual rights&#8221;, only on following the &#8220;law&#8221; applied equally to all regardless of ethnic, gender, racial and religious group&#8221; and DEMAND &#8220;integration&#8221; of individuals into a common society, &#8220;privilege&#8221; based only on talent, skills, ability and intelligence blind to racial, gender, religious and ethnic group identity and political advocacy, then you will yourself, be the very racist, facist, and privilege seeking racial, gender, religious and ethnic group you so clearly denounce, seek conflict with, self-segregate from, and hate when you are not the majority.</p>
<p>Truth: I am way distant from being a &#8220;facist&#8221;.  I&#8217;m trying to save my Nation from self destruction and disintegration from within as a result of its recent belief in destructive socialist ideologies.</p>
<p>I belong to NO ethnic, racial, gender or religious group.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66305</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66305</guid>
		<description>First let's understand what "facism" is:

Fascism is a government, faction, movement, or political philosophy that raises nationalism, and frequently race, above the individual and is characterized by a centralized autocratic state governed by a dictatorial head, stringent organization of the economy and society, and aggressive repression of opposition.[1] In addition to placing the interests of the individual as subordinate to that of the nation or race, fascism seeks to achieve a national rebirth by promoting cults of unity, energy and purity.[2][3][4][5]

Fascists promote a type of national unity that is usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, national, racial, and/or religious attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: patriotism, nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, economic planning (including corporatism and autarky), populism, collectivism, autocracy and anti-liberalism (i.e., opposition to political and economic liberalism).[6][7][8][9][10][11][12]

The key element in understanding this concept is promotion of a national unity that is based on ethnic, cultural, national, racial or religious attributes.  In other words "separate" yourselfs into self-identifying ethnic and religious groups, demand separation into ethnic groups by law and legal advocacy, demand privilege, organize into ethnic aligned social and political groups and then refer to your group as "us" and "them".  i.e. We "demand" that you allow us to claim we are the "real" native Americans.  "You" are the oppressors because you will not allow us to segregate into our own ethnic and political groups to defeat you.  You will not a allow "us" to break "your" laws.  And if you try to stop our cultural revolution, self segregation, refusal to integrate, and not give us our demands for ethnic privilege, we will call you "facists", "racists" and members of the KKK.

Funny how every militant group advocating "black power", or "brown power", "red power", "yellow power" or "religious power" sees only the "other" group" as the KKK. Oops..what we are really saying is you are "bad" if you are a majority, and you are only bad if you are "white". 

Ignorance, complete ignorance of what "facism and "racism" really means.  "racism" is ANY political entity aligned along racial and ethnic group lines advocating for their own special privileges and "laws" while trying to  oppress and destroy all other "individuals" not part of their ethnic or racial group using concepts that promote your ethnic group supremacy using a concept of "diversity" that really means "privilege" and "advantage" and "racial" balancing so you get 50% or more political leverage and power even if your ethnic group only represents 10% of the individuals in a nation.

When you see it, you need to denounce it, because it will lead to war and conflict.  You have only to look at the rest of the world's religious and ethnic wars to know this.

The cancer is group segregation, cultural and ethnic group political identification and "diversity" advocacy rather than "integration" advocacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let&#8217;s understand what &#8220;facism&#8221; is:</p>
<p>Fascism is a government, faction, movement, or political philosophy that raises nationalism, and frequently race, above the individual and is characterized by a centralized autocratic state governed by a dictatorial head, stringent organization of the economy and society, and aggressive repression of opposition.[1] In addition to placing the interests of the individual as subordinate to that of the nation or race, fascism seeks to achieve a national rebirth by promoting cults of unity, energy and purity.[2][3][4][5]</p>
<p>Fascists promote a type of national unity that is usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, national, racial, and/or religious attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: patriotism, nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, economic planning (including corporatism and autarky), populism, collectivism, autocracy and anti-liberalism (i.e., opposition to political and economic liberalism).[6][7][8][9][10][11][12]</p>
<p>The key element in understanding this concept is promotion of a national unity that is based on ethnic, cultural, national, racial or religious attributes.  In other words &#8220;separate&#8221; yourselfs into self-identifying ethnic and religious groups, demand separation into ethnic groups by law and legal advocacy, demand privilege, organize into ethnic aligned social and political groups and then refer to your group as &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221;.  i.e. We &#8220;demand&#8221; that you allow us to claim we are the &#8220;real&#8221; native Americans.  &#8220;You&#8221; are the oppressors because you will not allow us to segregate into our own ethnic and political groups to defeat you.  You will not a allow &#8220;us&#8221; to break &#8220;your&#8221; laws.  And if you try to stop our cultural revolution, self segregation, refusal to integrate, and not give us our demands for ethnic privilege, we will call you &#8220;facists&#8221;, &#8220;racists&#8221; and members of the KKK.</p>
<p>Funny how every militant group advocating &#8220;black power&#8221;, or &#8220;brown power&#8221;, &#8220;red power&#8221;, &#8220;yellow power&#8221; or &#8220;religious power&#8221; sees only the &#8220;other&#8221; group&#8221; as the KKK. Oops..what we are really saying is you are &#8220;bad&#8221; if you are a majority, and you are only bad if you are &#8220;white&#8221;. </p>
<p>Ignorance, complete ignorance of what &#8220;facism and &#8220;racism&#8221; really means.  &#8220;racism&#8221; is ANY political entity aligned along racial and ethnic group lines advocating for their own special privileges and &#8220;laws&#8221; while trying to  oppress and destroy all other &#8220;individuals&#8221; not part of their ethnic or racial group using concepts that promote your ethnic group supremacy using a concept of &#8220;diversity&#8221; that really means &#8220;privilege&#8221; and &#8220;advantage&#8221; and &#8220;racial&#8221; balancing so you get 50% or more political leverage and power even if your ethnic group only represents 10% of the individuals in a nation.</p>
<p>When you see it, you need to denounce it, because it will lead to war and conflict.  You have only to look at the rest of the world&#8217;s religious and ethnic wars to know this.</p>
<p>The cancer is group segregation, cultural and ethnic group political identification and &#8220;diversity&#8221; advocacy rather than &#8220;integration&#8221; advocacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/28/manassas-billboard-headed-to-court/#comment-66298</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sign is clearly a militant symbol for ethnic group hatred and intended to incite hatred, anger and disintegration of national identity along ethnic group advocacy lines in favor of ethnic group self-segregation and privilege. 
That is why it is so wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sign is clearly a militant symbol for ethnic group hatred and intended to incite hatred, anger and disintegration of national identity along ethnic group advocacy lines in favor of ethnic group self-segregation and privilege.<br />
That is why it is so wrong.</p>
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