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Murder Suspect Caught And Is An Illegal Alien

By Greg L | 6 June 2008 | Crime, Manassas City | 34 Comments

The Manassas City Police Department has released a statement indicating that murder suspect Sebastian Cortez Hernandez was apprehended outside of New Haven, Connecticut (a sanctuary jurisdiction) and is an illegal alien from Mexico previously deported in 2003 after being convicted of criminal gang participation.  I had the feeling this was coming.

Subject: UPDATE: Homicide Suspect Apprehended

Manassas City Press Release

On 6-5-08: Sebastian Cortez HERNANDEZ was apprehended at approximately 11:00 pm by U.S. Marshals in Meriden, Connecticut.
Apprehended with him were two other subjects that were wanted in connection to this murder.

Jose Antonio Ontiveros 27, and Santos Ontiveros 24, of 9733 Bragg Lane, Manassas. Both have been charged with Murder and Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Felony.

It was discovered during the investigation Sebastian Cortez Hernandez was arrested by Prince William County Police in June of 2003 on charges of Gang Participation and other criminal offenses. According to records Hernandez was deported in October 2003 from the United States to Mexico.

Within the huge sea of illegal aliens unlawfully residing in our community are some extremely disturbing characters.  If government, at all levels, had done their job to keep illegal aliens out of our country Omar Florencio-Vazquez would still be alive.  This crime was 100% preventable.

UPDATE: The MJM has more on this here.



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34 Comments

  1. Just Cause said on 6 Jun 2008 at 2:30 pm: Flag comment

    If he was deported in 2003 for gang Activity and he is caught again now illegally and since he committed another but serious crime, wont he HAVE to serve his time in the states and avoid deportation this time??

    this is freaking me out….

  2. Taco Truck Ted said on 6 Jun 2008 at 3:05 pm: Flag comment

    No, he will be enrolled in the new “Juan’s Taco Truck works program” Upon completion of class study in Espanol he will be given his own Taco Truck fully stocked with delicious tacos and burritos.

  3. Gnarly said on 6 Jun 2008 at 3:14 pm: Flag comment

    Where’s Clair to put her pathetic spin on this?

    Guess we won’t see her again until next General Assembly session here telling everyone how hateful we are for wanting the laws enforced in PWC.

  4. Just Cause said on 6 Jun 2008 at 3:22 pm: Flag comment

    I’m being serious..Wont he have to serve some time because he was recaptured AND the fact he is a Criminal illegal ?

  5. Che said on 6 Jun 2008 at 3:35 pm: Flag comment

    Taco Truck Ted said on 6 Jun 2008 at 3:05 pm:
    No, he will be enrolled in the new “Juan’s Taco Truck works program” Upon completion of class study in Espanol he will be given his own Taco Truck fully stocked with delicious tacos and burritos.

    What about chalupas? If you stock them, Krusty will be running after the truck with money in hand, like a kid chasing the ice cream man.

  6. DPortM said on 6 Jun 2008 at 3:52 pm: Flag comment

    I am not surprised that this murderer is (a) a gang banger, (b) an illegal alien, and (c) a previously deported felon.

    100 cheers for the federal marshall’s who collared them. Can all three of the men captured be awarded the death penalty for committing this crime? Please say yes!

  7. Dave in PWC said on 6 Jun 2008 at 4:28 pm: Flag comment

    This illegal won’t be getting out of jail for awhile, I’m sure no bail will be set and if it is he will have an ICE hold put on him, if he gets convicted he will go to jail for awhile, then they can put him in longer for returning after being deported and then maybe he can get deported.

  8. Maureen Wood said on 6 Jun 2008 at 4:30 pm: Flag comment

    If he is convicted. He will serve his sentence here at OUR expense and then be deported.

  9. Timothy Watson said on 6 Jun 2008 at 4:39 pm: Flag comment

    @Just Cause

    Depends on the judge: He could leave the time suspended or unsuspend all, or part, of the time and let him sit in jail/prison.

  10. BattleCat said on 6 Jun 2008 at 4:47 pm: Flag comment

    I don’t know, Maureen, by the time he serves his sentence, Obama and the Democratic congress will award him with full citizenship! Yippee!

  11. AnonGuy said on 6 Jun 2008 at 5:01 pm: Flag comment

    Shocker…he is illegal. Even more shocking, he was deported before, and re-entered the country illegally.

    To the illegal alien apologists over at the anti-site (Elena, Alanna, Kathryn…. who are obsessed with this blog) who love to push the claim that being here illegally is a “civil” offense, and thus, illegals are not criminals. I got news for you: If you are DEPORTED and you re-enter the country, you have committed a FEDERAL OFFENSE, and this is a FELONY! This is exactly why the rule of law resolution is needed.

    I hope Ebert goes for the death penalty on all three of these murderers. Screw the deportation process. Save that for the illegals stopped for DUI and pissing in public.

  12. Red, White and Blue said on 6 Jun 2008 at 5:02 pm: Flag comment

    Notice how the “pro” folks go and hide from the truth. Where are the illegal supporters? Illegals are murdering their own just like that poor girl a few months ago here in Manassas yet the “pro” folks have no smart comments about the racist here in Manassas. Maybe they will put up a new double fence, more POSTED signs, a new chain and some lights to keep out the “undesirables” they have named on that sign. We are NOT the murderers, the illegals are murdering their own! But they will not acknowledge this; they bury it - just like MS13.

    BTW, great job for the law enforcement folks. Quick arrest in both cases. Thank you! Great work!

    Too bad our hard earned tax dollars still go and support them for the years of incarceration. More money for the criminals, less money for the programs, now is that the “justice” and “fairness” that sign at 9500 Liberty is screaming for? Where are the illegal rights groups? Is that an echo I hear?

  13. j said on 6 Jun 2008 at 5:55 pm: Flag comment

    wonder if they will give these jerk off’s probation too?

  14. abooot said on 6 Jun 2008 at 7:54 pm: Flag comment

    If government, at all levels, had done their job to keep illegal aliens out of our country Omar Florencio-Vazquez would still be alive. This crime was 100% preventable.

    What a crock. If we locked up all poor people who weren’t guilty of a crime, we also would probably prevent a lot of future crime. Does anyone here advocate doing so?

    Yes, you do. It’s called deportation.

  15. sahdman said on 6 Jun 2008 at 11:27 pm: Flag comment

    Abooot,

    We already lock up poor people. The most inhumane thing we do is give poor people food and shelter. And while they enjoy that food and shelter and don’t have to keep themselves busy working. They tend to become complacent and dependent on the government. (example: New Orleans) When you depend on government for everything ( ie.. food, minimum wage, no smoking section, correct light bulb in your house, what toilet you can have, what kind of car you can drive, how much of your paycheck you get to keep etc…) it creates a sense of hopelessness, and thats not good. I think we need to rely less on the government, stop locking up poor people (only the truly rich can afford to not be subjects of the state)

    We need the government to enforce the law and if that law includes deportation, so be it. I also think the 14th amendment to the constitution should be changed if a illegal immigrant has a baby here. They both should be deported to their home country. By deporting only the parent we are breaking up families and we don’t want to be responsible for that.

    The constitution says our government is to provide for the common defense, promote general welfare (notice it says general) insure domestic tranquility, establish justice, secure the blessing of liberty. None of our politicians are doing this right now. (haven’t for a long time) If they did our nation wouldn’t be in this mess. Our government wouldn’t be financially broke our borders wouldn’t be insecure. And if there was tranquility we wouldn’t have gang members “gang banging” in the streets. And if there was justice Ramos and Compean would be out of prison and the ms-13 gang member would be in prison. If they promoted general welfare they wouldn’t tax us like they do, and as for liberty I guess we should just be thankful that we still have the right to speak freely as long as we aren’t infringing on Mccain-Fiengold.

  16. Krutis said on 6 Jun 2008 at 11:45 pm: Flag comment

    Recent report states that the prison population in the US has grown to its highest ever number. It’s VERY expensive for us tax payers.

  17. AWCheney said on 7 Jun 2008 at 1:05 am: Flag comment

    Krutis, the illegal aliens sitting in prisons committed serious crimes. I suppose the judges should have just let them go with an admonishment to go home and sin no more…although in far too many cases, including identity theft and DUI (among others), that is exactly what happens.

  18. AWCheney said on 7 Jun 2008 at 1:07 am: Flag comment

    Correction: that is exactly what happens IN PLACES THAT DON’T HAVE A “RULE OF LAW” RESOLUTION AND 287G.

  19. Krutis said on 7 Jun 2008 at 3:13 am: Flag comment

    AWC - Of course I don’t want judges to let them go. I simply state the fact that our prison population is higher than ever. I happen to believe that some, maybe many, of the drug users could be let out. I’m not talking about dealers - they are despicable.

    It’s a real problem what to do with illegal aliens who break the law but haven’t committed a violent crime. Our judicial system hasn’t found a good way to deal with that. I, myself, certainly have no idea.

  20. AWCheney said on 7 Jun 2008 at 3:36 am: Flag comment

    It’s simple Krutis…at the least they should be deported. How many illegal aliens who have been released on DUI’s have gone on to commit vehicular homicide? How many people have had their lives ruined by illegal aliens who have stolen their identities? If citizens committed such offenses, they are subject to harsh penalties, often jail time. If an illegal alien commits the offense, they pay their bail, move on, and commit the same offenses under a different identity…often without even bothering to move on. The saddest part of this is that NONE OF THESE CRIMES should have been perpetrated in our country in the first place by these people. Small comfort to those families who have lost loved ones to out of control illegal aliens who have been arrested multiple times for DUI and released.

  21. Krutis said on 7 Jun 2008 at 7:38 am: Flag comment

    Great, AWC, if you can get such legislation through, I’m all for it. Deportation definitely is desirable. But, do you really think it’s simple?

    If people are dumped at the border or even deposited into the center of the home country and go free there, most of those who are physically able and strongwilled enough will try to make it back, I believe, and they’ll go without punishment.

    It seems to me, for deportation to work, there has to be cooperation between the US judiciary system and that of the other country and somehow I have a feeling that that is not simple. As said, I don’t know what the best solution is.

  22. j said on 7 Jun 2008 at 8:01 am: Flag comment

    I have an idea, microchip them when they are deported…like dogs. except these chips would be like GPS locators or something. That way, when they come back in we would know where they are. Sounds Sci-fi but I’m sure something like this could be accomplished with current technology. Of course we dont even need go that far if we can show that we are tough on enforcement, they’ll be too scared to come back. Make it so it’s not worth the trip i.e. scare them, and hit the employers with sanctions.

  23. BattleCat said on 7 Jun 2008 at 10:52 am: Flag comment

    Krutis at 11:45pm, (I’m trying to complement what you said)

    Along with the obvious problem of simple prison overcrowding, we also have a problem that what were “asylums” years ago are now prisons. An overwhelming majority of the folks who were once committed to asylums are now pushed into the prison system. Wrong tool for the job if you ask me. Yes, mean old me is advocating for some sort of mental health reform in the US. I doubt very seriously that having the mentally ill in prisons is cost efficient, or in any way fosters safety for citizens.

    I also don’t think deportation is cost effective either. I’d rather see illegals self-deport by taking away all incentives to be here (mostly by going after businesses that hire them and removing services). We dump them over in Mexico, they’re back the next day (if not the same day). That just doesn’t work. Just think if we had illegals gone and had the mentally ill out of our prisons and in places where they get the treatment they need! We might actually save money!

  24. Krutis said on 7 Jun 2008 at 11:33 am: Flag comment

    j -

    Micro chips might work. However, I strongly object to your expression “… like dogs”. After all, they are human beings, aren’t they?

  25. BattleCat said on 7 Jun 2008 at 12:26 pm: Flag comment

    A few more human beings for you.

    Idi Amin Dada
    Adolf Hiltler
    Elizabeth Bathory
    Atilla the Hun
    Vlad of Wallachia
    Pol Pot
    Josef Stalin
    Baby Doc Duvalier

    Being human doesn’t get you any special treatment ’round here.

  26. Krutis said on 7 Jun 2008 at 1:56 pm: Flag comment

    What do illegal aliens have to do with the above list, I ask you?

    What on eaarth did you put in your coffee this morning? Schrooms, acid, or ….?

  27. BattleCat said on 7 Jun 2008 at 7:54 pm: Flag comment

    Half & Half and Sugar.
    The point was not trying to compare evil human beings and illegal aliens. The point was some “human beings” aren’t worth the skin they’re printed on. We’ve been though this before with your “they’re human beings” poop. My point is…so what?? The only innocent human beings I’ve ever met were under 5 years of age. After that, many make wrong decisions, do the wrong things. Some have no respect for laws, life, etc. and I have no respect for those beings, I don’t care if they’re human.

  28. "Mytime2speak" said on 7 Jun 2008 at 10:09 pm: Flag comment

    I am glad that these murderers were apprehended quickly before they could do even more harm.

    I found it alarming that he was charged by the PWCPD and then deported, only to return to PWC.

    So, clearly, he felt comfortable and safe here. How did he manage to “blend” into our community here? Those are questions I would like to see answered — how this criminal was able to live easily amongst the community without fear of detection or reprisal.

    That is the downside to tacitly approving of a huge underground, undocumented population ….it allows the criminal element a safe place to lurk.

    This is very disturbing and only serves to reinforce the strategy of the Resolution and a return to law and order.

  29. Krutis said on 7 Jun 2008 at 10:27 pm: Flag comment

    BattleCat

    To err is human.

  30. Anonymous said on 8 Jun 2008 at 11:26 am: Flag comment

    Krutis said on 7 Jun 2008 at 11:33 am:
    j -

    Micro chips might work. However, I strongly object to your expression “… like dogs”. After all, they are human beings, aren’t they?

    There she goes again! Read what he said and not what you want to read into it. He said microchip them as they do no do for dogs to be able to identify them if they are lost, before they deport them. geeeeez!

  31. Krutis said on 8 Jun 2008 at 12:35 pm: Flag comment

    Anonymous

    j said: “…microchip them when they are deported … like dogs. - “What did I misread?

  32. Dan Cooper said on 8 Jun 2008 at 3:23 pm: Flag comment

    Kru: “To err is human”, to commit cold blooded murder is not.

    I too find this is alarming that this individual was bold enough to return to our home after we deported him. Now, the problem is that he is not alone, there are many just like him who think they own our streets and the souls that walk them. They have no regard for us or our rights.
    I think it is only a matter of time before someone shoots one of these illegal aliens (in self defense) and then we will be faced with being accused of all kinds of ‘human’ rights violations.

    True story:
    I stepped out of my car a few days ago (7pm) to peer into the front window of a store a few doors down from Rack & Roll Billiards. Thank God I was warned by a reflection in a window that a very shoddy looking latino was coming up behind me acting in an agressive posture. I believe if I had not turned to face this “human” I would have been attacked from the rear with no warning. My wife watched from our car in suspended horror. This is not paranoia. I have military and police training, as well as sixty years of life experience that tells me I was in danger. Had the attack take place and had I been fortunate enough to react in a timely manner, you AND I would have read it all in the MJM.

    Trust me when I say that there are many more where this “human” came from. Watch each others backs.

  33. CitizenofManassas said on 8 Jun 2008 at 9:24 pm: Flag comment

    The MJM should hold this guy up as the type of illegal that is good for the County. Afterall, they don’t seem to want to do anything about them, and always seem to bash any attempt by the County or the City to do something about illegals.

  34. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 9 Jun 2008 at 10:38 am: Flag comment

    # Krutis said on 7 Jun 2008 at 11:33 am:

    j -

    Micro chips might work. However, I strongly object to your expression “… like dogs”. After all, they are human beings, aren’t they?

    I didn’t take this as derogatory, I took it as an example. My dog has a microchip in him.

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