Applying “common law” and enforcing “common law” on all individuals the same is not a “socialist state”. and yes I have read the constitution, and the debates between the power to the people and the power to a central government. The “law” is the bridge between the fair and equal application os those laws, not subject to “un-equal” enforcement, just because you complain that your “differences” in ethnicity, gender, race or religion are not recognized and dealt with as a “special” case. Socialism is by definition, wanting everyone to have the same identical wealth, with in practice, with historical evidence to prove it, creates poverty. A market economy, under common law creates wealth. The Greeks and Romans knew this, and John Adams as the framer of the constitution knew this. You cannot allow “factions” to claim different laws and different rights, than “individuals” are entitled to, as it is these factions (federalisms) that will destroy your government, peace and stability. It was Thomas Jefferson who was most concerned about individual rights, as was Patrick Henry, who also worked with ADAMS to create an individiual “bill of rights”, protecting the power of the People, from “factions”.

I’m telling you, ethnic groups are trying to apply the law differently to themselves as a “faction” and not individual rights. These “factions” create lunatic loopholes in the laws for themselves, and their “faction group” only based today on ethnicity, religion, gender and race.

Freedom is not my enemy, I fought in the US military for that, I understand it, and the price of it all too well.

It’s not a liberal v. conservative issue. It’s more of a - do you beleive that people exist to be subservient to the govt or that the govt is subservient to it’s people.

What you propose Michael is a move towards a socialistic government where the government can control you and you have no recourse.

Local law enforcement should be provided rules and laws that they have to follow. I’m not sure why you see that as a ‘hinderence’. I have to operate and follow laws the police should do the same. The police by virtue of thier job aren’t ’super citizens’. They are just citizens that we’ve delegated certain powers of the state to to enforce laws and investigate crime. You don’t actually believe the civilian law enforcement exists to ‘protect’ you, do you?

Now, I’m not trying to be rude but have you read the Constitution? Have you read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers? Do you understand the difference between rights and powers? Because my rights are derived from my Creator doesn’t mean you can’t waive them for yourself but do NOT try to waive them for all of us. If you choose to cut and run and believe that a welfare state is what you want — that’s OK, that’s your right as a citizen. And, those of us that believe in individual vs. collective rights will keep fighting to make sure you always have that right - the right to choose to give up.

Democracy isn’t easy. It’s hard, very hard. The day we can hit the easy button on democracy is the day the ‘Reds’ have taken over.

How is it that the “right to remain silent” or to “plead the 5th”, cannot simply be interpreted as “reasonable doubt and reasonable suspicion” to justify an arrest warrant right there on the sight of the offensive behavior or “reasonable commitment of an illegal act”. I’d say refusing to speak or provide requested information when asked by any law enforcement officer is just like refusing to take a breathalyzer test. You head to Jail right away until you can be brought before a judge who will sort it out.

What is the point of having law enforcement if you can’t even enforce such a simple law as arresting a person “suspected of being illegal”, like you can arrest a person “suspected of commiting a crime” or “suspected of selling drugs” or “suspected of committing a murder” or “suspected of child abuse”. Let the freakin grand jury, magistrate, or Judge, or Jury determine guilt or innocence with the proof debated, instead of letting a potential criminal go free. I quess we just think that one innocent person arrested is worth letting a thousand likely criminals go free. We have a nation of liberal idiots leading us to anarchy, criminal statehood and ethnic warfare over un-equal application of the law designed to protect more criminals than protect innocents from harm by those criminals. It makes you want to take the law back into you own hands and just deal with it on a tribal level.

I have such great sympathy for our law enforcement officers who are handicapped by every lunacy possible, just so some liberal idiot can feel good about preserving the right to be a rebellious person toward authority as if it is some God-given right.

We desperately need a national identification system that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you are “legal” and protects you completly from identity theft. We ought to be enraged that a 9 digit un-secured SSN is even ALLOWED to prove we are who we are. GET A SECURE NATIONAL ID TO REPLACE the SSN PEOPLE! Every one else can then just be arrested and deported. No fuss, no arrogance, no lying, no rebellion! You get stopped, you show that encrypted card just like you show a Driver’s license, and it is instantly verified in all FBI and local police crime databases with the quick scan of a card reader. We have the technology people! We should use it.

Scary huh? I was referred to the site for Family Tree help and was amazed to see the SS #’s , date and place of birth, marriage and where a person resided.

I just searched a COMMON name like : Daniel Smith and put the year 2008 and guess what? It showed the SS#.

Here is an article that I tried to post earlier.
There are some good tips at the end of it.

This is a problem, wouldn’t you say?

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/18495531/

Scary, huh? I discovered the site when told of it’s existence to help search a family tree and was shocked to see the SS#’s and history of birth, marriage and places lived.

I have that same question but as you will see in this article, there are ways to get around it. It is just wrong!

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/18495531/

The laws have to be changed. For example, in VA the General Assembly chose not to fix the issues with SSNs but rather ordered Clerks of the Court to begin posting all there records online as of 1 July. The ACLU has lauched a legal attack against the State because instead of the GA fixing the issue they passed a law saying people couldn’t do what the State themselves we’re doing.

Contact your representative and tell him that Personally Identifiable Information SHOULD be protected and that the State should ONLY collect the MINIMUM information that they need to provide a service.

You might also be interested in reading the Government Data Collection and Dissemenation Practices Act: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+TOC02020000038000000000000

If/when you are able to opt out of providing your SSN or other PII, do it. It’s not only your duty as a citizen - it can protect your identity.

It showed the numbers for my grandparents and my father all of whom have passed away. Why are they allowed to publish these? Is there a stop in place that prevents them from being used after the person has passed away? I would hate for my mom to get a notice that dad owes back taxes after he has been put in the ground. That would be just devastating to her.

Yes I have. It’s sad that the CBP is hosting border checkpoints INSIDE the US instead of…I dunno ON THE BORDER. It’s our duty as Americans to make sure that the illegal checkpoints in use are removed. People should not cooperative with law enforcement when those that swear an oath to the Constitution so willfully violate it.

The Pledge and the Oath are just not words. We need to back them up with actions and rout our tyranny in all forms lest we lose our freedoms and Our country.

Nice work. Keep up the fight for freedom. Every victory counts. Tyranny will never die…it just changes form. But freedom can die…if we let it.

Have you ever seen the checkpointUSA channel on youtube? This guy has been doing some great work helping to preserve freedom by simply exercising his rights.

Much of our society is based on the Honor System. The problem comes when people who have no honor abuse it.

Don’t forget this one.

http://www.familysearch.org/

( go ahead plug in someone’s name that is deceased and see what history it pulls up, you will be amazed and then hopefully a little angry)

This is THE problem and until we correct this problem, why start another “red tape NIGHTMARE”

Nice work. Keep up the fight for freedom. Every victory counts. Tyranny will never die…it just changes form. But freedom can die…if we let it.

Have you ever seen the checkpointUSA channel on youtube? This guy has been doing some great work helping to preserve freedom by simply exercising his rights.

My favorite video of his:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRk3awO1Jq0

His channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CheckpointUSA

Has a good number of valid SSNs that can be used for whatever purposes. And, since many of those numbers belong to legislators you can only assume they have decent credit.

The collection of SSNs by government agencies should be banned or restricted only to the purpose it was established for. Unless I’m 100% required to, I never provide my SSN. As a computer security professional I understand how easily those numbers are compromised and how easy it is to forge an identity.

In a letter to Senator Warner, Senator Allen and Gov. Kaine two years ago I brought up that situation about birth certificates being used as you stated and received no reply for any of them. I also informed them that almost immediately after delivery, the hospitals were providing the paperwork to apply for a SS number. What a country!

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In their defense, there really wasn’t much they could do even if they wanted to. The SSN is tied to a name, not a date of birth.

No other immigrant group had the cahoonas to steal identities with such In Your Face impudence. They found the flaw in the system and are using it to their advantage.

For the majority of illegal aliens living in our country, it’s all about them. They live for the day and don’t think about tomorrow - even when tomorrow has a direct effect on their kids.

And these are the people our government is trying to amnestize.

The key wording is confirmed by the Clerk. Since my application was mailed in I sought a notary (at my bank) and confirmed my identity that way. I mailed in the application with the notary signature/seal. 45 days later I had my permit.

The website was changed after I complained that the old website said an ID was required. The Virginia Code never specifies that. The Clerk did a good job fixing the text.

We’re winnng, aren’t we? Can’t stand that, can you?

You’re a self-indulgent, insignificant, exploiter of slave labor. You’ve profitted up to now, and you vent your frustration in hatred toward those of us who want to put an end to the invasion of this country by the dregs of failed societies. Reap it.

Concerning the CHP, how did you get your CHP without showing your ID? On the PWC gov web site it says:

When you have your application confirmed by the clerk, you must have some form of government issued photo identification such as a driver’s license or military ID.

Did you get it notarized by a clerk at the court? If so, when they asked for your ID, and you refused, what did they say?