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	<title>Comments on: Isn&#8217;t This What They Call An Invasion?</title>
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		<title>By: zeezil</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69611</link>
		<dc:creator>zeezil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Guano:
Your intelligence (lack of) and intellect (lack of) shines brightly again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Guano:<br />
Your intelligence (lack of) and intellect (lack of) shines brightly again.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69579</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69579</guid>
		<description>I defer to Greg's ground experience on whether we should have joint operations with Mexican ground forces to stop this drug cartel intrusion and violence. Although I have military experience (18 1/2 years of airwar around the world) it is not with ground troops, mine is in the air over various countries coalition airspaces, and joint operations within Panama, Peru and Columbian government organizations during Counter-drug operations flown nightly in those regions for SOUTHCOM.

Joint operations with Mexico would have to be agreed by current SOUTHCOM commanders as a viable operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I defer to Greg&#8217;s ground experience on whether we should have joint operations with Mexican ground forces to stop this drug cartel intrusion and violence. Although I have military experience (18 1/2 years of airwar around the world) it is not with ground troops, mine is in the air over various countries coalition airspaces, and joint operations within Panama, Peru and Columbian government organizations during Counter-drug operations flown nightly in those regions for SOUTHCOM.</p>
<p>Joint operations with Mexico would have to be agreed by current SOUTHCOM commanders as a viable operation.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69568</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69568</guid>
		<description>Unfortunately Advocator, I think you are right.  Until the citizens of the US stand up, no one will.  The politicians are so worried about being politically correct that they have watered down the US.  Remember how passive we were when the Cole was hit and the first WTC bombing.  If we do not stand up and say enough is enough, then we will have 9/11 all over again.  I agree that the jihadists are watching this little show to see what the response is going to be.  Who knows if they are not funding this.  They are placing people in the US cells as we speak.  All it takes is an incident or a phone call to activate their missions.  This needs to be stopped IMMEDIATELY!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Advocator, I think you are right.  Until the citizens of the US stand up, no one will.  The politicians are so worried about being politically correct that they have watered down the US.  Remember how passive we were when the Cole was hit and the first WTC bombing.  If we do not stand up and say enough is enough, then we will have 9/11 all over again.  I agree that the jihadists are watching this little show to see what the response is going to be.  Who knows if they are not funding this.  They are placing people in the US cells as we speak.  All it takes is an incident or a phone call to activate their missions.  This needs to be stopped IMMEDIATELY!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Advocator</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69558</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69558</guid>
		<description>Eventually, this invasion of Illegals and Illegal drug cartel soldiers will have to be repelled by the honest citizenry.  All who care about their country's and children's futures should prepare for the worst by having on hand at least one handgun (recommend .45 or 9 mm auto), 1 shotgun (pump or semi-auto, 12 ga), and one assault rifle (recommend AK-47 or SKS) and plenty of ammo.  This is about a $1000 investment in your safety that will never lose its value.  Learn how to use and maintain them.  Practice reloading until you can do it with your eyes closed.  Teach your kids to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually, this invasion of Illegals and Illegal drug cartel soldiers will have to be repelled by the honest citizenry.  All who care about their country&#8217;s and children&#8217;s futures should prepare for the worst by having on hand at least one handgun (recommend .45 or 9 mm auto), 1 shotgun (pump or semi-auto, 12 ga), and one assault rifle (recommend AK-47 or SKS) and plenty of ammo.  This is about a $1000 investment in your safety that will never lose its value.  Learn how to use and maintain them.  Practice reloading until you can do it with your eyes closed.  Teach your kids to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Liela</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69549</link>
		<dc:creator>Liela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69549</guid>
		<description>Anonymous, don't confuse Krustis with the facts.  She likes to live in her own reality, and facts simply confuse and befuddle her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, don&#8217;t confuse Krustis with the facts.  She likes to live in her own reality, and facts simply confuse and befuddle her.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69506</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69506</guid>
		<description>Krutis said on 28 Jun 2008 at 4:16 pm:
 Honestly, I wouldn’t worry a whole lot about being invaded by Mexico. 

We already have been.  We have 10% of Mexicocaine's population already in this country plus about 25%  of el Saveadoor's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krutis said on 28 Jun 2008 at 4:16 pm:<br />
 Honestly, I wouldn’t worry a whole lot about being invaded by Mexico. </p>
<p>We already have been.  We have 10% of Mexicocaine&#8217;s population already in this country plus about 25%  of el Saveadoor&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Krutis</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69468</link>
		<dc:creator>Krutis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69468</guid>
		<description>Free Citizen

You'll have to stop the drug USERS.  They are the ones making it so profitable to smuggle drugs into the US.

As for using the military - Are you aware that we're heavily engaged, militarily, in another part of the world?

I agree with you that our troops would "welcome" being on the US-Mexico border rather in Afghanistan and Iraq!  Not as many road side bombs, for one thing.

  Guess we could get some people from the Navy since Iraq and Afghanistan together have only ONE port (Basra).  But - we've got to keep a close watch on Iran in the Persian Gulf.

Honestly, I wouldn't worry a whole lot about being invaded by Mexico.  Save the US from Mexico!  Ought to make Mexicans laugh to hear talk like that.  The big guy is running scared.

Have you contacted your elected officials yet?

No, I don't want an open border at all, but you sound as if you're frightened beyond any sensible limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free Citizen</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to stop the drug USERS.  They are the ones making it so profitable to smuggle drugs into the US.</p>
<p>As for using the military - Are you aware that we&#8217;re heavily engaged, militarily, in another part of the world?</p>
<p>I agree with you that our troops would &#8220;welcome&#8221; being on the US-Mexico border rather in Afghanistan and Iraq!  Not as many road side bombs, for one thing.</p>
<p>  Guess we could get some people from the Navy since Iraq and Afghanistan together have only ONE port (Basra).  But - we&#8217;ve got to keep a close watch on Iran in the Persian Gulf.</p>
<p>Honestly, I wouldn&#8217;t worry a whole lot about being invaded by Mexico.  Save the US from Mexico!  Ought to make Mexicans laugh to hear talk like that.  The big guy is running scared.</p>
<p>Have you contacted your elected officials yet?</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t want an open border at all, but you sound as if you&#8217;re frightened beyond any sensible limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69466</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69466</guid>
		<description>From one of my email alerts:

Ref: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2036510/posts

Police Report: Mexican Army Members Busted for Home Invasion and Murder
The suspects may have been hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations in the U.S. 
View Police Documents:
&lt;a href="http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/mlib/622/06/622_1214436005.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;Page 1&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/mlib/622/06/622_1214436034.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;Page 2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/mlib/622/06/622_1214436111.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;Page 3&lt;/a&gt;
Police reports show that three men arrested in a Phoenix home invasion and homicide Monday may have been active members of the Mexican Army.
While on the J.D. Hayworth show, Phoenix Law Enforcement Association President Mark Spencer said that the men involved were hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations.
The Monday morning incident at 8329 W. Cypress St. resulted in the death of the homeowner.  Between 50 and 100 rounds were fired at the house.
Spencer said a police officer told him that one of the men captured said they were completely prepared to ambush Phoenix police, but ran out of ammunition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From one of my email alerts:</p>
<p>Ref: <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2036510/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2036510/posts</a></p>
<p>Police Report: Mexican Army Members Busted for Home Invasion and Murder<br />
The suspects may have been hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations in the U.S.<br />
View Police Documents:<br />
<a href="http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/mlib/622/06/622_1214436005.pdf" rel="nofollow">Page 1</a><br />
<a href="http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/mlib/622/06/622_1214436034.pdf" rel="nofollow">Page 2</a><br />
<a href="http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/mlib/622/06/622_1214436111.pdf" rel="nofollow">Page 3</a><br />
Police reports show that three men arrested in a Phoenix home invasion and homicide Monday may have been active members of the Mexican Army.<br />
While on the J.D. Hayworth show, Phoenix Law Enforcement Association President Mark Spencer said that the men involved were hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations.<br />
The Monday morning incident at 8329 W. Cypress St. resulted in the death of the homeowner.  Between 50 and 100 rounds were fired at the house.<br />
Spencer said a police officer told him that one of the men captured said they were completely prepared to ambush Phoenix police, but ran out of ammunition.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69465</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69465</guid>
		<description>There should be no joining with Mexico to save our borders.

We need to save our Borders and stop the Drugs.

We need to demand that our Military be used locally ,at the Border, to save our Country.

We need to go on a campaign with our elected officials to get our Troops at the Border.We need them there now,as time is getting to late.

I am sure the Troops would welcome being at the Border,protecting the USA.

We all will see good results from this endeavour and a return of all that is good for America.

We can't wait any longer,so lets contact our elected officials now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be no joining with Mexico to save our borders.</p>
<p>We need to save our Borders and stop the Drugs.</p>
<p>We need to demand that our Military be used locally ,at the Border, to save our Country.</p>
<p>We need to go on a campaign with our elected officials to get our Troops at the Border.We need them there now,as time is getting to late.</p>
<p>I am sure the Troops would welcome being at the Border,protecting the USA.</p>
<p>We all will see good results from this endeavour and a return of all that is good for America.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t wait any longer,so lets contact our elected officials now.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69447</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69447</guid>
		<description>Decriminalize drugs. Take away their money and power. Watch "legitimate" governments topple! Take the funding away from Islamic terrorist groups! I want to see all governments who support terrorism and illegal drugs sink back into the mire of the third world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decriminalize drugs. Take away their money and power. Watch &#8220;legitimate&#8221; governments topple! Take the funding away from Islamic terrorist groups! I want to see all governments who support terrorism and illegal drugs sink back into the mire of the third world.</p>
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		<title>By: DPortM</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69442</link>
		<dc:creator>DPortM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69442</guid>
		<description>I just received this e-mail from a relative who is a Customs/Border Patrol agent in Nogales, Arizona:

"Remember the two Border Patrol Agents, Compean and Ramos, that shot a Mexican drug dealer in self defense. They were cleared of any wrong doing until the Mexican government pressured the U.S. government to prosecute them. They have been in prison for well over a year while Bush refuses to pardon them. 

You may not have heard of the drug smuggler that ran over a Border Patrol Agent near Yuma and fled to Mexico earlier this year. He was caught by Mexican authorities. Yesterday, a Mexican judge released him for time served. Check out the story at http://www.nbpc.net/ A Mexican drug smuggler kills a U.S. federal agent and serves a few weeks in jail. Two U.S. federal agents shoot a drug smuggler in self defence and get sentenced to over ten years in jail. What is going on? We are the superpower and we are letting a third world country get away with this crap. Call your representatives and let them know this injustice will not be tolerated." 

This is a portion from the article:

"Navarro was arrested Jan. 22 in the northern state of Sonora in Mexico and was being held in a Mexicali prison. Mexico had sought him for allegedly smuggling migrants.

Navarro was the suspected driver of a smuggling vehicle that struck and killed Aguilar on Jan. 19 as Aguilar tried to deploy spike strips to stop the vehicle in the Imperial Sand Dunes. The vehicle was fleeing U.S. law enforcement officers at the time.

Border Patrol spokesmen in the Washington, D.C., headquarters did not comment on the matter but instead issued a prepared statement from the Department of Homeland Security.

“We are shocked and appalled to learn that Jesus Navarro Montes was recently released by a Mexican judge,” Chertoff said in the statement. “Navarro Montes is a suspect in the murder of Border Patrol Agent Luis Aguilar. Agent Aguilar was killed in a heinous act of violence on Jan. 19 in the Yuma Sector, while attempting to stop two vehicles that illegally entered the country and were absconding into Mexico.”"

The outrage only works one way - Mexico's way.  Compean and Ramos are still in jail - because the Mexican government wanted these brave agents punished. The Mexican government let Aguilar, the alleged murderer of a Border Patrol agent go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received this e-mail from a relative who is a Customs/Border Patrol agent in Nogales, Arizona:</p>
<p>&#8220;Remember the two Border Patrol Agents, Compean and Ramos, that shot a Mexican drug dealer in self defense. They were cleared of any wrong doing until the Mexican government pressured the U.S. government to prosecute them. They have been in prison for well over a year while Bush refuses to pardon them. </p>
<p>You may not have heard of the drug smuggler that ran over a Border Patrol Agent near Yuma and fled to Mexico earlier this year. He was caught by Mexican authorities. Yesterday, a Mexican judge released him for time served. Check out the story at <a href="http://www.nbpc.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbpc.net/</a> A Mexican drug smuggler kills a U.S. federal agent and serves a few weeks in jail. Two U.S. federal agents shoot a drug smuggler in self defence and get sentenced to over ten years in jail. What is going on? We are the superpower and we are letting a third world country get away with this crap. Call your representatives and let them know this injustice will not be tolerated.&#8221; </p>
<p>This is a portion from the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;Navarro was arrested Jan. 22 in the northern state of Sonora in Mexico and was being held in a Mexicali prison. Mexico had sought him for allegedly smuggling migrants.</p>
<p>Navarro was the suspected driver of a smuggling vehicle that struck and killed Aguilar on Jan. 19 as Aguilar tried to deploy spike strips to stop the vehicle in the Imperial Sand Dunes. The vehicle was fleeing U.S. law enforcement officers at the time.</p>
<p>Border Patrol spokesmen in the Washington, D.C., headquarters did not comment on the matter but instead issued a prepared statement from the Department of Homeland Security.</p>
<p>“We are shocked and appalled to learn that Jesus Navarro Montes was recently released by a Mexican judge,” Chertoff said in the statement. “Navarro Montes is a suspect in the murder of Border Patrol Agent Luis Aguilar. Agent Aguilar was killed in a heinous act of violence on Jan. 19 in the Yuma Sector, while attempting to stop two vehicles that illegally entered the country and were absconding into Mexico.”&#8221;</p>
<p>The outrage only works one way - Mexico&#8217;s way.  Compean and Ramos are still in jail - because the Mexican government wanted these brave agents punished. The Mexican government let Aguilar, the alleged murderer of a Border Patrol agent go.</p>
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		<title>By: An Independent</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69432</link>
		<dc:creator>An Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69432</guid>
		<description>Michael, by the way, I saw you also said something on anti.  But I guess Mackie's response was that no one cares about immigration law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, by the way, I saw you also said something on anti.  But I guess Mackie&#8217;s response was that no one cares about immigration law.</p>
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		<title>By: An Independent</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69431</link>
		<dc:creator>An Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69431</guid>
		<description>Michael said:  "On the anti site is a great post by A PWC Resident on the actual Title 18/8 law defining the “criminal” statute of the law (US Title 18/8) and the “civil” law broken as well, with the civil penalty defined."

Michael, I am "a PWC Resident" on the other site.  Thank you for someone finally saying something about it.  I thought it was lost in cyberspace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael said:  &#8220;On the anti site is a great post by A PWC Resident on the actual Title 18/8 law defining the “criminal” statute of the law (US Title 18/8) and the “civil” law broken as well, with the civil penalty defined.&#8221;</p>
<p>Michael, I am &#8220;a PWC Resident&#8221; on the other site.  Thank you for someone finally saying something about it.  I thought it was lost in cyberspace.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69420</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69420</guid>
		<description>Anyone suggesting join operations with Mexican forces clearly has no military experience.  I've done joint operations with the Honduran military, which isn't anywhere near riddled with corruption as the Mexican army, and I would be violently opposed to the notion of U.S. soldiers being in close proximity to Honduran soldiers if they have live ammunition.  They're simply too dangerous to themselves and those around them, and they have little idea of what they're doing.  But Honduran soldiers are considerably better than the dregs that fill the ranks in the Mexican army.

The drug cartels actively recruit Mexican special operations soldiers to join the "Zetas", which is the military force behind the Sinaloan cartel.  Their army is infested with double-agents and cartel spies, their command structure is completely co-opted and full of corruption.  Mexican army units are rented out to cartels regularly, and escort drug runners across our border on a frequent basis.  The Mexican Army has been engaged in a battle with drug cartels in Ciudad Juarez for a couple of months now, and they are LOSING to the cartels.  Mexico now is talking about "re-taking" territory lost to the cartels.

Operating jointly with Mexican forces would be terrifically dangerous for our personnel. Integrating Mexican units into joint task forces with American forces would be insanely stupid.

If we needed to operate military forces in Mexico, the best thing we could do is tell the Mexican army to return to their barracks and play soccer for a while while we handle things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone suggesting join operations with Mexican forces clearly has no military experience.  I&#8217;ve done joint operations with the Honduran military, which isn&#8217;t anywhere near riddled with corruption as the Mexican army, and I would be violently opposed to the notion of U.S. soldiers being in close proximity to Honduran soldiers if they have live ammunition.  They&#8217;re simply too dangerous to themselves and those around them, and they have little idea of what they&#8217;re doing.  But Honduran soldiers are considerably better than the dregs that fill the ranks in the Mexican army.</p>
<p>The drug cartels actively recruit Mexican special operations soldiers to join the &#8220;Zetas&#8221;, which is the military force behind the Sinaloan cartel.  Their army is infested with double-agents and cartel spies, their command structure is completely co-opted and full of corruption.  Mexican army units are rented out to cartels regularly, and escort drug runners across our border on a frequent basis.  The Mexican Army has been engaged in a battle with drug cartels in Ciudad Juarez for a couple of months now, and they are LOSING to the cartels.  Mexico now is talking about &#8220;re-taking&#8221; territory lost to the cartels.</p>
<p>Operating jointly with Mexican forces would be terrifically dangerous for our personnel. Integrating Mexican units into joint task forces with American forces would be insanely stupid.</p>
<p>If we needed to operate military forces in Mexico, the best thing we could do is tell the Mexican army to return to their barracks and play soccer for a while while we handle things.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69415</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "invasion" is massive numbers of members of Drug cartels.

"illegal" crossing is not an "invasion", but an "illegal" act of lawbreaking, punishable by "criminal" deportation and "civil" fines.  On the anti site is a great post by A PWC Resident on the actual Title 18/8 law defining the "criminal" statute of the law (US Title 18/8) and the "civil" law broken as well, with the civil penalty defined. 

Greg should post it here so you can use facts to suppress that liberal "its not breaking the law" concept as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;invasion&#8221; is massive numbers of members of Drug cartels.</p>
<p>&#8220;illegal&#8221; crossing is not an &#8220;invasion&#8221;, but an &#8220;illegal&#8221; act of lawbreaking, punishable by &#8220;criminal&#8221; deportation and &#8220;civil&#8221; fines.  On the anti site is a great post by A PWC Resident on the actual Title 18/8 law defining the &#8220;criminal&#8221; statute of the law (US Title 18/8) and the &#8220;civil&#8221; law broken as well, with the civil penalty defined. </p>
<p>Greg should post it here so you can use facts to suppress that liberal &#8220;its not breaking the law&#8221; concept as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonguy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69412</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69412</guid>
		<description>I like the suggestion of a joint US Mexican combined SPEC OPS effort.Clear and Present Danger I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the suggestion of a joint US Mexican combined SPEC OPS effort.Clear and Present Danger I say.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69411</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69411</guid>
		<description>me-n-u  
I'm not against you I'm with you, but sometimes greg twists his words to his own detriment, to make the issue more en-rageable, by slightly duping those who don't pay attention.

"Mexican military forces"  and you hear "Mexican Military"

then: he says
foreign military units working under the orders of Mexican drug cartels and you don't connect that fact to the previous one, thus the "deniable" dupe from Greg's skill at word manipulation, something that frequently gets him in trouble.  He would have much more credibility if he simply use clear and plain facts, letting people draw solid conclusions from those facts without his need for personal "embellishment".  It is one of his weaknesses, and when he argues (though they are ones I agree with often), he looses points in the dabate from liberals trying to shut him down.

If he stuck to "neutral" and factual concepts like using "no ethnic based words, or religious based language, that shows biased anger" and only used "illegal" and legal in EVERY statement, and did not focus only on one country, but ALL foreign "illegal" sources in his language, he would never lose his arguments.  Neither would the rest of you, but you leave yourself open by choosing the "wrong" words, even if the concets of "common law", 287g, and fair and equitalbe law enforcement regardless of gender, race, religion or ethnic group are correct and "non-reproachable"


Obviously to anyone paying attention those are not "official" Mexican federal government military troops.

ergo, a cooperative effort with the "real" Mexican military to stop them puts two forces on the problem rather than a US only military effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me-n-u<br />
I&#8217;m not against you I&#8217;m with you, but sometimes greg twists his words to his own detriment, to make the issue more en-rageable, by slightly duping those who don&#8217;t pay attention.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mexican military forces&#8221;  and you hear &#8220;Mexican Military&#8221;</p>
<p>then: he says<br />
foreign military units working under the orders of Mexican drug cartels and you don&#8217;t connect that fact to the previous one, thus the &#8220;deniable&#8221; dupe from Greg&#8217;s skill at word manipulation, something that frequently gets him in trouble.  He would have much more credibility if he simply use clear and plain facts, letting people draw solid conclusions from those facts without his need for personal &#8220;embellishment&#8221;.  It is one of his weaknesses, and when he argues (though they are ones I agree with often), he looses points in the dabate from liberals trying to shut him down.</p>
<p>If he stuck to &#8220;neutral&#8221; and factual concepts like using &#8220;no ethnic based words, or religious based language, that shows biased anger&#8221; and only used &#8220;illegal&#8221; and legal in EVERY statement, and did not focus only on one country, but ALL foreign &#8220;illegal&#8221; sources in his language, he would never lose his arguments.  Neither would the rest of you, but you leave yourself open by choosing the &#8220;wrong&#8221; words, even if the concets of &#8220;common law&#8221;, 287g, and fair and equitalbe law enforcement regardless of gender, race, religion or ethnic group are correct and &#8220;non-reproachable&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously to anyone paying attention those are not &#8220;official&#8221; Mexican federal government military troops.</p>
<p>ergo, a cooperative effort with the &#8220;real&#8221; Mexican military to stop them puts two forces on the problem rather than a US only military effort.</p>
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		<title>By: El Guapo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69410</link>
		<dc:creator>El Guapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69410</guid>
		<description>When some individual Mexican military personnel commit crimes, it's called an invasion, and immature people suggest that we "nuke 'em".  When our soldiers commit crimes (the the rape of a Japanese girl several years ago), it's just the acts of individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When some individual Mexican military personnel commit crimes, it&#8217;s called an invasion, and immature people suggest that we &#8220;nuke &#8216;em&#8221;.  When our soldiers commit crimes (the the rape of a Japanese girl several years ago), it&#8217;s just the acts of individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: CONVA</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69407</link>
		<dc:creator>CONVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69407</guid>
		<description>Nuke 'em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuke &#8216;em!</p>
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		<title>By: me-n-u</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69400</link>
		<dc:creator>me-n-u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/27/isnt-this-what-they-call-an-invasion/#comment-69400</guid>
		<description>Michael- Did you not read that the Mexican military is crossing over into America? Why would we work with them if they are violating our borders and our sovereignty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael- Did you not read that the Mexican military is crossing over into America? Why would we work with them if they are violating our borders and our sovereignty?</p>
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