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It’s Not Easy Being Green

By Greg L | 27 June 2008 | National Politics, Humor & Satire | 17 Comments

How utterly horked up is Congress, now that the enviro-wackos have taken charge? In this clip from C-SPAN Rep. Ted Poe of Texas revels in the opportunity to explain, to the obvious amusement of Rep. Tom Tancredo who is seated behind him. This brings up an interesting possibility: if members of Congress broke a CFL light bulb in chambers, would they be required to evacuate the room and engage in the same hazardous waste management mitigation strategies that the Environmental Protection Agency requires of us? It would a least stop Congress from mandating yet another idiotic rule that tells Americans what kind of toilet they can use, what light bulbs they are allowed to have, and whether they can cut the tag off of a mattress.

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  1. Howard the Duck said on 27 Jun 2008 at 4:08 pm:
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    Any hobby or craft you enjoy will be made too expensive or difficult. Appliances and cars will cost a fortune and be unreliable. Someone will be making BIG money off of it. Don’t forget, Greens don’t have a problem with illegal aliens.

  2. A Reader said on 27 Jun 2008 at 4:26 pm:
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    Wow! A politician with sense. I’m very impressed with Ted Poe.

  3. Red, White and Blue said on 27 Jun 2008 at 4:43 pm:
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    Driving to work this morning, WTOP aired some story about the North Pole possibly not freezing completely this year and in the next decade or so, the polar ice cap may, in fact, not exist.

    I guess they don’t watch Ice Road Truckers on the History Channel.

    The Artic Circle seems very frozen, enough so they can drive those multi-mega ton loads on the salt water-Artic Ocean. Maybe a scientist or two could watch this show and learn something. Sheesh. So I guess Congress wants to appear “environmental friendly” as they drive all over the place in their limos we provide them. My first question is:

    How many of you use mass transportation to get to and from work and, part 2, how many of your staff do the same?

    Wag the tail, wag the tail.

    Solve the fuel problem, you solve an awful lot with one major exception. If we all start driving less, drive more fuel-efficient cars, walk or bike when we can and buy electric cars, we will use less fuel; a lot less fuel. This is good but….this will also mean a lot less TAX dollars. Believe me, our great Congress will be happy to help us out with that problem - just ask Californians who got the tax credit for buying high mileage vehicles like the Hondas and Toyotas. It worked so well, truthfully, that they were loosing tax dollars and had to curtail the program.

    If they cared about the environment they would go nuclear and promote windmills, offer the big 3 or the anyone else great tax incentives for a viable alternative fuel vehicle that is affordable, safe, practical AND fuel is readily available.

  4. Krutis said on 27 Jun 2008 at 5:42 pm:
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    There’s so much solar power not being used. Example: Most HOA’s won’t allow residents to hang clothes to dry in the backyard. No, I don’t want sheets wafting in the front yards, but my gosh, what’s wrong with the back of the house?

    Solar panels for heating water seem very possible. Why not give tax credit for that like they did in California in the 60s?

  5. Pat.Herve said on 27 Jun 2008 at 6:09 pm:
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    lets sit around and do nothing. That is the best approach - like we have done with our fuel supply, the only fix anyone can see, is to pump more. Countries like Brazil have changed their fuel to ethanol and natural gas (for autos) - yet, we cannot even change to the metric system - like the rest of the world.

    Yes, lets keep a steady course.

  6. anon in dale city said on 27 Jun 2008 at 6:23 pm:
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    I’m very green and I have a problem with illegal immigration. In fact if all the forest wasn’t cut down in El Salvador there would probably be a lot less super-desperate people trying to get out. I’m surprised that most Republicans seem to be climate change deniers still. Even companies like Allstate are now refusing to cover many coastal areas in Virginia and Maryland because of climate change threats. Do you really think that Allstate insurance are enviro-wackos? Haven’t you noticed there’s been an increase in extreme/weird weather? Do you really think we are so impotent that we cannot affect the climate? Even if you don’t believe we are causing it I don’t see how the best thing to do is go on about how there’s nothing we can do and we just have to accommodate ourselves to it.

  7. Michael said on 27 Jun 2008 at 6:30 pm:
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    I said this long before you ever saw it show up in a Saudi Arabian debate. WE Americans are delusional about our energy costs.

    THE NUMBER ONE, absolute reason why we are paying so much for energy is:

    Not because the gas station owners are screwing us
    Not because the oil refinery owners are screwing us
    Not because the people who got crude oil out of the ground are screwing us
    Not because we aren’t drilling the ANWAR preserve
    Not because we are drilling offshore
    Not because the Saudi’s or the Russians or Venezuela won’t sell us more oil

    BUT BECAUSE we created this thing call a FUTURES market that allows institutional investors to BUY CRUDE OIL FUTUREs at a speculative (made up or guessed at) future price equivalent to GAMBLING to make even MORE MONEY than something is actually worth, WITH NO INTENT to EVER TAKE DELIVERY of what they buy.

    These Brokerage firms have artificially forced the price of crude up as HIGH AS THEY CAN GET IT, JUST LIKE ENRON DID WITH CALIFORNIA ELECTRICITY, so they can make a KILLING if the price goes up OR the price comes down as they CAREFULLY WIT COMPUTER PROGRAMS and “INSIDERS” trade these futures between themselves.

    If we, or Congress or the President, had the “BALLs” to make futures trading illegal “tomorrow”, and made it ILLEGAL to buy crude oil unless you actually took physical delivery of it with the intent to REFINE IT, the price of gasoline at the PUMP would be UNDER $2.00 per gallon.

    NO-one but the SAUDI’s and a brief discussion in congress last week (totally incoherent, with code words) has to us how ignorant our leadership is to focus on the “production” side, rather than the “demand side and ESPECIALLY the gambling taking place in the futures market, HOLDING 360 million Americans and a significant part of the rest of the world (China, India, etc) HOSTAGE, by the actions of a FEW HUNDRED Brokers!!!!!.

    We and the President who railed at nothing else, other than rhethoric to make his buddies richer, should realize that no production increse is ever going to slow down the demand for refined oil by the US, China, Russia, India and the rest of the developing nations with significant emerging energy needs.

    Only STOPPING the future market for crude oil (making it illegal), and swithcing to alternative fuels that are sustainable INSIDE the US border, will ever FIX this runaway problem.

    The SAUDIs know why the price of oil is high and the value of the US dollar is LOW. They also know this is making HUGE profits for them, and they STILL called us STUPID (”insane and unreasonable” was the phrase I think), because we control most of the GAMBLING and Crude Oil (sold to refinery) prices in FUTURES in NEW YORK.

    When will our government ever learn to think rather than our leaders promote their own coveted financial interests.

    BTW global warming will happen for every pound of carbon you put into the atmosphere, either from crude, coal, vegetable oil or anything but “solar” ELECTRICAL ENERGY. That is the way out of this mess, every home with a solar panel and every community with a solar panel “farm”, and either STEAM/Electrical hybrids or Steam/Alcohol renewable bio-fuel energy recovery processes. We have the technology, our leaders just don’t have the brains. They still believe there is no global warming as a “new” religious belief. Facts, what are facts?

    As the SAUDI’s said, WE are STUPID.

  8. gimme shelter said on 27 Jun 2008 at 7:14 pm:
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    Michael, Take a deep breath……………….!! Let’s think out side the box.

    What percentage of tx dollar does THE government extract from gas consumption??? The Congress, comprised of Republicrats MUST have $$ to pay this war debt down.

    “When will our government ever learn to think rather than our
    leaders promote their own coveted financial interests?”

    The ‘new’ modern thinker is a conniving, manipulating, cajoling liar that is motivated by his own insatiable appetite to do or say anything that benefits his own needs, wants and desires. COVET - TO LONG TO POSSESS, ESP. WHAT BELONGS TO ANOTHER, TO DESIRE UNREASONABLY OR UNLAWFULLY!

  9. Pat.Herve said on 27 Jun 2008 at 7:26 pm:
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    Gas $4 per gallon

    Coke: $1.50 for 16oz. $12 per gallon

    Water: $1.50 for 12 oz. $16 per gallon

    Startbucks Latte $28 per gallon

    So - something that is drilled for, pumped, barreled, shipped around the world, refined, trucked, pumped into your gas tanks - you are griping about paying $4 per gallon - Sugar water - 12 per gallon, and oh, no do not take away my $28 per gallon coffee.

    Our prioriites as usual are way off.

  10. Michael said on 27 Jun 2008 at 7:49 pm:
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    Good point Pat. I suppose if we had to drink 20 gallons of coffee every week ($560.00), we’d switch to tea bags and tap water!

    Gimme Shelter: I think the percentage of tax on gas is $.18 (cents) per gallon, or about 4% of the total cost. The percentgae of markup from crude cost out of the groud, to refinery sales is something like $2.00 of the current $4.00 per gallon (or some 50% of the cost), can someone check the accuracy of this as I have no source.
    Apparently Exon/Mobile made a 46% return on investment in its drilling operations, in other words the futures price driven up by brokers trading between each other to maximize the profit and speculation (gambling), was 46% higher than the cost of getting it out of the ground.

    The brokers are the one screwing AMERICA, our President and others don’t seem to care because they are heavily invested in crude oil special interests, and possibly heavily invested in personal finances in this market.

  11. Michael said on 27 Jun 2008 at 7:49 pm:
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    A good document on why speculatoers are scewing America and nobody cares.


  12. Not the Taco Truck Ted said on 27 Jun 2008 at 7:49 pm:
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    What is maddening is that this whole situation has been going on for 35 years and like the mortgage “crisis”, a blind man could’ve seen it coming. But as usual our politicians and many of our business executives couldn’t look past the next election or next annual report. Are you telling me that 10-15 years ago nobody saw the present economic expansion in India and China? While I understand the necessity of having an economic incentive for businesses to act, I cannot understand how, other than creating the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the guvmint doesn’t seem to have done a whole lot. Throw in the environmentalists and here we are.

    Now the exact sort of thing is going to happen with Social
    Security and Medicare funding in the next 10-20 years. Everybody sees it. Everybody knows it going to be a catastrophe if nothing is done. Yet the politicians were look only until the next election, demagogue the issue, and then do absolutely nothing about it.

    Wouldn’t it be nice to have a few people in Congress who actually look to the interests of the country as a whole instead of be concerned only with their own power and wealth.

  13. Krutis said on 27 Jun 2008 at 8:26 pm:
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    Report on Lou Dobbs news tonight:

    Pres. Bush has put a freeze on all solar power research for, I believe it said, two years. Perfect timing, nicht wahr?!?

  14. Greg L said on 27 Jun 2008 at 9:06 pm:
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    And the reason for that? That the environmental impact studies hadn’t been done. The enviro-wackos managed to utterly shoot themselves in the foot and impede the roll-out of alternative energy sources so we can make sure that no polar bears are killed.

  15. A Reader said on 27 Jun 2008 at 9:43 pm:
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    I think anyone who doesn’t want drilling on U.S. soil is crazy. Do you see all the cars out there. They can’t give up oil in the foreseeable future. And, of course the greenies will want the “rich” to buy electric cars for the poor. You know that is coming. Not drilling is suicidal.

  16. anon in dale city said on 27 Jun 2008 at 10:31 pm:
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    It’s a freeze on solar power Plants on public land. I wonder where this concern for environmental impact studies on other energy related activities on BLM land like drilling in the Rockys. Maybe the enviro-wackos didn’t ask for those cause usually Bush does what they want…

  17. Krutis said on 27 Jun 2008 at 10:36 pm:
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    Yes, you’re correct, Greg! (did I really say that?)

    Evidently some of the fringe environmentalists don’t want to use any part of the proposed desert sites. I’m amazed that Bush went along with this, since he is gungho with drilling for oil almost anywhere. - Maybe he’s worried about his Texas ranch.

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