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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Suspect Birth Certificate</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Baruch Hitler Stalin Schmucker's Hussein Obama</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-78433</link>
		<dc:creator>Baruch Hitler Stalin Schmucker's Hussein Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-78433</guid>
		<description>How'd that all work out for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;d that all work out for you?</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-77034</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-77034</guid>
		<description>Anyone who's worked with city or county documents knows that revisions to docs are expensive and must be justified. so why would the document version (11/01) be the same on both, yet the documents look so different.

Yes they could have changed the paper, but as far as I know that would be a version change.  Hmmm?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who&#8217;s worked with city or county documents knows that revisions to docs are expensive and must be justified. so why would the document version (11/01) be the same on both, yet the documents look so different.</p>
<p>Yes they could have changed the paper, but as far as I know that would be a version change.  Hmmm?!</p>
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		<title>By: kab</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-76510</link>
		<dc:creator>kab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-76510</guid>
		<description>i thought his really name was brock and later change it, i could be wrong!  does anyone know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought his really name was brock and later change it, i could be wrong!  does anyone know?</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-76394</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-76394</guid>
		<description>You forgot to write.. In 1961 it wouldn't say African it would say Negro or Mulato... I believe that certificate is fake...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to write.. In 1961 it wouldn&#8217;t say African it would say Negro or Mulato&#8230; I believe that certificate is fake&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72765</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72765</guid>
		<description>Golem you want to glow in the dark for a couple of hours and then die.  Is that keeping this country safe.  A vote for McCain is going to definitely take us into WWIII.  He is a war lover and mainly because he is not mentally fit to be president.  He has very bad outbursts of anger were he acts madly without reasoning.

He is going to keep us safe, someone who did not keep many of his fellow soldiers safe but were killed when he gave vital secret information to the vietcong to save his butt when he was captured .  Come on.

This is not a republican or democrat issue anymore, but a personal issue.  Whether this person is fit to the president or not.  And he is definitely not.

To be fair any of the other republican candidates were more fit than McCain, how McCain who was dead last rose to the top is beyond belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golem you want to glow in the dark for a couple of hours and then die.  Is that keeping this country safe.  A vote for McCain is going to definitely take us into WWIII.  He is a war lover and mainly because he is not mentally fit to be president.  He has very bad outbursts of anger were he acts madly without reasoning.</p>
<p>He is going to keep us safe, someone who did not keep many of his fellow soldiers safe but were killed when he gave vital secret information to the vietcong to save his butt when he was captured .  Come on.</p>
<p>This is not a republican or democrat issue anymore, but a personal issue.  Whether this person is fit to the president or not.  And he is definitely not.</p>
<p>To be fair any of the other republican candidates were more fit than McCain, how McCain who was dead last rose to the top is beyond belief.</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72764</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72764</guid>
		<description>"As for offshore drilling its safe enough these days, not even hurricanes Katrina and Rita could cause significant spillage from the battered rigs off the cost of New Orleans and Houston.”  McCains own words

That is just an outright lie.

Hurricane Katrina and Rita caused over 124 offshore spills for a total of 743,700 gallons offshore.  Anything over 100,000 gallons is considered a major spill and there were over “700,000 GALLONS” of crude oil from platforms, rigs, pipelines and 189,000 gallons of refined products much of that was on shore or close to shore or on ships.  6 major spills of 42,000 gallons or greater.
“THE LARGEST SINGLE SPILL AS A RESULT OF THE HURRICANES RITA AND KATRINA.”  “OFFSHORE” was 152,250 gallons,  this one of the 6 major spills out of the total 124 spills.

This was worse than the Exxon Valdez.  But he is still lying about it.


And what about the empty prison in Iraq that is a $40M 'failure'.  An empty prison north of Baghdad is a monument to waste, poor planning.  And you continue to say we need to stay in Iraq indefinitely.    That is a failed war that was unnecessary and a total lie got us into it by this administration.  Just to make money off of oil. 

And you still want to vote for McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for offshore drilling its safe enough these days, not even hurricanes Katrina and Rita could cause significant spillage from the battered rigs off the cost of New Orleans and Houston.”  McCains own words</p>
<p>That is just an outright lie.</p>
<p>Hurricane Katrina and Rita caused over 124 offshore spills for a total of 743,700 gallons offshore.  Anything over 100,000 gallons is considered a major spill and there were over “700,000 GALLONS” of crude oil from platforms, rigs, pipelines and 189,000 gallons of refined products much of that was on shore or close to shore or on ships.  6 major spills of 42,000 gallons or greater.<br />
“THE LARGEST SINGLE SPILL AS A RESULT OF THE HURRICANES RITA AND KATRINA.”  “OFFSHORE” was 152,250 gallons,  this one of the 6 major spills out of the total 124 spills.</p>
<p>This was worse than the Exxon Valdez.  But he is still lying about it.</p>
<p>And what about the empty prison in Iraq that is a $40M &#8216;failure&#8217;.  An empty prison north of Baghdad is a monument to waste, poor planning.  And you continue to say we need to stay in Iraq indefinitely.    That is a failed war that was unnecessary and a total lie got us into it by this administration.  Just to make money off of oil. </p>
<p>And you still want to vote for McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: mendy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72762</link>
		<dc:creator>mendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72762</guid>
		<description>zeeze, you do not know what you are saying.  If you want socialism, well more like communism look no further than now with this president.
President Bush is the closest to Fidel that we have seen in this country and McCain will follow Bush's lead.  

I had to flee Cuba and would hate to see this country turn into another Cuba with the continuation of Bush's policies by McCastro.
Our democracy and civil liberties are at stake, wise up and think.

McCain's wife is already doing business with Cuba.  And isn't that a violation of the embargo.  Wasn't McCain for the embargo at one point. 
Well with his jekel and hyde personality who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zeeze, you do not know what you are saying.  If you want socialism, well more like communism look no further than now with this president.<br />
President Bush is the closest to Fidel that we have seen in this country and McCain will follow Bush&#8217;s lead.  </p>
<p>I had to flee Cuba and would hate to see this country turn into another Cuba with the continuation of Bush&#8217;s policies by McCastro.<br />
Our democracy and civil liberties are at stake, wise up and think.</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s wife is already doing business with Cuba.  And isn&#8217;t that a violation of the embargo.  Wasn&#8217;t McCain for the embargo at one point.<br />
Well with his jekel and hyde personality who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72761</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72761</guid>
		<description>PWC what about the biggest conspiracy of all.  Bush's and Chaney's conspiracy to hide their involment in 911.  Yes, they constructed 911 to take us to war.  Many innocent people died for their sick sick games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PWC what about the biggest conspiracy of all.  Bush&#8217;s and Chaney&#8217;s conspiracy to hide their involment in 911.  Yes, they constructed 911 to take us to war.  Many innocent people died for their sick sick games.</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72760</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-72760</guid>
		<description>McCain= WWIII
McCain = the last of the US jobs sent to India
McCain = worlds largest ecological disaster with his offshore drilling plans
McCain = the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the middle get squeezed dry paying the taxes the rich did not pay
McCain = wars any wars he loves wars
McCain = Traitor***


I would vote for an amoeba or Mickey Mouse before voting for McCain.

And McCain was born in Panama.  He was not born in the naval base in the Canal.  The hospital he claims he was born in the base was not built till 1941 after he was born.  McCain was born in the country of Panama, in a hospital in Colon, Panama.

But to me were he was born is irrelevant at this point.  What's important is we vote for a candidate that will not continue to harm this country more than  Bush and Chaney already have.  And McCain will follow in Bush's footsteps and this time it will be a point of no return.  WWIII and we all will be glowing for a couple of hours or many just minutes and die.  With McCain someone, maybe even him will push the nuke button and that's it world.

McCain gave war secrets to the enemy when he was captured to save his butt.  And that made the enemy possible to kill countless more of our soldiers.  Yes he is a traitor***

And a cheat and liar.  He lied to his first wife, had affairs with countless women before his last affair with Cindy which he married right after divorcing his wife.

And the latest.  His wife's beer company is buying another beer company that does business in Cuba.  All while McCain supports the embargo.  
So he supports the embargo but he is braking the law by doing business in Cuba.  Well as long as his wife keeps getting richer, so what if he brakes the law.  And he is running for President, isn't it mandatory to uphold the law to be president.

Oh and he's so proud of his wife, how she is a terrific business woman.
She inherited the beer business from her daddy dearest.
And she makes her millions pushing beer to underage, and young adults ages 18-25 with the beer commercials geared at those age groups.  Watch them if you don't believe.

So young college students die in beer drinking binges at the colleges, and so many end up alcoholic before they graduate.  The Budweiser ads and commercials play an important part in that.

And some are thinking of voting for such scum.  Instead of a respectable person like Obama with his respectable family.  

Please you need a lobotomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain= WWIII<br />
McCain = the last of the US jobs sent to India<br />
McCain = worlds largest ecological disaster with his offshore drilling plans<br />
McCain = the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the middle get squeezed dry paying the taxes the rich did not pay<br />
McCain = wars any wars he loves wars<br />
McCain = Traitor***</p>
<p>I would vote for an amoeba or Mickey Mouse before voting for McCain.</p>
<p>And McCain was born in Panama.  He was not born in the naval base in the Canal.  The hospital he claims he was born in the base was not built till 1941 after he was born.  McCain was born in the country of Panama, in a hospital in Colon, Panama.</p>
<p>But to me were he was born is irrelevant at this point.  What&#8217;s important is we vote for a candidate that will not continue to harm this country more than  Bush and Chaney already have.  And McCain will follow in Bush&#8217;s footsteps and this time it will be a point of no return.  WWIII and we all will be glowing for a couple of hours or many just minutes and die.  With McCain someone, maybe even him will push the nuke button and that&#8217;s it world.</p>
<p>McCain gave war secrets to the enemy when he was captured to save his butt.  And that made the enemy possible to kill countless more of our soldiers.  Yes he is a traitor***</p>
<p>And a cheat and liar.  He lied to his first wife, had affairs with countless women before his last affair with Cindy which he married right after divorcing his wife.</p>
<p>And the latest.  His wife&#8217;s beer company is buying another beer company that does business in Cuba.  All while McCain supports the embargo.<br />
So he supports the embargo but he is braking the law by doing business in Cuba.  Well as long as his wife keeps getting richer, so what if he brakes the law.  And he is running for President, isn&#8217;t it mandatory to uphold the law to be president.</p>
<p>Oh and he&#8217;s so proud of his wife, how she is a terrific business woman.<br />
She inherited the beer business from her daddy dearest.<br />
And she makes her millions pushing beer to underage, and young adults ages 18-25 with the beer commercials geared at those age groups.  Watch them if you don&#8217;t believe.</p>
<p>So young college students die in beer drinking binges at the colleges, and so many end up alcoholic before they graduate.  The Budweiser ads and commercials play an important part in that.</p>
<p>And some are thinking of voting for such scum.  Instead of a respectable person like Obama with his respectable family.  </p>
<p>Please you need a lobotomy.</p>
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		<title>By: Karla H</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-70761</link>
		<dc:creator>Karla H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-70761</guid>
		<description>McAmnesty was born on an armed forces base in Panama... not on US soil.  And if bases are US soil, then shouldn't Guantanamo be under the jurisdiction of the US courts?  Hate to rain on everyone's parade, but McAmnesty is a loser too!  How did we ever get into this mess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McAmnesty was born on an armed forces base in Panama&#8230; not on US soil.  And if bases are US soil, then shouldn&#8217;t Guantanamo be under the jurisdiction of the US courts?  Hate to rain on everyone&#8217;s parade, but McAmnesty is a loser too!  How did we ever get into this mess!</p>
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		<title>By: 143000</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69776</link>
		<dc:creator>143000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69776</guid>
		<description>That Angry Guy said on 1 Jul 2008 at 11:09 pm: 

Here's one for you.  I think That Angry Guy is an idiot.  Proof: His 11:09 pm post.  End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Angry Guy said on 1 Jul 2008 at 11:09 pm: </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one for you.  I think That Angry Guy is an idiot.  Proof: His 11:09 pm post.  End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69739</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69739</guid>
		<description>Winner of the most idiotic, inane, and stupid post of the year is:

That Angry Guy on 1 Jul 2008 at 11:09 pm.

Activate IGNORE button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winner of the most idiotic, inane, and stupid post of the year is:</p>
<p>That Angry Guy on 1 Jul 2008 at 11:09 pm.</p>
<p>Activate IGNORE button.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69728</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69728</guid>
		<description>I agree that none of the so-called candidates are up to the task. HRC ran as a woman and Obama is running as a black. Neither is qualified to run for the reasons that they ran, just as McCain is not qualified to run because he was a POW (respectfully).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that none of the so-called candidates are up to the task. HRC ran as a woman and Obama is running as a black. Neither is qualified to run for the reasons that they ran, just as McCain is not qualified to run because he was a POW (respectfully).</p>
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		<title>By: That Angry Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69669</link>
		<dc:creator>That Angry Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69669</guid>
		<description>Here's one for you. I think Greg is gay. Now hear me out here. Every picture I've seen of him, he's got this prissy little look on his face. And I've never seen him pictured with a woman. And he's rabidly anti-gay (like Pastor Ted, or Larry Craig, or any of the other dozens of closet case Republicans I could name) in his writing--a little TOO obsessed with the buttsexing if you know what I mean. 

Now I'm not saying Greg IS definitely gay. Might be, might not. But it should be really easy for him to clear up. Greg, give us some proof you're not gay. And while you're at it, why don't you prove to us that you're not a space alien.

Isn't that silly? Of course it is...just like asking Obama to prove he's a citizen. I think there's about a billion issues more important than wasting time on that. And like it's been said before, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof: basically, it's up to YOU to show he ISN'T a citizen, not for him to prove he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one for you. I think Greg is gay. Now hear me out here. Every picture I&#8217;ve seen of him, he&#8217;s got this prissy little look on his face. And I&#8217;ve never seen him pictured with a woman. And he&#8217;s rabidly anti-gay (like Pastor Ted, or Larry Craig, or any of the other dozens of closet case Republicans I could name) in his writing&#8211;a little TOO obsessed with the buttsexing if you know what I mean. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not saying Greg IS definitely gay. Might be, might not. But it should be really easy for him to clear up. Greg, give us some proof you&#8217;re not gay. And while you&#8217;re at it, why don&#8217;t you prove to us that you&#8217;re not a space alien.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that silly? Of course it is&#8230;just like asking Obama to prove he&#8217;s a citizen. I think there&#8217;s about a billion issues more important than wasting time on that. And like it&#8217;s been said before, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof: basically, it&#8217;s up to YOU to show he ISN&#8217;T a citizen, not for him to prove he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69666</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69666</guid>
		<description>Actually, all personnel on U.S. military installations overseas are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and decidedly are under the jurisdiction of the United States.  War prisoners detained at Camp Delta in Guantanamo certainly aren't subject to Cuban law, that's for certain.

U.S. Diplomatic posts and overseas installations are considered U.S. territory under the law and the status of forces agreements negotiated with host countries.  Host country government personnel are not permitted to remove persons from these facilities, nor subject them to their laws without the consent of the U.S. government, nor are personnel stationed at these facilities subject to taxation by the host countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, all personnel on U.S. military installations overseas are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and decidedly are under the jurisdiction of the United States.  War prisoners detained at Camp Delta in Guantanamo certainly aren&#8217;t subject to Cuban law, that&#8217;s for certain.</p>
<p>U.S. Diplomatic posts and overseas installations are considered U.S. territory under the law and the status of forces agreements negotiated with host countries.  Host country government personnel are not permitted to remove persons from these facilities, nor subject them to their laws without the consent of the U.S. government, nor are personnel stationed at these facilities subject to taxation by the host countries.</p>
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		<title>By: PWC Republicans Rock</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69663</link>
		<dc:creator>PWC Republicans Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69663</guid>
		<description>Bridget, I'll be happy to give you a bit of a lesson on our Constitution...a Senate resolution is non-binding and has no power or force of law.  "Natural Born Citizen" can be interpreted only by the Supreme Court -- only they have the ability to interpret our Constitution, although I'm sure the Dubya Administration would disagree wholeheartedly.  

Since the conspiracy theorists have come out on Obama, it is worthy mentioning that there is no record of McCain's birth in the bound birth registers of the Panama Canal Zone Health Department, which are available for public inspection at the National Archives in College Park, MD.   Here is what a State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:

Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridget, I&#8217;ll be happy to give you a bit of a lesson on our Constitution&#8230;a Senate resolution is non-binding and has no power or force of law.  &#8220;Natural Born Citizen&#8221; can be interpreted only by the Supreme Court &#8212; only they have the ability to interpret our Constitution, although I&#8217;m sure the Dubya Administration would disagree wholeheartedly.  </p>
<p>Since the conspiracy theorists have come out on Obama, it is worthy mentioning that there is no record of McCain&#8217;s birth in the bound birth registers of the Panama Canal Zone Health Department, which are available for public inspection at the National Archives in College Park, MD.   Here is what a State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:</p>
<p>Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69656</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laughing at you, you're certainly right, we're all laughing at YOU....well no, actually, I suppose that a better description would be that we're having pity on you.  Did you have a difficult time picking up on "colors" and "shapes" too?  :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laughing at you, you&#8217;re certainly right, we&#8217;re all laughing at YOU&#8230;.well no, actually, I suppose that a better description would be that we&#8217;re having pity on you.  Did you have a difficult time picking up on &#8220;colors&#8221; and &#8220;shapes&#8221; too?  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :)</p>
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		<title>By: Wine Please</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69652</link>
		<dc:creator>Wine Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69652</guid>
		<description>1.  I agree that the Obama doc looks weird.  It's too digitized...looks like an electronic created copy and not a scan of a paper document.  I won't even go into folds or no folds because when my cousin got a certified copy of her BC in the mail, it came in a stiff 9x13 envelope.  Her original birth certificate was probably folded like the rest of ours were. 
I also agree it should have a signature and a seal from the Hawaii Vital Statistics office, even if it's not embossed because it's a certified copy (my children's BC's are not embossed...they were born in '04 and '07...the little disclaimer on them says it needs to have the signature and the seal of the VA Vital Stats...).   It's just plain fishy-looking.
2.  I seem to remember that McCain was born not on land in Panama, but on the ship?  Maybe I'm remembering wrong or read wrong?  But if what I'm remember is true and correct, then him being born on an American military ship to two American parents makes him an American.  Just like children of the military who are born in Germany...they are born on what is a small piece of American soil in Germany and are thus, American citizens.

Please feel free to correct my memory if he was born on land or sea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  I agree that the Obama doc looks weird.  It&#8217;s too digitized&#8230;looks like an electronic created copy and not a scan of a paper document.  I won&#8217;t even go into folds or no folds because when my cousin got a certified copy of her BC in the mail, it came in a stiff 9&#215;13 envelope.  Her original birth certificate was probably folded like the rest of ours were.<br />
I also agree it should have a signature and a seal from the Hawaii Vital Statistics office, even if it&#8217;s not embossed because it&#8217;s a certified copy (my children&#8217;s BC&#8217;s are not embossed&#8230;they were born in &#8216;04 and &#8216;07&#8230;the little disclaimer on them says it needs to have the signature and the seal of the VA Vital Stats&#8230;).   It&#8217;s just plain fishy-looking.<br />
2.  I seem to remember that McCain was born not on land in Panama, but on the ship?  Maybe I&#8217;m remembering wrong or read wrong?  But if what I&#8217;m remember is true and correct, then him being born on an American military ship to two American parents makes him an American.  Just like children of the military who are born in Germany&#8230;they are born on what is a small piece of American soil in Germany and are thus, American citizens.</p>
<p>Please feel free to correct my memory if he was born on land or sea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laughing at you</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69640</link>
		<dc:creator>Laughing at you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69640</guid>
		<description>In fairness, Greg, I'm sure you're telling all your readers that John McCain was born in Panama and isn't a "natural born citizen" either.  Right?  Because truth is important, and printing baseless lies is not something that Republicans would stoop to, except in '68, '72, '76, '80, '84, '88, '92, '96, '00, and '04.

[Ed note: yeah, I'm having a season-long rally for McCain where he is escaping any and all criticism.  Just feel the McCain love-fest &lt;a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/19/the-hispandering-juan-mcamnesty/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/20/john-mccain-can-bite-me/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/21/john-mccains-response-no-comment/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/22/the-revolt-against-mccain/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness, Greg, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re telling all your readers that John McCain was born in Panama and isn&#8217;t a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; either.  Right?  Because truth is important, and printing baseless lies is not something that Republicans would stoop to, except in &#8216;68, &#8216;72, &#8216;76, &#8216;80, &#8216;84, &#8216;88, &#8216;92, &#8216;96, &#8216;00, and &#8216;04.</p>
<p>[Ed note: yeah, I&#8217;m having a season-long rally for McCain where he is escaping any and all criticism.  Just feel the McCain love-fest <a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/19/the-hispandering-juan-mcamnesty/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/20/john-mccain-can-bite-me/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/21/john-mccains-response-no-comment/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/22/the-revolt-against-mccain/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.]</p>
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		<title>By: zeezil</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69609</link>
		<dc:creator>zeezil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/06/28/obamas-suspect-birth-certificate/#comment-69609</guid>
		<description>Obama is nothing more than your typical sleazy, slippery politician that cannot be trusted, much less supported. The real alarm bell is that he slides by with a large number of idol worshipping, mind numbed, not a clue or care to have a clue voters. Elect Obama and we'll experience far left radical extremism directly and consistently from the White House, rather than chirping periodically from the halls of Congress, as we do now. Elect Obama, and America, as we know it with her Declaration of Independence and Constitution, will be transformed into a socialist state, perfectly in lock step with the third world socialist states in Latin America. And it won't take 4 years to achieve this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is nothing more than your typical sleazy, slippery politician that cannot be trusted, much less supported. The real alarm bell is that he slides by with a large number of idol worshipping, mind numbed, not a clue or care to have a clue voters. Elect Obama and we&#8217;ll experience far left radical extremism directly and consistently from the White House, rather than chirping periodically from the halls of Congress, as we do now. Elect Obama, and America, as we know it with her Declaration of Independence and Constitution, will be transformed into a socialist state, perfectly in lock step with the third world socialist states in Latin America. And it won&#8217;t take 4 years to achieve this.</p>
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