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	<title>Comments on: Gaudencio Fenandez Violates Yet Another Ordinance</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-71195</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We really need to start using the tactics of the Left or we will certainly lose.  

Start posting home addresses of council members who are enabling law breaking.  That way we know where to send letters that say things like, "You support illegals.  Americans hate you. 147 days until we vote you out." Send them often. Tell all your friends to do the same.  

Distribute pamphlets that urge citizens to quit buying any kind of permit since the city isn't enforcing the law. Cite Gaudencio Fernandez as precedent. Put them on cars in at least two locations: 1) a shopping mall, and 2) the city government parking lot.

Post their pictures so that they can be easily recognized in public and thus targeted for public ridicule. (E.g. say loud enough to be heard by them, "Hey, isn't that that spineless sellout who's helping to turn the city into a third world province?"  Or ask loudly of the target,"Is it true that you are taking bribes from Mexican drug lords?" (That's a question I'd like to yell at George Bush.)

Pies. :-)

The possibilities are endless.

As a final note, these illegals label anyone who complains about them  or tries to enforce the law as being racist.  They use it on anyone who  is doing something they don't like.  Logically therefor , "racist" must mean "you're doing something I don't like."  We need to move this new definition into the popular lexicon.  Your friend won't loan you beer money? "Dude, quit being a racist!" If your car won't start, "Dude, I need a ride - my car's being racist." :-) Get enough people doing this and the word will lose power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We really need to start using the tactics of the Left or we will certainly lose.  </p>
<p>Start posting home addresses of council members who are enabling law breaking.  That way we know where to send letters that say things like, &#8220;You support illegals.  Americans hate you. 147 days until we vote you out.&#8221; Send them often. Tell all your friends to do the same.  </p>
<p>Distribute pamphlets that urge citizens to quit buying any kind of permit since the city isn&#8217;t enforcing the law. Cite Gaudencio Fernandez as precedent. Put them on cars in at least two locations: 1) a shopping mall, and 2) the city government parking lot.</p>
<p>Post their pictures so that they can be easily recognized in public and thus targeted for public ridicule. (E.g. say loud enough to be heard by them, &#8220;Hey, isn&#8217;t that that spineless sellout who&#8217;s helping to turn the city into a third world province?&#8221;  Or ask loudly of the target,&#8221;Is it true that you are taking bribes from Mexican drug lords?&#8221; (That&#8217;s a question I&#8217;d like to yell at George Bush.)</p>
<p>Pies. <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The possibilities are endless.</p>
<p>As a final note, these illegals label anyone who complains about them  or tries to enforce the law as being racist.  They use it on anyone who  is doing something they don&#8217;t like.  Logically therefor , &#8220;racist&#8221; must mean &#8220;you&#8217;re doing something I don&#8217;t like.&#8221;  We need to move this new definition into the popular lexicon.  Your friend won&#8217;t loan you beer money? &#8220;Dude, quit being a racist!&#8221; If your car won&#8217;t start, &#8220;Dude, I need a ride - my car&#8217;s being racist.&#8221; <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Get enough people doing this and the word will lose power.</p>
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		<title>By: Liela</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70537</link>
		<dc:creator>Liela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous said on 16 Jul 2008 at 2:19 pm: 


Just for the record I didn't write this.  Wish I had thought of it....</description>
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<p>Just for the record I didn&#8217;t write this.  Wish I had thought of it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70533</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dolph said on 14 Jul 2008 at 9:57 pm: 
I am glad I don’t live in the City of Manassas.

They are probably just as glad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph said on 14 Jul 2008 at 9:57 pm:<br />
I am glad I don’t live in the City of Manassas.</p>
<p>They are probably just as glad!</p>
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		<title>By: former COM employee</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70475</link>
		<dc:creator>former COM employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70475</guid>
		<description>If I read correctly the notice of violation came from the zoning department which relates to Chapter 130 the Code of Manassas, not Chapter 14 as shown above.  I believe the Zoning Administrator has no authority to issue a NOV for any violation of chapter 14 of the City code.  I am assumming he was cited for violations of the zoning ordinance, not the ordinance mentioned above, but I may be mistaken.  Maybe Greg can research that and get back and let us know.  The City only permits public gatherings on your property with a special use permit which is mentioned in Chapter 130.  This does not include your children's b-day party as certain individuals would have you believe.  There may be a big difference in the penalties for violations of each ordinance.  If the County has laws pertaining to spitting or adultry they would only be legal if allowed by the Commonwealth of VA as we are a Dillon Rule State.  Meaning localitys may only enact laws which are specifically allowed by the Code of Virginia or in a localitys individual charter.  Just some info I thought the readers on here might find helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I read correctly the notice of violation came from the zoning department which relates to Chapter 130 the Code of Manassas, not Chapter 14 as shown above.  I believe the Zoning Administrator has no authority to issue a NOV for any violation of chapter 14 of the City code.  I am assumming he was cited for violations of the zoning ordinance, not the ordinance mentioned above, but I may be mistaken.  Maybe Greg can research that and get back and let us know.  The City only permits public gatherings on your property with a special use permit which is mentioned in Chapter 130.  This does not include your children&#8217;s b-day party as certain individuals would have you believe.  There may be a big difference in the penalties for violations of each ordinance.  If the County has laws pertaining to spitting or adultry they would only be legal if allowed by the Commonwealth of VA as we are a Dillon Rule State.  Meaning localitys may only enact laws which are specifically allowed by the Code of Virginia or in a localitys individual charter.  Just some info I thought the readers on here might find helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70469</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH well, the new leadership on the Council wants to move on with other issues and are more concerned with the opinions of outsiders then they are with the opinions of the Citizens and taxpayers of the City.    They feel companies will not want to relocate here if the City continues to try and do something about illegal immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH well, the new leadership on the Council wants to move on with other issues and are more concerned with the opinions of outsiders then they are with the opinions of the Citizens and taxpayers of the City.    They feel companies will not want to relocate here if the City continues to try and do something about illegal immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: TDB</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70466</link>
		<dc:creator>TDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70466</guid>
		<description>There's an article in today's WashPost which provides, and IMHO, an insight into the mentality of Senor Fernandez and others of like ilk. Here is a link to the article. If the link does not work, I've pasted the article below.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/14/AR2008071402087.html

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Protest Fatigue in Mexico City, A Daily Mess of Demonstrations

By Manuel Roig-Franzia
Washington Post Foreign Service 
Tuesday, July 15, 2008; Page A13 

MEXICO CITY -- On any given day, there are six or seven or eight demonstrations taking place in the Mexican capital. The city government keeps a running list of them on its Web site. 

Teachers who want more money. State-employed oil workers who want to stop privatization. Campesinos who say the government stole their land. 

There are naked protesters. Protesters in Aztec costumes. Protesters dressed like vampires. 

And they are almost always in the way. 

Blocking roads during a demonstration is considered by some Mexicans to be a kind of inalienable right. But a few politicians have begun to say -- gently, lest they become targets of protests themselves -- that enough is enough. 

"Sometimes you end up sitting half your day waiting for the roads to clear -- it's irrational, it's unjust!" Mariana Gómez del Campo, a member of Mexico City's legislative assembly, said in an interview. "I don't think there's another city like this in the world." 

Gómez, who once missed a college exam because of gridlock caused by a protest, has been trying for months to pass legislation that will establish "rules of the game" for protests, which numbered 2,000 last year alone and drew more than 9 million people. 

Restricting protests could go a long way toward keeping the roads clear. Traffic has worsened here as the city has swelled from merely huge to one of the three or four biggest in the world, a sprawling, horizonless metropolis of more than 20 million. Everyone, it seems, is trying to get somewhere at the same time. 


Roads are perpetually clogged, and don't even ask what happens when it rains. Streets turn into lakes, alleys turn into rivers. Construction is everywhere. 

But protests are the great traffic menaces, and there are all kinds. 

There are "bloqueos," or blockades, for instance, a lightning-strike sort of demonstration that often pops up in residential neighborhoods, trapping residents who want to get out and impeding those who want to get in. There are "plantons," or sit-ins, which tend to be more permanent, complete with forests of folding chairs, supply tents, mattresses and latrines. The greatest planton of all was staged after the disputed 2006 presidential election, when supporters of failed candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador camped for weeks on Avenida Reforma, one of the city's main thoroughfares. Congressman Ricardo Cantú Garza called the huge tent city "a necessary evil." 

But it is the daily, run-of-the-mill protests that seem to most infuriate commuters. Gómez calculates that the protests cost 1,056 man-hours and the equivalent of $8 million a day. She'd like to lessen that impact by corralling demonstrators and setting aside areas of the city where they can have their say without creating automobile logjams. 

"Good luck," said Francisco Ramírez, a vendor who sells fresh fruit juices near Mexico's Interior Ministry. "People here like to protest -- a lot." 

Ramírez, like many dwellers of the capital, has become an expert on protests. His stand is inside a fenced perimeter that has grown to several blocks around the ministry building, one of many protest hot spots. Inside the perimeter, there are businesses and houses -- a kind of protest-free "green zone." But even though protesters are kept on the outside, it doesn't mean matters haven't been complicated for residents and workers inside. 

Demonstrators have simply shifted to blocking the streets around the perimeter. In some ways, things have gotten harder. Ramírez parks farther and farther away. Sometimes he's so far away that he doesn't even bother to break down his stand because he can't imagine hauling it for blocks. Instead, before leaving for the night, he chains the industrial blender that is his livelihood to a post and hopes for the best. 

Nelly Rodríguez, who works in the Interior Ministry, has found herself trapped inside the safety zone by the hordes. Sometimes she sneaks out a secret exit and wobbles for blocks on high heels to reach her car. 

One recent afternoon, she was plotting her exit strategy. 

"I don't know what they're protesting about today," she said wearily. "But I know they're coming. They're always coming."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an article in today&#8217;s WashPost which provides, and IMHO, an insight into the mentality of Senor Fernandez and others of like ilk. Here is a link to the article. If the link does not work, I&#8217;ve pasted the article below.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/14/AR2008071402087.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/14/AR2008071402087.html</a></p>
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Protest Fatigue in Mexico City, A Daily Mess of Demonstrations</p>
<p>By Manuel Roig-Franzia<br />
Washington Post Foreign Service<br />
Tuesday, July 15, 2008; Page A13 </p>
<p>MEXICO CITY &#8212; On any given day, there are six or seven or eight demonstrations taking place in the Mexican capital. The city government keeps a running list of them on its Web site. </p>
<p>Teachers who want more money. State-employed oil workers who want to stop privatization. Campesinos who say the government stole their land. </p>
<p>There are naked protesters. Protesters in Aztec costumes. Protesters dressed like vampires. </p>
<p>And they are almost always in the way. </p>
<p>Blocking roads during a demonstration is considered by some Mexicans to be a kind of inalienable right. But a few politicians have begun to say &#8212; gently, lest they become targets of protests themselves &#8212; that enough is enough. </p>
<p>&#8220;Sometimes you end up sitting half your day waiting for the roads to clear &#8212; it&#8217;s irrational, it&#8217;s unjust!&#8221; Mariana Gómez del Campo, a member of Mexico City&#8217;s legislative assembly, said in an interview. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s another city like this in the world.&#8221; </p>
<p>Gómez, who once missed a college exam because of gridlock caused by a protest, has been trying for months to pass legislation that will establish &#8220;rules of the game&#8221; for protests, which numbered 2,000 last year alone and drew more than 9 million people. </p>
<p>Restricting protests could go a long way toward keeping the roads clear. Traffic has worsened here as the city has swelled from merely huge to one of the three or four biggest in the world, a sprawling, horizonless metropolis of more than 20 million. Everyone, it seems, is trying to get somewhere at the same time. </p>
<p>Roads are perpetually clogged, and don&#8217;t even ask what happens when it rains. Streets turn into lakes, alleys turn into rivers. Construction is everywhere. </p>
<p>But protests are the great traffic menaces, and there are all kinds. </p>
<p>There are &#8220;bloqueos,&#8221; or blockades, for instance, a lightning-strike sort of demonstration that often pops up in residential neighborhoods, trapping residents who want to get out and impeding those who want to get in. There are &#8220;plantons,&#8221; or sit-ins, which tend to be more permanent, complete with forests of folding chairs, supply tents, mattresses and latrines. The greatest planton of all was staged after the disputed 2006 presidential election, when supporters of failed candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador camped for weeks on Avenida Reforma, one of the city&#8217;s main thoroughfares. Congressman Ricardo Cantú Garza called the huge tent city &#8220;a necessary evil.&#8221; </p>
<p>But it is the daily, run-of-the-mill protests that seem to most infuriate commuters. Gómez calculates that the protests cost 1,056 man-hours and the equivalent of $8 million a day. She&#8217;d like to lessen that impact by corralling demonstrators and setting aside areas of the city where they can have their say without creating automobile logjams. </p>
<p>&#8220;Good luck,&#8221; said Francisco Ramírez, a vendor who sells fresh fruit juices near Mexico&#8217;s Interior Ministry. &#8220;People here like to protest &#8212; a lot.&#8221; </p>
<p>Ramírez, like many dwellers of the capital, has become an expert on protests. His stand is inside a fenced perimeter that has grown to several blocks around the ministry building, one of many protest hot spots. Inside the perimeter, there are businesses and houses &#8212; a kind of protest-free &#8220;green zone.&#8221; But even though protesters are kept on the outside, it doesn&#8217;t mean matters haven&#8217;t been complicated for residents and workers inside. </p>
<p>Demonstrators have simply shifted to blocking the streets around the perimeter. In some ways, things have gotten harder. Ramírez parks farther and farther away. Sometimes he&#8217;s so far away that he doesn&#8217;t even bother to break down his stand because he can&#8217;t imagine hauling it for blocks. Instead, before leaving for the night, he chains the industrial blender that is his livelihood to a post and hopes for the best. </p>
<p>Nelly Rodríguez, who works in the Interior Ministry, has found herself trapped inside the safety zone by the hordes. Sometimes she sneaks out a secret exit and wobbles for blocks on high heels to reach her car. </p>
<p>One recent afternoon, she was plotting her exit strategy. </p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re protesting about today,&#8221; she said wearily. &#8220;But I know they&#8217;re coming. They&#8217;re always coming.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70465</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sign "ruins the landscape and quaintness"?? Come on, that street is ugly, and the houses are run down. I dislike the sign too, but let's not make this area out to be millionaire mile.

 I am equally as disgusted by the ugly new cookie cutter office buildings popping up everywhere as I am by the sign.  The city officials should be ashamed of these ugly buildings as well.  Pretty soon, all of the old town area will be encased in four story brick buildings that will block out the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sign &#8220;ruins the landscape and quaintness&#8221;?? Come on, that street is ugly, and the houses are run down. I dislike the sign too, but let&#8217;s not make this area out to be millionaire mile.</p>
<p> I am equally as disgusted by the ugly new cookie cutter office buildings popping up everywhere as I am by the sign.  The city officials should be ashamed of these ugly buildings as well.  Pretty soon, all of the old town area will be encased in four story brick buildings that will block out the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: C.  Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70460</link>
		<dc:creator>C.  Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw the sign up close and personal for the first time last week and was shocked at how huge it actually is.  The pictures in the paper don't do it justice.  I literally drove around the block so that I could see it again.  What a huge and ugly eyesore.    I used to live in Manassas and absolutely loved the charm of old town.  THIS sign is completely ruins the landscape and quaintness of Manassas.  The city officials should be ashamed.  What's next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw the sign up close and personal for the first time last week and was shocked at how huge it actually is.  The pictures in the paper don&#8217;t do it justice.  I literally drove around the block so that I could see it again.  What a huge and ugly eyesore.    I used to live in Manassas and absolutely loved the charm of old town.  THIS sign is completely ruins the landscape and quaintness of Manassas.  The city officials should be ashamed.  What&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: Advocator</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70450</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that sign!</description>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70446</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The City of Manassas has assembly ordinances that the county does not have.  Specifically the law quoted here that pertains to the Liberty Street property as well as having to have a permit for a demonstration.  

I have never tested the county adultery or spitting laws so I do not know.  I believe both of those antiquated laws are also in the Code of Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City of Manassas has assembly ordinances that the county does not have.  Specifically the law quoted here that pertains to the Liberty Street property as well as having to have a permit for a demonstration.  </p>
<p>I have never tested the county adultery or spitting laws so I do not know.  I believe both of those antiquated laws are also in the Code of Virginia.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70440</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else has this man done?  I'm sure somewhere in his house he has 2 electrical outlets that are further than 8 feet apart.  Aren't there more important things to gripe about like Obama's birth certificate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else has this man done?  I&#8217;m sure somewhere in his house he has 2 electrical outlets that are further than 8 feet apart.  Aren&#8217;t there more important things to gripe about like Obama&#8217;s birth certificate?</p>
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		<title>By: Turn PW Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70434</link>
		<dc:creator>Turn PW Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point of clarification...that "old mantra of communists" is actually from Orwell's skewering of Stalinist Communists in "Animal Farm." (The actual quote is "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.")  I doubt you'll find anyone claiming to be a communist who recites this "mantra" as a tenet of their political views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point of clarification&#8230;that &#8220;old mantra of communists&#8221; is actually from Orwell&#8217;s skewering of Stalinist Communists in &#8220;Animal Farm.&#8221; (The actual quote is &#8220;All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.&#8221;)  I doubt you&#8217;ll find anyone claiming to be a communist who recites this &#8220;mantra&#8221; as a tenet of their political views.</p>
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		<title>By: Junes_Reston</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70432</link>
		<dc:creator>Junes_Reston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70432</guid>
		<description>When Herndon dragged its feet, it took a law suit to snap the town council back to reality.  Maybe it's time a group of town residents hire an attorney and take on the town with charges of selective enforcement.

What would be ideal if there was ever a similar incident where the town took immediate action to strengthen the case.  

I can't imagine someone, somewhere at some time didn't try to cross the line by hosting a public demonstration without  a permit - and got their hands slapped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Herndon dragged its feet, it took a law suit to snap the town council back to reality.  Maybe it&#8217;s time a group of town residents hire an attorney and take on the town with charges of selective enforcement.</p>
<p>What would be ideal if there was ever a similar incident where the town took immediate action to strengthen the case.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine someone, somewhere at some time didn&#8217;t try to cross the line by hosting a public demonstration without  a permit - and got their hands slapped.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveonDublin</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70428</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveonDublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70428</guid>
		<description>Anonymous 10:58 - this sounds like a common Anti(blog) reaction - to take the  discussion to such an extreme that common sense is completely thrown out the window.

My apologies for having to dumb this down, but there is a difference between someone holding a birthday party for a child, and staging a march where many people are camped out on your lawn, and not to mention trouble (lots of people both for and against something we all feel strongly about). I would feel the same way if the Anti-illegals staged a march as well.

Then again, I don't expect the illegal apologists to see any weight to following laws when they don't understand the implications of them.

If perhaps you are going to instill in your 5 year old to break laws and inspire acts of civil disobedience, then perhaps you should get a permit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous 10:58 - this sounds like a common Anti(blog) reaction - to take the  discussion to such an extreme that common sense is completely thrown out the window.</p>
<p>My apologies for having to dumb this down, but there is a difference between someone holding a birthday party for a child, and staging a march where many people are camped out on your lawn, and not to mention trouble (lots of people both for and against something we all feel strongly about). I would feel the same way if the Anti-illegals staged a march as well.</p>
<p>Then again, I don&#8217;t expect the illegal apologists to see any weight to following laws when they don&#8217;t understand the implications of them.</p>
<p>If perhaps you are going to instill in your 5 year old to break laws and inspire acts of civil disobedience, then perhaps you should get a permit.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70425</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70425</guid>
		<description>Interesting - the citation from the city actually says ANY outdoor gathering, not just public.  So my daughter's birthday party will also be in violation.

Anarchy Rules!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting - the citation from the city actually says ANY outdoor gathering, not just public.  So my daughter&#8217;s birthday party will also be in violation.</p>
<p>Anarchy Rules!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Thumper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70424</link>
		<dc:creator>Thumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70424</guid>
		<description>ceejay, since sign inside the city of Manassas, it's not really in preview of Chief Deane. If you want to file a complaint though, you might want to try Chief Skinner of Manassas City Police Department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ceejay, since sign inside the city of Manassas, it&#8217;s not really in preview of Chief Deane. If you want to file a complaint though, you might want to try Chief Skinner of Manassas City Police Department.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlington Minority</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70423</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlington Minority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70423</guid>
		<description>Greg, someone should see if Lou Dobbs can do a follow-up to the Fox News coverage, since Lou shows far less patience towards anarchists than does the fair-and-balanced network, and deservedly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, someone should see if Lou Dobbs can do a follow-up to the Fox News coverage, since Lou shows far less patience towards anarchists than does the fair-and-balanced network, and deservedly so.</p>
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		<title>By: ceejay</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70422</link>
		<dc:creator>ceejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70422</guid>
		<description>how much credit has Chief Deane taken for the downturn in crime in the last year since the resolutions went into effect?

does Chief Deane bother to have his officers check whether this guy has a permit for his mulitple public demonstrations on his property?  bet he doesn't.  that's just too damn much work.  nope, i don't think too much of Charlie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how much credit has Chief Deane taken for the downturn in crime in the last year since the resolutions went into effect?</p>
<p>does Chief Deane bother to have his officers check whether this guy has a permit for his mulitple public demonstrations on his property?  bet he doesn&#8217;t.  that&#8217;s just too damn much work.  nope, i don&#8217;t think too much of Charlie.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70420</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70420</guid>
		<description>I liked the "No Trespassing" signs and wish they remained. What a delicious irony. I'm wondering when he will turn the property into a day-laborer center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the &#8220;No Trespassing&#8221; signs and wish they remained. What a delicious irony. I&#8217;m wondering when he will turn the property into a day-laborer center.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70418</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/07/14/gaudencio-fenandez-violates-yet-another-ordinance/#comment-70418</guid>
		<description>I am glad I don't live in the City of Manassas.  Too many rules.

[Ed note: you mean like having spitting on a sidewalk or committing adultery being misdemeanor offenses in Prince William County?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad I don&#8217;t live in the City of Manassas.  Too many rules.</p>
<p>[Ed note: you mean like having spitting on a sidewalk or committing adultery being misdemeanor offenses in Prince William County?]</p>
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