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By Greg L | 20 July 2008 | Prince William County | 128 Comments

A couple of observations from over the weekend worth mentioning:

No, PWCPS Superintendent Walts is not resigning/been fired or whatever, despite rumors to that effect.  Some folks have confused the resignation of the State Superintendent with Dr. Walts.  For beter or worse, Dr. Walts is still with us.

Nice Civil War re-enactment event at the Ben Lomond House this weekend.  Many thanks to the volunteers who braved high temperatures and humidity in period costume over the weekend and made this event a lot of fun for young and old alike.  My six tear-old was very impressed.

Folks are documenting the disgusting mess at the old AltMed facility on 234 and letting their elected officials know.  Lots of gang graffiti there, and of course plenty of overgrown weeds, making for some unhappy folks.



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128 Comments

  1. Vigilant1 said on 21 Jul 2008 at 12:22 am:
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    MS13 tagged the bridge over Flat Branch this weekend. We have MS13 on one end of the bridge and Magic SUR13 on the other. I called the PWCPD early sunday morning and notified them of the problem. That bridge has been tagged many times in the past and the area underneath the bridge has been tagged.

  2. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 2:50 am:
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    The police were informed at 9am Friday morning. Not too “vigilant” lately. You’re two days behind. You might want to rethink that name.

  3. Ducky said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:01 am:
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    From the NY Times:

    After roughly doubling in value from 2000 to 2005, home prices have fallen about 17 percent — and more like 25 percent in inflation- adjusted terms — according to the widely watched Case-Shiller index.

    Even so, most economists think house prices must fall an additional 10 to 15 percent to get back to reality. One useful measure is the relationship between the costs of buying and renting a home. From 1985 to 2002, the average American home sold for about 14 times the annual rent for a similar home, according to Moody’s Economy.com. By early 2006, home prices ballooned to 25 times rental prices. Since then, the ratio has dipped back to about 20 — still far above the historical norm.

    Even as construction grinds down, there are still many more houses on the market than there are people to buy them, and more on the way as more homeowners slip into foreclosure.

    Enough houses are on the market to satisfy demand for the next two- and-a-half years without building a single new one.

    The time it takes to sell a newly completed house has expanded from an average of four months in 2005 to about nine months, according to analysis by Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/business/economy/19econ.html?
    ei=5070&en=a9adc5b41087589c&ex=1217131200&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1216489196- bZkAORZhVmKLXmpPuugH8w

    Are there any new homes being constructed in PWC?

  4. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:01 am:
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    Pardon me, you’re three days late. It was called in Thursday morning.

  5. Ducky said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:08 am:
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    Barack Obama visits Iraq
    By Dean Yates
    57 minutes ago

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama flew into Iraq on Monday, thrusting U.S. strategy in the country and troop levels to the centre-stage of the November election race.

    Obama has called for the removal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office should he win the election. He visited Afghanistan over the weekend, the other big foreign policy challenge the next American president will face.

    Obama has come under attack from Republican candidate John McCain for not making a recent visit to assess conditions in Iraq, where violence is at a four-year low. McCain has been to Iraq eight times while Obama’s only other trip was in 2006.

    The U.S. embassy said Obama, who is visiting Iraq as part of a U.S. congressional delegation, would meet senior Iraqi officials, U.S. military commanders and American troops. He does not have any news conferences scheduled while in Iraq.

    Seeking to boost his foreign policy credentials, Obama will travel to other countries in the Middle East and also visit major powers in Europe this week.

    Obama courted controversy on July 3 when he said he might “refine” his views on withdrawing combat troops from Iraq within 16 months but later said his stance had been unchanged for more than a year and that he intended “to end this war.”

    McCain says a U.S. troop buildup last year helped boost stability in Iraq and has criticized Democrats’ vows for a quick withdrawal as “reckless.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/iraq_dc;_ylt=AkcZ6IsgzFlbvNCDYeFiYYRX6GMA

  6. Rick Bentley said on 21 Jul 2008 at 6:11 am:
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    That’s the “future home” of Villachez and Associates?

    I wonder about the role local realtors played in encouraging people to come here ilegally, flyers in Mexico and so forth.

  7. junes_reston said on 21 Jul 2008 at 6:56 am:
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    Another of Gerry’s immigrants has gone underground and may be living in a sanctuary community near you.

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    Herndon police search for sexual assault suspect
    Fairfax County
    By Gregg MacDonald
    Source: Fairfax County Times
    THURSDAY, JULY 17 2008
    UPDATED THURSDAY, JULY 17 2008

    Herndon police are searching for a Honduran man accused of sexually assaulting a Herndon woman after being released from jail, where he had been held since April on charges of assaulting the same woman.

    On July 11, police say Wilmer Lopez-Mejia, 29, snuck up behind a Herndon woman believed to be a girlfriend, in front of her home in the 400 block of Virginia Ave.

    According to police, Lopez-Mejia forced the woman into her home and sexually assaulted her at knifepoint overnight. “She was cut a few times with a knife,” said Lt. Jeffery Coulter of the HPD.

    Lopez-Mejia fled the residence the following morning.

    He was reported to be in the 1200 block of Elden Street on Saturday night, where police executed a search by canine and helicopter, but to no avail.

    The victim’s injuries are not considered life-threatening, according to police. Lopez-Mejia was originally arrested on April 17 for “running a car into the front of the victim’s house and trying to abduct her,” Coulter said.

    Police are continuing to search for Lopez-Mejia, who is on the loose and described as 5-ft. 7-inches tall, and weighing 150 pounds.

    Anyone with information is asked to contact the HPD at (703) 435-6837.

    http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/news/2008/jul/17/hpd-searching-sexual-assault-suspect/

  8. IllegalisILLEGAL said on 21 Jul 2008 at 8:33 am:
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    Rick Bentley, Villachez and Associates no longer owns the property,it is being foreclosed on by Wachovia bank.

  9. IllegalisILLEGAL said on 21 Jul 2008 at 8:36 am:
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    junes_reston, I sure hope they catch this dirtbag! That young lady is lucky to still be alive.

  10. G Man said on 21 Jul 2008 at 8:51 am:
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    Gaudencio Fernandez may need to rethink his “Native American” sign diatribe. Research is now pointing to the first humans to settle in the Americas were in fact ……….. Europeans. Check it out:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080701193203.htm

  11. G Man said on 21 Jul 2008 at 8:52 am:
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    WE’RE BAAAAAACCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!

  12. J. Tyler Ballance said on 21 Jul 2008 at 8:59 am:
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    In Virginia, the Public-Private Transportation Act of 1995 (“VA PPTA”), as amended by the 2005 General Assembly (VA. CODE ANN. § 56-556, et seq.), is the legislative framework enabling the Commonwealth of Virginia to enter into agreements with private entities to construct, improve, maintain and operate transportation facilities.

    When these “partnerships” are enacted, the citizens end up paying four times as much had they just funded the roads through taxes and bonds.

    This law MUST be repealed and our sovereignty restored.

    The current “Hot Lane” contract must be terminated by the Commonwealth. If it is allowed to go forward, we will abdicate control over a major artery and strap our children with 75 years (minimum) of tolls.

    We must pay for our own roads. These two companies have bought our legislators, who in turn, sold us and our children out:

    Who owns Flour Corporation?

    Who owns Transurban?

    Red China, Dutch, Australia.

    Do you want your kids to be paying these guys for the right to drive on Virginia roads for the rest of their lives?

  13. CitizenofManassas said on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:24 am:
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    Fox news is currently running a story about an illegal who killed a father and two sons in San Francisco. Thanks to the policy of the City that embraced illegals, the illegal was able to stay in the City despite previous criminal activity. The poor mother/wife lost her entire family because of the City policy.

    OK illegal supporters, tell us how racist and bigoted we are in your defense of this crime and illegals.

  14. k.o'toole said on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:35 am:
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    Obama is a fraud and so is his birth certificate apparently: http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12993.htm

  15. Vigilant1 said on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:02 am:
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    Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 2:50 am:
    The police were informed at 9am Friday morning.

    And there were still there at 11:00 am Sunday. That is not a road I travel daily smart A$$.

  16. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:10 am:
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    Ah, feel the love.

  17. IllegalisILLEGAL said on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:34 am:
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    COM, I hope the woman this happened to sues the hell out of San Francisco for aiding and abbeting illegals. For having a safe haven for criminals. Three more deaths that were preventable!

  18. Adjmajor said on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:39 am:
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    Could someone refresh my memory as to what needs to be done when graffiti appears on a business? The Taco Bell at Tackett’s Mill was hit over the weekend with HUGE taggings for SUR-13. I called it into police on Friday night and so far, the taggings are still there…aren’t these sapose to come down ASAP?

    Thanks!

  19. manassascityresident said on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:43 am:
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    k.o’toole said on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:35 am:

    WOW! Thanks for that link.

  20. CitizenofManassas said on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:45 am:
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    Illegal,

    Yup, I hope she does. However, I doubt the case would get far.

  21. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 12:18 pm:
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    Adjmajor said on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:39 am:
    Could someone refresh my memory as to what needs to be done when graffiti appears on a business? The Taco Bell at Tackett’s Mill was hit over the weekend with HUGE taggings for SUR-13. I called it into police on Friday night and so far, the taggings are still there…aren’t these sapose to come down ASAP?

    Thanks!

    Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:01 am:
    Pardon me, you’re three days late. It was called in Thursday morning.

    Ask the above idiot. He/she has all the answers!

  22. John Light said on 21 Jul 2008 at 12:21 pm:
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    THE LARK PROGRAM!

    A Lady liberal wrote a lot of letters to the White House complaining about the treatment of a captive insurgent (terrorist) being held in Guantanamo Bay.

    She received back the following reply:

    The White House
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    Washington, D.C. 20016

    Dear Concerned Citizen,

    Thank you for your recent letter roundly criticizing our treatment of the Taliban and Al Quaeda detainees
    currently being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    Our administration takes these matters seriously and
    your opinion was heard loud and clear here in Washington.
    You’ll be pleased to learn that, thanks to the concerns of citizens like yourself, we are creating a new division of the Terrorist Retraining Program,to be called the “Liberals Accept Responsibility for Killers” program, or LARK for short.

    In accordance with the guidelines of this new program, we have decided to place one terrorist under your personal care. Your personal detainee has been selected and scheduled for transportation under heavily armed guard to your residence next Monday.

    Ali Mohammed Ahmed bin Mahmud (you can just call him
    Ahmed) is to be cared for pursuant to the standards you personally demanded in your letter of complaint. It will likely be necessary for you to hire some assistant caretakers.

    We will conduct weekly inspections to ensure that your standards of care for Ahmed are Commensurate with those you so strongly recommended in your letter.

    Although Ahmed is a sociopath and extremely violent, we hope that your sensitivity to what you described as his “attitudinal problem” will help him overcome these character flaws. Perhaps you are correct in describing these problems as mere cultural differences. We understand that you plan to offer
    counseling and home schooling.

    Your adopted terrorist is extremely proficient in hand-to-hand combat and can extinguish human life with such simple items as a pencil or nail clippers. We advise that you do not ask him to demonstrate these skills at your next yoga group. He is also expert at making a wide variety of explosive devices from common household products, so you may wish to keep those
    items locked up, unless (in your opinion) this might offend him.

    Ahmed will not wish to interact with you or your daughters (except sexually), since he views females as a subhuman form of property. This is a particularly sensitive subject for him and he has been known to show violent tendencies around women who fail to comply with the new dress code that he will recommend as more appropriate attire.

    I’m sure you will come to enjoy the anonymity offered by the burka — over time.

    Just remember that it is all part of “respecting his culture and his religious beliefs” — wasn’t that how you put it?

    Thanks again for your letter. We truly appreciate it when folks like you keep us informed of the proper way to do our job. You take good care of Ahmed - and remember..we’ll be watching.

    Good luck!

  23. Free Citizen said on 21 Jul 2008 at 1:43 pm:
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    Over 3 weeks ago ,I called in violations to the non-emergency # for the Police. The gal that ans. the phone did not have the foggiest idea why I was calling. She asked me if it was my property ,asked why is it wrong to have basket ball hoops in the street and what is the problem with car carriers being on residential steerts. Seems some one needs to educate those getting paid to answer the phones.
    Today I called about Graffity on a business at Horner Rd.She asked me if it was my building?I said no, but it’s Graffity and the owner or the County needs to get it down now. It’s the Law.I then told her about a large commercial truck with a large bed and a large panel truck, plus a large car carrier, all on the street.
    The answer was well isn’t that where they should be? I said not in a Residential neighborhood.

    Wow. This is getting worse every day. Guess I’tt have to e-mail the Chief.

    Has anyone else had problems with the ones answering the phone????

    Thanks.

  24. Free Citizen said on 21 Jul 2008 at 1:45 pm:
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    Over 3 weeks ago ,I called in violations to the non-emergency # for the Police. The gal that ans. the phone did not have the foggiest idea why I was calling. She asked me if it was my property ,asked why is it wrong to have basket ball hoops in the street and what is the problem with car carriers being on residential steerts. Seems some one needs to educate those getting paid to answer the phones.
    Today I called about Graffity on a business at Horner Rd.She asked me if it was my building?I said no, but it’s Graffity and the owner or the County needs to get it down now. It’s the Law.I then told her about a large commercial truck with a large bed and a large panel truck, plus a large car carrier, all on the street.
    The answer was well isn’t that where they should be? I said not in a Residential neighborhood.

    Wow. This is getting worse every day. Guess I’ll have to e-mail the Chief.

    Has anyone else had problems with the ones answering the phone????

    Thanks.

  25. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 1:46 pm:
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    So do I! That’s why *I* called first thing Thursday morning. I guess you were busy poking around your neighborhood.
    Sorry, early bird gets the worm, not the dirty bird.

  26. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 1:48 pm:
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    Above for Vigilante numbero uno!

  27. NW said on 21 Jul 2008 at 2:12 pm:
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    I posted this on the Welcome To Manassas thread, but thought that some might not see it. Here it is again.

    NW said on 21 Jul 2008 at 1:42 pm:
    About the building with the gang grafitti on Old Centreville Road, across from the 7/11…..

    I called about this building when they started the foundation. It sure looked like a day labor site to me. But no, the building is going to be for “retail and hotel” purposes. hmmm A hotel on Old Centreville Road. For who?

    Then I called about the grafitti and have sent pictures to Neighborhood Services. The officer(s) that went to look at it made the report that the grafitti will be covered once the building is finished……

    Neighborhood Services are not taking this for an answer, and are trying to do whatever is in their power to get it cleaned up. They keep me informed of any progress being made, which means they are trying!!! But they do rely on volunteers to get the grafitti cleaned up. If I get information about a clean up on this building or the bridge, I’ll let you guys know.

    I went to take pictures of the bridge the morning after it was tagged. I took
    a bunch, and then noticed I didn’t have the dam card in the camera…no shots at all. But….I did notice 6 guys of different ethnic backgrounds playing basketball in the middle of the day at a house nearby. They were keeping an eye on me. Then…one of them started SPRAYPAINTING a drawer under the carport. Black spray paint. Ya think this house and the tags are related???

    FYI - the County has sent a letter to the owner of the gang grafitti on Old
    Cent. Road. Maybe a picture of that building should be at the top of this thread saying “Welcome to Manassas”. It is the FIRST thing you see when you cross from Fx. Co. into PW Co. ARG.

  28. Mando said on 21 Jul 2008 at 2:18 pm:
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    All these taggings indicate it’s going to be a hellatious school year.

  29. Mando said on 21 Jul 2008 at 2:26 pm:
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    It’s sad to think the reason taggings are on the rise is because it’s summer and these hoodlums aren’t in school. In school harrassing teachers and our kids…

  30. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:11 pm:
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    NW said on 21 Jul 2008 at 2:12 pm:
    But….I did notice 6 guys of different ethnic backgrounds playing basketball in the middle of the day at a house nearby. They were keeping an eye on me. Then…one of them started SPRAYPAINTING a drawer under the carport. Black spray paint. Ya think this house and the tags are related???

    If it is the first house on the left (grey) after the bridge going towards the COM, it is possible. That house has had more than nine cars parked in the driveway at all hours of the day and night. There were mattresses stacked on the wall at the side of the house before neighborhood services were called a few weeks ago.

  31. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:16 pm:
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    Free Citizen said on 21 Jul 2008 at 1:45 pm:
    Has anyone else had problems with the ones answering the phone????

    Thanks.

    YES! Some are good at what they do and respond. Others “could care less” and have the attitude of “don’t bother me with facts.”

  32. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:20 pm:
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    Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 1:46 pm:

    Sounds like you have had “one too many worms.”

  33. DPortM said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:51 pm:
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    For Graffiti:

    http://www.pwcgov.org/default.aspx?topic=010013001310003912

    REPORT IT - RECORD IT - REMOVE IT!

    There are things you can do to prevent graffiti, and specific steps to take in response to spotting it. The process that Prince William County has adopted for dealing with graffiti is for anyone who spots it, to report it to the Police (703-792-6500). The Police will record it by photographing the graffiti and will pass the report to the Gang Task Force and to the Clean Community Council. The Gang Task Force uses it to track, investigate and prosecute gang crimes. The Clean Community Council is a Prince William County partner that has undertaken the huge task of seeing that the graffiti is removed. The Council contacts the property owner who is responsible for removing evidence of the crime. Through citizen surveys, the residents of Prince William County think graffiti scars our community for much too long before removal. For that reason, we have set a goal of having all graffiti removed in three days. It is frustrating if you are a victim of graffiti, but it is your responsibility to remove it.

  34. DPortM said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:52 pm:
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    For Zoning Violations in the County:

    http://www.pwcgov.org/default.aspx?topic=010013001290003841

    Enforcement of the PWC Zoning Ordinance

    Property Code Enforcement is responsible for enforcing the entire Prince William County Zoning Ordinance. The ordinance is available online. The goal of this program is to ensure properties in Prince William County are maintained and used in accordance with the County’s land use requirements. The most common issues which may result in violations are:

    Inoperable vehicles on private property
    Commercial vehicles on private property (please call for clarification on this type of violation)
    Storage of items outside in the public view including under a porch or carport, such as trash containers, car parts, tools, construction materials, etc.
    Dump heap/trash storage
    Illegal accessory structures
    Illegal business
    Over occupancy

    Please note two things: 1) Inoperable vehicles on the public streets should be reported to the Prince William County Police non-emergency number at 703-792-6500. 2) Neighborhood Services does not issue any zoning permits or approvals. Permits and approvals are issued by Zoning Administration within the Planning Office.

  35. DPortM said on 21 Jul 2008 at 3:54 pm:
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    PWC online zoning complaint form:

    http://www.pwcgov.org/default.aspx?topic=010013000250001825

  36. Adjmajor said on 21 Jul 2008 at 4:39 pm:
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    I have had some problems with dispatch when I have called into the non-emergency number with people who don’t seem to understand why I’m calling about graffiti. However, when I called in Friday night about the Tacketts Mill Taco Bell, the woman I spoke to understand the problem. However, the taggings are still there, so what was the point?

  37. DPortM said on 21 Jul 2008 at 4:45 pm:
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    The problem is where the graffiti is located - is it on private property? Yes to the Taco Bell. Currently the county does not have the authority to go onto private property and abate graffiti. It is the property owner’s responsibility - see above post on Graffiti and the County’s info with a link to the website.

  38. es_la_ley said on 21 Jul 2008 at 5:14 pm:
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    Upcoming gun shows…

    July 25-27 Gun Show Dulles Expo Center Chantilly

    Aug 2-3 Gun Show VFW Post 1503 Minnieville Rd Dale City

  39. DPortM said on 21 Jul 2008 at 5:18 pm:
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    Thanks, es_la_ley!

  40. Bridget said on 21 Jul 2008 at 5:19 pm:
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    COM, Thanks for bringing up this story.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/21/sf-sanctimony-policy-enables-murder/

    Of course, she fails to address the real reason for their deaths: A woeful lack of TLC.

    Have You Hugged a Thug today?

    Juan Pacheco has been touring around with his “Los Lonely Boys” presentation for years. This sums up what he said at a church basement meeting 6 years ago:

    a) None of his gang participation would have occured had his parents been handed the good life upon their arrival. Forced, he said, to work two or three jobs - they had no choice but to stop supervising and raising their son.

    b) Nobody but the gang members offered him attention, guidence, security and a sense of belonging.

    c) Things got ugly real fast. Companionship turned into captivity. He was facing the same dissolution that his parents had faced. They all got duped.

    d) He unvailed his main prop - a huge stack of police and court records as proof of all his bad deeds and that even the U.S. legal system withheld their love and understanding.

    e) He summed it up by basically saying that if more is not done for and provided to “his” community - bad things will happen. Americans must open their wallets and their hearts so that nobody feels left out and unappreciated.

    He smilingly dismissed any talk of the possibility of deporting alien gang members by raising the ” Nope. Can’t do that - we are indigenous” card.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZbN7XY828

    http://media.www.lhueagleye.com/media/storage/paper485/news/2008/04/16/Features/From-Yesterdays.Violence.To.Tomorrows.Hope-3344206.shtml

  41. Emma said on 21 Jul 2008 at 5:19 pm:
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    Some good news for the PWC economy from the Post this weekend:

    Julian Fore, real estate consultant, was speaking to the PW Regional Chamber of Commerce last week. Some excerpts:

    Despite the tough economic times, the region continues to flourish, he said, adding about 28,000 jobs from April 2007 to this April. Another “telling statistic,” Fore said, is an unemployment rate that hovers at about 3.5 percent, two percentage points lower than the national average.

    The number of vacant office fronts is declining in Northern Virginia, and the area is a top location for retail stores, Fore said. With average household income that’s more than $40,000 above the national average, people have additional money to spend.

    Although there is no way to predict when the economy will turn around, Fore said, Prince William might already be bouncing back, as statistics show home sales are beginning to rise. Data from the Metropolitan Regional Information Systems show 834 sales in June, an 83 percent jump from the 456 units sold in June 2007. In Manassas, home sales surged 178 percent, with 37 units sold in June 2007 and 103 units sold this June.

    Read more at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/18/AR2008071803495.html

    Something for the anti’s to chew on at their next economic gloom-and-doom party, coming to a “struggling” restaurant near you.

  42. Sandy said on 21 Jul 2008 at 5:41 pm:
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    This article has nothing to do with PW County but, everyone
    can use a good laugh once in a while. Butler County, Ohio
    Sheriff Richard K. Jones has gained an excellent reputation for
    being very aggressive in enforcing immigration law. His
    office had an opening for an administrative clerk and ran an ad
    in the local paper’s help wanted secton. This is what happened
    to a potential job applicant. From the Middletown Journal
    newspaper:

    Background check ends in fraud charges for job seeker

    By Lauren Pack

    Staff Writer

    Thursday, July 17, 2008

    Genesis Mahelet Garcia-Garcia

    HAMILTON — An illegal immigrant was arrested Wednesday, July 16, in the lobby of the Butler County Sheriff’s Office when she allegedly passed fake identification while trying to get a background check for a job, according to sheriff’s officials.

    Genesis Mahelet Garcia-Garcia, 25, of Sixth Avenue in Hamilton, is charged with two counts of forgery and one count of identity fraud. She is in the country from Mexico illegally, according to deputies, Garcia is also being held in the Butler County Jail on an ICE holder and faces possible deportation.

  43. Anonymous said on 21 Jul 2008 at 5:52 pm:
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    It sounds like the county had better come up with a real quick plan to clean up graffiti. If the grass isn’t mowed, there is a good chance the graffiti won’t be cleaned up either. It is quite expensive to clean up if sand blasting or painting is involved.

  44. Brian Leeper said on 21 Jul 2008 at 5:53 pm:
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    A friend of mine put an offer on a foreclosure in West Gate of Lomond with FHA financing. The FHA appraiser found three things wrong: (1) mold in the basement, (2) peeling paint on the exterior of the house, and (3) unable to test the boiler. All of these needed to be fixed for the loan to go through.

    The bank is selling the house as-is so they didn’t want to fix anything. So my friend asked the bank if HE could make the repairs. The bank agreed (after making him sign a hold-harmless agreement) and we worked through the weekend to clean the mold out of the basement (which meant removing and replacing a fair amount of drywall), fix the peeling paint, and fire up and test the boiler.

    The FHA appraiser came by today, reinspected the property, and cleared it. So it appears that my friend will be the new owner of a house in West Gate of Lomond (which he is buying to live in, not as a rental property).

    So, if you are looking at buying a foreclosure with an FHA loan, don’t overlook the possibility of asking the bank if you can make the repairs yourself, if you have the skills and ability to do so. It may just work out.

    There’s the risk that you can make the repairs and still not get the loan. That is a risk that my friend decided would be acceptable to him given that this property was selling for a low enough price.

  45. Marcie Harris said on 21 Jul 2008 at 7:57 pm:
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    Brian Leeper, what a wonderful friend you are to have spent your
    weekend helping your friend repair the house and ready it for inspection.
    Your friend is blessed indeed!

  46. Bridget said on 21 Jul 2008 at 8:47 pm:
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    Marcie is right!

    When I read “… if you have the skills and ability to do so.” I thought to myself - hey, not to mention a fine pal like Brian!

    Well done!

  47. New Dawn said on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:36 pm:
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    All is rosie in PWC!!!!!!

  48. New Dawn said on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:38 pm:
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    I bought here a few months ago. I wanted to be somewhere where the politico’s aren’t afraid to do something about the illegals.

  49. Maureen said on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:46 pm:
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    Brian Leeper, How’s the campaign going?

  50. Maureen said on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:46 pm:
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    Wrongful death suit filed in fatal crash involving illegal immigrant
    http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/search.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-07-18-0234.html

  51. New Dawn said on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:47 pm:
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    What is Brian running for?

  52. New Dawn said on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:47 pm:
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    Gotta go. Work comes early.

  53. Princess Billy-Bob said on 21 Jul 2008 at 9:48 pm:
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    ….do something about illegals….spoken lilke a true champ….Welcome to Prince Billy Bob County.

  54. Brian Leeper said on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:28 pm:
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    I’m a Republican running for Manassas Park City Council. Actually I should say I’m THE Republican running for Manassas Park City Council.

    My campaign is in the planning/research phase right now.

    My email address is brian.leeper@gmail.com if you would like to send me an email regarding my campaign, or anything else.

  55. sahdman said on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:43 pm:
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    New Dawn,
    Brian Leeper is the Republican nominee for the city council of Manassas Park.

  56. sahdman said on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:44 pm:
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    I was a little late hitting the submit button.

  57. manassascityresident said on 21 Jul 2008 at 10:48 pm:
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    Good luck, Brian!

  58. SLB said on 22 Jul 2008 at 7:26 am:
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/21/AR2008072102393.html?wpisrc=newsletter

    Everyone read this already?

  59. Beck said on 22 Jul 2008 at 8:03 am:
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    Be sure to read the comments to the Post editorial. They nail it.

  60. CitizenofManassas said on 22 Jul 2008 at 8:41 am:
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    Ya, I read the post editorial, and as usual while the Post opines about hate, they are in fact the ones spreading the hate and bigotry. I can’t believe they support child rapists, but then again they are Democrats and liberals, so it should not be that surprising.

    Also, I love how they point out the criminals are now having to get help from other local Governments. Hello, is that not one of the very reasons why PW wanted to crack down on the criminals? Once again the COMPOST shows that sharp liberal brain power.

  61. CitizenofManassas said on 22 Jul 2008 at 8:46 am:
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    Wow, the COMPOST is getting grilled on their comment page. Ha ha ha.

  62. Emma said on 22 Jul 2008 at 10:01 am:
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    Actually, I think the Post is doing a FABULOUS job scaring illegal immigrants away from PWC with its own rhetoric. They’re doing a better job of spreading fear than the Resolution ever could have done, assuming the affects of the Resolution are as dire as they say they are. Talk about creating perceptions.

  63. Marcie Harris said on 22 Jul 2008 at 10:36 am:
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    Brian, good luck to you….I had no idea you were running for office. I’m not
    a resident of MP, but I hope you win!
    Emma, I believe you are right in your comment re the Post. The article
    is helping in our cause.
    New Dawn, welcome to PWC. Be sure to let your friends know they are
    welcome here, also….IF they are legal and are willing to maintain their
    lawns and keep the storm doors closed and drapes/curtains UNknoted.

  64. New Dawn said on 22 Jul 2008 at 10:55 am:
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    Marcie Harris, Thank you. I was very surprised that the county looked as good as it did. I thought it was going to be run down and filled with illegals. I actually have not seen that. I’m not sure what it was like before the resolution, but I am impressed with the area I live in, which is the Manassas area of PWC.

  65. DPortM said on 22 Jul 2008 at 11:11 am:
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    New Dawn,

    I also welcome you to PWC. It has been my home most of my life. It you live in Sudley or Westgate, we have active Neighborhood Watches in those areas and we would welcome new members.

    I am so proud of our Supervisors (Principi not included) to roll up the welcome mat for the illegal aliens and take action. We are a role model for the country. In order to make any headway regarding illegal immigration, it must begin at the local level due to the failure of the federal government.

  66. John Light said on 22 Jul 2008 at 12:22 pm:
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    I say we ask the BOS to buy one-way tickets for all the illegals to San Francisco!!!

  67. Marcie Harris said on 22 Jul 2008 at 12:23 pm:
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    New Dawn, you are very fortunate to have settled in a Manassas area
    which doesn’t show the destruction done by the Latino presence (okay,
    so I am a bigot….get over it all you apologists). If you drive down
    Lomond Dr, you will see what I mean. That’s where you will find the
    gang graffiti being mentioned on this thread as well as the trash in yards
    and on the curbs, not to mention the tall grass, etc.
    The resolution hasn’t helped my neighborhood as yet, for there are still
    flop houses, an over-abundance of work vans w/ladders, large gatherings
    partying with their blaring music, etc. Still, I suppose my neighborhood is
    in better shape than some.
    I must agree with DPortM. I too am very proud of the guttsy supervisors
    who have taken a stand on our behalf. C Stewart is most definitely one
    of my heros, as is Greg and HSM members.

  68. Rick Bentley said on 22 Jul 2008 at 12:50 pm:
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    Like Emma says - I welcome the Post propogating the idea that we are not the place for illegals to be. If it means a few less elitist liberals choose to live here as well, okay I’ll accept that.

    So, who owns that patch of property across from the Coverstone 7-11 that the day laborers are now lounging on?

  69. me-n-u said on 22 Jul 2008 at 12:53 pm:
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    Marcie Harris, HSM has a meeting on July 30th. It’s a good place to meet people that may be able to help you clean up your neighborhood.

  70. Johnson said on 22 Jul 2008 at 1:03 pm:
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    The ComPost is in full whine mode, so all of us should consider the resolutions a sucess!

  71. jfk said on 22 Jul 2008 at 1:32 pm:
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    Be sure to leave a comment for the Post-don’t just read them!!

  72. Mando said on 22 Jul 2008 at 2:48 pm:
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    @Brian Leeper

    Kudos to you and your friend. These are the success stories that are conveniently overlooked by the propaganda pushers.

    @Marcie Harris

    I understand your pain, but being biggoted does nothing to further our cause and is counterproductive. Being latino does not equal being an illegal alien or gang banger just as being pro-resolution does not equal being a racist redneck.

    The graffiti on the flat branch bridge is still there btw.

  73. Citizen 12 said on 22 Jul 2008 at 3:24 pm:
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    I know it’s fromFriday but…..

    WASHINGTON–A proposal that would allow people to create apartments in their Arlington County homes generated heated debate today.

    And after hours of arguments and counter-arguments, the County Board voted four-to-one to approve the measure, which applies to single-family homes.

    Supporters say it would create more affordable places for people to live. But critics worry about tenants creating noise and causing parking problems.

    Local leaders in northern Virginia have been cracking down on overcrowded houses. Some see the crackdown as an effort to target illegal immigrants.

    http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=25&sid=1443377

    **********************************************************

    What a crock.

    It is surprising to my why the residents of Arlington county allow a board of 5 people to dictate such a change. To undermine the value of the single family residential community in this way is a travesty.

    I would hope to see angry mob’s with torches and pitchforks on the 11 o’clock news.

  74. Rick Bentley said on 22 Jul 2008 at 4:05 pm:
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    Well things have to get bad before Arlington will change.

  75. Mando said on 22 Jul 2008 at 4:07 pm:
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    “What a crock.

    It is surprising to my why the residents of Arlington county allow a board of 5 people to dictate such a change. To undermine the value of the single family residential community in this way is a travesty.

    I would hope to see angry mob’s with torches and pitchforks on the 11 o’clock news.”

    It’s not a crock. It’s hypocracy. It’s all good until the illegal aliens invade their neighborhoods. I say reap what you sew.

  76. Marcie Harris said on 22 Jul 2008 at 4:30 pm:
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    Mando, you are absolutely correct (”It’s all good until the illegal aliens invade
    their neighborhoods”)…..ergo, my bias!

  77. Mando said on 22 Jul 2008 at 5:14 pm:
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    Marcie, but there’s a huge difference between a traditional hispanic family moving in next door and a crooked investor buying the house, adding 2,000 square feet to it, and turning it into a flop-house for transient illegal aliens.

    The traditional hispanic family has an investment in their house and their community. Doesn’t matter that they’re hispanic.

  78. CityResident said on 22 Jul 2008 at 5:17 pm:
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    Let’s hope Arlington ends up with some real cheap “apartments” and that many of the illegals in PWC find out about them and go there!

  79. jfk said on 22 Jul 2008 at 5:19 pm:
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    Marcie, Mando is right. I don’t know if you were conscious of what you implied, but I don’t think you beleive that all Hispanic families behave in a negative manner.

  80. Marcie Harris said on 22 Jul 2008 at 5:29 pm:
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    Well, Mando and jfk…unfortunately, I haven’t had the pleasure of
    the experience of having a “traditional hispanic family” move into
    my neighborhood (as of this date). Travel along Liberia Ave (after
    Lomond) and look at the eye-sore created by a “traditional hispanic
    family” where they have turned the entire front yard into a stone
    barrio.

  81. A Reader said on 22 Jul 2008 at 6:23 pm:
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    I am very concerned about what will happen if Obama’s universal health care comes to be. If you think we have problems now just imagine the drawing card that would be. What do you think the increase in illegal immigration would be with that benefit available to them.

  82. monticup said on 22 Jul 2008 at 7:00 pm:
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    The illegals ALREADY get free health care. And education. And food stamps. Etc.

  83. monticup said on 22 Jul 2008 at 7:10 pm:
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    Mando and jfk: I sympathize with Marcie. The problem is that is difficult to find a traditional Hispanic family nowadays. They often aid and abet the illegals. It can get all blended together, legal and illegal, which is the way they want it–confusing for the authorities.

  84. Anonymous said on 22 Jul 2008 at 10:24 pm:
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    Those of you who also blog on the anti site may want to be cautious of your privacy. Check this out:

    Pedro Cortiz, 22. July 2008, 18:27
    You racist gringos of Manassas - you deserve being called for what you are! You will see the results when we show our numbers and overcome you! We will make sure everyone knows who you are and the place you live in is trying to force us out! We shall overcome!

    VIVA LA RAZA!!!

    Admin’s Note: This message comes from Leaving Point of Woods, Anon, Mayor of Munchkinland. IPAddress = 67.159.44.138. This has been a very popular tactic employed by those from the anti-immigrant side by flaming the tensions. It’s counter-productive to finding any solutions and proves some will go to any lengths to twist things for their own purpose.

    This is a new low even for these bleeding hearts.

  85. A Reader said on 22 Jul 2008 at 11:08 pm:
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    Monticup
    I agree with you 100%, but I think it will be EVEN worse if they get in on the healthcare benefit.

  86. Anonymous said on 23 Jul 2008 at 12:26 am:
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    With all these graffiti taggings around PWC, looks like the Rule of Law Resolution has been a failure.

  87. Dolph said on 23 Jul 2008 at 12:53 am:
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    Marcie Harris,

    Those people have lived on Liberia for 15-20 years. I don’t think it is an atrocity. It might not be my taste but it is neat and maintained. We don’t all share the same taste.

  88. Anonymous said on 23 Jul 2008 at 9:12 am:
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    Probably now that IP address will be inundated with all kinds of denial of service attacks, thanks to the anti site publicly putting out an IP address of someone on their website.

  89. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 23 Jul 2008 at 9:49 am:
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    Anonymous,

    What makes you think they even think about the consequences of their actions? They have no idea what it is to put an IP address out there like that. I agree a DOS attack will probably go to it. The problem is, they do not realize that most ISP’s change the IP address of their users, unless they have static IP addresses, routinely, so the user may use that one today, but tomorrow it will belong to another user of the ISP.

    No thought of the consequences of their actions.

    No thought of the consequences of allowing 12M people to be absorbed into the population.

    No thought of the consequences of Americans unable to find work.

    No thought of the consequences of leaving the border open for more to come in as soon as they hear there will be amnesty for those here.

  90. CitizenofManassas said on 23 Jul 2008 at 9:51 am:
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    Hey Dolph,

    Why don’t you go back to other threads and answer the questions? Seems that you and the COMPOST have the same opionion.

  91. CityResident said on 23 Jul 2008 at 10:07 am:
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    Have to agree with Dolph about the house on Liberia. I have lived near there for 20 years and while it is unusual what they did in their front yard, it is mantained well and at least not a dump, or overgrown with high grass. It is a whole lot better than some of the illegal boarding houses that are nowhere near as well mantained, and have transient residents and overcrowding. At least that property is stable and isn’t contributing to overcrowding.

  92. Anonymous said on 23 Jul 2008 at 10:08 am:
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    If a denial of service attack results from the posting of that IP address on the anti site - maybe the owner’s of that IP will be able to sue the anti site - now that would be most interesting!

  93. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 23 Jul 2008 at 12:03 pm:
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    Anonymous,

    That would be interesting. If not going through the litigation route, charging the owner of the blog with the direct cost of the DOS attack and the associated costs of future prevention as well.

  94. Anonymous said on 23 Jul 2008 at 1:07 pm:
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    The three taggings left on Flat Branch Bridge last Wednesday night have now been removed. Thanks to PWPD, Clean Community Council, and VDOT for the removal.

  95. Mando said on 23 Jul 2008 at 4:17 pm:
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    That is VERY good news!

  96. IllegalisILLEGAL said on 23 Jul 2008 at 7:29 pm:
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    But let someone else try to out someone who has vile things and admin takes the name out. Now thats fair. Does anyone know who the blank name is?

    Loudoun, 22. July 2008, 17:19
    I would be proud to look in the mirror every day if I was Maureen. She displays tireless devotion to the cause of improving our community, protecting the sovereignty of our great nation, making our community safer, protecting American workers and legal residents, and helping to lessen the load of taxes we have to pay for the social services of illegal aliens.

    Maureen, I am honored to know you and I truly appreciate all of your efforts!

    Then there’s Cat Scratch Fever a/k/a Moon Howler a/k/a Dolph, who defames, insults, and gossips about people who disagree with her, while hiding behind several monikers. So,_________ how do you look in the mirror every day?

    Note: I removed an identifying name for an individual who to my knowledge has not publicly been identified. I have no desire in ‘outing’ anybody, and I’m not in the business of validating these accusations, so it’s probably best to avoid this behavior.

  97. Anonymous said on 23 Jul 2008 at 7:35 pm:
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    Next you know they’ll be putting up the full name, address, or phone number of someone they disagree with if they can figure it out. They probably would have done it in this case (or still might) but so far all they managed to do was post the IP address which would be right in the logs for their web server.

    When they say they have no desire in outing anybody, apparently that’s only for people they agree with.

    They obviously DO want to out people they disagree with.

  98. yrd said on 23 Jul 2008 at 7:43 pm:
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    Interesting, on 7/22 they don’t want to out the person who they agree with, but the very following day they out someone who they disagree with - who apparently has been posting on their site for a very long time. It is interesting the two events are only one day apart - coincidence?

  99. yrd said on 23 Jul 2008 at 7:46 pm:
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    Well, they really blew it - there aren’t many blogs that would purposely post an IP address of someone who posts there. It will cause a lot of people to think twice before posting there - especially ones who disagree with them. That’s what they want anyway - they go out of their way to label people who disagree with them all sorts of things, and continually claim all of those people are “anti-immigration” instead of anti-ILLEGAL-immigration - big difference.

  100. Marcie Harris said on 23 Jul 2008 at 7:51 pm:
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    Dolph (at 12:53) Just what do you mean, ‘THOSE PEOPLE”????
    I can’t see what the number of years they’ve lived there has to do
    with their showing so little respect for their neighbors. It’s just another
    example of shoving their culture down our throats. Picture this:
    A Greek family moves down the street and erects a parthenon in the
    front yard; not to be out-done, the Japanese family next door builds a
    huge pagoda where the lawn used to be, and wait…..the folks from Holland
    are putting up a very large windmill and the Egyptian family down the
    street are piling huge stones for the pyramids which will be a constant
    reminder of the beloved land they left behind. Frivolous speculation?
    Perhaps.

    CityResident, that property may be stable in your point of view, but have
    you noticed the number of foreclosures near that property? I wonder if
    it’s because the owners weren’t able to sell their homes because of the
    barrio? I just can’t imagine trying to sell a house in that neighborhood.

  101. allycat said on 23 Jul 2008 at 8:13 pm:
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    yrd said on 23 Jul 2008 at 7:43 pm:

    BINGO! You are correct. They only “out” the people they disagree with.

    The Anti blog claims to want discussion, but anyone having a different point of view, hence stimulating discussion, is ridiculed, called names, etc.
    They are a joke! There’s no discussion - there’s only back slapping for whoever can be the nastiest towards those who doesn’t agree with them.

    PATHETIC!

  102. allycat said on 23 Jul 2008 at 8:14 pm:
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    corr: doesn’t should be “don’t”

  103. CityResident said on 23 Jul 2008 at 8:53 pm:
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    Many of the foreclosures in that area are former flophouses - good riddance. Some of these were actually bought at the height of the housing market, and probably now those owners owe more on the houses than they are worth. I don’t think it has anything to do with that particularly property. And there’s no greater a number of foreclosures right near that property than anywhere else in the area. However, the continued presence of illegals and flophouses in the area certainly aren’t helping things.

  104. New Dawn said on 23 Jul 2008 at 10:02 pm:
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    That area does seem to be more run down than other area’s I’ve seen.
    I just checked out the site you all have been talking about. Just skimmed through it. There only seems to be six or seven people who are posting over there. Anyone else see the same?

  105. ateacher said on 23 Jul 2008 at 10:16 pm:
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    Ill is Ill,
    Of course people here know the person referred to in Loudouns letter. Those on anti-bvbl know the person as well. The point is none of us has the desire or reason to out the person. If admin on anti-bvbl chose to secure the animinity of said person than so be it. Admin on this site also also protects those who blog here..including you and I.

  106. allycat said on 23 Jul 2008 at 10:26 pm:
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    New Dawn,
    Absolutely. It’s the same ole posters. About seven of them. That’s it. A couple of the posters use 2 or 3 different names. They run everyone else off with their childish rantings.
    Again, I say, pathetic.

  107. Not Bill Howell said on 24 Jul 2008 at 2:47 am:
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    McCain’s national director of Hispanic outreach Juan Hernandez is a shadowy figure being kept under wraps from the media, for good reason. This from the Newsweek just out (p. 28):

    “The blonde Mexican-American (with dual citizenship) was senior official in the government of Mexican President Vicente Fox from 2000 to 2002. His main responsibility at that time was to advocate for undocumented Mexican immigrants — to help them get access to eduction and health services, and then citizenship.”

    This is a gift-wrapped nuclear warhead for use against Mac, but the Obama camp (of course) won’t touch it. It is imperative we hit on this at every opportunity:

    McCain’s representative to the Hispanic community is a man who was — until six years ago — the Mexican government official in charge of facilitating illegal immigration! What does that say about what a McCain Administration will do about illegal aliens? What does that say about his promise to secure our border?

    Most voters very much want aggressive action taken against illegal immigration, but the influential patrons of both McCain and Obama do not. Clearly, Bob Barr is the only presidential candidate who will secure our borders and enforce the law.

  108. freedom said on 24 Jul 2008 at 6:45 am:
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    Not Bill Howell said, “…Clearly, Bob Barr is the only presidential candidate who will secure our borders and enforce the law.”

    I wish it were that simple, NBH, but as a “candidate,” he can’t do squat. Further, unfortunate though it may be, his chances of rising from candidacy to the Presidency are….you guessed it, “squat.”

    So, what’s your next idea?

  109. CitizenofManassas said on 24 Jul 2008 at 7:38 am:
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    Not Bill,

    The reason why Obama will not call out John on Juan, is because he supports amnesty as well. The difference is that with the Dems in control of both Congress and the WH, amnesty passes. With McCain in the WH, he faces the same issues as Bush does, the GOP in Congress is not going to support Amnesty.

  110. allycat said on 24 Jul 2008 at 8:18 am:
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    anon said on 22 Jul 2008 at 2:02 pm:
    Another Hispanic stabbing last night, the 3rd in a week (that I know of) in Manassas, yet no mention in the paper. Manassas PD has been busy.

    This was on another thread and I brought it over here. Has anyone heard about this?

  111. k.o'toole said on 24 Jul 2008 at 11:13 am:
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    allycat, Do you think the following link pertaining to a wife in custody after finding her husband stabbed to death on June 29 is the same story? It’s close to Coverstone.
    http://www.nbc4.com/news/16747869/detail.html

  112. allycat said on 24 Jul 2008 at 11:24 am:
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    It could be. I hadn’t heard about the three stabbings. Very scary. The link could very well be the stabbing that anon was referring to.

  113. IllegalisILLEGAL said on 24 Jul 2008 at 12:45 pm:
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    k.o’toole, The date of the story you’re referring to is dated June 30, 2008. (I think) So I wouldn’t presume that they are the same.

  114. DPortM said on 24 Jul 2008 at 1:24 pm:
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    Sorry for double posting:

    ALERT/ALERT/ALERT - FREE FAX

    You can find this fax by proceeding to
    http://www.numbersusa.com/faxes?ID=10337

    Sen. Robert Menendez of New Jersey has put a hold on the reauthorization of the E-Verify program. As you know, E-Verify allows employers to determine the legality of their potential new hire. This program is up for reauthorization and many anti-American worker congressmen have been trying to hold the bill up.

    Sen. Menendez has placed a hold on the bill and refuses to release the hold until the Congress agrees to increase the number of work-based visas. It is absolutely appalling that a United States Senator would do this to American workers. Not only is he holding up a program that prevents illegal aliens from finding work (and thereby allowing Americans to fill jobs), he is holding it hostage for more skilled worker visas (which keep educated Americans out of a job).

    Send your Democratic U.S. Senator as fax and urge him/her to keep Sen. Menendez in line. Remind him/her that this is probably not the message that the Democratic party wants to send heading into the November elections.

  115. Citizen 12 said on 24 Jul 2008 at 1:48 pm:
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    Why is it that most of the talk about the “broken system” comes form the very people who broke it?

    Once again, an elected politician with a need to spend more money re-inventing the wheel. Bob and his cohorts want us to bend the rules helping a select group get around existing laws.

    _ …..while also providing a legitimate way for the estimated 12 million undocumented workers to come out of the shadows and earn United States citizenship. These undocumented workers must pass a series of strict and critical benchmarks, such as paying fines, learning English, and waiting at the back of the citizenship line, behind those who have pursued legal means of attaining citizenship.

    http://menendez.senate.gov/issues/brokensystem.cfm

    Bob, we already have a legitimate system, when followed, it works. They just need to go home and start over.

    Perhaps Bob could relocate south of the border and help them on that end.

  116. Johnson said on 24 Jul 2008 at 3:28 pm:
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/23/AR2008072303339.html

    The comPost is especially whiny today. Poor Chirf Deane! Liberals REALLY hate it when conservative ideas and values prevail and solve problems.

  117. Johnson said on 24 Jul 2008 at 3:29 pm:
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    With all due respect, “Chief”, not “Chirf”.

  118. Johnson said on 24 Jul 2008 at 3:34 pm:
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    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/citizens-set-demonstrate-postville-favor/story.aspx?guid=%7BD9E7D32E-AAEE-4F5C-A72B-F15752E89912%7D&dist=hppr

    Not a bad idea.

  119. CitizenofManassas said on 24 Jul 2008 at 9:56 pm:
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    I’m not sure if this has been linked before, but…..

    http://www.victimsofillegalaliens.com/index.php

  120. manassascityresident said on 24 Jul 2008 at 10:56 pm:
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    COM -
    Thanks for that link - what an eye opener - and totally unacceptable!

  121. CitizenofManassas said on 24 Jul 2008 at 11:56 pm:
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    You are welcome. It is unacceptable. We should send that link and pictures to those elected officials who think amnesty is a good thing.

  122. Johnson said on 25 Jul 2008 at 3:52 pm:
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/24/AR2008072403841.html

    I wonder if Ike has been “enlightened”…

  123. Johnson said on 25 Jul 2008 at 4:44 pm:
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    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-hatecrime25-2008jul25,0,7191743.story?track=rss

    And people have accused ME of being a racist.

  124. Citizen 12 said on 25 Jul 2008 at 5:47 pm:
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    Johnson said on 25 Jul 2008 at 3:52 pm:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/24/AR2008072403841.html

    Man O’ Man. 7 mill in assetts and 1.5 mill in cash just sitting around the home? All from slinging yard bird?

    Yea, right.

  125. legal2 said on 26 Jul 2008 at 7:43 am:
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    I’m waiting to hear when the assets of Fredy Lopez of Manassas fame will forfeit his assets - his businesses are still open.

  126. Anonymous said on 27 Jul 2008 at 12:00 am:
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    legal2 said on 26 Jul 2008 at 7:43 am:
    I’m waiting to hear when the assets of Fredy Lopez of Manassas fame will forfeit his assets - his businesses are still open.

    He was only doing the the work Americans refuse to do. He was just giving back to the country that took care of him and allowed him to start a “business.” We all got the “business” from his escapades!

  127. rebelreggie said on 27 Jul 2008 at 5:11 pm:
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    POSTVILLE, IOWA - When federal immigration agents raided the kosher meatpacking plant here in May and rounded up 389 illegal immigrants, they found more than 20 underage workers, some as young as 13.
    Now those young immigrants have begun to tell investigators about their jobs. Some said they worked shifts of 12 hours or more, wielding razor-edged knives and saws to slice freshly killed beef. Some worked through the night, sometimes six nights a week.

    One, a Guatemalan named Elmer L. who said he was 16 when he started working on the plant’s killing floors, said he worked 17-hour shifts, six days a week. In an affidavit, he said he was constantly tired and did not have time to do anything but work and sleep. “I was very sad,” he said, “and I felt like I was a slave.”

    At first, labor officials said the raid had disrupted federal and state investigations already under way at Agriprocessors Inc., the nation’s largest kosher plant. The raid has drawn criticism for what some see as harsh tactics against the immigrants, with little action taken against their employers.

    But in the aftermath of the arrests, labor investigators have reaped a bounty of new evidence from the testimony of illegal immigrants, teenagers and adults, who were caught in the raid. In formal declarations, immigrants have described pervasive labor violations at the plant, testimony that could result in criminal charges for Agriprocessors executives, labor law experts said.

    Out of work and facing deportation proceedings, many of the immigrants say they now have nothing to lose in speaking up about the conditions in the plant. They have told investigators that they were routinely put to work without safety training and were forced to work long shifts without overtime or rest time. Underage workers said their bosses knew how young they were.

    Because of the dangers of the work, it is illegal in Iowa for a company to employ anyone under 18 on the floor of a meatpacking plant.

    In a statement, Agriprocessors said it did not employ workers under 18 and would fire any underage worker found to have presented false documents to obtain work.

    To investigate the child labor accusations, the federal Labor Department has joined with the Iowa Division of Labor Services in cooperation with the state attorney general’s office, officials for the three agencies said.

    Sonia Parras Konrad, an immigration lawyer in private practice in Des Moines, is representing many of the young workers. She said she had so far identified 27 workers under 18 who were employed in the packing areas of the plant, most of them illegal immigrants from Guatemala, including some who were not arrested in the raid.

    ‘Goofy’ teenagers

    “Some of these boys don’t even shave,” Parras Konrad said. “They’re goofy. They’re teenagers.”

    At a meeting Saturday in Postville, three members of the House Hispanic Caucus — including its chairman, Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, D-Ill. — heard seven immigrant minors describe working in the Agriprocessors plant.

    Iowa labor officials said they rarely encounter child labor cases even though the state has many meatpacking plants.

    “We don’t normally have many underage folks working in our state,” said Gail Sheridan-Lucht, a lawyer for the state labor department, who said she could not comment specifically on the Agriprocessors investigation.

    Other investigations are also under way. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is examining accusations of sexual harassment of women at the plant. Lawyers for the immigrants are preparing a suit under the federal Fair Labor Standards Act for wage and hour violations.

    Federal justice and immigration officials, speaking Thursday at a hearing in Washington of the House Judiciary immigration subcommittee, said their investigations were continuing. A federal grand jury in Cedar Rapids is hearing evidence about Agriprocessors.

    A spokesman for Agriprocessors, Menachem Lubinsky, said the company could not comment on an active investigation.

    “The company has two objectives in mind: to restore its production to meet the demands of the kosher food market and to be in full compliance with all local, state and federal laws,” Lubinsky said. Reports of labor violations at the plant “remain allegations only, that no agency has charged the company with,” he said.

    Most of the young immigrants were hired at Agriprocessors after they presented false Social Security cards or other documents saying they were older than they were.

    Agriprocessors executives said they had begun an overhaul of the company’s hiring and labor practices, starting with hiring a compliance officer, James G. Martin, a former U.S. attorney in Missouri.

  128. Brian Leeper said on 1 Aug 2008 at 1:24 am:
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    An update: My friend closed on the house on Tuesday.

    Since then, we’ve been working on correcting some of the major problems with this house..plumbing and electrical.

    One of the biggest problems was that the ground wire was electrically live on an entire string of outlets. I discovered this by accident when I touched both the end of the cable TV wire and the threaded “F” connector on a surge protector that was plugged in and got shocked.

    I checked and sure enough the ground wire had 120V on it!

    My first thought was an incorrect splice but we checked all of the junction boxes and everything looked fine.

    Then we opened the breaker panel and I noticed that the ground wire for that circuit was touching the black insulated hot wire, and ended there. The ground wire had burned in half, apparently because the insulation on the hot wire had melted allowing the ground wire to make contact with it.

    Interestingly…the other half of the ground wire was nowhere near where it had burned through so someone had been in this breaker box after this happened and moved the ground wire.

    What caused this? Someone put two 14AWG wires on a 30-amp breaker. It should have been two 14AWG wires on two 15 amp breakers. There is room in the breaker box for it.

    This allowed someone to overload the circuit, causing the hot wire to overheat, and then it shorted out against the ground wire and instead of the breaker tripping the ground wire just burned through.

    What’s ironic about this is that one of the major reasons for doing away with fuses is that people could overload circuits by putting larger fuses in.

    Now people are just putting larger breakers in and overloading circuits that way.

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