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	<title>Comments on: Bill Clinton&#8217;s Legacy Comes A Haunting</title>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72223</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72223</guid>
		<description>- Patriots that truly love their country and respect
  the office of the President can only be  disgusted
  with the failed tenure of Bush II in that high office.

  - "Regime change" is a neocon concept - not mine.
  Putin is in the driver's seat in Georgia and Bush II
  helped to put him there with many innocent people
  being run over even is we blog.

 - The next President will need to walk far softer
  and get a much larger stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Patriots that truly love their country and respect<br />
  the office of the President can only be  disgusted<br />
  with the failed tenure of Bush II in that high office.</p>
<p>  - &#8220;Regime change&#8221; is a neocon concept - not mine.<br />
  Putin is in the driver&#8217;s seat in Georgia and Bush II<br />
  helped to put him there with many innocent people<br />
  being run over even is we blog.</p>
<p> - The next President will need to walk far softer<br />
  and get a much larger stick.</p>
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		<title>By: Che'</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72222</link>
		<dc:creator>Che'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72222</guid>
		<description>So now you are promoting regime change in Russia???
How do you propose to accomplish that?

Referring to a sitting president as a "twerp" really tells a lot about your feelings toward our country and the office of the president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now you are promoting regime change in Russia???<br />
How do you propose to accomplish that?</p>
<p>Referring to a sitting president as a &#8220;twerp&#8221; really tells a lot about your feelings toward our country and the office of the president.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72208</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcie Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72208</guid>
		<description>Big Dog, I just love you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Dog, I just love you!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72204</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72204</guid>
		<description>Che' - the "truce in Georgia," brokered in part by 
 Condi' Rice, means the Russians and their gangster
 pals stay in place to rape, murder and steal as long
 as they like.   Still, we need to get a carrier into the 
 Black Sea ASAP (but not to close to conflict because
 of the Putin blockade) so your little twerp Bush II
 can prance around the deck in a flight jacket under
 a "Mission Accomplished" sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Che&#8217; - the &#8220;truce in Georgia,&#8221; brokered in part by<br />
 Condi&#8217; Rice, means the Russians and their gangster<br />
 pals stay in place to rape, murder and steal as long<br />
 as they like.   Still, we need to get a carrier into the<br />
 Black Sea ASAP (but not to close to conflict because<br />
 of the Putin blockade) so your little twerp Bush II<br />
 can prance around the deck in a flight jacket under<br />
 a &#8220;Mission Accomplished&#8221; sign.</p>
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		<title>By: Che'</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72203</link>
		<dc:creator>Che'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72203</guid>
		<description>You are wrong.  Barking up the wrong tree, as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are wrong.  Barking up the wrong tree, as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72195</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72195</guid>
		<description>Marcie,

You have a point about there being no large deployments while Clinton was in the White House, I'll give you that.  But since the mid '70's we have been an all volunteer armed services.  Nobody was forced to join.  Being in the military means that you could be deployed and sent to nasty places.  If you married a military person you would have to take that into consideration.  We were all volunteers and the services are still that way.  I agree with 'Che that if we didn't have our forces in the middle east that there would have been many more attacks on our soil.

Clinton also cut our intel services to shreds, specifically the HUMINT part of it which might have ferretted out the 9/11 attack before it happened, might not have, we'll never know because the "slickster" cut many intel jobs so he could balance the budget.

But enough about Clinton, what's done is done.  My vote is for Lou Dobbs for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcie,</p>
<p>You have a point about there being no large deployments while Clinton was in the White House, I&#8217;ll give you that.  But since the mid &#8217;70&#8217;s we have been an all volunteer armed services.  Nobody was forced to join.  Being in the military means that you could be deployed and sent to nasty places.  If you married a military person you would have to take that into consideration.  We were all volunteers and the services are still that way.  I agree with &#8216;Che that if we didn&#8217;t have our forces in the middle east that there would have been many more attacks on our soil.</p>
<p>Clinton also cut our intel services to shreds, specifically the HUMINT part of it which might have ferretted out the 9/11 attack before it happened, might not have, we&#8217;ll never know because the &#8220;slickster&#8221; cut many intel jobs so he could balance the budget.</p>
<p>But enough about Clinton, what&#8217;s done is done.  My vote is for Lou Dobbs for President.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72185</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72185</guid>
		<description>Che'
        Sorry you have such a distorted knowledge of
American history. Clinton, with all his many flaws,
was twice the President that W has been (of course
neither holds a candle to Reagan, but that is another story).
Note that McCain has treated Bushie II like toxic waste.
       Glad to see W stop patting up the female beach
volleyball players and start paying some attention to the
Georgian crisis - fear this may  blow up and not
sure how Putin or Bush will twist out of it.  Am
reminded of the first chapters in Barbara Tuchman's 
book on WWI - "The Guns of August". Hope I'm wrong
and our nation won't have more reasons to be haunted
by the legacy  of Bush  II.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Che&#8217;<br />
        Sorry you have such a distorted knowledge of<br />
American history. Clinton, with all his many flaws,<br />
was twice the President that W has been (of course<br />
neither holds a candle to Reagan, but that is another story).<br />
Note that McCain has treated Bushie II like toxic waste.<br />
       Glad to see W stop patting up the female beach<br />
volleyball players and start paying some attention to the<br />
Georgian crisis - fear this may  blow up and not<br />
sure how Putin or Bush will twist out of it.  Am<br />
reminded of the first chapters in Barbara Tuchman&#8217;s<br />
book on WWI - &#8220;The Guns of August&#8221;. Hope I&#8217;m wrong<br />
and our nation won&#8217;t have more reasons to be haunted<br />
by the legacy  of Bush  II.</p>
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		<title>By: Che'</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72181</link>
		<dc:creator>Che'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72181</guid>
		<description>Big Dog, I'm going to have to be the one to hit you on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.  You keep making a mess on the BVBL rug.

 Clinton couldn't handle the terrorist attacks that happened on his watch; what do you think he would have done if he had to deal with September 11th?  The I-95 corridor from DC to Boston would be clicking on the Geiger counter while he was on Air Force One, introducing another teenage intern into the Mile High Club.

Taliban resurgence?  They went from running a country to fighting out of caves!  Clinton's only contribution towards getting rid of the Taliban was making jokes about them at the National Press Club dinner.  Clinton couldn't get Bin Laden either, even though he "came close" a couple of times.  So I guess OSB has really been on the loose for 15 years.

Obama looked into Putin's eyes and said " surf's up dude".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Dog, I&#8217;m going to have to be the one to hit you on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.  You keep making a mess on the BVBL rug.</p>
<p> Clinton couldn&#8217;t handle the terrorist attacks that happened on his watch; what do you think he would have done if he had to deal with September 11th?  The I-95 corridor from DC to Boston would be clicking on the Geiger counter while he was on Air Force One, introducing another teenage intern into the Mile High Club.</p>
<p>Taliban resurgence?  They went from running a country to fighting out of caves!  Clinton&#8217;s only contribution towards getting rid of the Taliban was making jokes about them at the National Press Club dinner.  Clinton couldn&#8217;t get Bin Laden either, even though he &#8220;came close&#8221; a couple of times.  So I guess OSB has really been on the loose for 15 years.</p>
<p>Obama looked into Putin&#8217;s eyes and said &#8221; surf&#8217;s up dude&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72180</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72180</guid>
		<description>- Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw the "soul of
   a good man".

 - McCain looked into the same eyes and saw "KGB".

   Mark one down for Little John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Bush looked into Putin&#8217;s eyes and saw the &#8220;soul of<br />
   a good man&#8221;.</p>
<p> - McCain looked into the same eyes and saw &#8220;KGB&#8221;.</p>
<p>   Mark one down for Little John.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72179</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcie Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72179</guid>
		<description>Big Dog, I cannot argue with you on that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Dog, I cannot argue with you on that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72173</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72173</guid>
		<description>- The Republicans are declaring an Obama vote will
   mean a second Carter term.  Scream. 

- The Democrats respond that a McCain vote will
   mean a third term for Bush II. Scream. Scream!

-  Bin Laden still free - 9/11 unavenged after
   nearly seven years,  the original naive politized "plans"
   for  Iraq - thousands more   Americans dead and
   billions spent, the Taliban resurgence, the total
   failure "Good job, Brownie" after Katrina, etc.

- Even a flawed sleazer like Clinton looks good compared
  to the failed US presidency of the past eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- The Republicans are declaring an Obama vote will<br />
   mean a second Carter term.  Scream. </p>
<p>- The Democrats respond that a McCain vote will<br />
   mean a third term for Bush II. Scream. Scream!</p>
<p>-  Bin Laden still free - 9/11 unavenged after<br />
   nearly seven years,  the original naive politized &#8220;plans&#8221;<br />
   for  Iraq - thousands more   Americans dead and<br />
   billions spent, the Taliban resurgence, the total<br />
   failure &#8220;Good job, Brownie&#8221; after Katrina, etc.</p>
<p>- Even a flawed sleazer like Clinton looks good compared<br />
  to the failed US presidency of the past eight years.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72147</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcie Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72147</guid>
		<description>Why, in God's name, are we dwelling on Bill Clinton?  We should, instead be
focused on keeping the Great Allah Obama from being our next president!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, in God&#8217;s name, are we dwelling on Bill Clinton?  We should, instead be<br />
focused on keeping the Great Allah Obama from being our next president!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72146</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72146</guid>
		<description>Marcie,
    You mean that economy where if you knew how to turn on a computer you got a $100k a year job no questions asked?  You mean the one where investors lost buttloads due to a tech bubble?  If you disagree, I'd be happy to sell you my worldcom and pets.com stock.  To believe the late 90's economy was real, you would have to buy all my late 90's tech stock.  There is no denying the tech bubble that burst as Clinton was leaving.  I don't blame Clinton for much, but to give him credit for a fake economy (just like the real estate bubble created a fake 'good economy 3 years ago) is disingenuous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcie,<br />
    You mean that economy where if you knew how to turn on a computer you got a $100k a year job no questions asked?  You mean the one where investors lost buttloads due to a tech bubble?  If you disagree, I&#8217;d be happy to sell you my worldcom and pets.com stock.  To believe the late 90&#8217;s economy was real, you would have to buy all my late 90&#8217;s tech stock.  There is no denying the tech bubble that burst as Clinton was leaving.  I don&#8217;t blame Clinton for much, but to give him credit for a fake economy (just like the real estate bubble created a fake &#8216;good economy 3 years ago) is disingenuous</p>
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		<title>By: jfk</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72144</link>
		<dc:creator>jfk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72144</guid>
		<description>Marcie Harris said on 14 Aug 2008 at 9:09 am:
“Big Dog, thank you! It seems that Clinton’s little flings before and while
in office negate all the good he did…..according to some. As a Christian,
I was bothered, yes, but then realized what he did behind closed doors
had nothing to do with me or the prosperity I was enjoying.”

Marcie Harris said on 14 Aug 2008 at 6:05 pm: 
I didn’t specifically say that I was “OK with Clinton’s moral transgressions
because I was OK economically”….

Sorry Marcie, but that is EXACTLY what you said.  

The media did aid and abet the Clinton scandals.  From demonizing Ken Starr(sp), failing to investigate the dozens of claims of marital infidelity, the cattle futures scam, the Buddist monk fundraising scandal, and the White House fundraising teas, the media took eight years off.  I get equally nauseated by Chris Matthews as well as the writer who said once that "power crackled" from Clinton's jeans.  

Since you are a military wife, you no doubt remember the two acts of war committed against the US during the Clinton era when the WTC and the USS Cole were both bombed.  Clinton's inaction showed the softness of the US, and set the table for 9/11 and the ensuing deployments that we had to make.  We can debate the war all we want, but everyone needs to think where the next terrorist strike on our soil would have been had the US not gone into Afghanistan and Iraq, taking the fight to the terrorists.  God bless people like your husband, who are willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of us and our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcie Harris said on 14 Aug 2008 at 9:09 am:<br />
“Big Dog, thank you! It seems that Clinton’s little flings before and while<br />
in office negate all the good he did…..according to some. As a Christian,<br />
I was bothered, yes, but then realized what he did behind closed doors<br />
had nothing to do with me or the prosperity I was enjoying.”</p>
<p>Marcie Harris said on 14 Aug 2008 at 6:05 pm:<br />
I didn’t specifically say that I was “OK with Clinton’s moral transgressions<br />
because I was OK economically”….</p>
<p>Sorry Marcie, but that is EXACTLY what you said.  </p>
<p>The media did aid and abet the Clinton scandals.  From demonizing Ken Starr(sp), failing to investigate the dozens of claims of marital infidelity, the cattle futures scam, the Buddist monk fundraising scandal, and the White House fundraising teas, the media took eight years off.  I get equally nauseated by Chris Matthews as well as the writer who said once that &#8220;power crackled&#8221; from Clinton&#8217;s jeans.  </p>
<p>Since you are a military wife, you no doubt remember the two acts of war committed against the US during the Clinton era when the WTC and the USS Cole were both bombed.  Clinton&#8217;s inaction showed the softness of the US, and set the table for 9/11 and the ensuing deployments that we had to make.  We can debate the war all we want, but everyone needs to think where the next terrorist strike on our soil would have been had the US not gone into Afghanistan and Iraq, taking the fight to the terrorists.  God bless people like your husband, who are willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of us and our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72135</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcie Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72135</guid>
		<description>Perhaps so, Dave, but with an exception here.  My husband, a career
military man, does not view Clinton as a "scumbag".  We know many,
many military people who are Clinton fans.  During his 8 years, we had
no deployments of spouses (into the bowels of hell) and if you recall....
we had no body bags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps so, Dave, but with an exception here.  My husband, a career<br />
military man, does not view Clinton as a &#8220;scumbag&#8221;.  We know many,<br />
many military people who are Clinton fans.  During his 8 years, we had<br />
no deployments of spouses (into the bowels of hell) and if you recall&#8230;.<br />
we had no body bags.</p>
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		<title>By: Peregrinus</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72131</link>
		<dc:creator>Peregrinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72131</guid>
		<description>You know what I still, to this day, cannot believe:

People giving former President Bill Clinton credit for the economy of the 90s.  Newsflash, anyone could have been President during the 90s and we still would have had a booming economy.  Between the tax cuts of the 80s and the Republican takeover in '94 and the lessening of government that brought, combined with the take-off of at least three new industries (internet service provision, internet retail, and the computer manufacturing boom those encouraged) oh, and the general feel good time with the end of the Cold War, everything was in perfect place for an economic boom... as well as the economic bubble that the feelings and new tech lead to.  All Clinton had to do was sit back and watch the show.

Likewise, President W. Bush inherited a economy that was in a downturn starting in about '99 because the tech bubble burst, I know first hand, my family is heavily involved in technology and telecom.  Let me repeat, the economic downturn started in 1999, while Clinton was still in office.  People's attitudes were still generally positive though, after all, it was a bubble, bubbles happen, things recover and life is good.  It had started to recover by '01, but then something happened that had never happened before: Wall Street shut down for a week... why?  Nothing significant, just some terrorist attack.

Suddenly the feel good feelings of the 90s were totally gone, which made economic growth that much weaker.  The international stability that soon followed, combined with a sudden massive increase in demand for oil by China and India increased base energy costs.  Considering how many things are affected by oil, this led to a ripple effect on the economy, more than anything else.

Oh, and then the Housing bubble burst, people who had been getting loans, shouldn't have been, and that's still causing problems.  You know something funny though, the rules that should have kept folks from getting those loans in the first place were rescinded back in the, wait for it, 1990s, under Clinton.

Then oil prices continued to rise, and after '06, when the Democrats took control of the House and Senate, to present day, GAS PRICES DOUBLED.  It had taken from about 2001 to 2006 for gas to go from ~$1/gallon to ~$2/gallon, a five year time frame, in less than half that time it doubled again.  Why?  More instability in the world, more demand from other countries, and oh, right, lack of domestic drilling, which is being prevented not by the President, who has lifted the Presidential ban on drilling, but by the Democratically controlled congress.

Let me review: the 90s' economy had nothing to do with Clinton, and the 00s' economy had nothing to do with Bush.  In point of fact, there's about jack, jack, more jack and s**t that a President can do to directly and immediately effect and economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I still, to this day, cannot believe:</p>
<p>People giving former President Bill Clinton credit for the economy of the 90s.  Newsflash, anyone could have been President during the 90s and we still would have had a booming economy.  Between the tax cuts of the 80s and the Republican takeover in &#8216;94 and the lessening of government that brought, combined with the take-off of at least three new industries (internet service provision, internet retail, and the computer manufacturing boom those encouraged) oh, and the general feel good time with the end of the Cold War, everything was in perfect place for an economic boom&#8230; as well as the economic bubble that the feelings and new tech lead to.  All Clinton had to do was sit back and watch the show.</p>
<p>Likewise, President W. Bush inherited a economy that was in a downturn starting in about &#8216;99 because the tech bubble burst, I know first hand, my family is heavily involved in technology and telecom.  Let me repeat, the economic downturn started in 1999, while Clinton was still in office.  People&#8217;s attitudes were still generally positive though, after all, it was a bubble, bubbles happen, things recover and life is good.  It had started to recover by &#8216;01, but then something happened that had never happened before: Wall Street shut down for a week&#8230; why?  Nothing significant, just some terrorist attack.</p>
<p>Suddenly the feel good feelings of the 90s were totally gone, which made economic growth that much weaker.  The international stability that soon followed, combined with a sudden massive increase in demand for oil by China and India increased base energy costs.  Considering how many things are affected by oil, this led to a ripple effect on the economy, more than anything else.</p>
<p>Oh, and then the Housing bubble burst, people who had been getting loans, shouldn&#8217;t have been, and that&#8217;s still causing problems.  You know something funny though, the rules that should have kept folks from getting those loans in the first place were rescinded back in the, wait for it, 1990s, under Clinton.</p>
<p>Then oil prices continued to rise, and after &#8216;06, when the Democrats took control of the House and Senate, to present day, GAS PRICES DOUBLED.  It had taken from about 2001 to 2006 for gas to go from ~$1/gallon to ~$2/gallon, a five year time frame, in less than half that time it doubled again.  Why?  More instability in the world, more demand from other countries, and oh, right, lack of domestic drilling, which is being prevented not by the President, who has lifted the Presidential ban on drilling, but by the Democratically controlled congress.</p>
<p>Let me review: the 90s&#8217; economy had nothing to do with Clinton, and the 00s&#8217; economy had nothing to do with Bush.  In point of fact, there&#8217;s about jack, jack, more jack and s**t that a President can do to directly and immediately effect and economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72116</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Clinton got impeached for his infidelities, while at the same time several high ranking military officers got booted for the same thing.  Clinton hurt the military that's serving now because he cut so much funding that the military scrapped most of it's second elistment training that people reenlisted for, he also cut so deep that many ships and submarines went out to sea without many spare parts and some maintenance not accomplished.  I saw the cuts as I work as a defense contractor.  That's how he balanced the budget, on the backs of our military.  That is why he could only lob some cruise missiles around and took a pass at taking out UBL when he could have a couple of times.  Sorry for the vent, but Clinton was and still is a scumbag in the eyes of many men and women who served during his presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Clinton got impeached for his infidelities, while at the same time several high ranking military officers got booted for the same thing.  Clinton hurt the military that&#8217;s serving now because he cut so much funding that the military scrapped most of it&#8217;s second elistment training that people reenlisted for, he also cut so deep that many ships and submarines went out to sea without many spare parts and some maintenance not accomplished.  I saw the cuts as I work as a defense contractor.  That&#8217;s how he balanced the budget, on the backs of our military.  That is why he could only lob some cruise missiles around and took a pass at taking out UBL when he could have a couple of times.  Sorry for the vent, but Clinton was and still is a scumbag in the eyes of many men and women who served during his presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72111</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcie Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief, jfk!  You can't possibly be serious that the media squashed
any Clinton scandals!  Unlike the way Obama has been annointed and
protected by the media, they had a field day with both the Clintons.
I have the urge to vomit when I hear Chris Mathews say that he feels
a "tingle" going up his leg when he hears Obama speak....OMG!!  What
are these people thinking???
I didn't specifically say that I was "OK with Clinton's moral transgressions
because I was OK economically"....I did state that, as a Christian, I was
bothered by this; however, since he was keeping his contract with America
in keeping us safe and economically sound, who am I to question what
he decided to do in his personal life?  That's between him and God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief, jfk!  You can&#8217;t possibly be serious that the media squashed<br />
any Clinton scandals!  Unlike the way Obama has been annointed and<br />
protected by the media, they had a field day with both the Clintons.<br />
I have the urge to vomit when I hear Chris Mathews say that he feels<br />
a &#8220;tingle&#8221; going up his leg when he hears Obama speak&#8230;.OMG!!  What<br />
are these people thinking???<br />
I didn&#8217;t specifically say that I was &#8220;OK with Clinton&#8217;s moral transgressions<br />
because I was OK economically&#8221;&#8230;.I did state that, as a Christian, I was<br />
bothered by this; however, since he was keeping his contract with America<br />
in keeping us safe and economically sound, who am I to question what<br />
he decided to do in his personal life?  That&#8217;s between him and God.</p>
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		<title>By: jfk</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72100</link>
		<dc:creator>jfk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BG, you are trying to equivocate.  I am not giving McCain a pass on any infidelity he may be guilty of.   Specifically, I am referring to the troubling comment that Marcie made about being OK with Clinton's moral trangressions because she was OK economically.   The morality of the Iraq war will be debated for generations-I assume that's what you are referring to. Likewise, whether we are in a recession or not can be debated (I guess you don't feel that Congress has any role in our economy???).  My personal opinion is that there were so many Clinton scandals they can't be remembered, and many more scandals were squashed by an aiding and abetting media.  

BG, I know how you feel.  Let's let Marcie answer, if she will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BG, you are trying to equivocate.  I am not giving McCain a pass on any infidelity he may be guilty of.   Specifically, I am referring to the troubling comment that Marcie made about being OK with Clinton&#8217;s moral trangressions because she was OK economically.   The morality of the Iraq war will be debated for generations-I assume that&#8217;s what you are referring to. Likewise, whether we are in a recession or not can be debated (I guess you don&#8217;t feel that Congress has any role in our economy???).  My personal opinion is that there were so many Clinton scandals they can&#8217;t be remembered, and many more scandals were squashed by an aiding and abetting media.  </p>
<p>BG, I know how you feel.  Let&#8217;s let Marcie answer, if she will.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/12/bill-clintons-legacy-comes-a-haunting/#comment-72099</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcie Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jfk....let's see.  It's not that I justified immoral and wrong behavior by
Clinton no more than I justify the wrong and immoral behavior of Bush
and Cheney, but it helped somewhat to send my kids to colleges without
going in the hole with student loans.  If I were to talk to Jesus about
the behavior of Bill Clinton, I believe Jesus would tell me that I must
find it in my heart to forgive him.
I saw a funny bumper sticker today which states:  "Clinton's lie hurt him
but Bushes lie  hurt us all".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jfk&#8230;.let&#8217;s see.  It&#8217;s not that I justified immoral and wrong behavior by<br />
Clinton no more than I justify the wrong and immoral behavior of Bush<br />
and Cheney, but it helped somewhat to send my kids to colleges without<br />
going in the hole with student loans.  If I were to talk to Jesus about<br />
the behavior of Bill Clinton, I believe Jesus would tell me that I must<br />
find it in my heart to forgive him.<br />
I saw a funny bumper sticker today which states:  &#8220;Clinton&#8217;s lie hurt him<br />
but Bushes lie  hurt us all&#8221;.</p>
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