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	<title>Comments on: Prince William Tops Real Estate Market For Sixth Straight Month</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72722</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seems to be the norm when dealing with banks. You almost wonder if they actually want to sell the property or just leave it on their books because it looks more impressive when they ask Congress for a bailout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems to be the norm when dealing with banks. You almost wonder if they actually want to sell the property or just leave it on their books because it looks more impressive when they ask Congress for a bailout.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72694</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn't the condition of our property, it was the bank itself.  Bean counters have no respect for the buyer, for doing anything in a timely fashion (it should not take three weeks to accept an offer or six weeks to ratify a contract), or merely meeting the traditional terms of a sales contract.  More often than not, the can't even settle on the contracted date.  Condition of the property - you find those out at a home inspection.  Conditions of the sale - banks make that stuff up as they go along, without any respect for the buyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t the condition of our property, it was the bank itself.  Bean counters have no respect for the buyer, for doing anything in a timely fashion (it should not take three weeks to accept an offer or six weeks to ratify a contract), or merely meeting the traditional terms of a sales contract.  More often than not, the can&#8217;t even settle on the contracted date.  Condition of the property - you find those out at a home inspection.  Conditions of the sale - banks make that stuff up as they go along, without any respect for the buyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72647</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a guy who recently purchased a foreclosure with an FHA loan. It had some problems related to about 8 years of no maintenance and no housekeeping, as well as poorly-done "improvements" (like adding a wall in the basement to make another bedroom).

There is nothing wrong with purchasing a foreclosure IF you are willing to accept that you may need do some repairs. (It also helps if you know how to do them yourself--if you're the sort of person who needs to call the heating/ac company because the ignitor on your furnace stopped working--then a foreclosure may not be for you). 

Also, when the MLS listing says to bring a "hammer and nails", read that as a "sledgehammer and a trashcan" and it'll probably be closer to the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a guy who recently purchased a foreclosure with an FHA loan. It had some problems related to about 8 years of no maintenance and no housekeeping, as well as poorly-done &#8220;improvements&#8221; (like adding a wall in the basement to make another bedroom).</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with purchasing a foreclosure IF you are willing to accept that you may need do some repairs. (It also helps if you know how to do them yourself&#8211;if you&#8217;re the sort of person who needs to call the heating/ac company because the ignitor on your furnace stopped working&#8211;then a foreclosure may not be for you). </p>
<p>Also, when the MLS listing says to bring a &#8220;hammer and nails&#8221;, read that as a &#8220;sledgehammer and a trashcan&#8221; and it&#8217;ll probably be closer to the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72632</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because people expect to be able to buy at 5.75%.  Because the economy and the job market to many are uncertain.  Because credit requirements are much tighter, making it harder for those with mediocre credit to qualify.  And, I know this first hand, the requirements of purchasing a foreclosed property are just insane.  Having just purchased one from Countrywide, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone and honestly would never purchase a foreclosure again.  It's a nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because people expect to be able to buy at 5.75%.  Because the economy and the job market to many are uncertain.  Because credit requirements are much tighter, making it harder for those with mediocre credit to qualify.  And, I know this first hand, the requirements of purchasing a foreclosed property are just insane.  Having just purchased one from Countrywide, I wouldn&#8217;t recommend it to anyone and honestly would never purchase a foreclosure again.  It&#8217;s a nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72317</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, I have to wonder why, if the $185k house is such a great deal, someone who would otherwise be renting didn't put a 3 percent downpayment on it ($5400) and get a 30-year fixed FHA loan @ 6.75% or so. Is it by chance a townhouse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, I have to wonder why, if the $185k house is such a great deal, someone who would otherwise be renting didn&#8217;t put a 3 percent downpayment on it ($5400) and get a 30-year fixed FHA loan @ 6.75% or so. Is it by chance a townhouse?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72316</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, what's in "immaculate condition" now probably isn't going to be after you've had renters in there, so take into account the damage that they can do (even by failing to report, for example, a water leak for months on end) and how much the cost of repairing it may exceed whatever you're going to charge for a security deposit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, what&#8217;s in &#8220;immaculate condition&#8221; now probably isn&#8217;t going to be after you&#8217;ve had renters in there, so take into account the damage that they can do (even by failing to report, for example, a water leak for months on end) and how much the cost of repairing it may exceed whatever you&#8217;re going to charge for a security deposit.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72314</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"hope to flip both these properties that are in immaculate condition in a year or two"

I think it's going to take a bit longer than a year or two for the prices on these houses to rise to the point where you can break even, given taxes and closing costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;hope to flip both these properties that are in immaculate condition in a year or two&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s going to take a bit longer than a year or two for the prices on these houses to rise to the point where you can break even, given taxes and closing costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72288</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The houses are selling because they are 1/2 price or less from 3 years ago, I bought one for $185k that 3 years ago sold for $367k, I'm looking at another in Gainesville that 3 years ago sold for $625k that I believe I can get for $350k.  It's great to be a real estate investor in PWC, hope to flip both these properties that are in immaculate condition in a year or two, while renting them both for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The houses are selling because they are 1/2 price or less from 3 years ago, I bought one for $185k that 3 years ago sold for $367k, I&#8217;m looking at another in Gainesville that 3 years ago sold for $625k that I believe I can get for $350k.  It&#8217;s great to be a real estate investor in PWC, hope to flip both these properties that are in immaculate condition in a year or two, while renting them both for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72234</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of those people bought the property they are renting out long before the run-up in prices, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of those people bought the property they are renting out long before the run-up in prices, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72233</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at ownership data for a street in West Gate of Lomond recently, using the PW County GIS mapper. I found exactly one non-owner occupied property, and it wasn't a bank sale.

The two bank sales on that street are both owner-occupied (based on the owner mailing address being the same as the property address).

The problem with buying a property just to rent it out in this market is that you're competing with the people who had to (or just wanted to) move, don't want to sell because the market is down right now, and are renting their property too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at ownership data for a street in West Gate of Lomond recently, using the PW County GIS mapper. I found exactly one non-owner occupied property, and it wasn&#8217;t a bank sale.</p>
<p>The two bank sales on that street are both owner-occupied (based on the owner mailing address being the same as the property address).</p>
<p>The problem with buying a property just to rent it out in this market is that you&#8217;re competing with the people who had to (or just wanted to) move, don&#8217;t want to sell because the market is down right now, and are renting their property too.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72230</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Dawn,
The facts are right here in my neighborhood. I live in a small subdivision and about 10% of the homes are vacant. About 5% of those have sold and they were all sold to investors at auction for more than $200,000 less than the current assessments. It was not hard to figure out investors bought them when For Rent signs went up.

Read the post from Anonymous said on 14 Aug 2008 at 6:50 pm: Same deal in that neighborhood.

I can't remember who said loans are hard to get so that person did not believe investors were buying the houses. Yes, loans are hard to get but many investors have lots of cash to invest. I have a family member who invests in real estate and has no problems in buying houses in this environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Dawn,<br />
The facts are right here in my neighborhood. I live in a small subdivision and about 10% of the homes are vacant. About 5% of those have sold and they were all sold to investors at auction for more than $200,000 less than the current assessments. It was not hard to figure out investors bought them when For Rent signs went up.</p>
<p>Read the post from Anonymous said on 14 Aug 2008 at 6:50 pm: Same deal in that neighborhood.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember who said loans are hard to get so that person did not believe investors were buying the houses. Yes, loans are hard to get but many investors have lots of cash to invest. I have a family member who invests in real estate and has no problems in buying houses in this environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wills</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72229</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AW:  I believe that Greg was trying to say the numbers of units being sold in PWC is so much greater and that was showing things to be better here.  What I was trying to point out was that it is not the number of units but the value of the units that makes the difference in income to the juristiction.  Yes my first home in Arlington that I bought for 28K is now valued over 500K in 40 years.  What is sad that Stafford and Culpeper have higher values then PWC.  This is the second time that the tax payers have had to bail out lending practices and the first time was for the S&#38;L debacal and that cost billions as well.  

Location is the most important but the way a government is run and how it is perceived does have an impact on the value of RE and what businsses want to be in those jurisdictions as well.  Do you ever hear PWC being advertised welcoming business such as Stafford does for the BRAC impact?  You should be a business trying to remodel or build in PWC and see the run around the Staff and BOCS give them.  Look at the gas station where Lake Ridge demanded they have a white border around their awning.  what do you think of taking 15 months to get a 12 X 15 dance floor put in.  What about 9 months to get approval to put some banners on light poles in a SC and if they change the design it will be another 9 months to get it approved. The BOCS think they own the world and the world needs them.  This county has one of the worst reputation there is and the lower the value of RE goes the less retailers want to be here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AW:  I believe that Greg was trying to say the numbers of units being sold in PWC is so much greater and that was showing things to be better here.  What I was trying to point out was that it is not the number of units but the value of the units that makes the difference in income to the juristiction.  Yes my first home in Arlington that I bought for 28K is now valued over 500K in 40 years.  What is sad that Stafford and Culpeper have higher values then PWC.  This is the second time that the tax payers have had to bail out lending practices and the first time was for the S&amp;L debacal and that cost billions as well.  </p>
<p>Location is the most important but the way a government is run and how it is perceived does have an impact on the value of RE and what businsses want to be in those jurisdictions as well.  Do you ever hear PWC being advertised welcoming business such as Stafford does for the BRAC impact?  You should be a business trying to remodel or build in PWC and see the run around the Staff and BOCS give them.  Look at the gas station where Lake Ridge demanded they have a white border around their awning.  what do you think of taking 15 months to get a 12 X 15 dance floor put in.  What about 9 months to get approval to put some banners on light poles in a SC and if they change the design it will be another 9 months to get it approved. The BOCS think they own the world and the world needs them.  This county has one of the worst reputation there is and the lower the value of RE goes the less retailers want to be here.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72210</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NoVA, I was referencing Bob Will's data.  I could also add that his other figures are also not far off in terms of regional disparity, historically.  My point being, hopefully the market is getting back to normal, and I won't be receiving any more of those absurd offers to refinance our home for triple what I consider it to be worth.  Those fools that did, generally out of greed and without thought to future consequences, helped inflate that real estate bubble by providing a market for even greedier mortgage brokers...who are being bailed out by the taxpayer.  Welcome to the age of corporate welfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NoVA, I was referencing Bob Will&#8217;s data.  I could also add that his other figures are also not far off in terms of regional disparity, historically.  My point being, hopefully the market is getting back to normal, and I won&#8217;t be receiving any more of those absurd offers to refinance our home for triple what I consider it to be worth.  Those fools that did, generally out of greed and without thought to future consequences, helped inflate that real estate bubble by providing a market for even greedier mortgage brokers&#8230;who are being bailed out by the taxpayer.  Welcome to the age of corporate welfare.</p>
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		<title>By: NoVA Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72207</link>
		<dc:creator>NoVA Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AW:  Greg's data in the post only compare each jurisdiction to itself at a previous point in time.  By that measure, home prices in PWC were down far more than any of the other jurisdictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AW:  Greg&#8217;s data in the post only compare each jurisdiction to itself at a previous point in time.  By that measure, home prices in PWC were down far more than any of the other jurisdictions.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72205</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one thing that you're forgetting, Mr. Wills...that value disparity has always existed between PWC and Arlington.  There's the matter of location, location, location!  Those prices that you're quoting are just about where the real estate market prices should should be, had they been allowed to evolve naturally.  There's a little bit farther to go, but it's a lot better than living in a bubble...which the Fed seems to be determined to re-create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one thing that you&#8217;re forgetting, Mr. Wills&#8230;that value disparity has always existed between PWC and Arlington.  There&#8217;s the matter of location, location, location!  Those prices that you&#8217;re quoting are just about where the real estate market prices should should be, had they been allowed to evolve naturally.  There&#8217;s a little bit farther to go, but it&#8217;s a lot better than living in a bubble&#8230;which the Fed seems to be determined to re-create.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wills</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72174</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>% of Active Listings Sold Median Price
23.15% Arlington $484,000
21.66% Alex $427,500
17.65% FFX $379,950
16.69% Loudoun $350,000
16.58% Pr Wm $214,000
6.98% Fauquier $279,254
7.81% Culpeper $217,750
11.06% Stafford $290,000


Transfer taxes are based not on the number of units sold but on the value of the property.  Arlington can sell one house and generate more income then PWC does selling two houses.  What is glaring to me is that PWC is the lowest valuation then those counties where the people have to drive even further to get to N Va or DC to work then PWC.  This county is in terrible shape and it will be at least a year before there is any turn around.  Wonder what the " NO TAX INCREASE IN RATES " supervisors will do for the next budget as they have no concept of the fiscal impact on the citizens of PWC or what their actions cost us to live here.  Why doesn't the BOCS use the transfer taxes to allow us to issue the bonds for the 800 million dollar bond issue that " will not cause an increase in taxes ".  Stewart should not complain about being sold a "pig in a poke " by the GA when he and the BOCS as well as the Government of PWC lied to everyone about what the bond issue would cost us in taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>% of Active Listings Sold Median Price<br />
23.15% Arlington $484,000<br />
21.66% Alex $427,500<br />
17.65% FFX $379,950<br />
16.69% Loudoun $350,000<br />
16.58% Pr Wm $214,000<br />
6.98% Fauquier $279,254<br />
7.81% Culpeper $217,750<br />
11.06% Stafford $290,000</p>
<p>Transfer taxes are based not on the number of units sold but on the value of the property.  Arlington can sell one house and generate more income then PWC does selling two houses.  What is glaring to me is that PWC is the lowest valuation then those counties where the people have to drive even further to get to N Va or DC to work then PWC.  This county is in terrible shape and it will be at least a year before there is any turn around.  Wonder what the &#8221; NO TAX INCREASE IN RATES &#8221; supervisors will do for the next budget as they have no concept of the fiscal impact on the citizens of PWC or what their actions cost us to live here.  Why doesn&#8217;t the BOCS use the transfer taxes to allow us to issue the bonds for the 800 million dollar bond issue that &#8221; will not cause an increase in taxes &#8220;.  Stewart should not complain about being sold a &#8220;pig in a poke &#8221; by the GA when he and the BOCS as well as the Government of PWC lied to everyone about what the bond issue would cost us in taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: A PW County Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72159</link>
		<dc:creator>A PW County Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure how anyone else feels about debates over housing valuation but I will put my two cents worth.  First off, I don't know how much is due to a motivation to be in this county because of the resolution.  I am not qualified to have an opinion.

I do know that for the past few years, I looked at the new construction and started to see "starting in the $900 thousands."  If anyone wants to be real about things, do they really think that was an actual value?  Who couldn't see the handwriting on the wall, when you could buy the house with no money down, low rates in the beginning and the chance of unbridled increases.  That is why when we refinanced, we did so within a value we believed reflected true value rather than an inflated one that the bank was "selling."

I am not so concerned right now about the valuation because real estate has always been a slow but steady investment.  So any positive movement sets the stage for a correction back to normal rates of increased value.  But there had to be a negative course correction to begin with and frankly, if your timing is off, you can lose a great deal.  I have benefitted and also lost depending on my need to sell a house and the timing of the sale.

PW has always been a place where growth has occurred because of a lower real estate valuation than neighboring communities and with lower values, should have higher rates of sales after the initial value correction.  (It also used to be a place that had a rural setting but that positive has been decimated in recent years. Or as I like to quote from the song, "they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.)

I will let sociologists, economists or others spar over the effect of the resolution.  I have never bought into the argument that our current real estate issues were negatively impacted by the resolution but I am also not ready to say that the resolution was the sole reason for its recovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure how anyone else feels about debates over housing valuation but I will put my two cents worth.  First off, I don&#8217;t know how much is due to a motivation to be in this county because of the resolution.  I am not qualified to have an opinion.</p>
<p>I do know that for the past few years, I looked at the new construction and started to see &#8220;starting in the $900 thousands.&#8221;  If anyone wants to be real about things, do they really think that was an actual value?  Who couldn&#8217;t see the handwriting on the wall, when you could buy the house with no money down, low rates in the beginning and the chance of unbridled increases.  That is why when we refinanced, we did so within a value we believed reflected true value rather than an inflated one that the bank was &#8220;selling.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not so concerned right now about the valuation because real estate has always been a slow but steady investment.  So any positive movement sets the stage for a correction back to normal rates of increased value.  But there had to be a negative course correction to begin with and frankly, if your timing is off, you can lose a great deal.  I have benefitted and also lost depending on my need to sell a house and the timing of the sale.</p>
<p>PW has always been a place where growth has occurred because of a lower real estate valuation than neighboring communities and with lower values, should have higher rates of sales after the initial value correction.  (It also used to be a place that had a rural setting but that positive has been decimated in recent years. Or as I like to quote from the song, &#8220;they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.)</p>
<p>I will let sociologists, economists or others spar over the effect of the resolution.  I have never bought into the argument that our current real estate issues were negatively impacted by the resolution but I am also not ready to say that the resolution was the sole reason for its recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72152</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The real problem occurs if and when the market does recover, we all saw the games Lord Connaughton played with rates in a rising market, a strategem that played a large role in getting the county into the fix it is in now."

Yes and where exactly did all that money go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The real problem occurs if and when the market does recover, we all saw the games Lord Connaughton played with rates in a rising market, a strategem that played a large role in getting the county into the fix it is in now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes and where exactly did all that money go?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72150</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Observations-
               
 - We are part of a national burst real estate bubble --
 nation wide numers indicate that the values that went 
 up the fastest have gone down the most -- look
 at  Florida, California, Nevada and, yes,
 northern Virginia.  
 
 - Many modest neigborhoods in PWC were built in
 the last thirty years to house families  that
 couldn't afford to live in Fairfax.  In fact, the most
 recent study of comparatively affordable housing
 in northern Virginia showed, as a percentage,
 Manassas Park  ranked first, Manassas City
 second and PWC third.  We had less expensive
 homes before the bust and afterwards - we still do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observations-</p>
<p> - We are part of a national burst real estate bubble &#8211;<br />
 nation wide numers indicate that the values that went<br />
 up the fastest have gone down the most &#8212; look<br />
 at  Florida, California, Nevada and, yes,<br />
 northern Virginia.  </p>
<p> - Many modest neigborhoods in PWC were built in<br />
 the last thirty years to house families  that<br />
 couldn&#8217;t afford to live in Fairfax.  In fact, the most<br />
 recent study of comparatively affordable housing<br />
 in northern Virginia showed, as a percentage,<br />
 Manassas Park  ranked first, Manassas City<br />
 second and PWC third.  We had less expensive<br />
 homes before the bust and afterwards - we still do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/08/13/prince-william-tops-real-estate-market-for-sixth-straight-month/#comment-72145</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The transfers result in greater tax revenue to the county as well as settlement on tax liens that represent a pretty significant collection of deferred revenue for the county.... The county needs that revenue, and while other jurisdictions are looking at a continued erosion of real estate transfer tax revenues, Prince William is seeing this revenue stream improve."

Short term and from a fiscal planning standpoint irresponsible thinking, any perceived benefit is grossly outweighed by the likely negative impact on next year's assessments.  The only way to balance the impact on assessments and offset the revenue loss is the raise the rate meaning properties owners will likely pay the same or greater number of real dollars for properties of now lesser values.  No big deal in the short term, residents should expect to pay a relatively equivalent amount from year to year as cost of public services does not generally rise or fall with the real estate market, but it will cause cause for griping.  The real problem occurs if and when the market does recover, we all saw the games Lord Connaughton played with rates in a rising market, a strategem that played a large role in getting the county into the fix it is in now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The transfers result in greater tax revenue to the county as well as settlement on tax liens that represent a pretty significant collection of deferred revenue for the county&#8230;. The county needs that revenue, and while other jurisdictions are looking at a continued erosion of real estate transfer tax revenues, Prince William is seeing this revenue stream improve.&#8221;</p>
<p>Short term and from a fiscal planning standpoint irresponsible thinking, any perceived benefit is grossly outweighed by the likely negative impact on next year&#8217;s assessments.  The only way to balance the impact on assessments and offset the revenue loss is the raise the rate meaning properties owners will likely pay the same or greater number of real dollars for properties of now lesser values.  No big deal in the short term, residents should expect to pay a relatively equivalent amount from year to year as cost of public services does not generally rise or fall with the real estate market, but it will cause cause for griping.  The real problem occurs if and when the market does recover, we all saw the games Lord Connaughton played with rates in a rising market, a strategem that played a large role in getting the county into the fix it is in now.</p>
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