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	<title>Comments on: Stalingrad On The Occoquan</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/</link>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74315</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74315</guid>
		<description>It's what comes after the vicious character assassination and manipulation of County resources. Time to play nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s what comes after the vicious character assassination and manipulation of County resources. Time to play nice.</p>
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		<title>By: indigenous_Elvis</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74313</link>
		<dc:creator>indigenous_Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74313</guid>
		<description>seems as the FOIA requests are flying, I hope to see some results posted around here on what people find out, when I get something I'll forward it to greg for a look. I threw in two today, I'll keep what I asked for under wraps until I get something interesting. I would have put in more but I was too busy laughing at the touchy/feely crap on the other board, better than comedy central. it should be called hippy central.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems as the FOIA requests are flying, I hope to see some results posted around here on what people find out, when I get something I&#8217;ll forward it to greg for a look. I threw in two today, I&#8217;ll keep what I asked for under wraps until I get something interesting. I would have put in more but I was too busy laughing at the touchy/feely crap on the other board, better than comedy central. it should be called hippy central.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74309</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74309</guid>
		<description>Riley some of the BOCS have helped promote this. Not ready to mention names yet, although they know who they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riley some of the BOCS have helped promote this. Not ready to mention names yet, although they know who they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74275</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74275</guid>
		<description>Is Ham Sandwich still around?

Speaking of FOIA, back when the Tate case was hot and heavy, Loudoun CA Jim Plowman was FOIAed for correspondence.  Somehow they were inadvertently not saved.  Someone found copies somehwere else later and they didn't make him look good.

As I said before, a truly independent FOIA officer is needed in every county to ensure selective FOIA doesn't become the norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Ham Sandwich still around?</p>
<p>Speaking of FOIA, back when the Tate case was hot and heavy, Loudoun CA Jim Plowman was FOIAed for correspondence.  Somehow they were inadvertently not saved.  Someone found copies somehwere else later and they didn&#8217;t make him look good.</p>
<p>As I said before, a truly independent FOIA officer is needed in every county to ensure selective FOIA doesn&#8217;t become the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74269</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74269</guid>
		<description>The Prince William Board of County Supervisors needs to take these revelations very seriously and get out ahead of this.  An independent investigation should be undertaken led by someone from outside the county with no ties whatsoever to Gerhart, any of his underlings, Police Chief Charlie Deane or Commonwealth’s Attorney Paul Ebert.  Questions need to be asked of Gerhart and the other named staffers and the supervisors need to take appropriate action up to and including termination of such employees as is warranted.  These individuals are supposed to be working to implement official county policy as set by votes of the supervisors, not furthering their own personal ideological agendas.

It is time for our elected officials and we the citizens of Prince William County to take our government back from these insulated career bureaucrats who believe they are accountable to no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Prince William Board of County Supervisors needs to take these revelations very seriously and get out ahead of this.  An independent investigation should be undertaken led by someone from outside the county with no ties whatsoever to Gerhart, any of his underlings, Police Chief Charlie Deane or Commonwealth’s Attorney Paul Ebert.  Questions need to be asked of Gerhart and the other named staffers and the supervisors need to take appropriate action up to and including termination of such employees as is warranted.  These individuals are supposed to be working to implement official county policy as set by votes of the supervisors, not furthering their own personal ideological agendas.</p>
<p>It is time for our elected officials and we the citizens of Prince William County to take our government back from these insulated career bureaucrats who believe they are accountable to no one.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74261</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74261</guid>
		<description>My only intent was to share information regarding immigration in PWC. 
I thought that was a topic. Greg, you really should consider sharing that information on the Study Circles with you posters and members of HSM. 
I do sincerely apologize. I am not willing to participate in a flame war BTW. 
sorry,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only intent was to share information regarding immigration in PWC.<br />
I thought that was a topic. Greg, you really should consider sharing that information on the Study Circles with you posters and members of HSM.<br />
I do sincerely apologize. I am not willing to participate in a flame war BTW.<br />
sorry,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74260</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74260</guid>
		<description>Ed note: numerous off-topic comments that started digressing into a flame war have been removed.  Let's please not try to drag threads off-topic, please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed note: numerous off-topic comments that started digressing into a flame war have been removed.  Let&#8217;s please not try to drag threads off-topic, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Indigenous_Elvis</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74241</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigenous_Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74241</guid>
		<description>sorry, I'm AM going to file a FOIA request...actually many of them. I doubt I'll get anything back as mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, I&#8217;m AM going to file a FOIA request&#8230;actually many of them. I doubt I&#8217;ll get anything back as mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigenous_Elvis</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74240</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigenous_Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74240</guid>
		<description>medic,

I'm truly concerned as well...actually very, very concerned as this is a possible abuse of process. The FOIA procedures were put there for a reason, to allow the citizens to keep tabs on the government and to allow other citizens to see what was disseminated. FOIA was meant to cover the bases to ensure all that was being accomplished. By going in the "backdoor" we have the appearances of a process breach, In fact I'm not going to file a FOIA request to see everything that Eric Byler has requested. I doubt I'll get anything back on this, but at least It should prickle some feathers somewhere.

I've been researching the 9500 liberty crowd and what I have come to find out is that they appear pretty shady; byler writing his own wiki entries and such. It's pretty apparent they flip-flopped on the illegal immigration issue. I have a strong suspicion that when the election is over and the illegal immigration issue is not as strong on peoples minds as it is now, they will all disappear into the woodwork. Elena and the others will follow for sure when they find a better cause to support....


I have always felt this was just another "cause" for them to support, help the poor little illegal aliens who can do no wrong, all they want to do is work right? They provide more services than they take right?

Wrong, Illegal is Illegal no matter how you slice it. why should anyone give a damn about someone who is here illegally? criminality breeds criminality, does not matter how passive people seem to be..the fact that they do one criminal act means they have compulsion to do another (you see illegals driving all the time without licenses, that's illegal and they freely admit too it all the time)


My personal feelings is that I dont give a damn about illegals or their families. I have always felt birthright citizenship should have been amended long ago (it was for slaves, not illegals) and that they all should be deported immediately. Push them all back across the border from whence they came and not to let the door hit them on the way out. And, anyone who supports or abets an illegal alien in hiding and/or criminal activity while knowing they are illegal should be deported too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>medic,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m truly concerned as well&#8230;actually very, very concerned as this is a possible abuse of process. The FOIA procedures were put there for a reason, to allow the citizens to keep tabs on the government and to allow other citizens to see what was disseminated. FOIA was meant to cover the bases to ensure all that was being accomplished. By going in the &#8220;backdoor&#8221; we have the appearances of a process breach, In fact I&#8217;m not going to file a FOIA request to see everything that Eric Byler has requested. I doubt I&#8217;ll get anything back on this, but at least It should prickle some feathers somewhere.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been researching the 9500 liberty crowd and what I have come to find out is that they appear pretty shady; byler writing his own wiki entries and such. It&#8217;s pretty apparent they flip-flopped on the illegal immigration issue. I have a strong suspicion that when the election is over and the illegal immigration issue is not as strong on peoples minds as it is now, they will all disappear into the woodwork. Elena and the others will follow for sure when they find a better cause to support&#8230;.</p>
<p>I have always felt this was just another &#8220;cause&#8221; for them to support, help the poor little illegal aliens who can do no wrong, all they want to do is work right? They provide more services than they take right?</p>
<p>Wrong, Illegal is Illegal no matter how you slice it. why should anyone give a damn about someone who is here illegally? criminality breeds criminality, does not matter how passive people seem to be..the fact that they do one criminal act means they have compulsion to do another (you see illegals driving all the time without licenses, that&#8217;s illegal and they freely admit too it all the time)</p>
<p>My personal feelings is that I dont give a damn about illegals or their families. I have always felt birthright citizenship should have been amended long ago (it was for slaves, not illegals) and that they all should be deported immediately. Push them all back across the border from whence they came and not to let the door hit them on the way out. And, anyone who supports or abets an illegal alien in hiding and/or criminal activity while knowing they are illegal should be deported too.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74238</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74238</guid>
		<description>elvis,

I am concerned as well.  It doesn't matter that he is with the 9500 Liberty group, who else is getting the same info through the backdoor?  Why does he need this, wouldn't an FOIA request spell it out?  Given his reputation at 9500, this seems like a witch hunt or something that will be added and misconstrued truth that they seem to be able to push out now.  I had respect for them at first, but lost it after I saw the transition to ILLEGAL alien apologists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elvis,</p>
<p>I am concerned as well.  It doesn&#8217;t matter that he is with the 9500 Liberty group, who else is getting the same info through the backdoor?  Why does he need this, wouldn&#8217;t an FOIA request spell it out?  Given his reputation at 9500, this seems like a witch hunt or something that will be added and misconstrued truth that they seem to be able to push out now.  I had respect for them at first, but lost it after I saw the transition to ILLEGAL alien apologists.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigenous_Elvis</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74228</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigenous_Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74228</guid>
		<description>whatever he asked for needs to be on the record as a standard FOIA request so the rest of the public can see what he required. That's the way you are supposed to do it, not use backchannel methods. Anyone asked via e-mail i.e. the persons above, should have informed him to submit a proper FOIA request through the proper channels. I'm concerned that none of the county employee's told him this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever he asked for needs to be on the record as a standard FOIA request so the rest of the public can see what he required. That&#8217;s the way you are supposed to do it, not use backchannel methods. Anyone asked via e-mail i.e. the persons above, should have informed him to submit a proper FOIA request through the proper channels. I&#8217;m concerned that none of the county employee&#8217;s told him this.</p>
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		<title>By: starryflights</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74227</link>
		<dc:creator>starryflights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74227</guid>
		<description>Byler may not have gotten any surveillance video that time, but what about previous times?  Who else might have asked for this or other video and received it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byler may not have gotten any surveillance video that time, but what about previous times?  Who else might have asked for this or other video and received it?</p>
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		<title>By: c2consult</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74223</link>
		<dc:creator>c2consult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74223</guid>
		<description>Did Byler get the security camera footage?  No!  From reading this, all I see is that he asked for it and received a response from the media relations team.  If the footage existed, you bet the county attorney would have been asked and you bet he would have said something to the effect of "hell no".  They would handle it the same way if FOX5 or NBC 4 asked for a Police 911 tape.  I've made those requests before - sometimes you get a yes --sometimes a no.   

I work in media.  Bloggers now fall into the category of 'non-traditional media'.  They usually get the same rights as 'traditional media'.  Didn't the Wonkette blog obtain White House press credentials a couple years ago?  Isn't the Washington Post a blog when they put stories online and allow comments?  Whatever Byler's slant, it seems he just asked the right people.  What did he get?  Some DVDs and a cable to hook into a media pool audio feed?  All the TV crews get to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Byler get the security camera footage?  No!  From reading this, all I see is that he asked for it and received a response from the media relations team.  If the footage existed, you bet the county attorney would have been asked and you bet he would have said something to the effect of &#8220;hell no&#8221;.  They would handle it the same way if FOX5 or NBC 4 asked for a Police 911 tape.  I&#8217;ve made those requests before - sometimes you get a yes &#8211;sometimes a no.   </p>
<p>I work in media.  Bloggers now fall into the category of &#8216;non-traditional media&#8217;.  They usually get the same rights as &#8216;traditional media&#8217;.  Didn&#8217;t the Wonkette blog obtain White House press credentials a couple years ago?  Isn&#8217;t the Washington Post a blog when they put stories online and allow comments?  Whatever Byler&#8217;s slant, it seems he just asked the right people.  What did he get?  Some DVDs and a cable to hook into a media pool audio feed?  All the TV crews get to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74217</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74217</guid>
		<description>Mando,

I know (c:  I was being sarcastic :)  I am in hopes that their names in the public will prevent them from "helping" those that do not go through the correct channels.  If byler gets his hands on any of this stuff, we should be able to get it as well and with the same ease as he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mando,</p>
<p>I know (c:  I was being sarcastic <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am in hopes that their names in the public will prevent them from &#8220;helping&#8221; those that do not go through the correct channels.  If byler gets his hands on any of this stuff, we should be able to get it as well and with the same ease as he did.</p>
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		<title>By: starryflights</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74215</link>
		<dc:creator>starryflights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74215</guid>
		<description>Time to send out emails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to send out emails.</p>
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		<title>By: Mando</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74213</link>
		<dc:creator>Mando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74213</guid>
		<description>@ Medic

I figure since all this has come to light, further proddings by Byler will be shunned and the red carpet will be rolled up.  Maybe I'm being naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Medic</p>
<p>I figure since all this has come to light, further proddings by Byler will be shunned and the red carpet will be rolled up.  Maybe I&#8217;m being naive.</p>
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		<title>By: NotFrankPrincipi</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74210</link>
		<dc:creator>NotFrankPrincipi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74210</guid>
		<description>Such foolishness (indeed)

Elected officials play politics, and you're "foolish" to think that they wouldn't.  County employees are prohibited from doing so.  You want to throw out the county's ethics policies, that's fine, but at least be honest that you self-loathing liberals are the ones that want county employees to be freed from any obligation to act as nonpartisan public servants.

No doubt if county employees were supporting HSM while drawing a taxpayer-funded salary, you'd be marching out front with a sign reading "not with my taxes" while muttering incoherently about warrantless wiretaps.  I guess liberal orthodoxy hasn't changed much since the Soviets taught you all about the bennies of spying on anyone who gives a crap about the Constitution.  Let's just use spy cameras on all those HSM people.  They're as inferior as all those unborn children we execute to prevent mothers from possibly suffering post-partum depression.  Let's use public resources to bully them into compliance with our enlightened worldview.  It's cheaper than building all those re-education camps, and we can use the savings to fund public school teachers instructing kindergarteners how to mastrubate.

I guess ethics policies are those things that Repugs have to deal with, while Barney Frank continues to roam the corridors of the Capitol looking for young boys to molest and Barry "Just Words" NoBama stuffs cash into his burka that he got from the slumlords and Fannie Mae executives he's been shielding from prosecution.

Liberals.  Ignorance should be a lot more painful than it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such foolishness (indeed)</p>
<p>Elected officials play politics, and you&#8217;re &#8220;foolish&#8221; to think that they wouldn&#8217;t.  County employees are prohibited from doing so.  You want to throw out the county&#8217;s ethics policies, that&#8217;s fine, but at least be honest that you self-loathing liberals are the ones that want county employees to be freed from any obligation to act as nonpartisan public servants.</p>
<p>No doubt if county employees were supporting HSM while drawing a taxpayer-funded salary, you&#8217;d be marching out front with a sign reading &#8220;not with my taxes&#8221; while muttering incoherently about warrantless wiretaps.  I guess liberal orthodoxy hasn&#8217;t changed much since the Soviets taught you all about the bennies of spying on anyone who gives a crap about the Constitution.  Let&#8217;s just use spy cameras on all those HSM people.  They&#8217;re as inferior as all those unborn children we execute to prevent mothers from possibly suffering post-partum depression.  Let&#8217;s use public resources to bully them into compliance with our enlightened worldview.  It&#8217;s cheaper than building all those re-education camps, and we can use the savings to fund public school teachers instructing kindergarteners how to mastrubate.</p>
<p>I guess ethics policies are those things that Repugs have to deal with, while Barney Frank continues to roam the corridors of the Capitol looking for young boys to molest and Barry &#8220;Just Words&#8221; NoBama stuffs cash into his burka that he got from the slumlords and Fannie Mae executives he&#8217;s been shielding from prosecution.</p>
<p>Liberals.  Ignorance should be a lot more painful than it is.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74207</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74207</guid>
		<description>If there is to be an accounting for "waste" within the county, the County Executive should be directed to create a zero-base budget within each department now and every five years thereafter...perhaps staggered by department.

The purpose would not be to "...justify the police department every year..." as Craig Gerhardt ridiculously alledged last year, but to clearly identify the tasked functions of each department and then, to outline the resources (personnel...to include salary grades...and materials) necessary to perform each of those functions.  In aggregate, you have the budget.

Today, the Staff "creates a budget" and gives it to the BOCS for review.  As has been said before, the BOCS nor the Supervisors' "budget review committees" have visibility into the details of budget creation.  A zero-based budget would provide that visibility.  Do you think it will happen?  Nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is to be an accounting for &#8220;waste&#8221; within the county, the County Executive should be directed to create a zero-base budget within each department now and every five years thereafter&#8230;perhaps staggered by department.</p>
<p>The purpose would not be to &#8220;&#8230;justify the police department every year&#8230;&#8221; as Craig Gerhardt ridiculously alledged last year, but to clearly identify the tasked functions of each department and then, to outline the resources (personnel&#8230;to include salary grades&#8230;and materials) necessary to perform each of those functions.  In aggregate, you have the budget.</p>
<p>Today, the Staff &#8220;creates a budget&#8221; and gives it to the BOCS for review.  As has been said before, the BOCS nor the Supervisors&#8217; &#8220;budget review committees&#8221; have visibility into the details of budget creation.  A zero-based budget would provide that visibility.  Do you think it will happen?  Nope.</p>
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		<title>By: finding waste</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74205</link>
		<dc:creator>finding waste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74205</guid>
		<description>Speaking of Government waste why doesn’t someone sit outside the McCoart building at quitting time and watch how many County owned vehicles are driven to remote locations throughout Prince William County just for the purpose of the employees communing to and from work…..and NO I am NOT taking about the police and fire personnel.  Simply a waste of our money!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Government waste why doesn’t someone sit outside the McCoart building at quitting time and watch how many County owned vehicles are driven to remote locations throughout Prince William County just for the purpose of the employees communing to and from work…..and NO I am NOT taking about the police and fire personnel.  Simply a waste of our money!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74204</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/09/16/stalingrad-on-the-occoquan/#comment-74204</guid>
		<description>How do you figure Mando, like everything else that involves ILLEGAL aliens and their apologists, nothing will be done to them, they are immune from prosecution because, heaven forbid, we actually ENFORCE a law somewhere!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you figure Mando, like everything else that involves ILLEGAL aliens and their apologists, nothing will be done to them, they are immune from prosecution because, heaven forbid, we actually ENFORCE a law somewhere!!!</p>
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