Ya, their way is to make it no longer illegal to be illegal.

What about it?

I agree that is the problem. I’m not sure of who you mean, when you say “they are”, but coming up with new laws is not needed, as our Federal Government will just not enforce those new laws.

This whole “immigration reform” language is BS. The only thing that would have changed is that illegals would have gained amnesty.

This is what you said… We can easily sat that about many laws. It is workable if we had people in position that wanted to enforce the law, rather than ignore it and make excuses for why we need to come up with new laws that will not be enforced either. The law is fine, it is the people in charge that need to be changed.

The current federal immigration regime is an unworkable mess that ensures neither security nor economic benefit. I am puzzled by your fondness for it. Unworkable, harmful laws degrade respect for laws generally and need to be fixed.

How is cheating the system and benefiting from it a conservative value? How do we know every illegal is not a criminal? Are you saying you trust people who steal, make, and or buy fake IDs to be honest about not committing a crime?

This is not about Citizens, this is about illegals, people who do not belong here.

And, oh, ya, I know you support illegals and do not consider them to be law breakers, but no matter how many times you say it they are law breakers. All of them need to be deported. End of story.

Funny how you say you dislike personal attacks, yet on many occasions you have lodged personal attacks against me.

I am fond of laws and enforcing laws. It seems we have laws against drunk driving, does it stop everyone from doing it? No. But according to you we should get rid of drunk driving laws because they do not work.

We have laws against murder, does that stop people from murdering? Nope. But, according to you, we should get rid of laws against murder because they do not work.

We have a friendly immigration policy. We accept a couple of million immigrants a year. We should not accept illegals who do not have a respect for the law.

Of course, going back to your other positions, I have no objection to illegal immigrants returning voluntarily to their home countries. I also favor a system that screens out criminals who would pose a danger to public safety (and please don’t give me that circular nonsense about every illegal being a criminal and therefore a danger to society) We’d have to be sure that the economy is not damaged by their loss, but it seems that that could be done by encouraging legal immigrant replacements.

When you’ve been a Republican and conservative public policy wonk as long as I have, one of the things that you get very sensitive to is laws that don’t work or that cause the Nation more harm than good. The current federal immigration regime is an unworkable mess that ensures neither security nor economic benefit. I am puzzled by your fondness for it. Unworkable, harmful laws degrade respect for laws generally and need to be fixed. I have a major problem with politicians who have slept or hid on immigration reform in recent years. There are compelling security and economic reasons to move to a system that serves the nation better. The prosperity of the country depends on adopting an immigrant-friendly, but secure, system that attracts the best, brightest and hardest working families from all over the world at all levels of the economy. I can’t see many people here who will man the Welcome Wagon.

My problem with many of the comments on this blog is their failure to discuss the issue intelligently and to resort to personal attacks rather than sound analytical discussion of what is indeed a major policy failure in this country. Greg’s pictures of Chiapas activists with Machetes are funny, but they won’t get the work done on building a system that encourages legal immigration, protects the security of the country and ensures that the United States is not left in the dust by other nations who are doing a better job than we are in attracting immigrants.

THAT’S why it is important for people of intelligence and reason to come together in respectful dialogue to formulate a solution…for all of our sakes.

If you do not support illegals, you would be in favor of having them all leave either by the enforcement of law or on their own. You should not have a problem with this blog or the opinions of those who have come out against illegals. Yet, you do seem to have a problem with both. Hmmm.

AW,

What is the problem. It is against the law, and we have laws that should be enforced. We have people who want the law enforced, and we have people who support child rapists and killers. It seems to me that the only intelligent people are those that support the law.

The excuses the illegals supporters come up with to excuse, dismiss, and or ignore the issues that illegals have on our Country are pretty stupid as well.

CoM: I don’t recall ever supporting illegal immigration. As a conservative of more than 40 years standing, I tend to abhor anything illegal. But the issue isn’t whether one supports “illegal immigration.” The issue is what do you do about millions of illegal immigrants in the country and how do we craft a policy that makes sense for the future.

By the way, CoM, I thought we established long ago that I’m not real keen on child rape and murder. I don’t think my views opposing those things are unusual or rare. In fact, I’d be rather hard put to find anyone who has come out in favor of those particular crimes. Is this a useful way to discuss this issue?

One of the biggest problems that I see with THIS issue right now is that there are far too many people on both sides who refuse to even allow intelligent and respectful dialogue on the subject…it’s their way or the highway. The fact is, there are many facets of the issue and it is highly unlikely that any two people will agree 100% on every one of them.

I happen to know both Dolph and NoVA Scout and, although we do not necessarily agree with each other on every aspect of this issue, I respect their opinion and I most certainly want to hear it. Who was it that said, “Knowledge is power?” The fact is that the issue of illegal immigration will NEVER be resolved as long as people refuse to become people of reason, open to free dialogue and intellectual exchange in the attempt to achieve solutions, not subject to unfettered emotion, to a problem which involves vast numbers of human beings.

It happens that I WANT the issue resolved…and I want to hear the opinion of EVERYONE who is of the same mind (wishing for resolution, that is), regardless of whether they agree with my ideas of how that should be done or not. I don’t happen to consider myself the know all of all things, and I know that there are people on BOTH sides of the issue far more intelligent and insightful than I…and I want to know what they’re thinking. If we try to formulate our opinions in a vacuum, we might just as well be living in either a fascist or a socialist society…and that’s very likely what we’ll get.

Chill man. You pop in here from time to time to be an a$$ which is about the extent of it. AW i can respect, but you are just as bad as them dirtbags on the other site. Dolph change her colors frequently and was pretty upsetting to alot of people it appears that she says whatever the current company she’s with supports. it’s amazing what she’s done on the other site, in a bad way.

I guess your too busy pimping for the obamanation to be busy typing on blogs.

Give it a rest. You support illegals and so did Dolph. You act as if your opinion matters on this issue, when you are defending someone who like you supports child rapists and killers.

Just to give you an example of how you and she operated.

You we can’t get rid of all illegals, but I support the deportation of some illegals. Question to you, exactly how many would you support deporting if they all had criminal records. You… No answer.

Dolph like you got caught playing a silly game, and now, you are attempting to place blame elsewhere.

If you want to be taken seriously, you need to stop playing games, either come out for illegals or come out against them.

You’ve missed the point, entirely, but that’s to be expected.