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Help Save Manassas Thursday

By Greg L | 12 November 2008 | Illegal Aliens, Manassas Park, Manassas City, Prince William County | 42 Comments

Help Save Manassas will have its monthly meeting this Thursday at Manassas City Hall’s Council Chambers, starting at 7:30PM. Joining us (barring some last-minute emergency, which has happened before) we will be briefed by a representative of the Northern Virginia Gang Task Force. Although gang activity is not at all solely related to the unlawful presence of illegal aliens in our community, the membership of several rather troublesome gangs is almost exclusively comprised of illegal aliens. The Virginia State Police estimates that 90% of the membership of MS-13 are illegal aliens, for example, making the fight against illegal immigration and criminal gangs significantly aligned.

This video helps demonstrate this linkage. A day laborer site at Coverstone Drive near Sudley Road is almost co-located with a vacant building that day laborers would hang out at after they’d given up on getting a job that day. Not too surprisingly, the building was trashed and covered with gang graffiti.  I guess some proportion of these day laborers do a little moonlighting.

Come get smart about gangs on Thursday.



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42 Comments

  1. Citizen12 said on 13 Nov 2008 at 1:09 am:
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    A high percentage of gang members are currently illegal, but it will not be long before many are domestically grown. One only needs to look to California over the last few decades and now recently in other states, to see what were in for with this unchecked invasion. In Dallas, TX at Parkland Memorial Hospital alone, over 11,000 births to illegal aliens in 2006.

    The numbers, the cost and the lack of action by our elected officals in D.C. …..

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

  2. Love The USA said on 13 Nov 2008 at 7:19 am:
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    Repeal birthright citizenship!!!!!!!!!

  3. Vigilant1 said on 13 Nov 2008 at 10:05 am:
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    Citizen12 said on 13 Nov 2008 at 1:09 am: Flag comment
    A high percentage of gang members are currently illegal, but it will not be long before many are domestically grown.

    I myself have always maintained that we are in for some bad times. Wait until the second and third generations of these illegals “come on line.” “You ain’t seen anything yet.” Obamas coming amnesty will put an end to this country as we know it today.

  4. Vigilant1 said on 13 Nov 2008 at 10:28 am:
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    Love The USA said on 13 Nov 2008 at 7:19 am: Flag comment
    Repeal birthright citizenship!!!!!!!!!

    The question is HOW! Most of our legislatures won’t even address the subject. Look at Frank Wolf’s record on anchor babys. He has no record on the subject and the same goes for John Warner and Webb. They may have some positive (though few) aspects on illegal immigration but will not touch the anchor baby situation.

    Here is Obama’s solution:
    http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_la_raza/2008/10/29/145550.html

  5. Johnson said on 13 Nov 2008 at 3:41 pm:
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    http://www.dcexaminer.com/local/crime/Illegal_immigrant_shooter_recently_cited_for_carrying_a_concealed_weapon.html

  6. Anchor Baby said on 13 Nov 2008 at 4:27 pm:
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    Repealing birthright citizenship is not the answer. Whats the next step? A Heinlein type future where sufferage is only given after ‘voluntary’ federal service? Licenses are provided to the people to sanction birth’s and grant citizenship to that offspring?

    Let’s be a little realistic about what we want. Which is to say - stem the tide of illegal immigration into this country and fix the immigration system itself.

    When you make laws so intrusive to people that they have no course of action then to break laws we have created ineffectual laws that in turn only rewards the lawless.

  7. Here we Go Again said on 13 Nov 2008 at 4:36 pm:
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    The more I see of this the sicker I get. To think that our grandchildren and their children will not have a chance to see and know what America was and is. It is sad that so many people can;t see this and really bad that the majority of politicals don’t have enough brains to see what is happening.

    We have got to come up with something to SAVE OUR COUNTRY.

    Maybe we can get CandidATES TO Run As Save Our Country,Party and forget the tradition of Repb. & Dem.& Ind.

    SOC Party. Wonder how that would work? May get the wrong idea. But we need something.

  8. Arlington Minority said on 13 Nov 2008 at 5:01 pm:
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    Another MS-13 murder occurred in Montgomery County (Md) committed by 15-year-old illegal, an act that was unprovoked. County and state officials now have the blood of this innocent 14-year-old on their hands.
    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/13/caution-ms-13-at-work/

  9. legal2 said on 13 Nov 2008 at 5:10 pm:
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    Liberalism is a mental disorder according to a leading psychiatrist. “The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.” http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494

  10. citizenofmanassas said on 13 Nov 2008 at 5:20 pm:
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    Anchor,

    Women come here to give birth knowing full well they will be able to stay and not have to pay for the medical costs of giving birth.

    If we remove the birthright, it will stop illegals from doing that. And that is stemming the tide.

  11. Mark in Townes of Ashleigh said on 13 Nov 2008 at 7:05 pm:
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    I hope to be able to make it tonight, still in DC at the moment.

    To those that know me from our “Sunday class” and the Hard Times celebration, I received my “little piece of paper” in the mail last Saturday. Ready to start graffiti patrol.

  12. Anonymous said on 13 Nov 2008 at 10:06 pm:
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    I believe in the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who is born in the United States
    becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the first clause of the 14th amendment of the Constitution.

  13. Honkey Kong said on 14 Nov 2008 at 3:12 am:
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    legal2–Yes those liberals are indeed crazy. How insane to want to help those less fortunate, and to help rehabilitate those who have erred. That’s just nuts!!!! All you really have to do is ask yourself what Jesus would do….OK, bad example, since he was all about helping those less fortunate and trying to rehabilitate those who erred.

  14. Citizen12 said on 14 Nov 2008 at 3:21 am:
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    section 1 states all persons born or naturalized…..which should be understood to mean born to existing citizens or who have become naturalized. But it has been bent and twisted and outright ignored to serve many needs.

    They still have not addressed the fact the 14th amendment was never properly ratified in the first place ( I know ……I am beating a dead horse here)
    The supreme court ruled in 1889 that American Indians, altho born here, were denied “birth right” citizenship. Up until 1952 all naturalization acts written by congress only allowed white people to become naturalized citizens.

    Many countries including the U.S.A. as well a Mexico grant automatic citizenship to children born abroad. In this light how would it be possible to grant duel citizenship to children born to foreign nationals just by the accident of birth?

    I would be hesitant to suggest a repeal of “birth right citizenship” when, after all this time they still have not clearly defined what that may be.

    Not to worry. According to medical science we are a nation plagued by ADD. The next news “flash” will no doubt knock this issue off our radar.

  15. Not4Nothing said on 14 Nov 2008 at 7:59 am:
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    In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), a Chinese man born to parents LEGALLY in the US at the time was granted the right to return to the US after visiting his parents, who had returned to China. There has never been any clarification regarding children born to ILLEGAL ALIENS. It’s time to test it out.

    My big fear at the moment is that BHO & the current Congress will shove an amnesty through and keep extended family reunification - aka chain migration - going. In one fell swoop we will have likely doubled the size of the underclass, which will double the number of people legally able to make demands on governmental goods and services. Moreover, once done, you can’t go back and correct it. You can’t repeal people.

  16. Anonymous said on 14 Nov 2008 at 8:19 am:
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    Not4Nothing,
    Your big fear that Obama and the current congress will shove amnesty through would have most likely and even more likely would have happened if McCain had been elected.

  17. TedKennedysSwimInstructor said on 14 Nov 2008 at 8:23 am:
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    Janitor (Illegal Alien) charged with secretly recording women in Stamford train station bathroom Stamford man facing at least 16 voyeurism charges

    STAMFORD, CT - A janitor at the Stamford train station was charged Thursday with secretly videotaping at least 16 women in a bathroom stall with a cell phone taped to a roll of toilet paper.

    Felicitos Gonzalez, 41, of 1 Division St., Apartment R, Stamford, was arrested by Metropolitan Transportation Authority police at his home a block away from the train station Wednesday.

    Gonzalez was arraigned on 16 counts of voyeurism at state Superior Court in Stamford Thursday.

    Judge Barbara Brazzel-Massaro ruled that Gonzalez, a Mexican native working in the country illegally, will be jailed in lieu of $50,000 bond for the Class D felony.

    Gonzalez’ defense attorney Howard Ehring said his client had little chance, if any of raising the money

    A court translator reviews information for Felicitos Gonzalez during his arraignment on voyeurism charges Thursday at state Superior Court in Stamford. (Dru Nadler/Staff photo)to bond out.
    Gonzalez’ arrest by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority came after a 21-year-old woman used the ladies bathroom near the Dunkin’ Donuts on the main floor of the train station late in the evening on Nov. 1, Gonzalez’ arrest warrant says.

    When the woman picked her book bag up off the floor, she tipped over a red plastic waste basked that contained five or six toilet paper rolls, she told police. As she picked up the rolls to place them back in the basket, one of the rolls felt heavy and started to beep, the warrant states.

    “I ripped the toilet paper off of the roll and noticed that a camera phone had been taped to the roll. I turned the camera around and looked at the screen and noticed that it was recording the

    bathroom stall,” she said in her witness statement to the MTA.
    The woman then got on the 11:30 p.m. train to Grand Central Station. Along the way she began looking at the recordings on the phone and found a video clip of a male Hispanic man wearing a green shirt as he set the phone into a stationary position and placed toilet rolls around it, the warrant said.

    The woman also saw recordings of two other women going to the bathroom before turning off the phone, the warrant said.

    Two days later the woman reported the camera to a police officer at a road job and he told her to call MTA police. That same day on Nov. 3 she talked to MTA Detective Sean Connolly about the phone and turned over the phone, which still had toilet paper taped around it, according to the warrant.

    The next day a property manager for Fusco Management, which runs the train station, reviewed the video recordings and identified Gonzalez as the Hispanic man pictured on the camera phone.

    Gonzalez, has for the past seven months worked for Suburban Contract Cleaning, a subcontractor hired by Fusco to clean and maintain the station.

    Gonzalez has been in Connecticut for seven years according to the state bail commissioner and was identified by Sprint/Nextel as the phone’s subscriber, the affidavit said. Inside the phone, authorities found three video files each two hours long.

    In each of the videos Gonzalez is clearly seen cutting up pieces of toilet paper and taping the paper around the lens of the camera phone. He is then seen sitting down on the toilet seat to check the view on the phone screen, the affidavit said.

    In reviewing the video recordings, Connolly saw 16 women enter the stall, pull down their pants and sit on the toilet seat, the affidavit said.

    It is not clear when the recordings were made.

    MTA Police Sgt. John Rizzitelli said, “We knew almost immediately he was one of the station cleaners… He denied it.”

    Police on Wednesday also seized a home computer from Gonzalez’ bedroom which is being analyzed for further images at the Connecticut State Police Crime Lab in Meriden.

    The U.S. Immigration, Customs, & Enforcement Agency was notified about the case, due to Gonzalez’ immigration status.

    Gonzalez is no longer working at the train station, Jason Fascella, Fusco’s property manager at the station said, referring further questions to Fusco’s headquarters and the DOT.

    DOT spokesman Judd Everhart praised the MTA Police for making the arrest.

    “The MTA Police are to be commended for quick action on these allegations of outrageous criminal behavior,” Everhart said. “Connecticut commuters expect and deserve safe, clean conditions at every location.”

    In both Stamford and Bridgeport, Fusco subcontracts for various services, including cleaning and parking tasks, DOT Spokesman Kevin Nursick said.

    In 2007, Fusco received about $2.5 million to manage the Stamford station, including the cost of the subcontractors, Nursick said.

    The DOT requires that all firms doing business with it follow state and federal employment and immigration laws, Nursick said.

    Stamford is the busiest station on the Metro North New Haven Line after Grand Central, with an average of 4,300 getting off the train there each day - 2,500 coming from other points in Connecticut and 1,800 from New York - during the morning rush.

    http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/ci_10972349

  18. Not4Nothing said on 14 Nov 2008 at 8:46 am:
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    Anonymus 8:19, I agree with you. Both presidential candidates were bad on this issue. However, with things as they are, I suspect we’ll get the Ted Kennedy Memorial Amnesty bill from the Democrats whether or not Kennedy is still around. And we’ll likely get it the first year because they’ll hope we’ll forget all about it by 2010 if they are successful in passing it. They may not be successful, however.

  19. Anchor Baby said on 14 Nov 2008 at 8:55 am:
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    CoM,

    Are you sure that’s true? My understanding is that ICE would remove the illegal and new born citizen until the child reached the age of 18 where s/he could re-enter the US and apply for thier families to come into the US as well as apply for citizenship?

    Am I understanding the process incorrectly?

  20. Honkey Kong said on 14 Nov 2008 at 10:50 am:
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    citizen12: That assertion that the 14th Amendment wasn’t ratified is one of those “fun fact” assertions that’s completely and utterly wrong, and serves only to make its advocates looks stupid.

    By 21 July 1868, 28 states had ratified it, even if you discount Ohio and New Jersey. And by 2003, every single state had ratified it.

    Quit spreading lies.

  21. Arlington Minority said on 14 Nov 2008 at 11:22 am:
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    Anchor baby citizen rights is a moot point in Dallas, where the school district still routinely issues fraudulent social security number to illegals to allow their enrollment, despite having been asked by the state to stop this practice four years ago. Such infractions are totally unnecessary in the Arlington schools, which gives the highest priority to how many illegals it can accommodate. Don Pepe Tejada is said to have educated more Salvadorians in Arlington than the government of El Salvador has in that country.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/111408dnmetdisdsocials.3d93dbc.html

  22. Flavius Maximus said on 14 Nov 2008 at 11:38 am:
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    This is insanity:

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/111408dnmetdisdsocials.3d93dbc.html

  23. Pat.Herve said on 14 Nov 2008 at 1:20 pm:
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    and McCain was born in Panama.

    and Reagan did an amnesty thing years ago.

    and the illegal immigrant migration got into high gear during the past 8 years.

    and many many emplorers took advantage of them, but reducing my earning wage.

    and Obama and McCain did not differ by much on immigration

    and we still do not have a border fence in place

    Our leaders WANT illegal immigrants - it forms a base of cheap labor that can be exploited - just look at tysons foods, the meat plan out west, the home builders (we knew nothing, we outsourced). Our leaders do not want to stop it, as they are worried about what it might do to our economy.

  24. Vigilant1 said on 14 Nov 2008 at 1:35 pm:
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    Pat.Herve said on 14 Nov 2008 at 1:20 pm: Flag comment

    Just wait until this mass of uneducated and unskilled humanity estimated at 20 million plus is legalized. EVERYONE then will see what it will have cost this country and it’s legal citizens. You think Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid are hurting now, just wait. You ain’t seen anything yet!
    Their legalization will encourage MORE of theunskilled and uneducated to cross our borders. In 20 years we will have the same situation as we have now. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

  25. Vigilant1 said on 14 Nov 2008 at 1:40 pm:
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    Flavius Maximus said on 14 Nov 2008 at 11:38 am: Flag comment
    This is insanity:

    The problem is that no one gives a rat’s a$$. If they did, the Department of Justice would be down their in a hearbeat investigating. I have heard from others that there are some Texas school systems that run school busses across the border to pick up illegal students and then bring them back after school. Isn’t that NICE!

  26. Vigilant1 said on 14 Nov 2008 at 1:45 pm:
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    Pat.Herve said on 14 Nov 2008 at 1:20 pm: Flag comment
    and McCain was born in Panama.

    At a U.S. Government facility which is recognized as soveign U.S. territory. As is a U.S. Embassy.

  27. Johnson said on 14 Nov 2008 at 2:41 pm:
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    Anchor Baby-

    The idea of service to one’s country in return for certain privileges already exists. The G.I. Bill and VA loans, for example. A citizen does, indeed, take personal responsibility for the body politic. A civilian merely exisits within it, reaping the benefits without making any sacrifices. That is exactly what illegal aliens do; take advantage of our society’s generosity without any contribution on their part. Repeal the 14th amendment and stop cutting our own throats. Compulsory service as a path to citizenship. Only citizens should have the right to vote. We can no longer afford to be the World’s doormat. There are too many people and too few resources.

  28. Johnson said on 14 Nov 2008 at 3:03 pm:
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111302457.html

    Every single citizen of Montgomery County should be sure to thank Ike for spending money on illegal aliens instead of county services. This knuckehead should be in jail. Next, he’ll be whining to be bailed out by the Feds!

  29. Ted said on 14 Nov 2008 at 3:19 pm:
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    The ORIGINAL purpose of the 14th Amendment was to ensure that former slaves and their children were given full citizenship, not to give citizenship to anyone whose mother happened to be in the U.S. at the time he/she was born.

    Anyone who advocated giving citizenship to everyone born on U.S. territory would have been laughed out of Congress when the amendment was being considered.

  30. Anchor Baby said on 14 Nov 2008 at 4:52 pm:
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    Johnson,

    You said:

    The idea of service to one’s country in return for certain privileges already exists. The G.I. Bill and VA loans, for example. A citizen does, indeed, take personal responsibility for the body politic. A civilian merely exisits within it, reaping the benefits without making any sacrifices. That is exactly what illegal aliens do; take advantage of our society’s generosity without any contribution on their part. Repeal the 14th amendment and stop cutting our own throats. Compulsory service as a path to citizenship. Only citizens should have the right to vote. We can no longer afford to be the World’s doormat. There are too many people and too few resources.

    But, there are no requirements upon a citizen of this nation to serve in the military or to be employed by or volunteer for federal service. That’s the point that I’m making - that with Heinlein there were two classes of people; citizens and non-citizens. Citizens had rights and privledges where as non-citizens were treated more like cattle.

    I don’t think that’s where we want to take this nation.

    Now, if your saying that military or federal service is a path for non-citizens to take in order to apply for citizenship. I’m all for that! Two of the salvadorian Marines that I’ve had the pleasure to work with obtained thier citizenship based on thier service. If you are willing to train, work for, and possibly sacrifice your life for a country that you are not even a citizen of - yes I believe you should be put to the front of the line and obtain citizenship. If thats the point your making, I agree with you.

    If however your saying thats the ONLY path available to everyone - that I completely disagree with.

    In terms of one comment that you made I agree with you that one of the reasons that illegals come into this country are because of the ample benefits that are provided to people. I believe that those programs should be eliminated entirely. If you eliminate the incentive for people to remain poor or to be poor and immigrate to this country you don’t encourage illegal immigration. Welfare for citizens and non-citizens should be stopped.

    Let’s look at this issue in terms of supply and demand and tackle supply (eliminate social programs) so that demand is terminated.

  31. Johnson said on 14 Nov 2008 at 5:02 pm:
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    AB-

    Agreed!

  32. citizenofmanassas said on 14 Nov 2008 at 5:37 pm:
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    Anchor baby,

    If that was the case, illegals would stop coming here to give birth.

  33. chicko said on 14 Nov 2008 at 7:58 pm:
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    Ted,

    Correct! the 14th applied to slaves. That’s what the founding fathers intended it to apply to, not illegals. I shudder to think about what our founding fathers would think if we could transport them here today to see the mess that was created from the 14th’s interpretation. They are probably rolling in their graves already.

    I’m all for servicemen getting citizenship, they should go to the head of the line. If they have served us, then it’s only fair we should serve them back in kind. American citizenship is important to me and should be to everyone else. It’s the highest honor and should not be given away freely (i.e. no amnesty)

  34. BothgPartiesColludeAgainstUsAndMarketToYourFears said on 14 Nov 2008 at 8:28 pm:
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    This Montgomery County story really needs a thread - they let an MS-13 member here illegally who they had on a weapons charge loose … then he shoots up a bus and kills a teenager … and by now his gang buddies have his safe and sound well out of the country.

    Way to go Montgomery County … http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/10/AR2008111001898.html

  35. AWCheney said on 14 Nov 2008 at 9:37 pm:
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    Anchor Baby said on 13 Nov 2008 at 4:27 pm

    I have to agree with Anchor Baby, with one addition. When my parents (immigrants) became naturalized citizens, I automatically achieved dual citizenship and had until I was 21 to become a full citizen of the US by denouncing that dual citizenship. Of course the age of majority has dropped to 18 now, but I see no reason why these children should not be held to the same standard. If they refuse to denounce their dual citizenship, then they SHOULD lose the right for full citizenship…particularly the right to vote.

    What do you think, Anchor Baby…does that sound logical and reasonable?

  36. Anchor Baby said on 14 Nov 2008 at 11:48 pm:
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    AWCheney,

    100% agree. Pick one. You’re American or your not. I also *hate* the label latin-american that people place on me. I’m an American, plain and simple.

    I have sworn an oath to this country in serving in our state militia and I swore to protect our nations secrets in my day job.

    So, I don’t see someone having to renounce thier secondary citizenship as gross, unfair, biased, or unconstitutional.

    Besides, to me the logic is sound. Why *would* someone want to have a citizenship other than that of the USA? We are by far the best nation on this planet.

  37. info said on 15 Nov 2008 at 12:49 am:
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    Prostitution Arrest

    On 11-13-08, at approximately 9:15 p.m., Detectives from the Prince William County Police Street Crimes Unit investigated a suspicious activity complaint at a hotel located in the 10700 block of Battleview Parkway in Manassas . The investigation revealed that two women were conducting an illicit business from two hotel rooms. The women and one man were identified and charged.

    Arrested

    Anna Villalobos Martinez
    20-years-old
    21 Lyon Place, Apartment # 3, Elizabeth , New Jersey.
    charged with Maintaining a Bawdy Place , Prostitution. In addition an immigration detainer was placed. Martinez is from Colombia . Martinez was held on $5,000 bond and she has a scheduled court date of 12-17-08.

    Nikauri Rivero
    26-years-old
    10000 New York Avenue, Union City , New Jersey.
    charged with Maintaining a Bawdy Place , Prostitution, Providing False Identification on a Law Enforcement Officer. In addition an immigration detainer was placed. Rivero is a from Dominican Republic . Rivero was held on $7,500 bond and she has a scheduled court date of 12-17-08.

    Jose Rivas-Obando
    24-years-old
    6352 Palmetto Place, Centreville , Virginia.
    Charged with two counts of Frequenting a Bawdy Place . Rivas-Obando was released on two summonses. He has a court date of 12-17-08.

  38. Anon said on 15 Nov 2008 at 2:34 am:
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    Apparently chicko thinks the “Founding Fathers” crafted the 14th amendment, an amendment written in 1866. It is lucky, one imagines, that chicko is American born and doesn’t have to take any kind of civics test for citizenship.

  39. Citizen12 said on 15 Nov 2008 at 2:55 am:
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    citizen12: That assertion that the 14th Amendment wasn’t ratified is one of those “fun fact” assertions that’s completely and utterly wrong, and serves only to make its advocates looks stupid…….

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    Honkey,

    Not wrong at all. The record of how a corrupt reconstructionist legislature illegally “declaired” this ratified back in 1868 is a matter of both public and congressional record.

    Here are just 2

    http://www.civil-liberties.com/cases/14con.html

    http://www.barefootsworld.net/14uncon.html

    perhaps with a greater understanding of the reconstruction, Andrew Johnson and the requirments of the southern states to rejoin the union you would not consider these “fun facts”.

  40. Wolverine said on 15 Nov 2008 at 4:05 am:
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    The two additional suspects in the Montgomery County, MD, bus killing by an MS-13 kid were just arrested in Houston, Texas, on board a public bus. How’s that for irony? At least this pair didn’t make it back to the border.

  41. chicko said on 15 Nov 2008 at 8:31 am:
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    anon,

    I would consider anyone who drafted an amendment to the constitution, the highest law in the land, a founding father. if you want to argue civics, name the time and place and we’ll get together. I’ve always felt personal meetings are best. Let’s see what a coward you really are!

    again, you and your ilk play on semantics

    go back home please, I wouldnt be surprised if you have to cross a border (or two) on your way

  42. DPortM said on 16 Nov 2008 at 8:27 am:
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    Mark in Townes of Ashleigh -

    Congrats on your new piece of paper! Sorry we missed you on Thursday.

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