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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78807</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78807</guid>
		<description>BothPartiesDoColludeAgainstYouAndMarketToYourFears said on 5 Dec 2008 at 8:52 am: Flag comment 
This is off topic but let me ask. Verizon or some of their subcontractors are on my corner right now preparing to dig for putting down FIOS lines.

It’s obvious the crew is largely illegal.

Is there a best place to raise hell about this with? I’d like to target my anger towards effective channels.

Approach the gringo supervisor of this group and confont him with the question - are there illegal aliens working in this group.  If he refuses to answer, ask for his supervisor's name and inform him you will take it to the highest levels to get a true answer.  Watch them scatter  especially if some of the  suspected illegals speak english.  Say you will call ICE if necessary to get an answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BothPartiesDoColludeAgainstYouAndMarketToYourFears said on 5 Dec 2008 at 8:52 am: Flag comment<br />
This is off topic but let me ask. Verizon or some of their subcontractors are on my corner right now preparing to dig for putting down FIOS lines.</p>
<p>It’s obvious the crew is largely illegal.</p>
<p>Is there a best place to raise hell about this with? I’d like to target my anger towards effective channels.</p>
<p>Approach the gringo supervisor of this group and confont him with the question - are there illegal aliens working in this group.  If he refuses to answer, ask for his supervisor&#8217;s name and inform him you will take it to the highest levels to get a true answer.  Watch them scatter  especially if some of the  suspected illegals speak english.  Say you will call ICE if necessary to get an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Vigilant1</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78806</link>
		<dc:creator>Vigilant1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78806</guid>
		<description>But locally, factors from a high demand for hospitality workers for the upcoming inauguration to the difficulty of returning home seem to be keeping immigrants here.


That, and the fact they are counting on a "total" amnesty is keeping them here.  The figure it is just a mater of time (a short time at that) that OBAMARAMA will come out with his amnesty play and try to push it down the throats of the American population.  Just look at the high government position that OB appointed the vice-president of LA RAZA to last week!
Amnesty is on the ajenda for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But locally, factors from a high demand for hospitality workers for the upcoming inauguration to the difficulty of returning home seem to be keeping immigrants here.</p>
<p>That, and the fact they are counting on a &#8220;total&#8221; amnesty is keeping them here.  The figure it is just a mater of time (a short time at that) that OBAMARAMA will come out with his amnesty play and try to push it down the throats of the American population.  Just look at the high government position that OB appointed the vice-president of LA RAZA to last week!<br />
Amnesty is on the ajenda for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78791</link>
		<dc:creator>BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78791</guid>
		<description>And it's only a problem for them if you won't reflexively pull the voting lever for them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s only a problem for them if you won&#8217;t reflexively pull the voting lever for them</p>
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		<title>By: Pat.Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78787</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat.Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78787</guid>
		<description>talk to Mitt Romney - he even spoke spanish to his illegal immigrant house labors.

What most of us do not get, is that they (your gov;t and big business) do not want to fix illegal immigration - they do not see it as a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talk to Mitt Romney - he even spoke spanish to his illegal immigrant house labors.</p>
<p>What most of us do not get, is that they (your gov;t and big business) do not want to fix illegal immigration - they do not see it as a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78781</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78781</guid>
		<description>Sure.  She was in a position of National Security was charged as part of her job to keep illegals out of the Country, and she not only abused her position, she encouraged illegals to stay.  Who is to say that a relative of one of those illegals could not have been a terrorist who benefited from this?  

Once you start to provide shelter, or breaks for illegals, you open yourself up to blackmail and other actions that can jeopardize National Security.    So, in my opinion the DP is justified in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure.  She was in a position of National Security was charged as part of her job to keep illegals out of the Country, and she not only abused her position, she encouraged illegals to stay.  Who is to say that a relative of one of those illegals could not have been a terrorist who benefited from this?  </p>
<p>Once you start to provide shelter, or breaks for illegals, you open yourself up to blackmail and other actions that can jeopardize National Security.    So, in my opinion the DP is justified in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78775</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78775</guid>
		<description>citizenofmanassas, you honestly believe that the death penalty is the appropriate legal punishment in the above case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>citizenofmanassas, you honestly believe that the death penalty is the appropriate legal punishment in the above case?</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen12</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78758</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78758</guid>
		<description>A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a "conference" at the U.S. Supreme Court.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=81484

This conference was set for today Dec 5. Any info on the outcome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama&#8217;s name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a &#8220;conference&#8221; at the U.S. Supreme Court.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=81484" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=81484</a></p>
<p>This conference was set for today Dec 5. Any info on the outcome?</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78756</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78756</guid>
		<description>This is the type of story that drives me crazy.  This lady should be put to death for her crimes.  She was placed in a positive of National Security and abused her powers.  She placed the entire Nation at risk, and for that she should receive the death penalty.   


http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=104&#38;sid=1539215</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the type of story that drives me crazy.  This lady should be put to death for her crimes.  She was placed in a positive of National Security and abused her powers.  She placed the entire Nation at risk, and for that she should receive the death penalty.   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=104&amp;sid=1539215" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=104&amp;sid=1539215</a></p>
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		<title>By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78754</link>
		<dc:creator>BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78754</guid>
		<description>Elitist of the Day - Lorraine Henderson

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/12/new_england_bor.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed2

The regional director of Homeland Security, Customs, and Border Protection was charged today with repeatedly hiring illegal immigrants to clean her Salem home after one cleaner wore a wire during an undercover investigation. 
...
"You have to be careful 'cause they will deport you. Be careful," Henderson told the housekeeper in a conversation Sept. 9, 2008, that was recorded on the wire. "Wow, wow, if you leave they won't let you back … you can't leave, don't leave … 'cause once you leave you will never be back." 

Now how about a raid on Nancy Pelosi's vineyard?  Or is that too much to ask for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elitist of the Day - Lorraine Henderson</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/12/new_england_bor.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed2" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/12/new_england_bor.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed2</a></p>
<p>The regional director of Homeland Security, Customs, and Border Protection was charged today with repeatedly hiring illegal immigrants to clean her Salem home after one cleaner wore a wire during an undercover investigation.<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8220;You have to be careful &#8217;cause they will deport you. Be careful,&#8221; Henderson told the housekeeper in a conversation Sept. 9, 2008, that was recorded on the wire. &#8220;Wow, wow, if you leave they won&#8217;t let you back … you can&#8217;t leave, don&#8217;t leave … &#8217;cause once you leave you will never be back.&#8221; </p>
<p>Now how about a raid on Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s vineyard?  Or is that too much to ask for.</p>
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		<title>By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78753</link>
		<dc:creator>BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78753</guid>
		<description>junes I'm not sure.  I'll be here again early next week and I'll try to see what I can figure out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>junes I&#8217;m not sure.  I&#8217;ll be here again early next week and I&#8217;ll try to see what I can figure out.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat.Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78752</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat.Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78752</guid>
		<description>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 - who is the responsible party to validate the credentials of a Presidential Candidate (or President Elect)?

Surely there must be a government body that is responsible.  Did you know that George Romney (Mitt's Dad) was born in Mexico?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/\/\3|)iç 64 - who is the responsible party to validate the credentials of a Presidential Candidate (or President Elect)?</p>
<p>Surely there must be a government body that is responsible.  Did you know that George Romney (Mitt&#8217;s Dad) was born in Mexico?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert L. Duecaster</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78751</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert L. Duecaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78751</guid>
		<description>Medic's and BothParties' points are well taken and I tend to agree.  However, if an illegal alien came to me and explained he/she would go back to his homeland if only he had the means to get there, I probably would help him/her out with a bus ticket at least to the border of their choice.  I guess I'm just a little kind-hearted in some respects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medic&#8217;s and BothParties&#8217; points are well taken and I tend to agree.  However, if an illegal alien came to me and explained he/she would go back to his homeland if only he had the means to get there, I probably would help him/her out with a bus ticket at least to the border of their choice.  I guess I&#8217;m just a little kind-hearted in some respects.</p>
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		<title>By: junes_reston</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78750</link>
		<dc:creator>junes_reston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78750</guid>
		<description>BothPartiesDoColludeAgainstYouAndMarketToYourFears said on 5 Dec 2008 at 8:52 am: Flag comment 
This is off topic but let me ask. Verizon or some of their subcontractors are on my corner right now preparing to dig for putting down FIOS lines.

It’s obvious the crew is largely illegal.

Is there a best place to raise hell about this with? I’d like to target my anger towards effective channels...........................

Verizon "Fiber" is in NJ.  I can't remember the guy's name, but he came down for a couple a days to "see for himself" that Ivy was picking up illegals in Vienna and taking them to the sites.   A few Ivy contractors were sacked the next morning. 

According to Verizon no one is allowed to work on any Verizon project without first going through a safety course - that includes contractors. 

If you call Customer Service, they should be able to forward you to the right person.  

Just as a curiosity - was the contractor Ivy or the other one?  

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BothPartiesDoColludeAgainstYouAndMarketToYourFears said on 5 Dec 2008 at 8:54 am: Flag comment 
The County gave these guys permission to dig I would think? Does anyone know a best way to raise this issue with the County?

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The County has no say - that land is Verizon Right-of-Way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BothPartiesDoColludeAgainstYouAndMarketToYourFears said on 5 Dec 2008 at 8:52 am: Flag comment<br />
This is off topic but let me ask. Verizon or some of their subcontractors are on my corner right now preparing to dig for putting down FIOS lines.</p>
<p>It’s obvious the crew is largely illegal.</p>
<p>Is there a best place to raise hell about this with? I’d like to target my anger towards effective channels&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Verizon &#8220;Fiber&#8221; is in NJ.  I can&#8217;t remember the guy&#8217;s name, but he came down for a couple a days to &#8220;see for himself&#8221; that Ivy was picking up illegals in Vienna and taking them to the sites.   A few Ivy contractors were sacked the next morning. </p>
<p>According to Verizon no one is allowed to work on any Verizon project without first going through a safety course - that includes contractors. </p>
<p>If you call Customer Service, they should be able to forward you to the right person.  </p>
<p>Just as a curiosity - was the contractor Ivy or the other one?  </p>
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<p>BothPartiesDoColludeAgainstYouAndMarketToYourFears said on 5 Dec 2008 at 8:54 am: Flag comment<br />
The County gave these guys permission to dig I would think? Does anyone know a best way to raise this issue with the County?</p>
<p>=============</p>
<p>The County has no say - that land is Verizon Right-of-Way.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78749</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78749</guid>
		<description>Why should we pay for their return in that form?  Let them be and they will get into trouble and be deported.  I do not want to give money to them in that way.  I will let them get deported so it is documented!!  This way if they decide to come back when things are better, they will have that over their head.  Things will get better, not because Obama is in office, but because the bubble has burst and it has to ride out the wave.

BTW,  this is going to be a historic election when they find out that the one doesn't have the right credentials to even be POTUS.  I can hardly wait.  Hopefully it will be before he is sworn in so we do not have to go through the impeachment process.  Guess ole Joe will be POTUS.  He better start getting ready!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should we pay for their return in that form?  Let them be and they will get into trouble and be deported.  I do not want to give money to them in that way.  I will let them get deported so it is documented!!  This way if they decide to come back when things are better, they will have that over their head.  Things will get better, not because Obama is in office, but because the bubble has burst and it has to ride out the wave.</p>
<p>BTW,  this is going to be a historic election when they find out that the one doesn&#8217;t have the right credentials to even be POTUS.  I can hardly wait.  Hopefully it will be before he is sworn in so we do not have to go through the impeachment process.  Guess ole Joe will be POTUS.  He better start getting ready!!</p>
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		<title>By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78747</link>
		<dc:creator>BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78747</guid>
		<description>Well I have them with 90% plus accuracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have them with 90% plus accuracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78746</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78746</guid>
		<description>@BothPartiesCollude:

I sure wish I had magical illegal detecting powers like you do. You're so cool.</description>
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<p>I sure wish I had magical illegal detecting powers like you do. You&#8217;re so cool.</p>
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		<title>By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78744</link>
		<dc:creator>BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78744</guid>
		<description>Might Putty, you need to have earned 3 grand I think to qualify, so you might be out of luck too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might Putty, you need to have earned 3 grand I think to qualify, so you might be out of luck too.</p>
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		<title>By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78743</link>
		<dc:creator>BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78743</guid>
		<description>I think it's 75 grand for individuals - that's what it was last year anyway.

The main reason it bugs me is because they are changing the tax amounts ON THE FLY.  And I think they should cap it at some amount, not give you zero stimulus if you earn over a certain amount which is not really all that much around this area.  A couple making 149,000 gets 1000 back plus 300 per kid, and a couple making 170,000 gets zilch.  Lazty, sloppy, unfair, and of course it was fine with Bush and will be fine with Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s 75 grand for individuals - that&#8217;s what it was last year anyway.</p>
<p>The main reason it bugs me is because they are changing the tax amounts ON THE FLY.  And I think they should cap it at some amount, not give you zero stimulus if you earn over a certain amount which is not really all that much around this area.  A couple making 149,000 gets 1000 back plus 300 per kid, and a couple making 170,000 gets zilch.  Lazty, sloppy, unfair, and of course it was fine with Bush and will be fine with Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78742</link>
		<dc:creator>BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78742</guid>
		<description>They're about to do a bailout of sorts for everyone who makes less than $150,000 per couple, a $1000 giveaway (I forget the limit for individuals).  (Phases down to zero at $170,000).  Which peeves me as my wife and I earn more and will get screwed on that, just like last year, while people who don't even pay any taxes will get money back at all of our expenses and on borrowed money, for the sake of "stimulus".

I believe in progressive taxation but this structure is some lazy BS.  It's like an extra 5% tax rate on income I/we earn after the first 150 grand.

Both Parties are Colluding Against Me ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re about to do a bailout of sorts for everyone who makes less than $150,000 per couple, a $1000 giveaway (I forget the limit for individuals).  (Phases down to zero at $170,000).  Which peeves me as my wife and I earn more and will get screwed on that, just like last year, while people who don&#8217;t even pay any taxes will get money back at all of our expenses and on borrowed money, for the sake of &#8220;stimulus&#8221;.</p>
<p>I believe in progressive taxation but this structure is some lazy BS.  It&#8217;s like an extra 5% tax rate on income I/we earn after the first 150 grand.</p>
<p>Both Parties are Colluding Against Me &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/04/would-you-help/#comment-78741</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent someone back one time.  She was hear on a tourist visa.  About a month before her visa expired, I convinced her to return to her country.  I even paid for the plane ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent someone back one time.  She was hear on a tourist visa.  About a month before her visa expired, I convinced her to return to her country.  I even paid for the plane ticket.</p>
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