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	<title>Comments on: McDonnell Beats Back The Tax Hike</title>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79569</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79569</guid>
		<description>CONVA, education, safety and infrastructure makes up 91% of the state general fund budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONVA, education, safety and infrastructure makes up 91% of the state general fund budget.</p>
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		<title>By: CONVA</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79434</link>
		<dc:creator>CONVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79434</guid>
		<description>The "BRAIN SURGEONS" in Richmond should learn to prioitize.   Education, safety and infrastructure in that order.  If that eats up all the revenue then so be it.  If there is any left over, put it in the rainy day fund and make it impossiblr for the socialists to spend it on anything other than the three above.  Make it known to the kennel kept denizens that the party is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;BRAIN SURGEONS&#8221; in Richmond should learn to prioitize.   Education, safety and infrastructure in that order.  If that eats up all the revenue then so be it.  If there is any left over, put it in the rainy day fund and make it impossiblr for the socialists to spend it on anything other than the three above.  Make it known to the kennel kept denizens that the party is over.</p>
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		<title>By: monticup</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79285</link>
		<dc:creator>monticup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79285</guid>
		<description>Sorry, Herve.  When people stop smoking they live longer.  This means more people growing old and needing medical services.  Most of the medical dollar is spent on the elderly.  So to save money, more people should smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Herve.  When people stop smoking they live longer.  This means more people growing old and needing medical services.  Most of the medical dollar is spent on the elderly.  So to save money, more people should smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79265</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79265</guid>
		<description>Pat,

No, they should not be free.  The tax and spend folks think they can just keep raising taxes and come up with all sorts of revenue forecasts based on those taxes, and that just is not always the case.  So, before the Commonwealth starts to plan future revenues based on a tax, they need to be careful they do not overstate the value of the tax increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>No, they should not be free.  The tax and spend folks think they can just keep raising taxes and come up with all sorts of revenue forecasts based on those taxes, and that just is not always the case.  So, before the Commonwealth starts to plan future revenues based on a tax, they need to be careful they do not overstate the value of the tax increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat.Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79255</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat.Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79255</guid>
		<description>com,

by that logic, we should be giving cig's away for free.  Yes, tobacco and it other products are a big industry, but it DOES harm people, we know it, they know it, yet, we still market it to people.  If increased cig taxes reduces use, I am all for it - knowing that it will lead to some job loss - hopefully job loss in the healthcare arena due to less need due to cigs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>com,</p>
<p>by that logic, we should be giving cig&#8217;s away for free.  Yes, tobacco and it other products are a big industry, but it DOES harm people, we know it, they know it, yet, we still market it to people.  If increased cig taxes reduces use, I am all for it - knowing that it will lead to some job loss - hopefully job loss in the healthcare arena due to less need due to cigs.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79252</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79252</guid>
		<description>Harry,

Do you recall under Clinton the luxury tax that was passed by Congress?  They wanted to tax luxury "big ticket" items such as large boats, etc.  What happened?   People stopped buying those larger boats.   So, while taxes may be needed, there comes a tipping point where people will stop buying as much if the price gets too high for them.   And, that does not help the economy or tax revenues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,</p>
<p>Do you recall under Clinton the luxury tax that was passed by Congress?  They wanted to tax luxury &#8220;big ticket&#8221; items such as large boats, etc.  What happened?   People stopped buying those larger boats.   So, while taxes may be needed, there comes a tipping point where people will stop buying as much if the price gets too high for them.   And, that does not help the economy or tax revenues.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79244</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79244</guid>
		<description>Is this the tax increase of $0.30 on a pack of gigs?  As you are aware the state medicaid bill for smoking caused illnesses is $400 million, so consistent with Republicans belief in user fees the gig tax shold go to about $1.20/pack, don't you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the tax increase of $0.30 on a pack of gigs?  As you are aware the state medicaid bill for smoking caused illnesses is $400 million, so consistent with Republicans belief in user fees the gig tax shold go to about $1.20/pack, don&#8217;t you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: CONVA</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79236</link>
		<dc:creator>CONVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79236</guid>
		<description>RE Pat.Herve:  Then they will tax the sugar content in food, then the fat content in food, then, then, then.  It never stops with socialists until they have control of all the money so they can distribute a little to the kennel kept denizens and keep the remainder for themselves.  Best not endorse ANY TAX INCREASE, and demand the government live within their means just as most Americans do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE Pat.Herve:  Then they will tax the sugar content in food, then the fat content in food, then, then, then.  It never stops with socialists until they have control of all the money so they can distribute a little to the kennel kept denizens and keep the remainder for themselves.  Best not endorse ANY TAX INCREASE, and demand the government live within their means just as most Americans do.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat.Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79229</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat.Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79229</guid>
		<description>raising the taxes on cig's - should have been done years ago.

I would support the loss of jobs due to sales tax increased on cig's - does anyone realize how much money we spend on healthcare related to cig's? and while they are at it, they should ban smoking in restaurants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raising the taxes on cig&#8217;s - should have been done years ago.</p>
<p>I would support the loss of jobs due to sales tax increased on cig&#8217;s - does anyone realize how much money we spend on healthcare related to cig&#8217;s? and while they are at it, they should ban smoking in restaurants.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79227</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79227</guid>
		<description>How much more of a shortage would the Commonwealth have if timmy's brain washing k for everyone program was implemented?   Now timmy wants to cut services, after calling for a major increase in spending last year and the year before.  

As for tax increases, given that we have more liberals living here, more taxes may not be so unpopular as thought.  Just look at what the State of NY is proposing to tax, and you can see why timmy does not mind tax increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much more of a shortage would the Commonwealth have if timmy&#8217;s brain washing k for everyone program was implemented?   Now timmy wants to cut services, after calling for a major increase in spending last year and the year before.  </p>
<p>As for tax increases, given that we have more liberals living here, more taxes may not be so unpopular as thought.  Just look at what the State of NY is proposing to tax, and you can see why timmy does not mind tax increases.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79226</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79226</guid>
		<description>I like the "suspension with pay" option. We called it "days on the beach".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the &#8220;suspension with pay&#8221; option. We called it &#8220;days on the beach&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79225</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79225</guid>
		<description>"he should either be fired"

The usual method of disciplining government workers is suspension with pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he should either be fired&#8221;</p>
<p>The usual method of disciplining government workers is suspension with pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79224</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79224</guid>
		<description>How much would we save if we kicked the illegal aliens out of state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much would we save if we kicked the illegal aliens out of state?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79222</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79222</guid>
		<description>Obamarama said he wanted change.  
Between him and Kaine, that is all we will have left in our pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamarama said he wanted change.<br />
Between him and Kaine, that is all we will have left in our pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79217</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79217</guid>
		<description>I always find it amazing that whenever the subject of budget cuts of as little as 2-3% comes up we are told that we must be prepared for reductions in services.  Not just nice to have services, but services such as police, fire, and education.  

Someone explain to me how a 2-3% budget cut in any particular department can result in the reduction of government services.  If an administrator can't do his job with 97% of his budget he should either be fired or the department should be abolished because it is obvious the money is being wasted on what is nothing more than a government jobs program.

In the late 70s when I was in the Army we made do with some pretty severe budget restraints.  It wasn't pretty and it hurt, but we did what we had to do and were still able to get the job done.  

All levels of government need to be able to do the same and should be constantly reminded that it is OUR money they are spending, not theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it amazing that whenever the subject of budget cuts of as little as 2-3% comes up we are told that we must be prepared for reductions in services.  Not just nice to have services, but services such as police, fire, and education.  </p>
<p>Someone explain to me how a 2-3% budget cut in any particular department can result in the reduction of government services.  If an administrator can&#8217;t do his job with 97% of his budget he should either be fired or the department should be abolished because it is obvious the money is being wasted on what is nothing more than a government jobs program.</p>
<p>In the late 70s when I was in the Army we made do with some pretty severe budget restraints.  It wasn&#8217;t pretty and it hurt, but we did what we had to do and were still able to get the job done.  </p>
<p>All levels of government need to be able to do the same and should be constantly reminded that it is OUR money they are spending, not theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyH</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79213</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79213</guid>
		<description>I like that Bolling actually points out a specific thing instead of just hand waving.  He's right about the revenue projections btw.

One other thing to remember when talking about the state budget - about half of state revenues are distributed back to localities.  A lot (I would guess 70%) of that money goes directly to school, police and infrastructure (paving, etc).  

Not a comment or a criticism, just a data point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that Bolling actually points out a specific thing instead of just hand waving.  He&#8217;s right about the revenue projections btw.</p>
<p>One other thing to remember when talking about the state budget - about half of state revenues are distributed back to localities.  A lot (I would guess 70%) of that money goes directly to school, police and infrastructure (paving, etc).  </p>
<p>Not a comment or a criticism, just a data point.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79209</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/17/mcdonnell-beats-back-the-tax-hike/#comment-79209</guid>
		<description>Bill Bolling has also released a statement on this.  In part, it reads:

"I am very concerned by the Governor’s proposal to increase taxes by $167M.  Throughout this process the Governor has repeatedly promised to balance the budget through spending cuts, not tax increases; and it is very disappointing to see him renege on this promise.  The people of Virginia expect their leaders to keep their word, not break their promises.

 

“I am also concerned that the Governor’s tax increases could have a devastating impact on tobacco industry jobs in Southside and the Richmond area.  Given the overall economic slow down, these businesses are already suffering enough, and now is not the time to place additional tax burdens on their shoulders.

 

“I also continue to be concerned that the Governor is basing the budget on overly optimistic revenue projections in the 2009/2010 fiscal year.  At a time when the economy is struggling and state tax collections are declining, the Governor continues to estimate that we will see economic growth of 4% in the upcoming fiscal year.  If we fail to meet these revenue projections, we could face additional budget shortfalls next year.  A more prudent course would be to assume little or no revenue growth in the upcoming fiscal year and adjust state spending accordingly.

 

“To prevent these dramatic shortfalls, provide more accurate revenue projections and solve these problems in the future, we need to pursue real budget reform and increased transparency in the budget process.  I look forward to working with the Governor and the members of the General Assembly to address these concerns, restore fiscal integrity to the budgeting process in Richmond and adopt budget amendments that put our state back on a sound fiscal foundation.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bolling has also released a statement on this.  In part, it reads:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am very concerned by the Governor’s proposal to increase taxes by $167M.  Throughout this process the Governor has repeatedly promised to balance the budget through spending cuts, not tax increases; and it is very disappointing to see him renege on this promise.  The people of Virginia expect their leaders to keep their word, not break their promises.</p>
<p>“I am also concerned that the Governor’s tax increases could have a devastating impact on tobacco industry jobs in Southside and the Richmond area.  Given the overall economic slow down, these businesses are already suffering enough, and now is not the time to place additional tax burdens on their shoulders.</p>
<p>“I also continue to be concerned that the Governor is basing the budget on overly optimistic revenue projections in the 2009/2010 fiscal year.  At a time when the economy is struggling and state tax collections are declining, the Governor continues to estimate that we will see economic growth of 4% in the upcoming fiscal year.  If we fail to meet these revenue projections, we could face additional budget shortfalls next year.  A more prudent course would be to assume little or no revenue growth in the upcoming fiscal year and adjust state spending accordingly.</p>
<p>“To prevent these dramatic shortfalls, provide more accurate revenue projections and solve these problems in the future, we need to pursue real budget reform and increased transparency in the budget process.  I look forward to working with the Governor and the members of the General Assembly to address these concerns, restore fiscal integrity to the budgeting process in Richmond and adopt budget amendments that put our state back on a sound fiscal foundation.”</p>
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