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Slashing The Budget Defecit

By Greg L | 21 December 2008 | Illegal Aliens, Virginia Politics | 17 Comments

Virginia’s unemployment rate, while lower than most of the rest of the country, is still at a higher point than it has ever been in the past ten years according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.  The most recent figures released show that over 180,000 Virginians are out of work.  At the same time, studies by the illegal alien lobby conservatively estimate that 300,000 illegal aliens reside in Virginia.  Their estimates are that half of these illegal aliens do not pay their state or federal income taxes.  If the jobs currently held, unlawfully I might add, by illegal aliens were held by citizens as they should be, it could amount to about $800 million in new tax revenue for the Commonwealth.   What a way to rather significantly close a budget gap.

That’s precisely what Save The Old Dominion is hoping to accomplish this year in the General Assembly by advocating for a requirement that Virginia businesses use the federal E-Verify system to quickly and easily screen potential employees for lawful presence.  Several states have already done this, resulting in a pretty significant decline in unemployment in every case.  During the current recession and budgetary challenges, halting the unlawful employment of cheap illegal alien labor and ensuring that legal workers get those jobs would have some pretty dramatic positive impacts. We could use them.

From the Save The Old Dominion website:

Virginia is suffering from an economic recession, as is the rest of our nation.  This is a difficult time for many Virginia families, too many of which are having great difficulty in making ends meet.  The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that 183,300 Virginians were unemployed in October of 2008, and that number has only increased since then.

At the same time the number of Virginians seeking work is higher than it has been in decades, there are 300,000 illegal aliens believed to be unlawfully residing in the Commonwealth, many of whom are competing with these unemployed citizens in the job market.  Because of lax enforcement of federal law and the profit margins that cheap illegal alien labor makes possible, several employment sectors are nearly dominated by illegal aliens.  While American citizens desperately need these jobs, unscrupulous employers are making them available to foreign nationals who are not legally authorized to be employed.

Ensuring that Virginia employers follow the law would dramatically improve the unemployment situation in Virginia, help Virginian families during difficult economic times, and restore pay scales in the construction trades and in the service industries that have been decimated by illegal alien labor.  We call on the General Assembly to enact legislation requiring that Virginia employers ensure they have a legal workforce and allow Americans to hold the jobs that are legally reserved for Americans.

There is no reason why we should have Virginians out of work while illegal aliens are unlawfully employed in Virginia.

Indeed.  Why would we want to protect the ability of unscrupulous employers to provide jobs to illegal aliens while Virginians are out of work?  That’s a question Senator Stolle and a few others should be answering.  I’m sure their constituents would love to know.



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17 Comments

  1. anon in dale city said on 22 Dec 2008 at 4:26 am:
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    Maybe because unscrupulous employers are very generous campaign contributors.

  2. anon said on 22 Dec 2008 at 6:15 am:
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    I agree that getting rid of the 300,000 illegals would help the unemployment situation. But how many of those 180k are co-located with the 300k who are taking the jobs? People in Petersburg, Norfolk, and especially SW Va can’t necessarily move to where the jobs are.

  3. Pat.Herve said on 22 Dec 2008 at 7:37 am:
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    and can we throw in the cash paying system - I will pay cash to get a discount!.

    When paying cash for a project to a contractor, usually (but not always) this cash does not make it onto the books, thus, no taxes are paid on that money. And this is the empoyer. There are many illegal immigrants that DO pay taxes - it is the employer that does not.

  4. Opinion said on 22 Dec 2008 at 9:54 am:
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    Just curious… I looked at the tax code and did a little math. The people accepting the low paying jobs we are talking about really wouldn’t end up paying taxes anyway. In fact, they would probably end up with an “earned income credit” and actually receive a payment from the Federal Government. A legal resident who files an income tax return on low wages and claims an earned income credit actually COSTS us money. Likewise, people who don’t pay Social Security taxes don’t create the credits necessary to participate in that system either (while a legal resident woule participate and actually COST us money). So… it would appear that illegal immigrants might actually save the Federal Government money by not participating in our tax system.

    The point about unscrupulous employers paying cash and avoiding taxes still stands, but that’s a different problem.

    This isn’t a post supporting illegal immigration or proposing that it is better to deny legal residents jobs in favor of illegal immigrants (it isn’t), its a post asking a question about the logic of the tax arguement. So, what am I missing here?

  5. Anonymous said on 22 Dec 2008 at 11:56 am:
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    Obama is going to take care of the problem with illegal aliens. He is going to make them legal. Have heard from sources that they (illeglas) are moving back into PWC and school enrolement is increasing once again. The resolution really too care of the problem, didn’t it? (sarcasim)

  6. Johnson said on 22 Dec 2008 at 12:55 pm:
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    If somebody wants a job bad enough, they will do whatever is necessary to get one. The illegals move around with the available job market, don’t they?

    http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-va–kainesbigyear1219dec19,0,2918320.story

    Tim Kaine wants to increase the tax on tobacco because of the “burden that smokers place on the health care system”. I wonder how much money Virginia could save if we passed some legislation making it impossible for illegal aliens to work or live here? How much of a burden are they on our health, welfare and educational systems? Being PC is becoming too pricey, folks.

  7. Harry said on 22 Dec 2008 at 2:18 pm:
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    Nail the employers, although Speaker Howell will not allow a bill to nail the employers to be heard in the House of Delegates.

  8. ladyxx said on 22 Dec 2008 at 7:53 pm:
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    And don’t forget about the cost of anchor babies. They are killing the social service system.

  9. A PW County Resident said on 22 Dec 2008 at 9:02 pm:
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    Hey, deficit is spelled with “i” in the second syllable. And by the way, tell Mr. Royce that his post about the death of two good people was noticed by many people in the community. Turning a community tragedy into a political statement was rank. GOOD JOB.

    Greg, I sure hope you didn’t agree with his post on insidenova.com about the deaths in the Smith families and trying to make a statement the second amendment and Principi. It showed Royce’s colors as far as many were concerned.

  10. Greg L said on 22 Dec 2008 at 10:14 pm:
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    I haven’t seen it. I just got into town in the Syracuse, NY for a Christmas visit and am just now giving a cursory check to the comment threads and my inbox. I’d suspect that if Chris Royse wrote it, I’d agree with it, though. What he says might often make some folks mighty uncomfortable, but he’s pretty much been spot on in what he’s been saying.

    I got a real soft spot for Barry Goldwater types that don’t mind pulling out the flamethrower once in a while. They’re my kind of people.

    Dang, I ought to invite Royse as a contributor. He’s wasting his time writing letters to the MJM/News & Messenger, who only recently came to the conclusion that the rule of law is sacrosanct, but will undoubtedly start shilling for poor illegal aliens in short order.

  11. A PW County Resident said on 22 Dec 2008 at 10:26 pm:
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    Greg, I don’t care about the politics of this at this point. I am so glad to find out that you would agree with turning the devastating event of a mother and a son murdered into an attack about Principi. There is a matter of class and appropriateness. Sometimes, you have to put aside petty political arguments.

    But, perhaps if you feel that no matter what he might have said, it is okay, then I hope people see what you stand for. Want to quote a bible verse to justify it? Maybe it is, “life means nothing as long as you get your point across.”

    I am probably more conservative than most about many issues, but it was just surreal to be seeing a politcal hack job like that. So support all you want and people will know how you feel.

  12. Anonymous said on 22 Dec 2008 at 10:50 pm:
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    Off topic, but you can vote for Paul Ebert for Worst Prosecutor of the Year Award.

    http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/22/monday-morning-poll-the-2nd-annual-worst-prosecutor-of-the-year-wopoty-award/

  13. Harry said on 23 Dec 2008 at 8:12 am:
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    Anonymous, I don’t get your continued attacks on Ebert who has sent more people to death row than any prosecutor in VA and possibly in the US.

  14. Greg L said on 23 Dec 2008 at 10:58 am:
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    A PWC Resident, how can I be held responsible for an article I haven’t even read, and then attacked on the basis of that article? Does that make any sense at all?

  15. A1 said on 23 Dec 2008 at 10:59 am:
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    Harry said on 23 Dec 2008 at 8:12 am: Flag comment

    Anonymous, I don’t get your continued attacks on Ebert who has sent more people to death row than any prosecutor in VA and possibly in the US.

    Remember the Bobbits? He brought charges and prosecuted the two seperate cases and lost both of them. How can that be?

  16. Anchor Baby said on 23 Dec 2008 at 3:58 pm:
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    PWC Resident,

    What were the comments? I couldn’t find any using the search tool on insidenova’s website. Can you please cross post or provide the URL?

  17. zuzu said on 26 Dec 2008 at 10:07 pm:
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    To Opinion…
    I get the math you are talking about in reference to the tax code and how keeping the illegals out of the tax system could actually SAVE money IF they’re making so little money. Ok…that makes sense. I just don’t understand how these people who are making so little money are driving around in Lincoln Navigators, H2s, etc. I can’t tell you how many time I see them parked outside of the Dept. of Social Services and 9 out of 10 times..they’re driven by someone of “foreign descent” (we’ll call it) who is applying for OR already receiving assistance. Help me work that out cuz my calculator keeps malfunctioning on that one…or else help me figure out how I can pull it off too. There is a family near me who I THINK are illegal. They are being housed by their employer (i.e., he’s the landlord). There are only 2 adults but they own like 4-5 vehicles which the combined value would be around $145,000.00 worth of cars. By the way, if one suspects that they ARE illegal…how does one go about reporting them (and the employer)? Who do I report to who will actually investigate the situation? I know of one employer in the Gainesville are who had several illegals working as door installers. An ex-employee’s gf who supposedly worked for immigration reported them. To this day…nothing has ever happened. Just curious as to how it’s done….right!!
    Merry Christmas!!
    zuzu

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