Comments on: Slashing The Budget Defecit http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Thu, 24 May 2012 05:41:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: zuzu http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79456 zuzu Sat, 27 Dec 2008 03:07:22 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79456 To Opinion... I get the math you are talking about in reference to the tax code and how keeping the illegals out of the tax system could actually SAVE money IF they're making so little money. Ok...that makes sense. I just don't understand how these people who are making so little money are driving around in Lincoln Navigators, H2s, etc. I can't tell you how many time I see them parked outside of the Dept. of Social Services and 9 out of 10 times..they're driven by someone of "foreign descent" (we'll call it) who is applying for OR already receiving assistance. Help me work that out cuz my calculator keeps malfunctioning on that one...or else help me figure out how I can pull it off too. There is a family near me who I THINK are illegal. They are being housed by their employer (i.e., he's the landlord). There are only 2 adults but they own like 4-5 vehicles which the combined value would be around $145,000.00 worth of cars. By the way, if one suspects that they ARE illegal...how does one go about reporting them (and the employer)? Who do I report to who will actually investigate the situation? I know of one employer in the Gainesville are who had several illegals working as door installers. An ex-employee's gf who supposedly worked for immigration reported them. To this day...nothing has ever happened. Just curious as to how it's done....right!! Merry Christmas!! zuzu To Opinion…
I get the math you are talking about in reference to the tax code and how keeping the illegals out of the tax system could actually SAVE money IF they’re making so little money. Ok…that makes sense. I just don’t understand how these people who are making so little money are driving around in Lincoln Navigators, H2s, etc. I can’t tell you how many time I see them parked outside of the Dept. of Social Services and 9 out of 10 times..they’re driven by someone of “foreign descent” (we’ll call it) who is applying for OR already receiving assistance. Help me work that out cuz my calculator keeps malfunctioning on that one…or else help me figure out how I can pull it off too. There is a family near me who I THINK are illegal. They are being housed by their employer (i.e., he’s the landlord). There are only 2 adults but they own like 4-5 vehicles which the combined value would be around $145,000.00 worth of cars. By the way, if one suspects that they ARE illegal…how does one go about reporting them (and the employer)? Who do I report to who will actually investigate the situation? I know of one employer in the Gainesville are who had several illegals working as door installers. An ex-employee’s gf who supposedly worked for immigration reported them. To this day…nothing has ever happened. Just curious as to how it’s done….right!!
Merry Christmas!!
zuzu

]]> By: Anchor Baby http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79390 Anchor Baby Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:58:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79390 PWC Resident, What were the comments? I couldn't find any using the search tool on insidenova's website. Can you please cross post or provide the URL? PWC Resident,

What were the comments? I couldn’t find any using the search tool on insidenova’s website. Can you please cross post or provide the URL?

]]> By: A1 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79379 A1 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:59:40 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79379 Harry said on 23 Dec 2008 at 8:12 am: Flag comment Anonymous, I don’t get your continued attacks on Ebert who has sent more people to death row than any prosecutor in VA and possibly in the US. Remember the Bobbits? He brought charges and prosecuted the two seperate cases and lost both of them. How can that be? Harry said on 23 Dec 2008 at 8:12 am: Flag comment

Anonymous, I don’t get your continued attacks on Ebert who has sent more people to death row than any prosecutor in VA and possibly in the US.

Remember the Bobbits? He brought charges and prosecuted the two seperate cases and lost both of them. How can that be?

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79377 Greg L Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:58:20 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79377 A PWC Resident, how can I be held responsible for an article I haven't even read, and then attacked on the basis of that article? Does that make any sense at all? A PWC Resident, how can I be held responsible for an article I haven’t even read, and then attacked on the basis of that article? Does that make any sense at all?

]]> By: Harry http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79374 Harry Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:12:16 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79374 Anonymous, I don't get your continued attacks on Ebert who has sent more people to death row than any prosecutor in VA and possibly in the US. Anonymous, I don’t get your continued attacks on Ebert who has sent more people to death row than any prosecutor in VA and possibly in the US.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79373 Anonymous Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:50:42 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79373 Off topic, but you can vote for Paul Ebert for Worst Prosecutor of the Year Award. http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/22/monday-morning-poll-the-2nd-annual-worst-prosecutor-of-the-year-wopoty-award/ Off topic, but you can vote for Paul Ebert for Worst Prosecutor of the Year Award.

http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/22/monday-morning-poll-the-2nd-annual-worst-prosecutor-of-the-year-wopoty-award/

]]> By: A PW County Resident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79372 A PW County Resident Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:26:14 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79372 Greg, I don't care about the politics of this at this point. I am so glad to find out that you would agree with turning the devastating event of a mother and a son murdered into an attack about Principi. There is a matter of class and appropriateness. Sometimes, you have to put aside petty political arguments. But, perhaps if you feel that no matter what he might have said, it is okay, then I hope people see what you stand for. Want to quote a bible verse to justify it? Maybe it is, "life means nothing as long as you get your point across." I am probably more conservative than most about many issues, but it was just surreal to be seeing a politcal hack job like that. So support all you want and people will know how you feel. Greg, I don’t care about the politics of this at this point. I am so glad to find out that you would agree with turning the devastating event of a mother and a son murdered into an attack about Principi. There is a matter of class and appropriateness. Sometimes, you have to put aside petty political arguments.

But, perhaps if you feel that no matter what he might have said, it is okay, then I hope people see what you stand for. Want to quote a bible verse to justify it? Maybe it is, “life means nothing as long as you get your point across.”

I am probably more conservative than most about many issues, but it was just surreal to be seeing a politcal hack job like that. So support all you want and people will know how you feel.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79371 Greg L Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:14:43 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79371 I haven't seen it. I just got into town in the Syracuse, NY for a Christmas visit and am just now giving a cursory check to the comment threads and my inbox. I'd suspect that if Chris Royse wrote it, I'd agree with it, though. What he says might often make some folks mighty uncomfortable, but he's pretty much been spot on in what he's been saying. I got a real soft spot for Barry Goldwater types that don't mind pulling out the flamethrower once in a while. They're my kind of people. Dang, I ought to invite Royse as a contributor. He's wasting his time writing letters to the MJM/News & Messenger, who only recently came to the conclusion that the rule of law is sacrosanct, but will undoubtedly start shilling for poor illegal aliens in short order. I haven’t seen it. I just got into town in the Syracuse, NY for a Christmas visit and am just now giving a cursory check to the comment threads and my inbox. I’d suspect that if Chris Royse wrote it, I’d agree with it, though. What he says might often make some folks mighty uncomfortable, but he’s pretty much been spot on in what he’s been saying.

I got a real soft spot for Barry Goldwater types that don’t mind pulling out the flamethrower once in a while. They’re my kind of people.

Dang, I ought to invite Royse as a contributor. He’s wasting his time writing letters to the MJM/News & Messenger, who only recently came to the conclusion that the rule of law is sacrosanct, but will undoubtedly start shilling for poor illegal aliens in short order.

]]> By: A PW County Resident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79370 A PW County Resident Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:02:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79370 Hey, deficit is spelled with "i" in the second syllable. And by the way, tell Mr. Royce that his post about the death of two good people was noticed by many people in the community. Turning a community tragedy into a political statement was rank. GOOD JOB. Greg, I sure hope you didn't agree with his post on insidenova.com about the deaths in the Smith families and trying to make a statement the second amendment and Principi. It showed Royce's colors as far as many were concerned. Hey, deficit is spelled with “i” in the second syllable. And by the way, tell Mr. Royce that his post about the death of two good people was noticed by many people in the community. Turning a community tragedy into a political statement was rank. GOOD JOB.

Greg, I sure hope you didn’t agree with his post on insidenova.com about the deaths in the Smith families and trying to make a statement the second amendment and Principi. It showed Royce’s colors as far as many were concerned.

]]> By: ladyxx http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79369 ladyxx Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:53:46 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79369 And don't forget about the cost of anchor babies. They are killing the social service system. And don’t forget about the cost of anchor babies. They are killing the social service system.

]]> By: Harry http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79363 Harry Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:18:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79363 Nail the employers, although Speaker Howell will not allow a bill to nail the employers to be heard in the House of Delegates. Nail the employers, although Speaker Howell will not allow a bill to nail the employers to be heard in the House of Delegates.

]]> By: Johnson http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79360 Johnson Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:55:18 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79360 If somebody wants a job bad enough, they will do whatever is necessary to get one. The illegals move around with the available job market, don't they? http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-va--kainesbigyear1219dec19,0,2918320.story Tim Kaine wants to increase the tax on tobacco because of the "burden that smokers place on the health care system". I wonder how much money Virginia could save if we passed some legislation making it impossible for illegal aliens to work or live here? How much of a burden are they on our health, welfare and educational systems? Being PC is becoming too pricey, folks. If somebody wants a job bad enough, they will do whatever is necessary to get one. The illegals move around with the available job market, don’t they?

http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-va–kainesbigyear1219dec19,0,2918320.story

Tim Kaine wants to increase the tax on tobacco because of the “burden that smokers place on the health care system”. I wonder how much money Virginia could save if we passed some legislation making it impossible for illegal aliens to work or live here? How much of a burden are they on our health, welfare and educational systems? Being PC is becoming too pricey, folks.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79359 Anonymous Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:56:21 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79359 Obama is going to take care of the problem with illegal aliens. He is going to make them legal. Have heard from sources that they (illeglas) are moving back into PWC and school enrolement is increasing once again. The resolution really too care of the problem, didn't it? (sarcasim) Obama is going to take care of the problem with illegal aliens. He is going to make them legal. Have heard from sources that they (illeglas) are moving back into PWC and school enrolement is increasing once again. The resolution really too care of the problem, didn’t it? (sarcasim)

]]> By: Opinion http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79353 Opinion Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:54:09 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79353 Just curious... I looked at the tax code and did a little math. The people accepting the low paying jobs we are talking about really wouldn't end up paying taxes anyway. In fact, they would probably end up with an "earned income credit" and actually receive a payment from the Federal Government. A legal resident who files an income tax return on low wages and claims an earned income credit actually COSTS us money. Likewise, people who don't pay Social Security taxes don't create the credits necessary to participate in that system either (while a legal resident woule participate and actually COST us money). So... it would appear that illegal immigrants might actually save the Federal Government money by not participating in our tax system. The point about unscrupulous employers paying cash and avoiding taxes still stands, but that's a different problem. This isn't a post supporting illegal immigration or proposing that it is better to deny legal residents jobs in favor of illegal immigrants (it isn't), its a post asking a question about the logic of the tax arguement. So, what am I missing here? Just curious… I looked at the tax code and did a little math. The people accepting the low paying jobs we are talking about really wouldn’t end up paying taxes anyway. In fact, they would probably end up with an “earned income credit” and actually receive a payment from the Federal Government. A legal resident who files an income tax return on low wages and claims an earned income credit actually COSTS us money. Likewise, people who don’t pay Social Security taxes don’t create the credits necessary to participate in that system either (while a legal resident woule participate and actually COST us money). So… it would appear that illegal immigrants might actually save the Federal Government money by not participating in our tax system.

The point about unscrupulous employers paying cash and avoiding taxes still stands, but that’s a different problem.

This isn’t a post supporting illegal immigration or proposing that it is better to deny legal residents jobs in favor of illegal immigrants (it isn’t), its a post asking a question about the logic of the tax arguement. So, what am I missing here?

]]> By: Pat.Herve http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79349 Pat.Herve Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:37:25 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79349 and can we throw in the cash paying system - I will pay cash to get a discount!. When paying cash for a project to a contractor, usually (but not always) this cash does not make it onto the books, thus, no taxes are paid on that money. And this is the empoyer. There are many illegal immigrants that DO pay taxes - it is the employer that does not. and can we throw in the cash paying system - I will pay cash to get a discount!.

When paying cash for a project to a contractor, usually (but not always) this cash does not make it onto the books, thus, no taxes are paid on that money. And this is the empoyer. There are many illegal immigrants that DO pay taxes - it is the employer that does not.

]]> By: anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79346 anon Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:15:11 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79346 I agree that getting rid of the 300,000 illegals would help the unemployment situation. But how many of those 180k are co-located with the 300k who are taking the jobs? People in Petersburg, Norfolk, and especially SW Va can't necessarily move to where the jobs are. I agree that getting rid of the 300,000 illegals would help the unemployment situation. But how many of those 180k are co-located with the 300k who are taking the jobs? People in Petersburg, Norfolk, and especially SW Va can’t necessarily move to where the jobs are.

]]> By: anon in dale city http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79345 anon in dale city Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:26:02 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/21/slashing-the-budget-defecit/#comment-79345 Maybe because unscrupulous employers are very generous campaign contributors. Maybe because unscrupulous employers are very generous campaign contributors.

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