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Chuck Colgan Votes For Illegal Aliens, Again

By Greg L | 28 January 2009 | 29th VA Senate, Virginia Senate | 33 Comments

Remember when Chuck Colgan told people last election he was going to be tough on illegal immigration?  Guess what folks — he recently voted to provide illegal aliens with preferential in-state tuition rates in SB 1037 even though federal law prohibits providing such benefits.  I guess campaign promises aren’t what they used to be. Of course, this bill patroned by serial miscreant Emmett Hangar sailed right out of the Senate of Virginia on a vote of 31 to 9, demonstrating once again how utterly abysmal the Senate of Virginia is as a result of voters re-electing fools like Chuck Colgan and Emmett Hangar as their representatives.

In order to make this garbage bill a little more appealing, Hangar had to dress it up with a lot of feel-good ornamentation that raises either significant questions about his competence, or questions about his judgment of having idiots in the illegal alien lobby draft his bills for him.  Hangar created a bunch of complete non-issues to address in this legislation that he could use to promote this atrocity, as Virtucon points out:

Aside from the normal objections that are raised to giving illegal immigrants any type of benefits or rights whatsoever, let’s look at the practicality of this bill. First of all, let’s deal with the provisions outlined. As for allowing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants who have served or are serving on active duty in the US military, this shouldn’t be a consideration at all as illegal immigrants cannot serve. In order to serve on active duty one must reside in the United States legally, either as a citizen or through an immigration program. That requirement is a waste of time, ink and paper.

The student must have paid taxes for three years prior to receiving in-state tuition. Acknowledging the fact that all over the country there is a growing trend among illegal immigrants to file taxes to prove their good will and positive intentions, one must wonder how many illegal immigrants have actually risked identifying themselves through the process of tax filing. So…how many students are we really talking about here? This is just more waste of ink, paper and time.

The eagle-eyed Chuck Colgan, who could seemingly divine constitutional problems in requiring Virginia businesses to participate in a federal employment eligibility program apparently missed the clear violation of 8 U.S.C. 1623 in this proposed legislation, distracted by the idea that illegal aliens are somehow serving in the armed forces, or receiving inadequate recognition for paying taxes on illegal labor that was likely facilitated with identity fraud.  This selective perception problem, not unlike his contention that all foreign nationals from El Salvador in the area are legal economic refugees despite us deporting about thirty of them each month for being illegal aliens is deeply troubling.

No doubt when Colgan takes a look at the equally atrocious SB 1436 he’ll think that protecting illegal aliens from questions about their immigration status is a good idea as well.  No other protections exist in Virginia law preventing police officers from asking questions when investigating a crime, but a bunch of legislators including even Morgan Griffith think that it’s a good idea to legally prohibit officers from asking people reporting a crime about their immigration status in every case, rather than let departmental policies to this effect dictate officer conduct.  For the most part officers wouldn’t do that, but there could be some cases when they’d want to.  Instead of letting department policy manage this process, officers could end up getting prosecuted for doing their job when those exceptions are necessary.

What Colgan will almost certainly overlook is that this kind of protection will not extend to any other group of people than suspected illegal aliens.  Officers will still legally be permitted to ask people reporting crimes about whether they’ve participated in any other criminal activity, as long as it’s not violations of federal immigration laws.  You report a crime, and officers can ask you anything, and investigate anything related to a potential crime.  If you’re an illegal alien, you get special protection because the General Assembly can’t stomach the idea that they might be held to the same standards of behavior that apply to citizens.

It’s clearly not just Chuck Colgan who is the problem here, but with such a wide array of enablers in the Senate, including Ken Stolle, Tommy Norment, Walter Stosch, and Richard Stuart in addition to the Dick Saslaw-led elected official’s illegal alien lobby it’s certain that what comes out of the Senate is often going to be a bunch of irresponsible and ludicrous garbage.  It doesn’t help all that much when folks like Dave Albo, Morgan Griffith, Manoli Loupassi and Tom Rust — all patrons of HB 1436 — are working to the same effect in the House, and demonstrating such faithfulness in delivering on their campaign promises to help reduce illegal immigration in the Commonwealth just like Chuck Colgan.

Our elected officials have collectively lost their minds.

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  1. Slick said on 28 Jan 2009 at 1:37 pm:
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    Of course he supports illegals, his own president, the great and benevolent DumbO is an illegal alien himself.

  2. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 28 Jan 2009 at 1:46 pm:
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    Colgan “traingulated” the issue, for sure. As Greg has built this public forum, I hope that he uses it to stay on Colgan’s case.

    I saved a copy of Colgan’s “tough on illegal immigration” mailer if we collectively need a copy. It would make a good illustration to a story like this.

  3. jfk said on 28 Jan 2009 at 2:20 pm:
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    Can’t he just take his millions, hope on a Colgan Air jet, and fly off someplace warm to retire? No mas Chuck, no mas….

  4. Greg L said on 28 Jan 2009 at 2:38 pm:
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    Of course the MJM article on this was headlined “Va. Senate backs bill to restrict tuition benefits for illegal immigrants” (link). Had they ever bothered to look at the bill in question, they might have discovered that we already prohibit in-state tuition rates for illegal aliens and this bill, if passed would now allow it, with some restrictions.

    So much for newspapers being the guardians of truth. It’s bad enough that some elected officials want to redefine black as white, vice as virtue, and perversion as character. Now the mainstream media abandons their responsibility to the public and jumps into this cesspool with both feet.

  5. Robert L. Duecaster said on 28 Jan 2009 at 3:30 pm:
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    Virginia and other states have no monopoly on stupidity in their elected leaders. I attended a luncheon today where Senator Arlen Specter was the guest speaker. During Q&A, I asked him for his view on “immigration reform.” He said we need to finish the 700 mile fence (I guess that means no fence on the rest of the border), “spruce up” our border agents (I guess that means give them shiny buttons on their uniforms), revoke foreign aid to countries that don’t take back their illegals, like Egypt (all 10 of them), and put all “law-abiding and productive undocumented immigrants on a path to citizenship.” I asked a follow-up - “So you believe in rewarding illegal behavior, Senator?” He said we have 12 million “undocumented” and we can’t deport them all, so we’ve got to find them and “document” them. And if I had a better idea, he’d be glad to hear it. I do have better ideas, some of which have been implemented with a degree of success here in PWC, and I’ll be contacting the Senator’s office.

    I suggest you drop Sen Specter a note in snail mail (if you aren’t a constituent, e-mail won’t get to him), and lecture him about how self-deportation works and how you get more of what you reward.

  6. John Galt said on 28 Jan 2009 at 3:55 pm:
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    “Virginia and other states have no monopoly on stupidity in their elected leaders.”

    Nor does Virginia have a monopoly on an ill-informed to down-right ignorant electorate, who keeps returning people like Colgan and Jack Murtha to office, and sacking effective electeds like George Allen. It is true. We deserve the government that we get, becuase “we” put them there, or keep them there.

  7. BothPartiesColludeAgainstUs said on 28 Jan 2009 at 4:03 pm:
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    That’s quite interesting about Spector - and depressing. The GOP is as far in the bag on this issue as the Democratic Party is.

    I’m sure that we’ll have better luck working within the two party system than without it. But too many people here are too eager to vote GOP based on the usual phony b***s*** issues. Until that changes we will be stuck with the usual two-party collusion.

  8. Robert L. Duecaster said on 28 Jan 2009 at 5:00 pm:
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    Both Parties, et.al.:

    A third party may be an option. Unfortunately, such efforts are too often attractions for fringe elements, one-issue zealots, and nut cases. Linden LaRouche is the archetype. I don’t believe a 3d party has had any type of success since Teddy Roosevelt.

    Continuing to work within one party and keeping the issue in front of both the elected leaders and the general population appears to me to be the most workable strategy, for now. Politics is evolution: it takes a long time for perceptible results. Sometimes too long, but we’ve got to take the extended view, as the Founding Fathers did. But like them, the option of abandoning the evolutionary perspective for the revolutionary has always got to be part of your game plan.

  9. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 28 Jan 2009 at 5:11 pm:
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    It’s true that a third party hasn’t had success recently in terms of winning office. However in terms of influencing an election, Nader swung the 2000 election as surely as the sky is blue. And as a result his party swung leftwards at least a little bit.

    Until some prominent Republicans are ready to go so far as to “sabotage” an election or two, I don’t see a change happening from the current status quo. The current status quo, stalemate in the House, is not so bad. But it is somewhat tenuous.

  10. CONVA said on 28 Jan 2009 at 6:15 pm:
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    Third parties have problems fielding viable candidates. One method would be to garner a host of like minded “Americans” and merely establish them as voting bloc without any party affiliation. Then make it known to the two parties that to get the bloc’s thay would have to agree to the tenets of the bloc. Of course the political cretins may vote differently once they are in office but that would ensure they do not get the bloc’s votes next go-around.

  11. redwhitenbloo said on 28 Jan 2009 at 7:32 pm:
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    If illegal immigrants line up to get an education at in-state tuition rates, then who is going to do the jobs Americans won’t do?

  12. lrb said on 28 Jan 2009 at 7:37 pm:
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    Both Senator Colgan and Barker sat in the chambers at a town hall meeting
    and acted concerned about every person present standing up and speaking out about the benefits going towards illegal immigrants and their anchor children. I went through the YEA list and 12 of them are REPUBLICANS!! That is almost half of the vote. On the NO side there were 2 democrats who had enough sense to actually vote the right way. This my fellow Americans is unacceptable in terms of how elected Republicans think about the issues.

  13. rebelreggie said on 29 Jan 2009 at 5:30 am:
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    Can liberals be neutralized?
    It is clear that today’s USA “liberals: are a danger to the USA.
    What can be done to neutralize this danger?
    Many “liberals” are merely ignorant, but they endanger us all by voting for corrupt politicians who lie to them. The corrupt politicians are free to sell out to special interest groups. The politicians know the extremely ignorant liberals are too ignorant to even realize the politicians lie to them. These ignorant liberals continue to vote for the same lying politicians over and over.
    Equally as dangerous are the fewer intelligent “liberals.” These liberals are liars. They sink to lying, distorting the news and anything else to try and hide the truth from the ignorant liberals. While few in number, they furiously spread the cancer of liberal lies.

    The USA can not long survive if ignorant voters decide elections.
    One thing we can all do is to try and educate the ignorant liberals, but this will not solve the problem.
    Many ignorant liberals are proud of their ignorance.

    Other ignorant liberals are easily persuaded by the intelligent liberals who twist the news and lie.

    Does anyone have a plan for saving the USA from going down the drain with the USA most ignorant and deceitful citizens? The future of the USA depends on stopping ignorant liberals.

  14. rebelreggie said on 29 Jan 2009 at 6:08 am:
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    Friends of ALIPAC,

    We are pleased to announce the launch of a new project that has been in the works for several months!

    Today we are launching a new website called End Illegal Immigration found at www.EndIllegalImmigration.com

    ALIPAC currently controls and manages 14 websites and this will bring our total to 15.

    This new site is designed to be highly visible on the Internet and to provide condensed information which conveys much of what we have learned, while building the largest archive of information in existence on the topic of illegal immigration at our home site www.alipac.us

    We need your help with the new site.

    1. Please visit www.endillegalimmigration.com and explore. Please let us know if you see any typos, malfunctions, or needed corrections before we press release the site to the nation later this week. Please utilize the information you find on the new site during your activities fighting against illegal immigration and against Amnesty.

    2. Please use our “Tell Others About Us” feature on the right of the homepage or your personal e-mail contacts list to spread the word about this new site.

    3. We need links links links! If you run a website or blog, please add a link to http://www.EndIllegalImmigration.com (End Illegal Immigration) to your website. If you post in online forums, please add a link to our new site to your posts and signature files. Please write emails to your favorite websites asking them to add links to this new site!

    We need every single link we can get and as fast as we can get them. For each link you arrange, our new site will move up the search engine ladder and lead more Americans to this information.

    The new site will be updated regularly as we add more pages and more information.

    It is our hope that www.EndIllegalImmigration.com will become our new premier site and bring many more Americans to our aid. The site encourages people to join ALIPAC and NumbersUSA. Later, many of ALIPAC’s allied groups will be added as well.

    All constructive feedback is welcome by replying to this e-mail.

    Let’s launch this new ship into battle and get it up to speed quickly.

    The ALIPAC Team

  15. junes_reston said on 29 Jan 2009 at 6:36 am:
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    Why should this come as a surprise? On the Whitehouse Website, Obama lists as one of his agenda items under Immigration:

    “Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally:

    Remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.”

    Yet one of the first things pulled from the Stimulus Package is E-Verify for “further review.” Review WHAT? AZ has been the test case and passed.

    Change? Where’s the change?

  16. Johnson said on 29 Jan 2009 at 12:22 pm:
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  17. Tom Andrews said on 29 Jan 2009 at 6:58 pm:
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    I don’t really think a third party is a realistic , viable alternative in today’s political structure however we can start by allowing differing opinions within our own party without labeling and other self destuctive behaviors which have taken over the GOP in recent years. It has come to pass that anyone in the Republican party who doesn’t fully subscribe to a narrow set of particular opinions is immediately derided and disparaged, not by the Democrats but by our own people using the now ubiquitous term of RINO.
    We need to be able to have a vigorous debate on all Republican viewpoints and not stifle debate amongst our fellow R’s. I for one would find it much more acceptable to currently have a RINO Senator and a RINO Congressman that I would agree with 75% of the time than Mark Warner and Gerry Connelly who I’m sure to disagree with 100% of the time. As Herm Edwards said “you play to win the game”. As long as we continue to stifle any kind of debate or opinion that does not meet a stringent set of criteria or pass certain litmus tests we will lose elections for the next 100 years. If you think a RINO won’t help push your agenda, watch and see what a Democrat will do for you.

  18. Slick said on 29 Jan 2009 at 7:55 pm:
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    Tom Andrews,

    A careful review of the past two election cycles show exactly the opposite of what you propose. Candidates who ran as conservatives have won while the RINOs have lost. Case in point is John McLame. He never garnered support from his own base precisely because he is a democrat-light and we were still pulling out the knives from our backs he so often thrust there. You cannot win elections by saying “I’m not a real conservative, I cut deals with the devil(s) but vote for me cuz I aint as bad as the other guy. That simply doesn’t work. Reagan never did that, he was true to his party and he won landslides. We have core beliefs and principles to set ourselves apart from the mindless dumbocrats, not to emulate them in some lame hope of attracting the brain dead American idol fans who voted for DumbO.


  19. Red Wall Abby said on 29 Jan 2009 at 8:18 pm:
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    Who will run against Colgan in 3 years?

    I need to send that guy or gal a check!

  20. Tom Andrews said on 29 Jan 2009 at 8:23 pm:
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    I agree 100% with your position that we as Republicans have core values and beliefs and believe that they should be defended and cherished. As for Sen. McCain, it is true many don’t agree with most things he has done but…I present exhibit A in the White House right now. So tonight “the base” may have their principles, but the Democrats have the White House, the House and the Senate which is a terrifying situation for any American in my opinion. However, what has happened is the complete elimination of any type of debate within the party. Economic development through low taxation, effective efficient goverment, national security, self-reliance and personal responsibility have somehow disappeared from the platform; or at best been pushed way down the values list. I happen to hold the same beliefs as many in the party vis a vis moral issues but I also realize that Republicans come in many stripes as do Democrats and Independents. One must only do the math to realize that to win any election bigger than a local contest will numerically require the gathering of moderates, Independents and Conservative Democrats. Elections by nature are numbers games. My sincere hope is that Bob McDonnell will push the aforementioned values towards the top of the issue list so that we don’t face the day where we have to watch Gov. McAuliffe meeting with Pres. Obama and Sen. Mark Warner. I hope we don’t have to reach that dreadful day to finally figure it out because in the end that will not do any Virginian any good no matter what their political persuasion may be.

  21. Red, White and Blue said on 30 Jan 2009 at 10:01 pm:
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    What else did anyone expect of Duck Colgan? Duck is lame on everything except his pet projects. He is without a doubt one of those constantly returned-to office-without-doing-much-of -anything except hold the liberal ideals to the vote and his moderate views to the ballot. And gets re-elected again and again.
    Duck clucks to the democratic (party) goose step.

  22. Former Officer said on 31 Jan 2009 at 9:44 am:
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    Senator Chuck Colgan is a dedicated public servant to the people he serves in Va. Some of the name calling on here confounds me and even disgusts me. I am a republican and don’t always agree with Sen. Colgan but I dare anyone here to show me a politician, even within your own party, that you agree with 100%. He’s a good family man and a leader of the community. Disagree with him all you want but leave the name calling out.

  23. Greg L said on 31 Jan 2009 at 10:14 am:
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    Chuck Colgan told voters one thing when running for election, and did the precise opposite many times after the election. It’s like watching Tim Kaine talk about raising taxes.

    Colgan said he didn’t want to raise gas taxes. Then he sponsors a bill that would raise gas taxes.

    Colgan said he would crack down on illegal aliens. Now he votes for bills to give them in-state tuition.

    Perhaps best of all this pro-life legislator attacked his opponent last election cycle for not being sufficiently supportive of a “woman’s right to choose” in a mailer.

    If he actually lived up to the rhetoric of being a commonsense legislator who puts principle over party, I doubt a lot of folks would have much a problem with him, even if he happened to vote sometimes in ways we might not like. What irks me, and plenty of others, is how he says one thing and then does another. I can handle all sorts of political chicanery, but I’ve no stomach for liars.

  24. Greg L said on 31 Jan 2009 at 10:17 am:
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    If only Colgan would have just stuck to introducing bills allowing religious schools to deliver “biblical justice” upon mentally handicapped students with belts and other objects…

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    jfk said on 28 Jan 2009 at 2:20 pm: Flag comment

    Can’t he just take his millions, hope on a Colgan Air jet, and fly off someplace warm to retire? No mas Chuck, no mas….

    This is his final term and hopefully he will hop on that jet and go to Colombia.

  26. Here we are! said on 31 Jan 2009 at 1:47 pm:
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    We certainly need a Good Candidate to run against Colgan,but where do we find the top notch person ???????

    I understand Colgan has a foreign girly and she may be illegal. I wish some one would get the info out there correctly as I’ve heard from alot of different sources.

    Any ideas????

  27. Anonymous said on 31 Jan 2009 at 11:51 pm:
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    I understand Colgan has a foreign girly

    He married her!

  28. Anonymous said on 31 Jan 2009 at 11:53 pm:
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    Colgan has said he will not run again for Senate. This is his last term. Of course, he has said a lot of things in the past that haven’t been true!

  29. DPortM said on 3 Feb 2009 at 6:00 am:
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    Colgan’s wife is not illegal.

  30. Former Officer said on 3 Feb 2009 at 9:48 pm:
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    “Here we are! said on 31 Jan 2009 at 1:47 pm: Flag comment

    We certainly need a Good Candidate to run against Colgan,but where do we find the top notch person ???????

    I understand Colgan has a foreign girly and she may be illegal. I wish some one would get the info out there correctly as I’ve heard from alot of different sources.

    Any ideas????”

    Yeah, I have an idea. Quit posting crap you know nothing about. Post a fact or STFU.

  31. DPortM said on 5 Feb 2009 at 8:03 am:
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    Senator Colgan failed to vote on Senator Barker’s E-Verify bill, even after he held a Town Hall Meeting with Senator Barker where 90% of his constituents asked him to do so.

    Senator Colgan abstained from voting - which is only normal procedure when you have a conflict of interest. Senator Colgan does not represent his constitutent’s in Richmond - he represents only himself and what he wants.

    Thank the good Lord that he will not run for re-election.

  32. AWCheney said on 6 Feb 2009 at 1:29 pm:
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    “Thank the good Lord that he will not run for re-election.”

    Don’t celebrate too quickly if the Republican Party is foolish enough to nominate Bob FitzSimmonds again…it’s the reason he didn’t retire last time.

  33. Black Saint said on 6 Feb 2009 at 1:37 pm:
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    Hey, the Politicians need to tell where all the jobs are that Americans will not do. Could it be they are all taken by the invading horde of Illegal Aliens with free medical, schooling for their many spawn, jail cells and billions in Welfare paid for by the Americans jobs that have not been outsource or in sourced by the Politicians yet? That too will change until we are an third world nation and can compete with Mexico, India, China etc. that is what most of our politicians including OBAMA are working for!

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