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	<title>Comments on: Do We Cut Teachers, Or Radical Educrats?</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 05:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GFHS Teacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81682</link>
		<dc:creator>GFHS Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81682</guid>
		<description>I know all of these comments are a few days old, I didn't get to read them earlier, but I have to say something (that has nothing to do with the Multicultural Department): I worked at Gar-Field HS and have known all the ladies in the front office, Guidance Department, etc. over the past few years. All of them are very friendly, professional, and helpful. They all love what they are doing and are good at it! Conva, your experience there was an exception. Please don't think bad about my school because of this! (The new principal... that's a whole different story.) As for the fights: Bad things happen to good kids sometimes - we weren't there, so we don't know and shouldn't judge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all of these comments are a few days old, I didn&#8217;t get to read them earlier, but I have to say something (that has nothing to do with the Multicultural Department): I worked at Gar-Field HS and have known all the ladies in the front office, Guidance Department, etc. over the past few years. All of them are very friendly, professional, and helpful. They all love what they are doing and are good at it! Conva, your experience there was an exception. Please don&#8217;t think bad about my school because of this! (The new principal&#8230; that&#8217;s a whole different story.) As for the fights: Bad things happen to good kids sometimes - we weren&#8217;t there, so we don&#8217;t know and shouldn&#8217;t judge!</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81409</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81409</guid>
		<description>Well, Ash, you must not be familiar with disinformation and brainwashing techniques...and the "astute student" nowadays is the one who toes the politically correct party line under zero tolerance regs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Ash, you must not be familiar with disinformation and brainwashing techniques&#8230;and the &#8220;astute student&#8221; nowadays is the one who toes the politically correct party line under zero tolerance regs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash (Housewares)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81407</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash (Housewares)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81407</guid>
		<description>I like this multi cultural crap being taught.  The astute student will quickly surmise that if the cultures being taught about and elevated to such a status as to be designated a "month" had any worth, there would not be the need to teach about them and designate a month in their honor.  Only degenerate cesspool-like cultures need subsidized public relations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this multi cultural crap being taught.  The astute student will quickly surmise that if the cultures being taught about and elevated to such a status as to be designated a &#8220;month&#8221; had any worth, there would not be the need to teach about them and designate a month in their honor.  Only degenerate cesspool-like cultures need subsidized public relations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81374</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81374</guid>
		<description>Back to the original topic at hand . . .

Greg, thanks for the informative post.  What is most tragic is that we get the biggest turnout for the Presidential election, but relatively few people care about whom they vote for school board.  School board members have a huge direct effect on your budget as well as the education (or lack othereof) that your child receives.

Where my kid goes (in Fairfax County) his teacher has not given back any tests since the beginning of the school year.  We have no basis to determine whether or not the grades he is given are accurate.

By the way, if you want to read a great website about the shenanigans of the teachers unions, check out Intercepts at http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the original topic at hand . . .</p>
<p>Greg, thanks for the informative post.  What is most tragic is that we get the biggest turnout for the Presidential election, but relatively few people care about whom they vote for school board.  School board members have a huge direct effect on your budget as well as the education (or lack othereof) that your child receives.</p>
<p>Where my kid goes (in Fairfax County) his teacher has not given back any tests since the beginning of the school year.  We have no basis to determine whether or not the grades he is given are accurate.</p>
<p>By the way, if you want to read a great website about the shenanigans of the teachers unions, check out Intercepts at <a href="http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts." rel="nofollow">http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81365</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81365</guid>
		<description>But SteveS, with the exception of what you've said here, we're all trying to be adults and have an adult conversation about inappropriate content linked to the PWCS web site. 

Please remember that we are talking about children here, and calling a child names is never acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But SteveS, with the exception of what you&#8217;ve said here, we&#8217;re all trying to be adults and have an adult conversation about inappropriate content linked to the PWCS web site. </p>
<p>Please remember that we are talking about children here, and calling a child names is never acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: A PW County Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81364</link>
		<dc:creator>A PW County Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81364</guid>
		<description>chill pill, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chill pill, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81362</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81362</guid>
		<description>No need to do that freedom, we are on BVBL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to do that freedom, we are on BVBL.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81360</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81360</guid>
		<description>Let's revert back to adulthood, ok?  :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s revert back to adulthood, ok?  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :)</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81358</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81358</guid>
		<description>Actually I think you'd be safe SS...I don't think you'd have the guts to say something like that about someone's child to their face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I think you&#8217;d be safe SS&#8230;I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d have the guts to say something like that about someone&#8217;s child to their face.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81356</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81356</guid>
		<description>Well folks I don't get in physical fights so sorry you can't put me on the floor.  Maybe you should go see CONVA's kid if you want to fight, he seems ready to go and he has two under his belt already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well folks I don&#8217;t get in physical fights so sorry you can&#8217;t put me on the floor.  Maybe you should go see CONVA&#8217;s kid if you want to fight, he seems ready to go and he has two under his belt already.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81354</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81354</guid>
		<description>And, yeah...something like this IS worth fighting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, yeah&#8230;something like this IS worth fighting for.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81353</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81353</guid>
		<description>Actually freedom, what really pissed me off out of the gate is the way Stevie here insisted upon vilifying (bully, hooligan, should be locked up, punk, trouble-maker, etc.) a boy for defending himself on a blog like this where he can remain safely anonymous.  You don't think for one minute that, if he spouted off something like this to someone's face, that HE wouldn't be the one picking himself up off the floor...and rightly so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually freedom, what really pissed me off out of the gate is the way Stevie here insisted upon vilifying (bully, hooligan, should be locked up, punk, trouble-maker, etc.) a boy for defending himself on a blog like this where he can remain safely anonymous.  You don&#8217;t think for one minute that, if he spouted off something like this to someone&#8217;s face, that HE wouldn&#8217;t be the one picking himself up off the floor&#8230;and rightly so!</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81352</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81352</guid>
		<description>Nope, I can't imagine a kid that has never been in a fight, Steve...and yours have been in fights too.  If you honestly think they haven't been, you've just been oblivious to reality.  Oh, and there are STILL things worth fighting for, even for us, as adults...but this issue isn't one of 'em.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I can&#8217;t imagine a kid that has never been in a fight, Steve&#8230;and yours have been in fights too.  If you honestly think they haven&#8217;t been, you&#8217;ve just been oblivious to reality.  Oh, and there are STILL things worth fighting for, even for us, as adults&#8230;but this issue isn&#8217;t one of &#8216;em.  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81351</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81351</guid>
		<description>Given your immediately adversarial nature, and the way you so cavalierly insist that a young boy is a "bully and a hooligan" who should be locked up when it appears that HE was the one attacked by a couple of bullies, I'm very much surprised that YOU haven't raised bullies who pick on smaller and/or younger children who can't defend themselves as, apparently, those two who were found in the wrong.  Those boys just made the mistake of going after a boy who had been trained in self-defense...and was fortunate enough to have two teachers witness the altercation.  You're really a piece of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given your immediately adversarial nature, and the way you so cavalierly insist that a young boy is a &#8220;bully and a hooligan&#8221; who should be locked up when it appears that HE was the one attacked by a couple of bullies, I&#8217;m very much surprised that YOU haven&#8217;t raised bullies who pick on smaller and/or younger children who can&#8217;t defend themselves as, apparently, those two who were found in the wrong.  Those boys just made the mistake of going after a boy who had been trained in self-defense&#8230;and was fortunate enough to have two teachers witness the altercation.  You&#8217;re really a piece of work.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81350</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81350</guid>
		<description>AWC,
Ok so you believe CONVA without question.  Fine.  I don't.  And if you want me to tell you that your assumption about me was wrong I will.  You are wrong, my profession is not education.  My passion is my non-fighting kids so my energy goes into making my kids schools they best they can be by being a positive influence on them.
Freedom,
You can't imagine a kid has never been in a fight?  I want my kids to stay away from yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWC,<br />
Ok so you believe CONVA without question.  Fine.  I don&#8217;t.  And if you want me to tell you that your assumption about me was wrong I will.  You are wrong, my profession is not education.  My passion is my non-fighting kids so my energy goes into making my kids schools they best they can be by being a positive influence on them.<br />
Freedom,<br />
You can&#8217;t imagine a kid has never been in a fight?  I want my kids to stay away from yours.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81346</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81346</guid>
		<description>By the way, I did make an assumption about you SteveS...that you are a cog in the wheel which everyone is complaining about right now.  You never denied that so, presumably, I was correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I did make an assumption about you SteveS&#8230;that you are a cog in the wheel which everyone is complaining about right now.  You never denied that so, presumably, I was correct.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81345</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81345</guid>
		<description>You assume much about both me and CONVA, SteveS.  Your lack of reading comprehension aside, dealing in sweeping generalizations as you do, you obviously know nothing of me nor, I would imagine, CONVA.  Although to quote the most telling passage of one of CONVA's comments:

"By the way, a teacher testified in his behalf and the two freaks were suspended for a week."

Obviously, his grandson was not the troublemaker, yet your lack of comprehension led you to automatically assume that.  Your immediate attack on CONVA based on that misapprehension led me to challenge you, which you immediately use to make assumptions about me, of whom you obviously know nothing.  I based what I said on what was written...I've never had a problem with reading comprehension.  Those few occasions when I misread something, or went over it too quickly, I apologized.  I do not apologize on this occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You assume much about both me and CONVA, SteveS.  Your lack of reading comprehension aside, dealing in sweeping generalizations as you do, you obviously know nothing of me nor, I would imagine, CONVA.  Although to quote the most telling passage of one of CONVA&#8217;s comments:</p>
<p>&#8220;By the way, a teacher testified in his behalf and the two freaks were suspended for a week.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously, his grandson was not the troublemaker, yet your lack of comprehension led you to automatically assume that.  Your immediate attack on CONVA based on that misapprehension led me to challenge you, which you immediately use to make assumptions about me, of whom you obviously know nothing.  I based what I said on what was written&#8230;I&#8217;ve never had a problem with reading comprehension.  Those few occasions when I misread something, or went over it too quickly, I apologized.  I do not apologize on this occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anchor Baby</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81344</link>
		<dc:creator>Anchor Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81344</guid>
		<description>I still have no idea why schools suspend/expel people for defending themselves.  If nothing else, students should be encouraged to defend themselves as it'll make them beter citizens later in life.

Agreed that schools have too much fat built into them.  And, the patern of marbilization of that fat is focused too much on the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have no idea why schools suspend/expel people for defending themselves.  If nothing else, students should be encouraged to defend themselves as it&#8217;ll make them beter citizens later in life.</p>
<p>Agreed that schools have too much fat built into them.  And, the patern of marbilization of that fat is focused too much on the top.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81343</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81343</guid>
		<description>Oh Steve, how ridiculous...I can't even imagine a kid who has never been in a fight...maybe Dad just doesn't know.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Steve, how ridiculous&#8230;I can&#8217;t even imagine a kid who has never been in a fight&#8230;maybe Dad just doesn&#8217;t know.  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81341</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/02/06/do-we-cut-teachers-or-radical-educrats/#comment-81341</guid>
		<description>AWC,
You can gather whatever you want.  I gather that you would believe CONVA no matter what he says.  I guess you don’t find it strange that his punk grandson was in two fights.  It’s a pattern.  And I am what is right with the school system.  My last kid is almost out of high school and has never been in a fight and I have never been called to the school to get any of my kids out of trouble.  I am involved in my kid’s lives and their schooling, that is a major part of the reason they are all successful and are or will be attending some of the best universities in the state.  Trouble makers like CONVA and his family as well as negative people like you are what is wrong with the school system.  I bet the only time CONVA darkens the school door is to retrieve his troubled offspring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWC,<br />
You can gather whatever you want.  I gather that you would believe CONVA no matter what he says.  I guess you don’t find it strange that his punk grandson was in two fights.  It’s a pattern.  And I am what is right with the school system.  My last kid is almost out of high school and has never been in a fight and I have never been called to the school to get any of my kids out of trouble.  I am involved in my kid’s lives and their schooling, that is a major part of the reason they are all successful and are or will be attending some of the best universities in the state.  Trouble makers like CONVA and his family as well as negative people like you are what is wrong with the school system.  I bet the only time CONVA darkens the school door is to retrieve his troubled offspring.</p>
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