Manassas Park Police: Doing Us All Proud
By Greg L | 6 February 2009 | Manassas Park, Humor & Satire | 20 Comments
Given the most recent story of an officer with the Manassas Park Police Department beating up a woman during a traffic stop because she wouldn’t sign a traffic citation and was uncooperative in getting out of her car, this video of another Manassas Park Police Officer hitting a handcuffed suspect with a stun gun to get him into the police car is timely. Isn’t it nice to know that professional standards of conduct by law enforcement personnel are so diligently followed?.
“In Manassas Park, they don’t bother with a Miranda notice. They just pull out the stun guns.”
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So some loud mouth punk gets tazered (supposedly) and I’m suppose to be upset? Next we’ll be supporting Fernandez!
June 2008 video. Two incidents in 8 months, not bad, especially at 1 AM. Bad things happen in the AM don’t you know!
Greg, are you smoking crack? What in the hell do you hope to accomplish here? How do you think you would have handled the situation, tough guy? Did you hear how belligerent and combative the suspect was? I don’t see any video of the incident only audio so as far as we know he may have been brandishing a weapon or reaching for something. If you think trying to embarrass local law enforcement is a smart way to improve the safety of our communities, you’re way off the mark. God knows these poor guys have it hard enough, barely make a pittance and have to put up with a whiny public who sits on the sidelines and takes cheap shots at them. If I were a cop in MP, next time I got I call I sure wouldn’t be in any hurry to get there. I just hope its not you or someone you love who needs the help. Shame on you Greg!
The guy refused to get in the car. This is what tasers are for!
I haven’t gotten a traffic ticket since 1991, but I don’t remeber having to sign for the summons. If you get a tix in VA you now have to sign for it? Is that the law?
FOIA-A Virginia Uniform Summons is a form of arrest. By signing it, you promise to appear in court on the assigned date or pay the fine in advance. Refusal to sign results in an alternate form of arrest, wherein the arrestee is taken into physical custody by the officer and transported to a magistrate, who will review the charges and set bond as appropriate.
Refusal to sign a summons = an arrestable offense in VA. All she had was a snack price of a ticket for driving w/out a license…what a 25 or 40 dollar fine? The cop ran her stats and she came back legit. All he needed was her signature on the citation ticket. Then she refused to comply b/c she did not “understand” English? This person here for 11 years with a valid VA DR License? How can one have a valid VA state license and not read/understand English? Who will answer that question? What came after I can only speculate about.
First of all I do hear a sound that sounds like a tazer but has it been confirmed a tazer was used? Because I have seen people tazered and I heard none of the screams that usually accompany a tazer. In addition, I did hear a lot of screaming by the arrestee and that is what happens to people who are in police custody when they fight. Weather he was in handcuffs or not, no police officer should subject himself to injury needlessly. This is the reason for tazers, so the officer go home at night unhurt and the criminal goes to jail instead of the morgue. I have no problem with the many comments about the MP government because lord knows I am feeling the mismanagement. But to blame the MP employees, especially the PD everytime you feel they did something wrong is wreckless. I hope someday one of them sues you even if they lose, I hope you have to spend millions defending yourself. I have disagreed with you alot but always thought you made interesting points and usually agreed with the message, just not your way of getting it out there. But you have gone way over the line. How many people have you ever had to arrest? Let me guess, it rymes with hero, of which you are not.
(FOIA said on 6 Feb 2009 at 12:16 pm: Flag comment
I haven’t gotten a traffic ticket since 1991, but I don’t remeber having to sign for the summons. If you get a tix in VA you now have to sign for it? Is that the law?)
You did have to sign the ticket in 91. Cop here in VA from 78-2008 and you’ve always had to sign.
“How can one have a valid VA state license and not read/understand English?”
It’s pretty easy when the DMV publishes a driver’s manual in Spanish, and offers the driver’s test in Spanish.
Miranda is used only when you are questioning someone who is not free to leave.
These guys make the New Orleans PD look professional. For all of those leaping to the defense of the MPPD, I ask, why don’t these things happen in Manassas or PWC? Same area. Same demogrpahics, same pretty much everything…except different PD’s. Maybe not scientific, but I’d bet the problem is with the MPPD.
I was a witness to this scene. I’ve interviewed the photographer of the video and the owner of the club. The following are the facts involving this video. 1) This man was peacefully leaving the business after performing in a rap contest.
2) The police officer that pulls up was sitting in the parking lot. No request for police intervention was made.
3) The man committed no crime either inside or outside; he was standing in front of the business talking to the doormen. (Loudly)
4) when the officer demanded he step forward he complied with no resistance.
5). He was immediately cuffed and searched with no resistance. During the search his pants were pulled down to his knees.
6) Nothing was found during the search.
7). He requested his pants be pulled up so he could step into the police car. Instead of pulling his pants up for him they stun gunned him.
9) He was handcuffed and not resisting arrest. As far as the video shows, he committed no crime. He was handcuffed and searched before any possible warrant search was attempted.
10) 150 seconds elapsed from the time he was handcuffed until he was stun gunned.
Stun guns are different from tazers in several ways:
1) There is no recording system to document there deployment.
2) Stun guns render the victim incapacited instantly, not screaming or writhing on the ground.
3) Stun guns leave no dart wounds to document there use.
4) Stun guns are not standard issue for MPPD. However I have seen one holstered on at least one MPPD Officer.
5) Stun guns can only be used in extremely close proximity.
These are the facts. Make your own conclusions.
MPPD does not have any “stun guns” on the street - That was the sound of a TAZER. The TAZER is designed to either fire the electrical probes into the body or you can remove the cartridge and hold the TAZER against the person and deploy. So much for your facts - maybe next time you should do some more research
and you have NEVER seen a stun gun holstered on ANY MPPD OFFICER!!
Go on a ride along sometime and see how tough the job can be.
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Can you also answer why when the county and surrounding police realize the danger in hiring someone who shouldn’t carry, MPPD picks them up?? No psych eval maybe????
Did you ever stop to think that you get what you pay for?? MPPD doesn’t pay anything close to the NoVA average. Are you willing to have your taxes raised so that you can get the highest of caliper officers?
In reference to the reply of mr. “witness”, you obvioulsy have no background in interviewing or learning about your subject matter prior to publishing you supposed “research”. I will fill you in on a few things:
1)Tazers do have recording devices built into them for such occassions when an idiot who speaks out on such instances that they know nothing about. It is designed to protect the officer and the subject from litigation.
2)Tazers are far more advanced then the old “stun guns.” Stun guns do not leave people incapacitated as you might see in movies, which based on your responses is your only source of research, I’m sure you will say people go flying backwards when they are shot with a gun too. Tazers are designed to be used with probes that fire from the weapon or without them. Applying the Tazer without the probes cause pain and not incapacitation, which would mean people would scream or at least be heard when they are Tazed , I know this , I have seen it.
3) Tazers used with the darts leave small puncture wounds and when used without the probes they will leave two signature marks on the skin. I have seen them.
4) If you noticed that you could hear the Tazer in the video, that is most likely because the guy was not , I repeat NOT, Tazed at all. When there is direct contact with the skin you will not be able to hear the Tazer as clearly. It will be very muffled and hardly audible even up close. The Tazer was probably just turned on to show the uncooperative subject his option for not complying with their lawful commands. Basically a warning shot.
So I have read your facts and I have made my conclusion ….. you have no idea what you are talking about. I will put my trust in more competent people to do the job.
sad i tell you, sad in deed. i was in the military, and we used tasers. let me tell you…the warning shot theory? come on. who shoots a taser warning shot? do you know how long it takes to reload a taser? in a combat situation, (or manassas park street confrentation)when a target is coming at you, or showing resistance…whats the most non leathal measure available? pepper or gas. he coulda pepperd the guy and recieved less hastle as he has without the taser. in my opinion tasers suck. you might kill some one with a heart condition or a drug user. even know you just killed a criminal, or a drug dealer, user, ect. that death is on your consious. i only ramble on all this because thats the potential of manassas park police. the guy who beat up the mexican lady on the traffic stop, daves horrid cops at the pool hall, all of em. they are all capable. and that one ****** of a guy that works security at the movie theatre part time. mother**** and *** damn that man
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