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By Greg L | 12 February 2009 | Uncategorized | 58 Comments

Lots happening that I haven’t had (or won’t have) a chance to dig into:

What are you all hearing?



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58 Comments

  1. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 12:14 am:
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    We need a new state chair.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Y5JDTNkmg&eurl

  2. Anchor Baby said on 13 Feb 2009 at 12:22 am:
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    Has anyone in PWC or in HSM tried talking to the Jail Board about using chain gang labor (work release inmates) to clean up graffiti in Manassas?

    Personally, I think it’s a great idea. I think we need to put more of our inmate population to work in a way benefical to the community.

  3. Greg L said on 13 Feb 2009 at 1:02 am:
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    Anon, no we can’t have someone who remarks upon Abraham Lincoln enshrining “In God We Trust” as our national motto in Virginia. That would be so, well, CONSERVATIVE.

  4. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 1:11 am:
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    His remarks about Darwin don’t concern you at all?

  5. Greg L said on 13 Feb 2009 at 1:25 am:
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    No. Since when was any criticism of Darwin considered apostasy? If I don’t completely accept his writings on faith, have I just punched my ticket to hell in the Church of Secular Progressivism?

  6. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 1:31 am:
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    Saying that Darwinism is inherently racist and leads to atheism is wrong, you know that.

    It’s an embarrassment to the commonwealth that our chairman is so ignorant about science.

  7. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 6:01 am:
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    If the human animal doesn’t evolve, then how do we explain the changes in average height and bulk over only several hundreds of years? Living forms were on this earth for millions of years, so one can imagine what changes could take place over that great expanse of time. Science requires proof, whereas religion requires faith. Both valid, but separate.

  8. anon said on 13 Feb 2009 at 6:42 am:
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    Anyone check Lake Manassas for the missing Mexican island?

    http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Missing_Mexican_island_fuels_mystery_999.html

  9. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 6:48 am:
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    They are now going to use Rhode Island as their territorial marker!

  10. Maureen said on 13 Feb 2009 at 7:06 am:
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    Thank you Bob Marshall and everyone who made those phone calls. This E-verify amendment is a step in the right direction.

  11. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:29 am:
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    Another “BIG” march by MWOBs this coming monday (President’s Day.)
    Looks like the animales are coming out of hibernation early this year!

    http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/crime/article/state_police_to_investigate_immigrants_assault_claim/29873/

  12. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:32 am:
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    The Math Investigations meeting was strange, or maybe I expected something different. The board basically went in rounds and gave their opinion of the opt in and provided a list of questions to staff who were there and prepared to answer the quesitons but weren’t allowed to do so. Instead the Superintendent said staff wold consolidate their responses and provide them to the board ASAP.

    It was very strange - and kind of unfair to staff. Here all these people had stayed late and appeared more than ready to answer the questions but they weren’t allowed to. And board members weren’t given the opportunity to redirect and further discuss concerns they or staff had.

    It seemed, at times, like the board was getting a bad case of analysis paralysis and continuing, as per one baord member, to beat this dead horse. The vote on th eopt in, currently scheduled for the 18th, may be deferred.

    As is par for the course, a couple of misleading statements regarding Investigations and the old program were made.

    The first was that Investigations has closed the achievement gap - it hasn’t. The achievement gap has gotten larger for about 2/3 of the minority students since Investigations was implemented.

    The second was that test scores are absolutely wonderful since Investigations was implemented and were horrible under the old program. Again, not true. SOL pass rates have not changed since Investigations was implemented and advanced rates are slightly down relative to the state for almost all AYP subgroups. That leaves me to conclude that if test scores were horrible before, and they haven’t changed, then they’re still horrible.

    SDMT results did increase, but you expect test scores to increase the 2nd year the test is given. Contrary to how it’s being protrayed, the SDMT was never given to students under the old program, so we’re comparing 1st year Investigations to 2nd year Investigations. And teachers have told me that the test is given in March and covers materials they don’t typically teach until April or May so they’ve adapted the pacing appropriately.

    It’s also worth noting, because this bit of misinformation is repeated frequently, that Investigations was not selected to remedy declining elementary SOL scores. It was selected because SAT scores and , reportedly, 8th grade SOL scores, weren’t as high as expected. Interestingly, 8th grade SOL scores now and at the time exceeded state averages, were and are consistent with neighboring jurisdictions, and were and are increasing. So, apparently Investigations was selected to remedy lower than acceptable SAT scores.

    The third bit of misinformation was that the county is teaching a blended approach now. That is simply not supported by the actual evidence. If you review at the pacing guides and the planning calendars and simply county the supplemental lessons you realize that supplemental lessons account for about 10% of the lessons while 90% is unchanged Investigations. And none of the supplementation is in computation - the biggest area of difference between Investigations and classical mathematics.

    The fourth wasn’t stated so much as implied - and that the belief that Investigations can be blended. It can’t be. Investigation is based on the belief that learning facts and standard processes to the point of automatic execution is dangerous - that it undermines students developing an understanding of numbers and operations. So exposure to the standard algorithms is limited to comparing them to other processes and deferred to later grades. Just moving the one lesson on the standard algorithms to an earlier grade doesn’t fix the problem because it’s still the same compare and contrast lesson.

    All in all it was pretty much same old same old……

  13. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:35 am:
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    anon said on 13 Feb 2009 at 6:42 am: Flag comment

    Anyone check Lake Manassas for the missing Mexican island?

    http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Missing_Mexican_island_fuels_mystery_999.html

    It’s now called TEXAS!

  14. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:36 am:
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    Please forgive the typo’s in the previous post! My youngest disabled the spell checker and my typing is horrible!!!!

  15. Prester John said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:41 am:
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    Senor Fernandez should’ve consulted someone on how to hang the banner which is a copy of his original hate spewing manifesto–the wind totally shredded it. A fine backdrop for his protest march.

  16. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:47 am:
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    Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:29 am: Flag comment

    Another “BIG” march by MWOBs this coming monday (President’s Day.)
    Looks like the animales are coming out of hibernation early this year!

    Does anyone else think it is ODD that the alleged victim still hasn’t filed a formal complaint against the officer after almost 2 weeks? HMMMMMMMM

  17. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 9:11 am:
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    HAPPY FIRDAY THE 13th, Sr. Fernandez! May you get all that you deserve.

  18. AWCheney said on 13 Feb 2009 at 9:27 am:
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    Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 8:47 am:
    “Does anyone else think it is ODD that the alleged victim still hasn’t filed a formal complaint against the officer after almost 2 weeks? HMMMMMMMM”

    That rather belies the theory that this lady perpetrated her own assault for the purpose of filing a law suit, I should think. Filing a formal complaint against the officer would be a first step in that process.

  19. Prester John said on 13 Feb 2009 at 9:32 am:
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    The protesters (all 25 of them) just went down Center St accompanied by a couple of very annoying drumers, a TV crew, and a police escort.

  20. AWCheney said on 13 Feb 2009 at 9:52 am:
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    I really hope that they have no audience on the street…that only gives them more incentive.

  21. Johnson said on 13 Feb 2009 at 10:43 am:
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    Perhaps another facsimile of the Devil-y’know, to get everyone in a festive mood?

  22. DPortM said on 13 Feb 2009 at 12:23 pm:
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    Fernandez and Alvarez showed up without a lawyer, again, and asked for a 30-day continuance. The Judge said no and the next court date is this coming Wednesday at 10 a.m.

  23. DPortM said on 13 Feb 2009 at 12:23 pm:
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    Correction on the number of marchers - only 20. And it took 8 City policemen to escort them.

  24. Johnson said on 13 Feb 2009 at 1:26 pm:
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    Wow. Were the rest of the concerned illegal alien apologists at work? :-)

  25. Johnson said on 13 Feb 2009 at 1:42 pm:
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    AWCheney-
    You are correct. Calling a press conference w/o filing a complaint is grandstanding. She just wants a check.

  26. citizenofmanassas said on 13 Feb 2009 at 1:56 pm:
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    Here is another story to get the blood boiling.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/13/deported-for-drugs-illegal-still-sued-arizona-ranc/

  27. freedom said on 13 Feb 2009 at 2:01 pm:
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    All they have to do is “sit tight”…amnesty and termination of fence construction is not far behind. :(

  28. John Galt said on 13 Feb 2009 at 2:27 pm:
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    “If the human animal doesn’t evolve, then how do we explain the changes in average height and bulk over only several hundreds of years?”

    This is a canard. I can explain it. It wasn’t Dawinist “natural selection”. It was better nutrition. It was better healthcare. It was better science regarding maximizing physiology. It was division of labor. It was increased standards of living. I can demonstrate that pretty clearly. Look at the children of Asian immigrants. They are usually taller and heavier then their parents, and the next generation even more so. Science has concluded it was diet. More annimal based protein in the diet. Children continuing to drink dairy based milk, after weening from their mothers. Compared to children their own age in Asia, those living in the west are taller, and thicker.

    Not proof enough? Ok, look at professional athletes. Pick a sport. The athletes of today are bigger, stronger, faster, than those of even 20 years ago. You want to attribute this to “natural” selection? No. It’s diet, training, etc.

    I have a suggestion. Try actually reading Darwins “Origins”. He admits that there are tremendous gaps in his theories. There wa a time when Newton was the be-all and end-all in Physics. However, we have found since then that the laws of thermodynamics ignored a whole bunch of other factors.

    Lastly, I’d suggest you screen the film “Expelled”. I like the last interview where this guy refuses to even consider the possibility of a creator, (who we call God), even though there is a fair amount of evidence that He exists, but is willing to accept some advanced extra-terrestrial civilization (who evolved according to Darwinian laws of nature) from an alternate dimension may have caused the “Big Bang” or set about “seeding” other worlds, but can provide ZERO proof that this has occurred. It is thinking like this that gave birth to the Eugenics movement.

  29. FOIA said on 13 Feb 2009 at 4:44 pm:
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    The entire school board must go.

  30. Anonymous said on 13 Feb 2009 at 6:10 pm:
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    http://www.expelledexposed.com/

    Evolution is in no way incompatible with religion. Even the Vatican has endorsed evolution.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5705331.ece

  31. FormerCOMemployee said on 13 Feb 2009 at 9:47 pm:
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    I just read over on Councilman Harrover’s blog that Judge Potter granted their (Fernandez and Alvarez) request for a second continuance. Can anyone explain?

  32. Greg L said on 13 Feb 2009 at 9:58 pm:
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    Not for thirty days, but until next Wednesday when ready or not, he’s going to have his hearing.

    Funny thing, though. In the audience were a number of attorneys that were assisting him in various ways, but he claimed not to have an attorney.

    Wednesday this chapter should come to a close, until Fernandez tries something even more over the top. Pretty soon he’s going to run out of civil violations to pick from as options.

  33. DPortM said on 14 Feb 2009 at 6:35 am:
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    Here’s an interesting spin e-mail from moveon.org:

    You’d think after bankrupting our country, Republican leaders would rethink some of their ideas.

    Guess again.

    They actually tried to replace the whole stimulus bill with tax cuts for the rich. And the worst part is, they were partially successful—they gutted funding from some of the most progressive programs, like school construction and affordable health care.

    We need to make sure voters back home know what these Republicans are up to. Because if we don’t, they’ll do it again. They’ll weaken or block every important piece of legislation this year.

    If you want health care for all, if you want to stop climate change, if you want to end the war, can you help run ads letting voters know that their senators and representatives stood in the way of change? Since yesterday, thousands of contributions have been coming in. But we’re still $100,000 short of our goal. Can you chip in $25 to put us over the top?

    President Obama and most of the congressional Democrats spent the last month working hard to craft a plan that would help keep hundreds of thousands of teachers from being laid off, invest in vital green-energy technology, and provide health care for folks who lose their jobs.

    What did conservative Democrats and Republicans bring to the table? Rehashed Bush policies and tired talking points. The very same things that got us into this mess in the first place. The stimulus will still create millions of jobs, and it’s an important first step, but it could have been even stronger.

    People are really suffering across our nation, yet Republicans are continuing to play the same old partisan games—and they’re being helped along by conservative Democrats. Don’t worry: We’ll hold both Republicans and Democrats who stand in the way of change accountable with these ads.

    We need to make it crystal clear to their voters what they’re doing. If we don’t, these senators and representatives will stand in the way of every bit of progress we try to make this year, from clean energy to affordable health care for all. Can you chip in $25 to help us run hard-hitting ads exposing this conservative obstructionism?

  34. Dave in PWC said on 14 Feb 2009 at 6:40 am:
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    What about the lawyer that was advising him that he wasn’t breaking any laws that he didn’t need permits? This guys 15 minutes of fame should have been up a long time ago. Manassas needs to just get this one over with quickly. Did he ask for an interpreter as well?

  35. DPortM said on 14 Feb 2009 at 7:38 am:
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    Dave in PWC

    Check out this link - he went to California to promote his wall and to sign autographs - but he doesn’t have time to find a lawyer? He certainly had an attorney advising him that the sign was legal this time… And the immigration lawyer Lisa Firth was with him in court yesterday.

    http://www.mexica-movement.org/LibetyWall.htm

  36. citizenofmanassas said on 14 Feb 2009 at 7:58 am:
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    Hundreds of thousands of teachers from being laid off? Are you kidding me? Health care for all? It will create millions of jobs? Not even obama is saying that. Heck even Biden says with the bill, there still could be a 30% chance they will not get it right.

    It is pretty funny they also want to talk about too much spending by the GOP and how they bankrupted the Nation, by complaining there was not enough spending in this bill.

  37. Dave in PWC said on 14 Feb 2009 at 8:41 am:
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    DPortM,

    I’m confused why the lawbreaker had an immigration lawyer with him. I thought he was once illegal that got a Clinton or Reagan amnesty? Maybe she was there in case ICE showed up on the march? That link you provided shows why California is in the state they are in. We have to continue to be vigilant against the law breakers or we will end up like California. Thanks for the link.

  38. Cheetah said on 15 Feb 2009 at 12:02 am:
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    dportm,

    that link was pretty crazy. who does fernandez think he is? another bill clinton, MLK, etc..hitting the la talk circuit and such. he cant be too smart or courageous when he cannot do a simple task like file for a building permit when people do it properly every day.

    that guy needs to pull his head out of the tree-stump.

  39. AWCheney said on 15 Feb 2009 at 10:37 am:
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    I checked the link out as well and, either the specifics of that wall and surrounding events were edited by Mexica or, more likely, Fernandez was a bit embarrassed to relate the actual facts. Among others, he said that the wall was fire-bombed and he certainly didn’t say anything about how that house required demolition in the first place.

  40. Anonymous said on 15 Feb 2009 at 1:05 pm:
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    Cheetah said on 15 Feb 2009 at 12:02 am: Flag comment

    dportm,

    that link was pretty crazy. who does fernandez think he is? another bill clinton, MLK, etc..hitting the la talk circuit and such. he cant be too smart or courageous when he cannot do a simple task like file for a building permit when people do it properly every day.

    It’s no wonder that Maywood is a sanctuary city with Tio Felipe as it mayor. Could we expect anything different by a place being run by Latinos?

    (Gaudencio Fernandez arrives from Manassas, Virginia (via Washington D.C.). Olin Tezcatlipoca and Nelyollotl Toltecatl greet him and drive him to Maywood. Maywood is a sanctuary city, a city that does not terrorize undocumented Nican Tlaca (Indigenous people) migrants.)

    To read that article you would think that the KKK rode through Manassas town, sic, every night throwing firebombs at signs and generally causing havoc. Found it fascinating that Fernandez was taken to a sanctuary city. Is it because he is an illegal and needed the support from his amigos? The guy is a complete ass and hope the judge throws the book at him on Wednesday (if, of course, the case against him doesn’t once again get postponed.

  41. Here we are! said on 15 Feb 2009 at 3:43 pm:
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    Perhaps we need to go back to a Volunteer as School Board Member. Get some one who really wants to do something. Volunteers and get rid of the paid elected. We can save some money also.

  42. AWCheney said on 15 Feb 2009 at 4:28 pm:
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    HWA, if you’re talking about going back to an appointed School Board, think again…we already went through that here in the County. At least an elected School Board has some obligation to the electorate/parents. An appointed board has absolutely none, and it shows. You really don’t want to go there.

  43. just a citizen said on 16 Feb 2009 at 9:38 am:
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    Just a general open thread comment about BVBL:

    What I enjoy about BVBL is that folks let it hang out. Some are mature and prudent, others are childish, a few are downright mean. The vast majority are in earnest. BVBL provides a good place for people to vent, like going down to the corner store in the old days.

    It’s not a bad place for information, but the best information provided is “the pulse.” If one wishes to get the overall pulse of angry conservatives who believe liberals have absolutely no sense at all and are the stupidest people on earth, this is the place to come.

    In many ways it’s like attending a pep rally. Most people feel the same way and they tend to feed on each others’ emotions. Good provided everyone keeps their head on straight and doesn’t start looking for the koolaid.

    Advocating against illegal conduct such as illegal entry into the country is quite appropriate. It’s obviously a very credible posiiton. But some comments focus a bit too negatively on different cultures and ethnicities in the US regardless of legal status, with the discussions getting downright unseemly. BLBV lacks cred when that happens, but I guess it’s how some people feel.

    Without question, some libs are idiots and some conservatives are too. While it can be fun, demonizing or marginalizing the opposition does not move the ball forward. It may be emotionally cathartic, but I question how effectively it changes minds. Like preaching to the choir, which can feel good but gives a false sense of accomplishment .

    It is not true that all views are respected here, but given that an expressed aim of BVBL is to “drive liberals insane,” this should not come as a surprise to anyone. While some liberals attempt debate on this board, there really is no point in their doing so. It’s like attending someone else’s pep rally.

    Overall, BVBL is what it purports to be.

  44. citizenofmanassas said on 16 Feb 2009 at 10:31 am:
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    Just Citizen,

    Unlike the COMPOST and other MSM outlets who for the most part provide cover for illegals, and their negative impact on our Country, BVBL provide an outlet for people to post their feelings and first hand accounts of not just the negative impact of illegals, but many other issues affecting our community.

    The problem with many libs who post here, is they come on post their opinion, and when faced with facts that prove them wrong, they run away, or call everyone here a bigot and then run away.

    Sorry, but there simply is not a defense for illegals, no matter how much spin their defenders try to put on it. Nobody in their right mind would defend drunk driving or bank robbery etc. So, why defend other illegal criminal activity?

  45. Anonymous said on 16 Feb 2009 at 12:34 pm:
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    citizenofmanassas said on 16 Feb 2009 at 10:31 am: Flag comment

    Just Citizen,
    Sorry, but there simply is not a defense for illegals, no matter how much spin their defenders try to put on it. Nobody in their right mind would defend drunk driving or bank robbery etc. So, why defend other illegal criminal activity?

    They’re only here to do the jobs Americans won’t. Everyone misses this point that the country would collapse without all of the illegals. Local civic groups wouldn’t have a job cleaning up the gang grafitti they leave behind. We wouldn’t have screaming chicos to dodge at the super market. We would miss the overcrowded boarding houses and it occupants urinating in the yards. We would miss trying to find the English instructions on items we purchase. We would miss the stories in the local newspaper about how these poor people are being mistreated by the police departments just because they still can’t speak English after being in this country many years. There are so many things we would miss without the presence of illegal aliens.
    We would also miss the marches and demonstrations by people supporting signs that encite hate and the “social” gatherings held at these sites.

    Jeeeeez…….I just woke up from a nightmare and thought our government was inforcing the law and forcably did away with sanctuary cities and jailed the businesses that hire illegals. Man, I have to stay away from those echeladas.

  46. chameleon said on 16 Feb 2009 at 1:50 pm:
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    com/just a citizen,

    both very true statements. Illegal is Illegal, otherwise they wouldnt be. Sure it’s not violent crime, but being illegal in essence shows no respect for laws and it’s well proven that no respect for laws is a contagious symptom that spreads.

    BVBL is a good place to hang out and vent, dont go to the other place to vent, you’ll get the dogs after you or your stuff will be heavily censored. They are too busy driving around in their “breast-milk powered prius’s” (prop’s to Ted for that quote) to really know what the real world out there is

  47. rebelreggie said on 16 Feb 2009 at 1:56 pm:
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    U.S. Border Control
    Did you enjoy the Mexican candy?

    Posted: 15 Feb 2009 08:05 PM CST

    Saturday was Valentine’s Day, celebrated with flowers and candy, but increasingly, that candy is coming from Mexico. From jellied hearts to Hershey’s chocolates, Mexico’s candy exports to the United States have more than doubled since 2002 as manufacturers chase cheap labor and sugar south of the border.

    The latest arrival is Hershey, which is building a 1,500-employee factory in Monterrey, Mexico. Since 2007, the company has closed or shrunk factories in Oakdale, Calif.; Reading, Pa.; San Francisco and other sites.

    Hersheys is following Brach’s Confections, famous for caramels, and Ferrera Pan Candy, maker of Red Hots and Jaw Breakers. In January, Swiss chocolate giant Barry Callebaut opened a plant in Monterrey to produce about 100,000 tons of chocolate and cocoa a year for Hershey and other food makers. Mars Inc.’s Mexican branch produces Snickers and Milky Ways at a chocolate factory opened in 2007 in the northern city of Montemorelos, Mexico.

    “All these companies want to make it cheap overseas somewhere, then bring it back and sell it to our people who don’t have any jobs to buy it,” said Dennis Bomberger, business manager of Chocolate Workers Local 464 in Hershey, Pa.

    Even Mexican officials say they are unhappy, noting that chocolate factories are buying most of their cacao, the raw ingredient of cocoa and chocolate, at cheaper prices from Africa and Brazil, not Mexico.

    Brach’s Confections Inc. closed its Chicago factory in 2003 and moved to Linares, Mexico. Bobs Candies of Albany, Ga., a leader in the candy-cane business, moved its production to Reynosa, Mexico in 2005. In crime-ridden Juarez, Mexico, Sunrise Confections opened a plant in 2001 to make candies for U.S. grocery-store brands. For Valentine’s Day, it churns out jellied hearts and cinnamon hearts.
    Click here to view our entire news blog

  48. Brian Leeper said on 16 Feb 2009 at 3:19 pm:
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    Search the terms “lead” and “mexican candy” on Google. Some interesting results turn up.

  49. citizenofmanassas said on 16 Feb 2009 at 4:19 pm:
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    FWIW,

    We had lunch at the Red Robin(the one in Bristow by the new Target) today, and they have posted a sign in both English and spanish that states they hire only American Citizens and legal immigrants that are authorized to work in the United States. I Don’t know if they were busted in the past for hiring illegals, or they want to either scare off illegals, or make it appear they do not hire illegals.

  50. inquiring mind wants to know said on 16 Feb 2009 at 5:18 pm:
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    A few questions:

    Should those who disagree with the stimulus package nevertheless accept stimulus dollars?

    Should those politicos who disagree with the stimulus package decline to accept stimulus bucks for their communities?

    If the answers are “yes,” is there a difference between those who accept those dollars and US companies that do business in Mex to save a buck?

    (Yeah, I know. Seemingly apples and oranges, but I perceive a common thread. Maybe it’s not there.)

  51. Mike said on 16 Feb 2009 at 5:39 pm:
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    Anyone seen that stupid anti blog? I am sure most have but I just ran across it. It’s sad to think that they are wasting the very brain the good Lord gave them.

  52. citizenofmanassas said on 16 Feb 2009 at 5:48 pm:
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    Inquiring,

    I suppose on one hand since it is our tax dollars that will be spent, we should get those back, even though, we may not agree on how they are spent. On the other hand, I think a stand should be made that if you are going to vote against it, you should not be so willing to accept the money. However, since I live in VA with two Senators who voted for the Bill, and have a Governor who has a man crush on obama, we will get the money regardless of how our House members voted(the majority of whom voted against the Bill).

  53. inquiring said on 17 Feb 2009 at 7:28 am:
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    True that some money will automatically flow through, but there will be multiple opportunities to say “no thank you” to portions of the money. For example, municipalities will have opportunities to apply for $ from DOE. Municipalities are at the present time just beginning to get in line to make requests through state government offices. You don’t hear much about it because it’s not yet (but soon will be) completely clear exactly what money will be available and concrete application processes are not yet in place. Both House and Senate Bills had provisions contemplating application processes, so I’m positive there will be multple opportunities to say no thanks simply by not getting in line and submitting project applications. Believe me, municipalities will not be forced to accept $, and municipalities wanting the $ will be happy to pick from a larger pie. I’d be very surprised if a single municipality in the Commonwealth intentionally chooses not to get in line solely on the basis of principle.

  54. citizenofmanassas said on 17 Feb 2009 at 8:48 am:
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    Inquiring,

    I agree. Though, it seems at least for the Mayor of Manassas, since every other City is asking for money and most likely to receive it, Manassas should not be left out. Preaching fiscal responsibility like I did and many others did a few years ago when it seemed money was growing on trees seemed to have fallen on deaf ears. When the Council was increasing budgets between 8 to 11% a year and adding to the City costs, nobody on the Council it seemed thought past a year to think how an economic downturn might affect the City. Now, of course some cuts have been made, but had the City returned more money to us taxpayers, they could have avoided making some cuts and may have avoided having to put their hand out to the Federal Government. There is always an unforseen price to pay for accepting money from the Federal Government that would otherwise not have been provided.

  55. es_la_ley said on 17 Feb 2009 at 6:03 pm:
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    InsideNOVA article (2/17)

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    Police search for man in rape of 8-year-old

    By Uriah A. Kiser

    Published: February 17, 2009

    A 25-year-old Honduran national is wanted in connection with the rape of an 8-year-old girl.

    Police said Marcos Danilo Reyes Banegas is accused of raping the child in Woodbridge on Monday, said Prince William County police spokeswoman Erika Hernandez.

    Police said Reyes Banegas is an acquaintance of girl.

    Hernandez said the man has ties to the Woodbridge, Alexandria, and Gaithersburg, Md.

    Police have obtained warrants charging Reyes Banegas with rape, forcible sodomy, aggravated sexual battery and indecent liberties with a minor, Hernandez said.

    He is about 5 feet 3 inches tall and weighs 154 pounds. He has short black hair and brown eyes.

    Hernandez said he is driving a dark gray four-door 2004 Pontiac Grand Am sedan with Maryland registration “2DWK45.”

    Hernandez said because of his immigration status Reyes Banegas may try to flee the country.

    The report comes on the heels of a Manassas incident in which a man was charged with sexually assaulting another 8-year-old girl.

    On Feb. 9, police arrested Gerald Dean Lentz, 46, of 205 Yoakum Parkway #403 in Alexandria, and charged him with object sexual penetration and aggravated sexual battery.

    Hernandez said like Reyes Banegas case, Lentz also knew the girl before he allegedly attacked her.

    Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Reyes Banegas is encouraged to call police at 703-792-6500 or Crime Solvers at 703-670-3700. Callers don’t have to give their names. Tips leading to arrest could earn a cash reward up to $1,000.

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    http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/article/man_accused_of_raping_8-year-old/30154/

  56. citizenofmanassas said on 17 Feb 2009 at 8:07 pm:
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    More unrest along the border.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6267870.html

  57. Stimulus Q said on 18 Feb 2009 at 8:05 pm:
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    Re the earlier stimulus discussion, I gather that a handful of states such as Alaska are stating their intention to decline stimulus bucks.

  58. rebelreggie said on 21 Feb 2009 at 10:23 am:
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    AND JUST SO YOU KNOW………THIS WAS WRITTEN BY A BLACK WOMAN………

    White Pride Denied

    Elizabeth Wright - 8/11/2007

    Did you know that the terms “Black Power,” “Black Supremacy,” and “La Raza” (The Race) are all trademarks that have long been approved by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office? Even the Black Panther Party’s slogan “Burn, Baby, Burn” (which still evokes the threat of rioting and mayhem), had no problem winning official trademark recognition. And then there’s “African Pride,” “Black Pride,” “Chippewa Pride,” “Cuban Pride,” “Indian Pride,” “Jewish Pride,” “Red Pride,” and lots more — all aimed at acknowledging a race or ethnicity. And all terms approved by the U.S. government.

    As Reported by American Renaissance and Free Republic, when Justin Moritz, a former law enforcement officer, applied to trademark the phrase “White Pride Country Wide,” he was rejected in no uncertain terms. Registration of the words was not only denied, but the phrase was ruled “offensive” and “immoral.” More succinctly, the trademark office claimed, “… the proposed mark consists of or comprises immoral or scandalous matter.”

    Incredulous, Moritz’s next step was to appeal the decision and give trademark officials a chance to reconsider his request. He first did some homework and accumulated a list of all the trademarks given to terms that acknowledge pride of race or national origin. He came up with over three dozen relevant terms or slogans, many referencing people of color, which objectively could be deemed close relatives to “White Pride Country Wide.” All to no avail. Rejection of his registration was upheld, and to add to his vexation, his $1,300 trademark application fee was deemed non-refundable.

    Moritz next turned to the ACLU, which, unsurprisingly, refused to petition the trademark office in his behalf. He then contacted the Center for Individual Rights, a public interest law firm. CIR did not take the case, but did place it on the website of the Federalist Society, where lawyers sometimes choose cases to handle pro bono. As of August, Moritz had not been contacted by a willing attorney.

    Let’s face it, it would be surprising if Moritz found support, especially among whites. After decades of inundation about the evils of “white racism” coming from all directions, and most especially from the media and education establishments, the average white is programmed to avoid anything that smacks of conscious endorsement of his own race. In the current social climate, to display favorable regard towards that which is white, not only is forbidden, but is viewed as an automatic disparagement of non-whites.

    A “White Pride” T-shirt is deemed a threatening symbol, whereas a “Black Supremacy” slogan on a button or garment is viewed as an understandable, albeit angry response to undeserved past abuses. Any public effort to promote a white theme is doomed to failure, even if the proper bows to racial diversity are adhered to. Whites learn early to censor themselves, in order to comply with the rules of the race game.

    The white who does not learn how to keep his head beneath the radar could wind up smeared with the “racist” label — a potentially ruinous accusation. He who slips and fails to follow the politically correct race protocol could find himself in a turbulent situation. Given the existence of “hate crime” laws — ambiguous statutes conceived primarily to entrap whites — it is best to keep any socially unorthodox thoughts to oneself. As several cases demonstrate, punishment for Thought Crime has arrived in America.

    Knowing that whites are on the defensive in this peculiar, one-sided shadow play, self-appointed “watchdog” groups, i.e., the professional “anti-racists,” are quick to target a slogan like “White Pride Country Wide” as an arrogant manifestation of white supremacy. Honest intentions do not matter, since this is a “Gotcha!” game. Once the taboo “supremacist” has been applied, other whites will run for cover, eager to dissociate themselves from anyone who might bring on “race” troubles.

    In a society now immersed in identity politics, where the education system and a reinforcing media work overtime in pummeling young minds with racially correct propaganda, there is little prospect that fairness will prevail in the near future.

    Elizabeth Wright is an African-American writer and editor of the Issues & Views Magazine and blog. Her articles were also published in Issues & Views.

    Just so you know……..puppets come in BLACK too…….

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