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E-Verify In Virginia: Let’s Get It Done!

By Greg L | 19 February 2009 | Illegal Aliens, Virginia Politics | 36 Comments

There’s a chance to ensure that all of those stimulus jobs created by federal largesse flowing to the Commonwealth aren’t going to end up paying salaries for illegal aliens in Virginia, but you’re going to have to act quickly.

ACTION NEEDED FROM SAVE THE OLD DOMINION

Because of your previous phone calls, emails, and faxes, Delegate Bob Marshall’s budget amendment 4-6.05 requiring that “all political subdivisions and state agencies of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall use the E-Verify System operated jointly by the Department of Homeland Security and the Social Security Administration to ascertain the work status of all new employees.” passed on the House floor. Unfortunately our work isn’t quite done.

As early as next week, the “Conference Committee” will be meeting to finalize the State budget. It is essential that the language requiring the use of E-Verify remains in the final budget that is passed in order to ensure that taxpayer-funded jobs are awarded only to American citizens and legal residents.

To achieve this outcome, it is imperative that we contact the members of the “Conference Committee” and urge them to vote for the mandatory use of E-Verify by all state and local governments for every new hire.

Please note that the list of House Budget Conferee’s is accurate. However, with the exception of Senator Colgan, last year’s Senate Chair of the committee, the list of the Senate Budget Conferee’s is tentative. Based on past Senate Budget Conference Committee membership, we have been advised that the committee will likely include the other members listed below. If there are any changes, we will inform you right away.

Senator Colgan and Delegate Putney, the Chairmen of the “Conference Committee,” need to be inundated with your faxes, e-mails, and phone calls. Nevertheless, all twelve members of the committee also need to be contacted.

Below are the committee members, their contacts, and talking points on E-Verify.

SENATE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE
(TENTATIVE MEMBERS)

THERE IS A CENTRAL FAX NUMBER TO FAX THE SENATORS. YOU WILL NEED A SEPARATE COVER LETTER FOR EACH SENATOR AND THE FAX NUMBER IS (804) 698-7651

  • Senator Charles J. Colgan (D) - Senate District 29 Manassas (804) 698-7529 email: district29@sov.state.va.us
  • Senator William C. Wampler, Jr. (R) - Senate District 40 Bristol (804) 698-7540 email: district40@senate.virginia.gov
  • Senator Walter A. Stosch (R) - Senate District 12 Glen Allen (804) 698-7512 email: district12@senate.virginia.gov
  • Senator R. Edward Houck (D) - Senate District 17 Spotsylvania (804) 698-7517 email: district17@senate.virginia.gov
  • Senator Janet D. Howell (D) - Senate District 32 Reston (804) 698-7532 email: district32@senate.virginia.gov
  • Senator Richard L. Saslaw (D) - Senate District 35 Springfield (804) 698-7535 email: district35@senate.virginia.gov

HOUSE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE MEMBERS

  • Delegate Lacey E. Putney (Chairman) (I) - House District 19 Bedford (804) 698-1019 Fax (804) 698-6719 email: DellPutney@house.virginia.go
  • Delegate M. Kirkland Cox (R) - House District 66 Colonial Heights (804) 698-1066 Fax (804) 698-6766 email: DelKCox@house.virginia.gov
  • Delegate Phillip A. Hamilton (R) - House District 93 Newport News (804) 698-1093 Fax (804) 698-6793 email: DelPHamilton@house.virginia.gov
  • Delegate Clarke N. Hogan (R) - House District 60 South Boston (804) 698-1060 Fax (804) 698-6760 email: DelCHogan@house.virginia.gov
  • Delegate Johnny S. Joannou (D) - House District 79 Portsmouth (804) 698-1079 Fax (804) 698-6779 email: DelJJoannou@house.virginia.gov
  • Delegate Beverly J. Sherwood (R) - House District 29 Winchester (804) 698-1029 Fax (804) 698-6729 email: DelBSherwood@house.virginia.gov

TALKING POINTS and FACTS ON E-VERIFY

  • We insist on protections for American Workers and legal immigrants and E-Verify will accomplish that.
  • It is against federal law to hire illegal immigrants. E-Verify will help Virginia comply with the law.
  • E-Verify is free and has no fiscal impact on the state budget.
  • Thank you in advance for voting YES for the use of E-Verify in hiring publicly funded employees.

According to the Department of Homeland Security:

  • An employer who verifies work authorization under E-Verify has established a rebuttable presumption that it has not knowingly hired an unauthorized alien. Participation in the program does not provide a “safe harbor” from worksite enforcement, however.
  • E-Verify helps U.S. employers maintain a legal workforce.
  • E-Verify is free and is the best means available for determining employment eligibility of new hires and the validity of their Social Security numbers. It verifies a new hire’s employment eligibility, not his or her immigration status.
  • E-Verify is 99.6% accurate and 96.1% of qualified employees are cleared within seconds of a query.E-Verify is used to check workplace eligibility after, not before, an employee is hired - so it protects workers that are currently employed.


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36 Comments

  1. Not4Nothing said on 20 Feb 2009 at 7:28 am:
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    Excellent suggestion, Greg, but let me add one thing: You are almost certain to be hit with the “argument” that the files used by E-Verify have errors. As anybody even vaguely familiar with large databases can tell you, they ALL have some errors. However, that SSA database is the one they use to collect your FICA taxes and send out your granny’s SS check. If it isn’t accurate enough to use for hiring why is it accurate enough for your taxes and Granny’s SS checks?

    The IRS database and Medicare database also have errors. Are we hearing that we have to immediately shut down collecting taxes and paying medical bills? Of course not!

    People who are initially flagged as ineligible have sufficient time to correct the error, if, in fact, there is one. The final non-confirmation percent is a bit over 5% - about the same as the estimate of the percentage of our workforce made up of illegal aliens. Coincidence? You tell me…..

    For the last several years we have been hearing over and over how our “low” unemployment rate is an indication that we need all of these illegal workers. The unemployment rate has been artificially low for years because it only reflects a part of those workers who are unemployed or grossly under-employed. But even if you took the open borders crowd at its word, that old excuse is kaput.

  2. Anonymous said on 20 Feb 2009 at 9:52 am:
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    Saslaw will make sure it is killed.

  3. legal2 said on 20 Feb 2009 at 11:13 am:
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    traitors from the top down, “Obama tells Spanish Radio: Immigration Reform Coming” - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89463

  4. I Bleed Obama Blue said on 20 Feb 2009 at 11:14 am:
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    You do realize that undocumented workers using legitimate SS#s that don’t belong to them will skate under the E-Verify radar, right? Also, know this:

    • The SSA’s OIG found accuracy problems in the NUMIDENT file used to check employment eligibility status, estimating that about 17.8 million records have discrepancies with name, date of birth or death, or citizenship status. About 13 million of these incorrect records belong to U.S. citizens.

    • The Government Accountability Office has said that E-Verify still “is vulnerable to employer fraud that diminishes its effectiveness and misuse that adversely affects employees . . . such as limiting work assignments or pay while employees are undergoing the verification process.” These problems, although known since 2002, remain unresolved.

    • The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services commissioned an independent analysis of E-Verify that found that out of a sample of employees who received “final non-confirmation” notices, 42 percent were “false negatives” and were eligible to work. The analysis also found that “employers do not always follow federally mandated safeguards for the . . . program”, and that the employers took adverse action against an employee because of a “tentative non-confirmation,” even though it is illegal.

    • During an E-Verify pilot 30% of employers reported restricting work assignments while employees contest a tentative non-confirmation. Among the 67 employees who decided to contest a tentative non-confirmation, 45% reported one or more of the following adverse actions: were not allowed to continue working while they straightened out their records, had their pay cut, or had their job training delayed.

    •Current law also prohibits employers from pre-screening job applicants before making a hiring decision, yet some employers were doing just that. The SSA’s OIG found that 42% of employers used the program to prescreen employees, and 30% of employers used the program to verify the employment eligibility of their existing workforce. In 2002, the independent analysis found that, “[a]mong a sample of individuals classified on the transaction database as unresolved tentative non-confirmations, 28% said that they did not receive a job offer from the pilot employer.” Also, these job applicants were not informed they were being pre-screened through the employment eligibility verification system, and “[c]onsequently, they were denied not only jobs, but also the opportunity to resolve any inaccuracies in their Federal records.”

  5. Cynic said on 20 Feb 2009 at 1:17 pm:
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    Yes, I also read that. I know that the votes are there to give the illegals amnesty, but those of us opposed to amnesty should make them pay as high a price as possible for being the traitors that they are.

  6. Mark said on 20 Feb 2009 at 2:04 pm:
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    Time for every American born in a hospital to be implanted with a chip or given a tattoo with a barcode….

    Blehhh….just do away with our current form of government and start over. Make it perfectly legal to shoot any illegal found crossing over our borders.

  7. DPortM said on 20 Feb 2009 at 3:01 pm:
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    Bleed - Let me guess, you work for the Chamber of Commerce?

    Read what DHS says. Visit the ICE website. Become informed by viewing the facts…

    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=bca6fa693660a110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=75bce2e261405110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD

    Get the results of a study conducted last year, before you post outdated information about E-Verify.

    An independent study between April and June of 2008 by Westat found:
    • 96% of employees were verified instantly
    • 0.4% had to contact the government to resolve record errors
    • 3.5% received final non-confirmations, meaning they were illegal aliens not having the legal right to work

    Please go spout your misinformation elsewhere…

  8. Maureen said on 20 Feb 2009 at 3:40 pm:
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    I Bleed Obama Blue, The “inaccuracies” or discrepancies for eligible workers are usually a woman that has gotten married and has not changed her name for Social Security or a wrong middle initial. Both of these should be taken care of and are easy to accomplish.
    No data base is 100% accurate and you can make all of the excuses you want to. There is no valid reason why an employer should not use E-Verify, especially since it might protect them if they are caught with illegals in their employ.
    Also, there are always unscrupulous employers that exploit their workers and that is still no excuse not to use E-Verify.

  9. Mark Wolfe said on 20 Feb 2009 at 4:41 pm:
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    I’ve used the system in my business. It works. I have urged our officials at the state and federal levels to require its use.

  10. Maureen said on 20 Feb 2009 at 5:17 pm:
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    Mark Wolfe I’m glad to hear that.

  11. Anonymous said on 20 Feb 2009 at 5:43 pm:
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    Let’s now start to bombard our elected officials (won’t get much help from Spider WEBB or No I’m not John Warner) to demand NO ANMESTY for ALL illeglals (this includes Obamarama”s aunt who is still in this country after being ordered to leave.) Interesting isn’t it that she was ordered to be deported a number of years ago and ICE knows where she is but has done nothing to remove her from this country. That wouldn’t be considered preferential treatment now, would it? NAW!

  12. Mighty Putty said on 20 Feb 2009 at 6:57 pm:
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    I called everyone on the list today. It only took a few minutes. Everyone was very polite and took my name and phone number. Interestingly enough, only Senator Saslaw’s aide asked where I lived. I guess he will disregard my call, since I don’t reside in the Springfield area. He should defintely be a target in the next election cycle, after what he did to keep any immigration reform legislation from leaving committee.

  13. fed up said on 20 Feb 2009 at 8:23 pm:
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    Mark said on 20 Feb 2009 at 2:04 pm: Flag comment
    Time for every American born in a hospital to be implanted with a chip or given a tattoo with a barcode….
    Blehhh….just do away with our current form of government and start over. Make it perfectly legal to shoot any illegal found crossing over our borders.

    I couldn’t agree more. As I said before, you no pay hospital bill, you no get US birth certificate.
    As far as crossing the border, I think it’s only fair to give a warning shot and then …..

  14. Not4Nothing said on 20 Feb 2009 at 9:02 pm:
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    The only point that “I Bleed Obama Blue” makes that actually has any validity is that a person using a valid SSN illegally could slide through. The solution? Simple: Send out those letters to employers that indicate that a SSN might be being used improperly and make it mandatory that they actually do something about it. There is a way to note that a SSN is being used by more than one person. No problem. The one soft spot of E-Verify is EASILY corrected.

    While we are at it, make it mandatory that letters be sent to ALL people using that SSN or better yet to the person who has been using that SSN consistenly for years. Wouldn’t you want to know that 15 illegal aliens were using your SSN if that was what was going on? I would. You could then present evidence that you were, in fact, the legal owner of said SSN and the rest could be taken care of.

    As for using the database to prescreen potential employees or to verify existing employees, what’s wrong with that? I’m all for it! If you are illegal, you are illegal. If you aren’t, you get cleared in seconds or you have ample time to indicate otherwise.

    Forget 2002 data, we’re talking 2007 or 2008.

    Nice try though, Bleeding Blue., but no cigar. Time has passed you by.

  15. citizenofmanassas said on 20 Feb 2009 at 9:45 pm:
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    I bleed,

    Hmm, you start to feel the heat and then stay away for a few days. Typical liberal, can’t stand to answer questions so you run and hide. Why don’t you come back down to the other thread and answer those questions?

    Of course there is no one perfect system to prevent illegals from working. But, this is better then the current system.

    BTW, how do you like the market reaction to the mess put out by the “One”? Even your fellow euro libs are not behind the plan. The interest rates and inflation that is around the corner because of the “bail out” passed by the libs in Congress will do exactly what you libs have worked for the last forty years-destroy America.

  16. Pat.Herve said on 21 Feb 2009 at 10:01 am:
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    there is not perfect system. the system can have errors, yes.

    If E-Verify is implemented, in the case of a denied identity, the person should have a reasonable amount of time (60 days) to resolve the issue before the employer needs to deny them employment. This will clean up the system of errors.

    What to do - well, we are doing what we do best - stagnation, bickering and nothing. The usual, do nothing because it will impact the minority of people, instead of doing things that will possitivily impact the majority of people.

  17. Anonymous said on 21 Feb 2009 at 12:23 pm:
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    I Bleed Obama Blue apparently needs a transfusion, and quick. It seems his mind has been affected by the loss of blood and thus his thinking has been greatly impaired. He has a blood type problem (Obama Blue )so it will be hard to find someone to “transfuse” him. Good Luck with the bleeding, Obama Blue!!!!

  18. I Bleed Obama Blue said on 21 Feb 2009 at 3:17 pm:
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    Citi, baby -

    Gee, I had no idea how much you miss me when I’m not around. I haven’t seen your Qs yet, but I’ll be sure to answer when I get around to it. Unlike you right wing nut jobs, I have a full life that keeps me pretty busy.

    If only the market was reacting to President Obama. Unfortunately, it hasn’t found bottom yet. Nice attempt @ projection on your part, though.

    You know, your boy W took the hardest shot @ destroying America that I’ve ever seen.

  19. just_curious said on 21 Feb 2009 at 6:02 pm:
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    I bleed is a tool…nuff said about that. I bleed where have you been? a jenny craig convention? Everyone better hide their donuts around you.

  20. Black Saint said on 21 Feb 2009 at 7:14 pm:
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    We are now seeing that the Illegal Aliens can not only impact this Nation but the global economy as well. The majority of the Sub-Prime loans & initial defaults were to Illegal Aliens that started the unraveling of the Global Economy! Just like our Declining standard of living, Bankrupt Hospitals, Failing Schools, Welfare costs, Identity fraud, Welfare fraud, Voter fraud, Gangs, Crime, Crowded prisons, Destroyed communities, Exploding population, Congested roads, Pollution, Insurance costs, Balance of payments, (Imported oil etc. to support the illegal alien population) Trashed Constitution and the Rule of Law, they have now spread their negative impact & misery across the Globe.

    Are the infrastructure and construction bailout jobs program more of the same old scam?

    We really need the infrastructure and construction jobs without E-verify so we can put the millions of Illegal Aliens back to work, so they can send money home to support Mexico! The contractors can charge the tax payers union scale, hire Illegals at slave wages, pocket the different s, and the tax payers pay both the wages and the billions in cost to educate the illegals many spawn, provide medical, welfare and prison cells.

    If so, then it is the same old scam, reward the Rich and the invading horde of illegals Aliens and soak the tax payers that have obeyed the laws, paid the taxes and fought the wars and built this Nation!

    You would think the Politicians would be content with just outsourcing all the jobs that are possible but No they want to bring in Slave labor ( while ignoring Article IV Section IV of our Constitution against invasion, the rule of Law, and their Oath of office) to take the jobs that cannot be outsourced! To add insult to injury they make the American citizens still working pay billions in extra taxes to educate, provide medical, welfare and jail cells for the invading horde that are taking our jobs and driving down our standard of living! While keeping busy Robbing, Raping and Killing American citizens at an rate that Bin Laden can only dream about!

    The Democrats love the millions of Welfare votes. Many of the Republicans love the slave labor for their Pay Masters in the Chamber of Commerce and business. So there is little or no hope for American citizens and the future viability of this nation as we know it.

    If we are realistic and look at the havoc caused by the millions invading Hispanics on our communities, culture, crime, economy, welfare, taxes, environment, schooling and standard of living the only conclusion possible is that no Nation can withstand or assimilate Millions of citizens from another culture, that come here for the jobs and welfare, while keeping loyally to their home countries!

    This Nation is changing to the very same type of culture and society the invading millions have created, built and sustained for 100,s of years and are now fleeing in their own Countries!

    One has to only look at Calif. which is basically an Bankrupt state that cannot afford to provide Welfare, Schooling, Medical, Prison cells etc. for millions of MS-13 Gang bangers, Drug dealers, Rapist and other assorted Criminals and third world rejects from Mexico! In a very few years it will be impossible to see where Mexico ends and Calif. begins as both will be an third world cesspool!

    The future is an over populated, Spanish speaking third world Nation that is an Cesspool of Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery modeled on Mexico!

  21. Greg Stiel said on 21 Feb 2009 at 7:53 pm:
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    I Bleed Obama Blue

    . Every effort to enact immigration legislation must expect to meet…two hostile forces of considerable strength. One of these is composed of corporation employers who desire to employ physical strength (broad backs) at the lowest possible wage and who prefer a rapidly revolving labor supply at low wages to a regular supply of American wage earners at fair wages. The other is composed of racial groups in the United States who oppose all restrictive legislation because they want the doors left open for an influx of their countrymen regardless of the menace to the people of their adopted country.

    To paraphrase Will Rogers, it’s not the warnings you don’t hear that hurt you; it’s the ones you hear and don’t heed.

  22. citizenofmanassas said on 22 Feb 2009 at 4:32 pm:
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    I bleed,

    As I said, you are lik the typical liberal who when comfronted with questions you can’t answer you run away. Of course I’m not saying you have to spend every day on here, but don’t run away from threads in which you make a fool of yourself, and then just simply refuse to answer in reply.

    Thanks for calling me a right wing nut, I’ll take that over being called a lib any day.

    The market is falling because investors have no confidence in the “one”. Obama thinks by spending all of this money on pork things will get better. Well, obviously he did pay attention when Carter was in office.

    Again, I will ask, either liberals really do hate America, or they simply are not very smart when it comes to economics.

    Also, I thought you libs were “progressive” yet all you can do is look back and blame Bush. Sorry, but with the Dems controlling Congress since 2006, that makes your excuse for obama failing not valid.

  23. citizenofmanassas said on 22 Feb 2009 at 4:33 pm:
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    Black Saint,

    Sad but true.

  24. Mighty Putty said on 22 Feb 2009 at 8:19 pm:
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    Anyone else besides me make any phone calls? Otherwise, this is just a type and gripe session.

  25. Pete S. said on 23 Feb 2009 at 5:27 pm:
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    Immigration reform will either take place, or this country will go further in the drain. Americans do not want to do manual labor. It is a fact. A friend of mine tried to hire 6 americans this week at $22 per hour. Only one showed up. Yea, these people really want to work. Please. You people are dillusional. Would you get up at 6 a.m and go pull weeds all day for $12 per hour? Sure you would! The $22 my buddy was offering was for average landscapers and he still can’t get people to go to work. Sick! Lazy american workers is what caused illegal immigration. Oh yea, he uses E-Verify. Lucky him. I’m sure glad I am retired and moving to the Caribbean. Good luck to any business owner who has to try to hire americans to do any type of manual labor. Your better off giving up your business.

  26. citizenofmanassas said on 23 Feb 2009 at 7:55 pm:
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    Pete S,

    You are full of SHIT. Lazy Americans? That is why America is the greatest Country in the history of the World. That is why people want to move here, because rather then leave.

    Nobody hires landscapers at $22.00 dollars an hour. What caused the illegal alien issue are Countries like Mexico that are run by incompetent leaders who can’t manage a paper sack let alone an economy.

    Illegals make up less than 5% of the work force, which means there are plenty of “lazy” Americans who are doing manual labor.

  27. Pete S. said on 24 Feb 2009 at 8:14 am:
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    If illegals make up less than 5% of the work force, why does everyone say that illegals are taking americans jobs? What you fail to realize is that more americans would rather sit at home and collect welfare and unemployment than would rather go out and work for their money. It’s a fact. The problem with america is not illegal immigrants. It is LAZY americans. Yes, LAZY! Ah, time to go lay on the beach and do nothing all day. Fortunately, I have the money to do so! Gotta love it. Have a good day whacko.

  28. Pete S. said on 24 Feb 2009 at 8:18 am:
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    Oh by the way, the $22 was legit. It was a Davis-Bacon job. Still can’t hire people. Nice!

  29. Greg L said on 24 Feb 2009 at 9:33 am:
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    Pete S. misses the point in typical liberal fashion.

    Let’s say illegal aliens make up 5% of the work force, as he suggests. In some industries, such as construction, that figure is tremendously higher. BLS is saying that the total employment in the US is about 142 million. That means there’s about seven million illegal aliens unlawfully working in the United States, which seems a little low, but let’s go with that for a while.

    If you have a job, this is just a meaningless statistic. If you’re a recent entrant into the labor force, this means a whole lot more. Unemployment among recent high school graduates is about 20%. In urban areas, that figure jumps well over 50%. Where’s your opportunity to gain experience and start climbing the ladder to prosperity when you have to compete with cheap illegal alien labor? Illegals depress prevailing wages, making it even harder since the few jobs you might be competitive for pay less, making it even harder to get ahead. If young African-Americans bear a disproportionate burden as a result of unlawful employment practices, are we just supposed to ignore it and accept this as the national price we pay of “only” 5% of the labor force being illegals?

    I seem to remember a time when liberals actually cared about the difficulties these folks faced.

    I hear pretty frequently from folks who didn’t get jobs because they couldn’t speak Spanish. An auto body mechanic in Manassas Park, a construction worker in Williamsburg, a bank teller in Manassas, a High School kid who wanted to bus tables in Haymarket. Because their employers had decided to avail themselves of the savings that accrue from unlawful hiring practices, these people face a much harder challenge getting a job. That 5% number means a lot to them, because they’re some of the ones paying the price.

    Right now the number of illegal aliens in Virginia is pretty close to the number of unemployed American citizens. If we actually bothered to enforce our laws, these unemployed Americans would have a much easier time finding work, because there would be jobs available. You want to call them lazy and shiftless, fine. I don’t see it that way. I see a lot of people frustrated that they can’t find work while illegal aliens are drawing paychecks. When the next election comes around, I’ll bet these American citizens are going to vote with me, rather than liberals such as yourself who clearly don’t give a hoot about them and even go so far as to insult them.

    Seven million. We could significantly address the national unemployment problem if we could just replace illegal aliens in the workforce with unemployed Americans, but you don’t even want to give them a chance to get a job and care not at all that the burdens fall disproportionately on minorities and youth. Call ‘em lazy. Go for it. Let’s see how that works out.

    Is this what Obama meant by “hope?” Permanent poverty and dependence for urban minorities for the benefit of illegal aliens?

  30. Pete S. said on 24 Feb 2009 at 9:44 am:
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    Oh I get the point. And before I head out for my first Bloody Mary on the Beach, let me tell you this. Newport News Shipbuiling (which hires only americans) has hired 1,230 people in the past year. Guess how many of the 1,230 were fired because of missing time or insubordination. Try 560. That is almost half of the people they hired. The majority of these people were African Americans. Is it just coincidence that 560 people didn’t want to work or is that just the luck of the draw? I was talking with a young man here in the Bahamas yesterday who moved here as well. He has two brothers who live in Indiana. Both were offered construction jobs at $14.00 per hour. Neither of them took the offer and instead are collecting unemployment. So, both sides of the story have merit. I know illegal immigrants are a problem in the states. But so are lazy americans. If you don’t believe that, then you are kidding yourself. There is always the solution of heading to St. Croix and having bloody mary’s at 10:00 a.m!

  31. citizenofmanassas said on 24 Feb 2009 at 5:42 pm:
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    Peter,

    Because 5% of the work force is made up of illegals, that is too many. Are you an American? If so, I guess you are the lazy type you talk about.

    Illegals are the problem from stealing jobs to raping children, to stealing the identities of others.

    Sure, there are some Americans who would rather suck off the system, we call them liberals. But for the vast majority of Americans it was hard work that made it possible for them to enjoy life and made America great.

    There was a story in the MJM a couple of years ago, that talked about a local company that hired immigrants. The company said it had problems hiring Americans at $8.00 an hour, but to immigrants from Mexico where the average pay was a dollar a day, $8.00 an hour seemed like a lot of money. Of course in this area it is impossible to support a family making $8.00 dollars an hour, the Company did not admit that, and the one immigrant who said he can send money home each month also did not mention his housing situation which most likely involved living in a house with many other people.

    Does that make Americans lazy for not taking a job they can neither live right or support a family?

  32. DPortM said on 25 Feb 2009 at 8:48 am:
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    Senator Colgan promised yesterday to fully support E-Verify in the budget and do everything in his power to make sure it stays in the budget.

  33. citizenofmanassas said on 25 Feb 2009 at 1:36 pm:
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    DeportM,

    Did he also tell you about the sign on his desk? The one that says (I’m paraphrasing, since I can’t recall the exact wording) I will not make promises to support or not support a Bill, and that I reserve the right to change my mind up to the point of voting?

    Last year when I was in Richmond on lobby Day, I stopped by his office and while talking with him noticed the sign.

  34. Dave in PWC said on 25 Feb 2009 at 6:01 pm:
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    Well Pete S. if you get fired or let go for cause you can’t collect unemployment in Virginia, so I don’t know about your 560 NNews employees that you talk about. How do I know this? Because it happened to me and I appealed and appealed and was refused unemployment money.

    If only I hadn’t sent that one email…

  35. citizenofmanassas said on 26 Feb 2009 at 8:07 am:
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    Dave,

    Yup, that is correct. Pete is just full of it. Notice he has not posted for a few days.

  36. Sthrn Rattlesnake said on 5 Mar 2009 at 3:56 am:
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    I see a lot of wet dreammers in here!
    Greg, the viruses your network sends has demaged several government computers, you are scoring badly on your tests!

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