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Help Save Manassas Tuesday

By Greg L | 3 March 2009 | Illegal Aliens, Manassas City, Prince William County | 50 Comments

Help Save Manassas will have their monthly meeting tonight at Manassas City Council Chambers.  If you want to get a handle on all the legislative action in Virginia related to the illegal alien problem, or understand what’s happening in Prince William County, this is the place to be tonight.

See you there.

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  1. Arlington Minority said on 3 Mar 2009 at 9:20 am:
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    What a contrast between Prince William County and Mexifornia where “corrections” officials declared yesterday they no longer will bother to lock up repeat illegal alien offenders, who, after being deported, reenter the US illegally to commit new crimes.

  2. Cynic said on 3 Mar 2009 at 10:32 am:
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    Mexifornia is down the tubes. The productive citizens are leaving and the parasites keep on rolling in there. How long can this process continue without dire consequences? …. Wish I knew!

    And, according to the anti’s more illegals in PW Co. means less crime and less illegals means more crime. Finally, illegals only commit 1.6% of the crimes in PW Co.

    They are the most law abiding ethnic group in the Nation. That’s why illegals make up about 30% of the federal prison population but, about only 4% of the total population.

    I will suggest that at tonight’s meeting that HSM members stand up strongly against anyone who comes there to support the illegals. At a Help Save Maryland and some other meetings in Montgomery Co. Md. supporters of the illegals did attended the meetings. At one of the HSMont. meetings, one of attendees mentioned that he was there to find out what local issues were of concern to the community. He then proceeded to tell us he worked in the Obama campaign and was looking for a position with the new administration. Did hear one person say that he did not trust the community guy. I wonder why!

  3. Greg Stiel said on 3 Mar 2009 at 10:39 am:
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    Playing by the rules just does not work in this country anymore.
    Enter the country illegally? No problem. We’ll just make you legal.

    Don’t pay your income Tax? No problem , You may or may not get your appointment to the cabinet seat.

    lie on your loan documents so you can barrow more than you could ever hope to pay back. No problem. the good citizens who are dumb enough to pay their taxes will bail you out.

    Lie, cheat and steal is the mantra.

    Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

  4. DPortM said on 3 Mar 2009 at 1:31 pm:
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    Two of the Anti-bvbl ladies - Alanna Alameda and Cindy Brookshire have both attended HSM meetings.

  5. fed up said on 3 Mar 2009 at 2:39 pm:
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    Amen, Greg S., AMEN! And I say that with great sadness.

  6. fed up said on 3 Mar 2009 at 2:49 pm:
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    check out this song!


  7. Cynic said on 3 Mar 2009 at 9:36 pm:
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    DPortM said on 3 Mar 2009 at 1:31 pm:
    “Two of the Anti-bvbl ladies - Alanna Alameda and Cindy Brookshire have both attended HSM meetings.”

    Do you think they would welcome one of our Black Velvet members to one of their parties or functions?

    Greg’s comment on PC. That is so correct. Plus PC is a tool of the Marxists. They use to sow discontent and confusion among the general population.

  8. Cheetah said on 4 Mar 2009 at 12:21 am:
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    I hope they hide the donuts when the anti chicks are around, could get costly trying to feed them.

  9. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 4 Mar 2009 at 8:20 am:
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    “Do you think they would welcome one of our Black Velvet members to one of their parties or functions?”

    To be fair, they have done that.

    Some of you are very upset with those women for having an opinion and voicing it.

  10. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 4 Mar 2009 at 9:12 am:
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    This is FUNNY!
    “Feeling threatened by growth of U.S. residents in Mexico”
    I guess Americans are just trying to acquire a “better life” huh?

  11. Rocky said on 4 Mar 2009 at 10:51 am:
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    Note to Fed Up

    Thanks for posting that YouTube. I’ve shipped it off to quite
    a few people and plan on posting it on several message boards
    in Ohio and Pennsylvania this afternoon. Its great!

  12. Cynic said on 4 Mar 2009 at 12:53 pm:
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    Not only “FUNNY”, but also ironic


    I am all for those Mexicans who do not want American immigrants, or any other immigrants in their Country, screwing up their way of life, etc. I hope that the Mexicans are more successful than we have been in thwarting the invasion of immigrants to this Country.

  13. Anonymous said on 4 Mar 2009 at 12:55 pm:
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    obama lied, the economy died!

  14. TDB said on 4 Mar 2009 at 2:23 pm:
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    THE JOB - URINE TEST (Whoever wrote this one deserves a HUGE pat on the back!)

    Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don’t have to pass a urine test.

    So here is my question: Shouldn’t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their rump–doing drugs, while I work. Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check? I guess we could title that program, ‘Urine or You’re Out’.

    Pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don’t. Hope you all will pass it along,though. Something has to change in this country — and soon!!!!

  15. DPortM said on 4 Mar 2009 at 4:50 pm:
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    Fed UP - great song!

    Patriot - where ya been? Welcome back! It is ironic that the Mexicans don’t want the Americans in their land destroying their culture!

    TDB - I agree.

  16. Johnson said on 4 Mar 2009 at 4:56 pm:
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    How will the streets of Mexifornia look this year?

  17. JENA said on 4 Mar 2009 at 6:00 pm:
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    TDB- I love it.

  18. Cynic said on 4 Mar 2009 at 7:12 pm:
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    Would you, by chance, consider adding politicians to the list of those that should take drug tests?

  19. SickOfThem said on 4 Mar 2009 at 10:43 pm:
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    Great. Just great.


  20. Sthrn Rattlesnake said on 5 Mar 2009 at 3:32 am:
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    Greg, if you, your gang of buddies, the police, ICE and everyother crook not doing its job the way it is supposed to has not scared most of us, or do you think that if we are down to some not even half million that have been deported or jailed by racism, what is that against the millions of immigrants that are still here in the USA?
    Minimum we are 45 million strong in this country and what you and the boys are doing is just like what was done to the blacks during Selma to Montgomery or have you forgotten our history?
    Your crooks and puppets will run out of money before you can put us all out of this country, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO,WAKE UP, STOP HAVING WET DREAM GREG!
    What are you going to do with all of us who have full documentation Greg when the mud slide comes towards you? Believe me, I will see the day soon in which you will be running like a chicken and you might just have a hard time jumping the fense some leather necks are erecting at the border, you will be a prisoner of your own cage son!
    You are a full, you are a clown and you are a nobody!

  21. Anonymous said on 5 Mar 2009 at 6:38 am:
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    And you CAN’T SPELL!

  22. fed up said on 5 Mar 2009 at 8:05 am:
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    And, Rattlesnake, you sound like an ignorant a$$hole!!!

  23. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 5 Mar 2009 at 9:00 am:
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    Rattlesnake just proved why lack of assimilation will cause problems down the road. Hey rattlesnake, did you read the article I posted about Mexicans in Mexico worrying about culture being changed due to Americans moving in? Thoughts? Please enlighten us with your vast wisdom!

  24. Mr. Anon said on 5 Mar 2009 at 10:57 am:
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    Mr. Snake just proves that inmates should not be allowed to have computer and internet access. Mr. Snake, please stay off the websites and go back to having quality time with your boyfriend in the privacy of your cell.

  25. TDB said on 5 Mar 2009 at 12:32 pm:
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    Cynic said on 4 Mar 2009 at 7:12 pm: Flag comment


    Would you, by chance, consider adding politicians to the list of those that should take drug tests?


    The answer to your question is:YES!!!

  26. Greg Stiel said on 5 Mar 2009 at 12:58 pm:
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    Anyone notice this?

  27. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 5 Mar 2009 at 1:05 pm:
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    Greg, yes…I saw the article. I believe the numbers are largely due to illegal immigration…NOT….legit citizens having children.

  28. John Galt said on 5 Mar 2009 at 6:24 pm:
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    The funny thing about “the snakes” comments is how telling they are. It’s about demography. Latino natives and immigrants, whether legal, or illegal, have a much higher birthrate than non-Latinos. Abortion, the scourge of the African American community, but marketed by their liberal “benefactors” as a good thing, will ensure that blacks are relegated to a permanent minority status. Other Non-Latinos (ie. cucasians and asians) are “too busy” to have children at anything close to replacement rates. So what we are looking at in the very near future is not a “multi-cultural” US, but a Bi-cultural US. Bi-Cultural countries are some of the most unstable in the world. At best, we’d end up looking like Canada. At worst, Bosnia.

    Now, some of this may be mitigated by eventual “assimilation” by future generations of Latinos, into the broader American culture. However, unlike past immigrant waves, this one has been particularly resistant to “assimilation”, and the PC-blinded general public is willing to change traditional America, to accomodate these new immigrants.

    Please remember, Latino culture has long been part of the greater US culture. Anyone who has studied the history of the US South West could agree with this. But this wave, the “post 1986 amnesty” wave is decidedly different.

    So, what should we “Red-Blooded Americans” do? Either start having babies, or get used to the idea that at some point in the future, the US will be a “Hispanic Country”. I am not saying that this is a “bad” thing, just an envevitable thing, unless demography changes. If you don’t believe this trend will bear out, just look at the Netherlands, Belgium, or any Western European Country. These countries are trending the exact same way, except they are becoming Muslim countries. Belgium and the Netherlands are already majority Muslim.

  29. Cynic said on 5 Mar 2009 at 9:32 pm:
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    JG - Right. Of the biggest supporters of a low birth rate are and were the environmental groups like the Sierra Club, Defenders of Wildlife, and the World Wildlife Fund. They told us to limit the size of our family, but then they they DOUBLE CROSSED us by supporting not only immigration but illegal immigration. I detected this Double Cross and inconsistency early on and never donated one cent to them.

    In fact I think it was Numbers USA who also pointed out this double crossing hypocritical position - running propaganda campaigns for less children while campaigning in support of more immigration - of the Environmental Groups.

    And, of course, we all know how sensitive the illegals are when it comes to conservation and environmental issues.

  30. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 6 Mar 2009 at 10:56 am:
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    1. The amnesty back in 86′ caused the major problem we are facing now.
    2. Current “illegal workers” that are being paid under the table less than legal wages would become “legal workers”. Therefore, once legalized they would be in a position to demand a legal higher wage from their employers. Employers who benefit from these “low wage illegal workers” would no longer want these newly “legalized” workers because it would eat into their profits. As a result, these employers would seek “new illegal workers” to fill in the slots that the previous illegal workers filled. The gigantic pool of now legalized workers, due to amnesty, will now need public assistance. The new illegal aliens would keep coming in droves like they have in the past. So the cycle is never broken. It only gets worse and worse and we get further and further into debt due to more people becoming dependent on public assistance. Can our country afford this? NO. You liberals out there make NO sense with your arguments for amnesty. These facts are common sense and you cannot rationalize any form of amnesty or pathway to citizenship or whatever the new phrase is!

  31. Anonymous said on 6 Mar 2009 at 12:12 pm:
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    BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 4 Mar 2009 at 8:20 am: Flag comment

    “Do you think they would welcome one of our Black Velvet members to one of their parties or functions?”

    To be fair, they have done that.

    Some of you are very upset with those women for having an opinion and voicing it.

    Opinions are like noses, everyone has one!

  32. 999 said on 6 Mar 2009 at 12:16 pm:
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    A frightening article in today’s 6 March Washtimes …. Says in effect that if the drug war in Mexico worsens, all that cross the border supposedly to get away from the fighting will probably be given refugee status in the U.S. Too Scary!

  33. 999 said on 6 Mar 2009 at 12:23 pm:
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    Rattlesnake…..tastes just like chicken!

  34. 999 said on 6 Mar 2009 at 12:31 pm:
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    The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 6 Mar 2009 at 10:56 am: Flag comment


    Don’t forget the chain immigration these “newly legalized” iillegals will bring. You’re talking about 100 million more in just five or six years.

  35. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 6 Mar 2009 at 2:12 pm:
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    Who writes this stuff? One just needs to open ones eyes to see that the net “gain” is larger than the net “loss”. Always funny to see how these stories are spun! So a few people “say” they are moving back (who knows if they really do or not). However, the influx of illegal aliens is much larger than the outflux of a “few”.

  36. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 6 Mar 2009 at 2:17 pm:
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    So much for “assimilation” and the “melting pot”. The following quote from the article says it all: “The National Association of Hispanic Journalists has long cautioned journalists against using the word “illegal” in copy and headlines.”
    Isn’t the whole point of the “melting pot” to think in terms of doing things for the good of America in general (regardless of where one might come from)? Why would there need to be an ethnic-based journalist association?

  37. park'd said on 6 Mar 2009 at 3:05 pm:
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    I’m all for people having their opinion about something when they walk the walk that they talk. If they live in a neighborhood devastated by illegals and still think that illegals are great and that we should just be good Christians and live and let live and all that jazz then by all means that is great and more power to them. What gets me is them coming down on us for taking issue with illegals from the comfort of their all upper middle class white demographics, manicured lawn neighborhoods in Clifton while they rail against us for being racists. If you don’t live here and deal with the crap on a daily basis then STFU.

  38. Walter E. Kurtz said on 6 Mar 2009 at 3:16 pm:
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    More often than not, the supporters of the illegals are making money off them in some way. They employ them, teach them, sell them houses, lend them money, etc. We’re goring their ox.

  39. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 6 Mar 2009 at 4:03 pm:
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    The Christian thing to do is to let “illegals” and their supporters know that what they are doing is wrong (i.e., fraud, identity theft, stealing benefits that they are not entitled to, coveting what others have, etc. etc. etc.). That is Christian love. It helps them to turn away from that sinful behavior. True Christians will realize that what they are doing is wrong and that they need to turn away from that behavior. What illegals and their supporters are doing is WRONG. We know it, they know it. It is called “tough love”. People that aid and abet illegals are assisting illegals in furthering their “sinful” activities.

  40. Cynic said on 7 Mar 2009 at 10:27 am:
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    I do not know if deporting all the illegals would be considered christian ( and if it is unchristian I could care less) but I sure would like to see t deportation become a reality. Also, I will shed no tears for the immigrants - legal or illegal - in “high tech positions” who are leaving the USA for positions in other countries. Less people; less problems!

  41. rebelreggie said on 8 Mar 2009 at 7:47 am:
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    Crowd gathers to protest immigrant detention center
    By Staff Reports

    Published: March 7, 2009

    FARMVILLE — About 150 people have gathered here today to protest plans to build a privately-run detention center for illegal aliens.

    Immigration activists and organizations from across the state descended on the town to hear speakers and music before holding a march later today. The protest is expected to end at 5 p.m.

    Opponents hope to derail plans for the privately owned, 1,040-bed detention facility, though Town Manager Gerald J. Spates has said efforts to build the facility are on track, with the site cleared and the permits obtained.

    “We are here to say no to the construction of this new detention center,” said Gaudenzio Fernandez, an immigration activist from Manassas. “We should all come together.”

    The contract to operate the facility will be between U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the town. A subcontractor, ICA-Farmville, will run the $21 million, 125,000-square-foot facility.

    Town officials have said the center will provide 200 badly needed jobs and an $8.2 million payroll and generate $716,730 in taxes annually.

    Opponents are using the late-November death of Guido Newbrough in the Piedmont Regional Jail’s illegal-immigrant detention center against the project. — Jamie C. Ruff

  42. Dave in PWC said on 8 Mar 2009 at 10:00 am:
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    Wow, Mr Fernandez sure gets around. Wonder who bought his bus ticket this time?

    On another note, the Fugitive of the week in the MJM is…. another hispanic. That’s two for two now. The paper hasn’t said if he and the other one that was arrested for killing the guy housesitting are illegals, yet.

  43. Karla H said on 8 Mar 2009 at 11:42 am:
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    Some great comments on here…

    “Shouldn’t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?’ - TBD … excellent!

    “white demographics, manicured lawn neighborhoods in Clifton while they rail against us for being racists” - park’d … excellent!

    and then some not so great…

    “what you and the boys are doing is just like what was done to the blacks during Selma to Montgomery” - strn rattlesnake… ludicrous! Blacks are citizens. Illegal aliens ain’t. Illegals are lawbreakers… by definition. The first thing they did when they entered out nation was violate our laws.

    Great board, Greg. A lot of newsworthy stuff I can’t find elsewhere as well.

  44. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Mar 2009 at 12:59 pm:
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    “When an alien is able to acquire lawful immigrant status and especially United States citizenship, that alien is able to move freely among us and also travel easily in and out of the United States.”

  45. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 9 Mar 2009 at 8:38 am:
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    Okay. This lady is just speaking the truth! Pressure needs to be placed on supervisors and others who are part of the “aiding and abetting” problem due to inaction and/or poor policy decisions!

  46. JM said on 9 Mar 2009 at 10:38 am:
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    Just doing the work Americans won’t do, such as cleaning our houses, and committing crimes at the same time:


    This is one case where the victims got what they deserved. They hired an illegal, in all likelyhood didn’t inquire not care about immigrations status, paid her under the table and no one withheld nor paid taxes. How are they repaid for their “enlightened” ways? They are robbed blind!

  47. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 9 Mar 2009 at 1:55 pm:
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    I perform all work around my place if I can. For all work that I need a contractor for, the contractor must provide me proof that they only use legal workers (OR THEY DO NOT GET THE JOB….PERIOD). I suggest that everyone that does not already implement this practice do so. In fact, go to the “Do the Right Thing” on Help Save Manassas and talk to some of those business owners.

  48. Cynic said on 12 Mar 2009 at 3:53 pm:
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    So, now the new Adm. will try to silence Sheriff Joe of Arizona for enforcing the immigration laws under the guise that the Sheriff violated the illegals’ civil rights. Why? Maybe the embarrassment associated with not enforcing the immigration laws. No, it is just part of a pattern - silence those who oppose their wimpy, liberal policies - Talk Radio, Law Enforcement enforcing the law …… Who will be their next target?

  49. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 13 Mar 2009 at 9:42 am:
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    The civil rights thing is bogus and the opposition KNOWS IT. LEs develop “criminal profiles” ALL THE TIME. Heck you see it on TV too! The latinos/hispanics (in particular) just so happen to be the largest group associated with illegal immigration (NO ONE CAN DENY THIS FACT). Look at the news stories that come out daily and stats from the feds….who are the perps? Primarily latinos/hispanics. So get over the nonsense! When latinos/hispanics are picked up and charged for illegal immigration they try to use civil rights as a “defense”. Why? They use it as a smoke screen to continue their illegal activities because they know that the pc crowd gets crazy over it and they have no other legit excuse! Sheriff Joe is doing his job and he is doing it well! The people he is rounding up are illegal immigrants….therefore….he is doing something right! Funny…when I see stories about other illegal immigrants (non-latino/hispanic) being caught…I do not hear a word from the latino/hispanic community about those events??? Why is that???

  50. Daniel Stiel said on 24 Mar 2009 at 10:36 am:
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    Great Board… I think all illegals should pay a fee to get a Seasonal work permit, and if caught without one, should be sent to jail and serve the chain gain for approx. 1 year to earn back what they took from us. I mean lets face it, there are jobs that are here that only a Mexican can do. Like spear backer or pack mators. They will work for less, the U.S. gets revenue from the Aliens and the Business owners can save by paying less. While here, they should be under the same laws as being on Parol or Probation, needing to contact by phone a self service work permit line, and if the person fails to comply, the employer gets a notice and if continues to work that person, be fined with possible jail sentance. I dont have a problem with people from another country working here, but if they are going to do it to make more, pay less and take advantage of my Childrens future and my country. Then they should lose too. We can work together, but we have to do it right and keep it in the books. We are failing because our borders run thin. and no one can seem to enforce the rules. If we made it easier for them to come into our country, and still give them the opportunity to earn for their families, but still help the U.S. recover, (as long as they follow the rules) then maybe less will try to jump the fence and use the door. - D Stiel

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