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By Greg L | 17 March 2009 | Uncategorized | 50 Comments

Once again, have at it.  With turmoil in the RPV while allies of Tom Davis try to find a way to get him in as RPV Chairman, continued fiscal irresponsibility from congress and the annual county budget battle between those who want to keep our taxes low and those who think hiking taxes during a recession is a good idea, there is quite a bit to talk about!

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  1. 200 Grande said on 18 Mar 2009 at 12:09 am:
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    On the RPV State Central hijinks: Uh,…shouldn’t the Republican Party do whatever deemed best by Party insiders and the majority of elected officials with R’s after their name? That is the only way to win,…right?

  2. JENA said on 18 Mar 2009 at 4:33 am:
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    Frederick WAS elected by the the people not appointed. If Davis wanted to be the RPV chairman he should have run.

  3. Not4Nothing said on 18 Mar 2009 at 6:34 am:
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    Why does Tom Davis want to be chairman of RPV???

  4. Rocky said on 18 Mar 2009 at 7:18 am:
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    Tom Davis gets a “C” rating from the NRA and a “C-” from
    NumbersUSA. Is he really the one we want? Just curious.

  5. Big Dog said on 18 Mar 2009 at 7:39 am:
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    Per state law, PWC and Manassas City have voted on
    proposed/advertised tax rates for FY 2009/10 at least
    thirty days before the rates are slated to be finalized.
    Any word from Manassas Park?

  6. Mr. Anon said on 18 Mar 2009 at 8:42 am:
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    I’m sure the Dems would vote for Davis, just as they voted in most primaries for McAmnesty.

  7. AWCheney said on 18 Mar 2009 at 8:49 am:
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    Rocky said on 18 Mar 2009 at 7:18 am:
    “Tom Davis gets a “C” rating from the NRA and a “C-” from
    NumbersUSA. Is he really the one we want? Just curious.”

    Well, in that case, perhaps it will be easier for everyone, particularly the conservatives, in the Republican Party to hold the Chairman to the ACTUAL duties required of him…such as raising money for administrative operations and candidates; formulating and executing a plan for the organization of Republicans throughout the Commonwealth in effective grassroots operations (which necessarily MUST BE THAT “BIG UMBRELLA”); once again compiling an accurate and useful data base available to that grassroots through their units, as well as to the candidates; and overseeing all the other sundry projects and operations that an effective State Chairman is supposed to make sure that the State Party provides. Just maybe, if the RPV stops being the state headquarters for the ideological cookie cutter of the party (or whatever other personal agenda they might have), perhaps they’ll actually have time to be the state headquarters operation of the Republican Party of Virginia.

  8. AWCheney said on 18 Mar 2009 at 9:00 am:
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    Don’t get me wrong, Rocky…I wouldn’t necessarily support Tom Davis for the job of Chairman. I’d be more inclined to support Mike Thomas as Chairman, because I am VERY familiar with his organizational abilities, particularly in party-building, from the old days (I first met him when he just a young kid in the College Republicans, and have ALWAYS been impressed). Insofar as Tom is concerned, I’d be far more interested in how well he did as Chairman of the RNC Congressional Committee than whether his ideological score card was where I, or anyone for that matter, felt it should be. Now, if there was any indication that he would use the RPV as his own bully pulpit, THAT’S quite another story.

  9. AWCheney said on 18 Mar 2009 at 9:07 am:
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    By the way, Mr. Anon…how do you figure that the Democrats will, in any way, have even a voice in getting Tom Davis elected as Chairman of the RPV?

  10. Ron said on 18 Mar 2009 at 9:24 am:
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    Good news, bad news on the Justice Department Civil Rights Division nominee:


  11. MustangMarineWife said on 18 Mar 2009 at 10:44 am:
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    Pelosi says enforcing immigration laws is “un-american”

  12. Arlington Minority said on 18 Mar 2009 at 11:07 am:
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    MustangMarineWife–now that you’ve changed the subject to immigration, the DC Examiner this morning has an interesting article entitled, “Too Many Jobs Going to Illegal Aliens”, which makes the point of importing millions of foreign workers who bring poverty with them at the very time that the USA has an unemployment rate (of legal workers) of nearly 9 percent.

  13. Karla H said on 18 Mar 2009 at 11:35 am:
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    Topic for discussion… Obama plans to cut medical benefits to vets while boosting those of illegal aliens. How do people feel about this?

    WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The leader of the nation’s largest veterans organization says he is “deeply disappointed and concerned” after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.

    And meanwhile…

    By Chelsea Schilling
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily
    Shortly after taking office, President Obama is expected to sign a bill that could give health insurance to illegal aliens and children from middle-class families that make more than $61,000 per year.

    Last week, the House voted 289-139 to expand HR 3963, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, a federal program providing coverage to children whose families have higher incomes than those who qualify for Medicaid. The bill, sponsored by Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., renews the program for five years, increases funding from the current $35 billion to $60 billion and expands coverage from million to 11 million uninsured children.

    Does anyone have any problems with this?

  14. Arlington Minority said on 18 Mar 2009 at 11:48 am:
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    Thanks for that, Karla H. we all know that illegals get taken care of very nicely these days. In fact, we now have on record that Speaker of the US House of Representatives–third in line to the presidency–has declared enforcing the rule of law against illegals is un-American. For a video of the Pelosi statement, see:

  15. Monster_Mom said on 18 Mar 2009 at 12:22 pm:
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    And SCHIP will be available to the children in families that make as much as $80,000 a year. Tell me please why any employer would bother providing health insurance to dependent children of employees making less than $80,000 when they can get SCHIP coverage from the government? That benefit is very expensive to provide. My bet is that more employers will drop family coverage for employees because of this….

  16. Brian Leeper said on 18 Mar 2009 at 12:37 pm:
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    “Any word from Manassas Park?”

    Manassas Park has, as of last night, voted to advertise a $1.70 tax rate.

    Well, I should say:

    Polk, Kassinger, Jones, and Miller voted to advertise a $1.70 tax rate.

    Naddoni and Farrell voted to advertise a lower tax rate of $1.55, if I recall correctly.

    They are also talking about charging separately for trash pickup. The estimated charge would be $14 per month, billed on the water bill.

  17. Logical Thinker said on 18 Mar 2009 at 12:43 pm:
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    Like Tom Davis or not, recall that when he was Chairman of the House GOP election effort, they broke ALL records electing republicans. And don’t forget, a number of the ones he worked hard to GET elected were far more conservative than he was. TD understood that at the end of the day, you have to run people in districts who can win those districts. For example, Bob Marshall is perfect for the 13th in PWC. He wouldn’t stand a chance in Arlington. So sometimes party chairs have to support less conservative candidates so the GOP can control committees, whether in Congress or the General Assembly.

    As far as organization goes, RPV is so pathetically out of it, no serious elected person or anybody who seriously wanted to get elected, would turn to this organization, really. Again, like him or not, TD can run big operations and would whip RPV into shape real fast.

    Look I don’t agree with TD on guns, but if we are honest, if we want a Chairman who is a proven money raiser, campaigner, and organizer, TD would fit the bill.

    I honestly have no idea if he’s even interested, but I think you’ll find a number of conservatives who understand that if we want to keep control of the House, win the Governor’s mansion, and win back the Senate, it won’t be with the current leadership team at RPV.

  18. Cynic said on 18 Mar 2009 at 1:09 pm:
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    Let’s just all hang in there! You will not have to wait much longer until they have a deportation program - no, they would call it something else like a resettlement program - where those citizens with a family history of being here the longest will be the first to be resettled to another location and it will not necessarily be to their country of origin. Could most likely be any Country that the ruling elite wants to help or hinder.

    We are preaching to the choir here. Why don’t we prepare a list of all US Reps. and Senators who support illegal aliens instead of their eligible to vote, tax paying, citizens and then distribute or make the list available to the public?

    After we do this at the federal level, we should do it for the States and localities?

    What would we call it? First suggestions - THE LIST OF TRAITORS or

    Maybe such a list already exists?

  19. Mark said on 18 Mar 2009 at 1:31 pm:
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    Arrrgghhh!! Why is Peolsi the Speaker???? She is not for LEGAL Americans, she’s for the ILLEGALS. View this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/pelosi-tells-illegal-immigrants-work-site-raids-american/

    I can’t freaking believe how screwed up my country has become.


  20. Big Dog said on 18 Mar 2009 at 1:51 pm:
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    Mr. Leeper,
    Thank you for the info on Manassas Park’s proposed
    FY 2009/10 tax rate.

  21. Johnson said on 18 Mar 2009 at 1:58 pm:
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    I’m just sayin’….

  22. Kingsley said on 18 Mar 2009 at 2:15 pm:
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    Where are you getting the idea that Tom Davis has any interest whatsoever in that crappy job? This is about Jeff Frederick’s activities and job performance and nothing else. Throwing Tom Davis’ name out there is just a red herring so that Frederick supporters can get the base fired up by painting this thing as a “moderate vs. true conservative” fight.

  23. Brian Leeper said on 18 Mar 2009 at 2:26 pm:
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    “Mr. Leeper,
    Thank you for the info on Manassas Park’s proposed
    FY 2009/10 tax rate.”

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s just for FY2010. FY2009’s tax rate remains the same. The new assessments will be effective June 1st. MP changed the assessment date to coincide with the fiscal year.

  24. Karla H said on 18 Mar 2009 at 2:51 pm:
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    Personal opinion… the pump is being primed, folks… we all know that the media is nothing more than the voice of our government. They provide no “news”, only opinion. It cracks me up when I read in the Washington ComPost how we should grant illegal aliens amnesty, and then I go to any one of their chat boards and people are invariably 100% against any amnesty. Geez, and then WaComPo wonders why they are going broke.

    Anyway, you will note that in the media lately there have been a lot of articles about Mexican drug cartels (yeah, like these are new), and how they are moving into the USA. Could it be that we are being primed to have some of our military serving on our southern border? We can only hope. Obama is winding down our war efforts and the grunts will have to earn their pay somewhere.

  25. citizenofmanassas said on 18 Mar 2009 at 3:30 pm:
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    More “good” news from obama.


  26. Anonymous said on 18 Mar 2009 at 4:29 pm:
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    Johnson said on 18 Mar 2009 at 1:58 pm: Flag comment


    I’m just sayin’….

    …..and based upon ethnic populations you will find the the “fertile Myrtle” latinos lead the pack. They have two main prioritys. Guess what the first one is?

  27. Anonymous said on 18 Mar 2009 at 4:33 pm:
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    Karla H said on 18 Mar 2009 at 2:51 pm: Flag comment
    Could it be that we are being primed to have some of our military serving on our southern border?

    I believe your statement is correct. But it is not to stop the drug problem. It is to make sure the refugees from the drug war are not injured when they cross the border to seek protected status.

  28. Cynic said on 18 Mar 2009 at 4:39 pm:
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    “In the meeting CHC members made “absolutely clear that this is the civil rights issue of our community and that we will all be judged on how we act on this issue,” added Gutierrez.”

    That’s right. We need rights for our citizens, not illegals - who should all be deported.

    And judged by whom? A bunch of liberals, open border kooks and their illegal alien supporters. They may all go to h*ll.

  29. Emma said on 18 Mar 2009 at 4:42 pm:
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    “I can’t freaking believe how screwed up my country has become.”

    Pelosi sneers at all of you working-class rubes. Especially those of you who think the medical needs of wounded veterans should take precedence over the medical needs of illegal immigrants.

    I am outraged at this slap at our veterans, a story that was well hidden on page A4 of the Post, while all of the faux outrage over the AIG bonuses dominated the front page. The president and his cronies are playing all of us, trying to get us all worked up over a few million in bonuses while even more outrages are being committed. And the press is complicit in keeping some of those outrages well below our radar. When this president gets visibly upset, he’s simply trying to distract your attention so you won’t notice yet another liberal sleight-of-hand that will come right out of your pocket.

  30. Anonymous said on 18 Mar 2009 at 4:54 pm:
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    With the blessing of our government. What a country!


  31. Anonymous said on 18 Mar 2009 at 4:59 pm:
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    They only come here to help their family.


  32. chucky said on 18 Mar 2009 at 5:17 pm:
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    while all this is happening the fatties from haymarket are sitting there in their haymarket homes laughing it up, but soon the joke will be on them when their homes are invaded by 3rd world scumbags from mexico. it’s like an infestation, it’s horrible and it’s only getting worse.

  33. Greg Stiel said on 18 Mar 2009 at 5:30 pm:
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    Obama makes his move


  34. es_la_ley said on 18 Mar 2009 at 5:43 pm:
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    Old Dominion Gun show

    April 4th & 5th

    VFW Post #1503, 14631 Minnieville Rd, Dale City

    Opens at 9:00 am. Get there early!

  35. michael said on 18 Mar 2009 at 5:53 pm:
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    Since this is open thread…

    I just posted this to www.recovery.gov
    If any of you give a damn about our future I suggest you tell your story to the people (Obama’s staff) reading recovery.gov and searching for answers on what to do about this mess….

    This economic crisis has hit my community in ways I never thought possible in America. It has changed my political life, my community involvement, and significantly reduced my optimism for any healthy economy and global status I feel the US has given over to international interests.

    Like many in my community I saw it coming before many in positions of government leadership did. Our housing market collapsed in my community around June 2007, and then bad things began to run underground in the financial market without any of us seeing it, but noticed it first in the stock markets rapid collapse 10-15 Sep 2008, when I sold every stock I had and moved everything I owned into the FDIC protected bank and Money Market funds (I kept wishing I could get out of 401K and IRA accounts without penalties) and thinking WHAT caused that? Why the wide-scale abuse of hedge funds and short selling? Why are banks refusing to lend money to each other, are they not BANKS anymore? I first became aware of the housing problems and collapse of housing as I saw my community demographics change from a predominantly upper middle income neighborhood to a predominantly low income neighborhood in an extremely short period of time (4 years). The demographics of my community changed as well, from a community of lawful and law abiding citizens to an extremely rapid influx of “illegal” aliens that had utter disregard for the law. This rapid influx had extremely negative effects on my community. It reduced the overall median income, increased significantly the presence of extremely dangerous gangs (SU-13, MS-13, LJC, and others), increased community architectural covenant violations, disregarded community zoning and building code laws, and created slum-like living conditions and appearances in neighborhoods who property values sky-rocketed with initial demand and then plummeted with the decline in overall community appearance and decrease in wealth. So many of us wondered what the root cause of such rapid decline in our community standard of living was at the heart of such rapid changes. First in the town of Herndon Virginia, then throughout Prince William County Virginia, residents saw a significant increase in loitering, and panhandling for low income jobs, with an effect that angered citizens because of the trash, public urination, graffiti, harassment of business owners, and decrease in citizen safety and security in vacant lots adjacent to these places of loitering. Citizen’s began to demand enforcement of existing laws to remove this obvious decline in community values and appearances, that affected the profitability of local businesses and the price of median income homes as multiple families and individual “illegal” immigrants began to turn single family dwellings into cheap apartments for rent by word of mouth and exterior cultural signals. Citizens in our community began to be aware there was a political element deeply entrenched in government positions of authority that advocated for and defended political activities based on favorable treatment and legal protection of targeted “protected class” ethnicities, genders, races and religions, that became even more important than enforcing the existing community laws on all citizens the same. These political leaders represented many family members of previously “illegal” aliens that were given amnesty in 1986, and over a 25 year period slowly began to exercise their political views based on ethnicity, and ignoring the US constitution, the laws against prejudice and racial advantages of one ethnic group over another, rather than treating each human being as an individual without any preference or discrimination entirely on ethnicity, gender, race, and religion. I noticed people in our community, and in positions of political power began to advocate only for their own political advantage based on ethnicity, gender, race and religion, rather than equal fairness of the law to all individuals the same. This problem started with the establishment of “protected classes, HUD programs and 8A policies and unfair contracting policies of the Small Business Association (SBA). It became obvious to all of us in our community, that open advocacy for ethnic privilege, and blatant preferences given to ethnicities, and refusal to execute the existing law for criminal prosecution of “illegal” immigrants, was the root cause of the housing demand, population explosion, demographic changes, income changes and increase on community social services and educational burden. It became obvious that real estate brokers were giving preference in home sales and mortgage applications to “illegal” aliens and formerly “illegal” aliens, because the community demographics changed in such a one-sided way, low-income jobs changed demographics in such a one sided way, and brokerage firms, banks, car dealers and businesses, were widely posting notices in languages many of who have lived in the US all of our lives, cannot understand. Without a common language binding people together, and without a common law that ensured all of us were “legal” and should be able to trust and respect one other as individuals, we saw instead wide spread evidence of competing ethnic groups for social prevalence, social recognition, social advantages and social self-segregation along lines of ethnicity, gender, race and religion. It is these very same activities that created the segregations of the past between white and black communities in the late 1950’s. I was incredulously witnessing a return to the 1950’s social problems, but now caused by ethnicities who had been in the US less than 5 or 10 years and who cared nothing for common law, respect for the law, or respect for common rights of individuals to be treated not as competing ethnic groups but as competing individuals.
    Instead of deciding on federal funding and AID from HUD, 8A, Fannie MAE, Freddie MAC, and community social services for individuals, it was obvious specific ethnic groups were sought out and targeted for help and mortgage assistance. It became obvious we had no system to separate “legal” people from “illegal” people, and the result of 25 years of refusing to enforce the law on “illegal” immigrants, created an open arrogance and lack of fear of prosecution that fueled massive false reporting of income to debt ratios on mortgage applications, false address reporting, false credit reporting and false mortgage insurance credit rating on loans made in the sub-prime high risk areas. Loans were not made based on “income level” but based on ethnicity, gender, racial and religious preference, something I never thought I would see in America.
    You already know the rest of the story. It took me 4 months of listening to congressional hearing to figure it out.

    When income levels dropped as the “illegals” in my community lost construction, painting and landscaping jobs (because people recognized the unfair charging of skilled labor overheads, while hiring lower income workers of less skill) and businesses failed that were based on the hiring of “illegal” immigrant labor, in the summer of 2007, most of the “illegal” immigrants and former “illegal” immigrant families who bought homes using 8A and HUD assistance were unable to keep up their highly over-leveraged mortgage payments. They were able to rationalize their over-leveraging position by thinking they could recover this in a sale of the home at any time that would always increase in value, as long as they could offered their homes out for rent to family members who were illegal and other contacts who were illegal, they ignored federal statutes making it a criminal offense to harbor or transport “illegal” aliens, in order to help them support the monthly mortgage payment on the mortgage they took out for others, or themselves while sub-letting to others on single family homes governed by single family home zoning laws, and building codes. This situation existed in 4 of the 9 homes that were in my immediate cul-de-sac. When 4.5 million of the 12 million “illegal” immigrants and 35 million formerly “illegal” immigrants defaulted on 50% of the existing sub-prime loans, the banks went into a panic, because they were left with no income, had no capital reserves to cover the losses, and were left holding foreclosed homes whose values declined by the alterations made on them by the “illegal” tenants who sub-let, or lived as individual renters in what used to be upper-middle income, and middle income homes, that used to have upper middle income and middle income home values.

    Who is to blame for the world wide economic melt-down? Everyone who refused to execute the existing law and prevent some 45 million “illegal” immigrants from creating a run away population bubble that fueled housing demand, and created ethnic-centric fraud on a wide-scale basis.

    Congress is to blame for refusing to enforce this law with adequate funding for law enforcement, by pushing organizational policies that prevented then from arresting, locating, identifying, prosecuting and deporting 45 million “illegal” immigrants over a 25 year period. Congress is to blame for refusing to support DHS policy, and supporting non-discriminating community safety and welfare charters for community law enforcement to enforce law in every community in the US.
    Congress is to blame for refusing to help people of “low income”, especially rural America, who lost jobs to foreign labor and foreign exploitation by US companies and by choosing instead to help people of specific ethnic political action groups rather than people of specific “income levels”.

    Congress is to blame for allowing the mortgage insurance industry to advocate for and obtain legislation that would permit the creation of limited capital reserves in banks, the creation of derivative products that were executed using “mark to market” rules on securities that had no underlying capital value because their was a buyer, a seller and a promise to pay a premium or interest rate between those two legal entities, that was a “fixed” capital value, over a fixed interval of time. This allowed the speculative and over-valued lunacy of market rules to be ignored for banks in terms of capital reserve requirements, the creation of a “securities insurance” industry that promised to pay losses on derivative products, with no concern for their actual capital value or “book value” based on traditional accounting practices. Such speculation artificially inflated the market, way above its underlying capital worth, and as we all know markets that are inflated drastically correct. The other lunacy was refusal to apply traditional accounting practices to hedge funds, and credit default swap securities that only had reserves to pay 10-15% losses, and no underlying capital basis securing those products I call “vapor paper”. This type of market concept and “mark to market” risk is highly volatile, especially when the securities traded are rated as AAA or low risk, when in reality they are created by the riskiest segment of the entire population, the population of “illegal” immigrants and formerly “illegal” immigrants in the US who have no regard for law or ethical behavior, or aversion to the commitment of wide-spread fraud.

    Congress is to blame for not enforcing the law, and not providing adequate law enforcement oversight, and refusal to prosecute and deport those who willingly and without remorse continue to defraud our community and receive assistance in commitment of fraud from the ethnic focused businesses and family members who support only their own ethnicity above and beyond any accountability to the law.

    The bottom line is this: fraud and illegal behavior at all levels of government, business and the community caused a global meltdown.
    The other bottom line is this: I was a Republican and now I am a Democrat. I refuse to ever put my money in “vapor paper” ever again, and will only purchase capital that is owned free and clear by only me and no one else. I refuse to left someone else to “borrow it” sell it on the market, and then pay me back later as they pocket the short sales profits on my capital asset, affecting the market VALUE of my capital asset that only I should hold. I will not do business with anyone who practices ethnic preference, and I will politically fight anyone who continues to force policy to help and support “protected classes” while they ignore all individuals of “needy” low income levels, because they prefer to help only those of specific races, genders, religions or ethnicities. I will not trust the government, the congress or the President, if they do not punish, persecute, fire and jail, ALL people who committed fraud in mortgage sub-prime loans (the “illegals” and the “ethnic centric brokers who favored only their own ethnicities enough to help them commit fraud) and ALL individuals at the heads of companies and management teams, and in the government today, who looked the other way, knowing these securities were extremely high risk, while they lined their pockets with speculative profits, got paid bonuses for failure, and got bailed out by the US government and the individual taxpayer, ME. If you do not get my money back, breaks up the companies that are “TOO BIG TO FAIL as anti-trust violations, and let these companies corrupt business units FAIL based on free market principles, so that other new companies based on higher ethical standards can grow and flourish: Then I will do everything in my power and take back my country with a grass roots effort, to ensure the ENTIRE Congress and Senate is CHANGED OUT in the next election. If you value your privileged jobs, you should listen to this good advice and LEAD rather than accept corruption, poor ethics, and lawlessness as a “normal course of doing business”.

  36. freedom said on 18 Mar 2009 at 7:11 pm:
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    Tom Davis wasn’t much of a Republican when he was in the House, I don’t know why he’d want to change or why anyone would be willing to accept his pleas now. :(

  37. sahdman said on 18 Mar 2009 at 8:27 pm:
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    I am going to write senators wiener and dweeb and ask if they can create a bill allowing Americans sell there share of AIG. If I sell my share I won’t have a vested interest in this crap.

  38. justice for all said on 18 Mar 2009 at 10:51 pm:
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    Only tax rate discussed and voted on at last night’s Council meeting was the 1.24 per hundred for the June 5 bill. Where are you getting your info re 1.70- what did Mr. Bunner do re the issue? when is it going to come to a public hearing…they will need to hold it at the armory if the proposed tax rate is 1.70 and no one will know at the time what their assessment will be..

  39. Cynic said on 18 Mar 2009 at 11:19 pm:
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    michael’s statement:

    Then I will do everything in my power and take back my country with a grass roots effort, to ensure the ENTIRE Congress and Senate is CHANGED OUT in the next election ……….

    I hope you are totally successful in this endeavor.

    But, BO is now pushing to get Congress to grant amnesty to the 20 or more million illegals already here. Unfortunately, they will be granted amnesty.

    These 20+ million will increase the number of voters in that block of voters. This new block of voters will be electing their people to Congress and other elected positions. Those politicians now in power and supporting these blocks of illegals may be in for a big surprise when the find out that they have lost their prestigious, elected positions. Of course, they can still support this new block of voters and the officials they have elected, but they will be the ones running the errands for them if they want to remain close to the power base.

    And, what do you think the new power base will do for the Country?
    Revive it or run it further into the ground - not that it can be run much further into the ground?

  40. Pat.Herve said on 19 Mar 2009 at 8:13 am:
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    Every few years, an amnesty proposition is proposed - and eventually adopted -

    Reagan did it in 1986, Bush wanted to, but could not, Obama probably will.

    But one thing that stand out, is that in the 23 years since Reagan granted Amnesty to Illegals - our country has done NOTHING to stop/prevent/deal with the illegal immigrant. Although they talk alot in congress they have done NOTHING to secure our border (ok, there is some window dressing, but NOTHING of substance).

    So, it is our elected representitives in Congress who have failed us, yet, we send them back in.

  41. Cynic said on 19 Mar 2009 at 8:29 am:
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    So, it is our elected representatives in Congress who have failed us, yet, we send them back in.

    Isn’t insanity when you do the same thing (like an experiment) over and over then expect different results by following such a course of action.

    Maybe we should abolish Congress!

    Maybe the right to vote should be more restrictive like having age and income tests and only allowing natural born citizens the right to vote.

    But then, I have been accused of being to the Right of Attila the Hun, who was not only a great guy but also a great leader even though he was - maybe - just slightly too far to the left.

  42. Brian Leeper said on 19 Mar 2009 at 8:56 am:
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    “Only tax rate discussed and voted on at last night’s Council meeting was the 1.24 per hundred for the June 5 bill. Where are you getting your info re 1.70- what did Mr. Bunner do re the issue?”

    If you were watching it on cable, they went into an untelevised worksession for about an hour and then went back into a council meeting to vote on advertising a $1.70 tax rate. I believe that was televised, but I doubt anyone was watching it, most viewers would have thought the meeting was over.

    I was actually there and saw the whole thing.

    Mr. Bunner voted for advertising a $1.70 tax rate.

  43. Brian Leeper said on 19 Mar 2009 at 8:58 am:
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    “when is it going to come to a public hearing…they will need to hold it at the armory if the proposed tax rate is 1.70 and no one will know at the time what their assessment will be..”

    Public hearing will be in April. 2nd Tuesday, I believe. Confirm with the City’s meeting calender on the website in a couple of weeks.

  44. Big Dog said on 19 Mar 2009 at 9:37 am:
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    Mr. Leeper,
    Thank you for the follow up - of course all
    the rates - PWC, Manassas City, MP - are proposed
    tax rates that will not be finalized until after legally
    mandated public hearings within the next thirty days.
    May I suggest citizens attend the one in their local
    jurisdiction and share their views.

  45. Karla H said on 19 Mar 2009 at 10:45 am:
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    EXCLUSIVE: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently told a group of both legal and illegal immigrants and their families that enforcement of existing immigration laws, as currently practiced, is “un-American.”

    The speaker, condemning raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, referred to the immigrants she was addressing as “very, very patriotic.”

    “Who in this country would not want to change a policy of kicking in doors in the middle of the night and sending a parent away from their families?” Pelosi told a mostly Hispanic gathering at St. Anthony’s Church in San Francisco.

  46. justice for all said on 19 Mar 2009 at 1:35 pm:
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    thanks Brian or your update on the tax rate in M.P. $ 1.70 is absurd…only cuts in city budget seem to be to our wallets…a public hearing on this rate Without FIRST knowing what home assessments wil be is tantamount to issuing a blank check…

  47. Karla H said on 19 Mar 2009 at 8:29 pm:
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    “The Los Angeles City Council unanimously approved an ordinance Wednesday requiring certain home improvement stores to develop plans for dealing with day laborers who congregate nearby in search of jobs.

    The ordinance mandates that proposed big-box stores obtain conditional-use permits, which could then require them to build day-labor centers with shelter, drinking water, bathrooms and trash cans.”

  48. rebelreggie said on 24 Mar 2009 at 7:37 am:
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    What’s Wrong with Canada’s Healthcare System?
    By: Dr. Val | March 23, 2009
    This post is a continuation of my discussion of foreign healthcare systems, and what the U.S. can learn from them… I’ve summarized one particularly provocative and outspoken Canadian’s opinion below:

    Is Canada’s healthcare system a political monopoly?

    Dr. Brian Crowley is the Founder and President of the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies in Halifax, Nova Scotia. He describes the Canadian healthcare system this way:

    Canadian Medicare operates in an unregulated, tax-financed, pay-as-you-go model. Our provincial governments are our monopoly provider. They not only pay for necessary care, but they also govern, administer, and evaluate the services that they themselves provide. They define what we call “medically necessary services” and pay for 99% of all physician services. They also forbid the use of private insurance for medically necessary services. They set the budgets for nominally private healthcare institutions. They appoint the majority of their board members and have explicit power to override management decisions.

    Under these circumstances, no hospital or hospital administrator can be expected to take any responsibility or initiative because decisions will always be second-guessed by those in political power.

    Before the advent of competition in our telephone industry, dissatisfied customers faced the massive indifference of a bureaucracy that took their business for granted, despite some theoretically powerful regulatory agencies. Administrators of the Canadian healthcare system likewise suffer no direct consequences for poor customer service. They aren’t even answerable to a regulatory agency. Accountability is a vague political concept which cannot be enforced in any meaningful way. Like all monopolists, Canada’s healthcare authorities abuse their positions of power.

    Dr. Crowley argued that the provincial governments have no desire to measure how many people are waiting for health services, how long they’ve been waiting, or how many people leave Canada to get treatment south of the border. (He claims that the U.S. is Canada’s secret safety valve.) Apparently the province of Ontario contracted with New York State for cancer care for their patients when wait times became politically untenable.

    A couple of years ago, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the healthcare system violates Quebec’s charter of rights because it collects taxes, promises healthcare in return, forbids competing suppliers and then often doesn’t deliver the care. The justices summarized the situation this way: “A place in a queue is not healthcare.”

    Canada-wide average wait times for surgery is 17.8 weeks, though in Saskatchewan, wait times for hip replacements are as long as a year and a half. That’s after a physician has ordered the surgery. Getting to see a physician in the first place is very difficult. Statistics Canada reports that 1/5 of Canadians do not have a family doctor.

    In Canada, family physicians are the gatekeepers of the health care system. Patients cannot obtain access to specialist services without having a general practitioner referral. The doctor shortage is so severe now that doctors have begun resorting to lotteries to kick people off their patient rosters, (see Tom Blackwell, MD Uses Lottery to Cull Patient List, National Post, August 06, 2008); and Canada is about to face a wave of retirements in the system that will greatly exacerbate the shortage.

    As for the comparability of wait times in the US and Canada, Dr. Crowley suggests reviewing a letter from a U.S. physician published in the Wall Street Journal a few years ago (Susan Weathers, M.D., published April 30th, 2004). Dr. Weathers works in a county hospital and in reference to her uninsured patients she writes,

    [The Canadian health care system] resembles the county hospital where I work. Our patients pay little or nothing. They wait three months for an elective MRI scan and a couple of months to get into a subspecialty clinic. Our cancer patients fare better than the Canadians, getting radiotherapy within one to three weeks. The difference is that our patients are said to have no insurance (a term used interchangeably with “no health care”), whereas Canadians have “universal coverage.”

    Dr. Crowley suggested that the Canadian healthcare system has become an unresponsive monopoly though it wasn’t supposed to be that way. It was designed to usher in a “grand era of choice.” It was supposed to be a healthcare system in which people would be able to get all the healthcare they needed without having to “worry about the cost.” Dr. Crowley concluded that “some of the ideas bandied about in Washington will lead to the worst features of the Canadian system without that having been anybody’s intention.”

  49. rebelreggie said on 24 Mar 2009 at 4:03 pm:
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    In a time where so much is being made about our first black president, Ann Coulter made the following observation in her column on 2/25/2009:

    ”But as long as the nation is obsessed with historic milestones, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become speaker of the house?”

  50. citizenofmanassas said on 25 Mar 2009 at 3:13 pm:
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    Obama had nominated this guy to be head of a “civil rights” division within the Department of Justice. However, Obama decided to drop the nomination. A good thing if even half of this article is true.

    Civil Rights: The open-borders crowd eagerly awaits the nomination of one of its own to a key Justice Department post, a man who has dedicated his life to promoting illegal immigrant “rights.”President Obama is expected to appoint Tom Saenz as the nation’s top civil-rights enforcer. It’s a key appointment because Obama has promised to “reinvigorate” the division Saenz will lead. And the Civil Rights Division carries a wide-ranging portfolio, covering everything from hate crimes and police misconduct to voting rights and redistricting laws.

    All this power will likely be turned over to Saenz, who was a top lawyer for a radical Hispanic group that wants to cede California to Mexico. Saenz is credited with killing Proposition 187 in California against the wishes of 60% of voters. That law would have denied welfare to illegals.

    At the time, Saenz was vice president of litigation for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, or MALDEF, whose co-founder has exulted: “California is going to be a Mexican state, we are going to control all the institutions. If people don’t like it, they should leave.”

    Saenz has also sued California cities to establish “hiring halls” for illegal day laborers so that they can have a place to urinate. In fact, protecting day laborers against “anti-immigrant” sweeps is one of his top priorities.

    He has agitated for “a federal court decision which would settle (the issue) for all time,” and now he may have his way. Loitering illegals may soon have total freedom to harass store customers and drink and relieve themselves in public.

    He would also crack down on local law enforcement officials who help ICE deport illegals. When the LAPD tried such collaboration, Saenz demanded “punishing all wrongdoers.”

    In fact, the way Saenz sees it, no illegal alien should be rounded up.

    “Currently in California, thousands and thousands of people live in fear because of widespread Border Patrol sweeps,” he said. “It is critical that comprehensive immigration reform includes nondiscrimination against people on the basis of immigration status.”

    By reform he means amnesty. “At a certain point,” he said, referring to the 20 million illegals in the U.S., “people have earned a right to stay here with their families.”

    In addition to amnesty, he wants to give them full access to government benefits, including Social Security. “We treat undocumented immigrants as a separate class from which we take and do not give,” he complained.

    Obama ran on a promise of uniting all Americans, not those who broke into the country illegally, and his selection of Saenz couldn’t be more divisive.

    And now, with Mexican drug-gang violence spilling across our borders, this certainly is no time to put an open-borders extremist in charge of policing police.

    Source: Investor’s Business Daily

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