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It’s Not Time To Throw Away The Rules

By Greg L | 20 March 2009 | Prince William County | 64 Comments

The Prince William Board of County Supervisors will vote in April on a proposed amendment to allow parking on gravel on properties of less than one acre, modifying Section 32-300.02 of the county code entitled “Accessory Uses.” I’d link to that code section if the county website wasn’t continuously horked up and nearly useless for the purposes of finding important information about Prince William County Government, so readers will have to take my word for it that right now, creating a gravel driveway is not permitted under current zoning rules and this proposal seeks to remove that restriction.  I think the current rule is a good rule for the community we have, and that it’s not only unnecessary to change it but that doing so could adversely impact the way our community looks and feels.

Most of the instances I’ve seen where someone breaks the rules and expands an existing driveway with a gravel apron for additional parking happens with overcrowded houses.  With ten or more people in a house, the on-street parking tends to fill up rather quickly, and sometimes the solution for these tenants has been to start laying gravel in the yard to accommodate some of the extra vehicles.  Houses that aren’t overcrowded don’t tend to need to expand off-street parking for four additional vehicles.

So what would a change to this rule accomplish?  Quite simply, it would make it easier to overcrowd single family residences.  We’ve had enough of that.  Just a few short years ago, before the passage of the Rule of Law Resolution, residential overcrowding reached outrageous levels that affected far too many of us.  One of the things that marginally helped to make overcrowding happen were rampant violations of other zoning laws, such as those which regulated parking in grass, and parking on gravel.  Since it was so tremendously difficult to enforce residential overcrowding laws as written, having other zoning enforcement opportunities helped to address the larger problems that were far more challenging.  Without these opportunities to put rampant lawbreakers under an array of scrutiny, the next time we face such problems we’ll have a pretty powerful hand tied behind our backs.

If you can’t stop the fifteen unrelated people crammed into a three bedroom house who falsely claim they are related through overcrowding laws, you can start scrutinizing the parking, garbage disposal, noise, and every other impact in the hopes many of the tenants will get the message and stop being such a blight on the community.  It’s not a perfect solution, but constrained as we are by liberal activist law firms, determined lawbreakers, and the realities of the legislative process, it’s about all we’ve got.  We dearly need each and every tool at our disposal.

So take some time and contact your Supervisors.  You can get to them all by emailing bocs@pwcgov.org .  Tell them that relaxing zoning rules helps us not at all and puts our community at risk.  This decision can’t be made solely from the perspective of where we are now, but where we again could be.



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64 Comments

  1. DPortM said on 21 Mar 2009 at 6:19 am:
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    Thanks for this post, Greg. Everyone opposed needs to e-mail our Supervisors @ bocs@pwcgov.org as soon as possible.

  2. Common sense said on 21 Mar 2009 at 6:50 am:
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    I think you’ve taken a “logic leap” here and perhaps mischaracterized what’s going on. Most of the homes in Dale City and Manassas Park were built for one car families. Of course, now most families own 2-3 cars and Dale City streets (for example) are filled with cars. This simple zoning change allows people to move their cars off the street.

    While the issue you bring up may exist, I doubt it correlates to the gravel issue. First, the folks you describe probably don’t care about zoning anyway and will ignore the rule (if they even bother with gravel… way not just park on the grass). Second, your logic impacts the majority of tax paying, law abiding homeowners who live in older homes and simply want relief from parking their cars on the street. By the way, gravel is better for the environment as it is a permeable material. We now understand that asphalt and concrete roads and driveways are not good for the watershed (and most people don’t know that water is a finite asset. There’s only so much water in the world and we can’t make more).

    It would be worth understanding what actually drove this rule before taking what may be perhaps an unfounded position on it. Do the “rest of the reporting” (since it’s your story) and let us know what you find out.

  3. me said on 21 Mar 2009 at 9:20 am:
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    I already have emailed mine and the rest of the BOCS. I got a response from 1 person who doesn’t support it. Another office said that hadn’t heard much from anyone on this topic.

    We dont want this in our neighborhood. It was taken care of 7 years ago and now someone has tried to undo what good was done years ago…..why do we have to keep fighting the same fight?

  4. What I know said on 21 Mar 2009 at 9:47 am:
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    Thanks Greg, we needed you to out this in here.
    I have been hounding the Supervisors for about a month now. Don’t get much of a responce. Finally did hear it was going to be in April. Heaven forbid that the real Citizens of this County finds out before it actually comes up.
    This will destroy our neighbohoods. It will allow tons of gravel to be put down in the yards,front and rear.Just who does this benefit? We already have overcrowding in the houses and with all these forclosures and investors buying them up, even China is coming to buy. We will have more people in one house than we’ve ever seen before.
    I say why did we get a Code Enforcement and then Neighborhood Services? Why can’t we let them do their job? There are rules to follow and I am sure they will be glad to go after these violators. If the Big Wheels will just stop trying to accomodate the Illegals and Overcrowding.
    In our area they don’t have trash service,they may take it to the dump,but I have my doubts.
    With Obama’s latest Directive, we are facing a really big mess. We all need to let him know we don’t want this and for him to recend his Order.
    People are getting fed up.

  5. Vigilant1 said on 21 Mar 2009 at 10:44 am:
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    Whose brainstorm was this idea? Take a ride through Westgate, expecially in the Westmoreland and Spotsylvania streets and take a good look at the blight of having vehicles parked on the grass and someone has thrown a few bags of gravel. There is absolutely no need to have gravel driveways in this or any other area. When you see six or seven vehicles parked at a 3 bedroom residence there is little doubt as to what is going on there. Has the BOCS made some announcement that they will be having a vote on this subject? I have not seen nor heard of this before Greg’s announcement. This is too big of an issue for the board not to have made the public aware of the upcoming vote. Property values in PWC have still not hit the bottom and changing the code to allow overflow parking on lawns with some gravel spread around will only further compound the problem. All we need now is for the BOCS to change the law to allow one or two junk vehicles and a few couches to be kept on the property next to the gravel mudhole called a driveway. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB!

  6. Anonymous said on 21 Mar 2009 at 12:59 pm:
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    I say if it’s too dumb to be true, it probably isn’t. This may be a case where it would only be allowed in rural areas by permit only, or something of that nature. Only an idiot would think of allowing people to pave their yards with gravel when housing prices are already depressed. Unless of course you’re a member of MWB!

  7. Karla H said on 21 Mar 2009 at 4:00 pm:
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    Great site, Greg! You cover a lot of issues that I cannot find elsewhere. Keep up the great work!

  8. anon said on 21 Mar 2009 at 4:41 pm:
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    Common Sense -

    Do you work for the nuts who came up with idea. You sure have bought the talking points hook, line, and sinker.

    Why don’t you take a drive through Marumsco Woods and look at what a crap hole it is with all of the driveways and the pisspoor way they are maintained.

    Gravel in our yards - just what we need to enhance home values …….

  9. me said on 21 Mar 2009 at 5:21 pm:
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    Hey if you thought the front yards were bad think of what it would look like if people filled their rear yards with that crap and how many cars would be back there then.

    Common Sense, you sound very much like some of the county staff did when they reported back to the BOCS with an explanation as to WHY this was put into the upcoming zoning changes….If your intent is a greener way to handle rain water there is a large array of options these days that don’t include unsightly gravel. Perhaps you didn’t work or live in the county 7 years ago when we the community spoke and the BOCS listened.

    Now because some people want a greener way to handle things and other people feel sorry for the expense that people have to go through to expand their driveways we are beating the same horse we did 7 years ago. We got what we wanted back then and we will hopefully be able to keep that intact. We want our communities’ appearance to be maintained especially those of us that do not live in a HOA community.

  10. Johnson said on 21 Mar 2009 at 6:54 pm:
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    They just want to make room for all the new arrivals after the amnesty.

  11. What I know said on 22 Mar 2009 at 8:49 am:
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    This is for real folks.It will come up in April. So be prepared. If you don’t fight this ,then we are really heading down the wrong path.

    This is for those Reidentials that are an Acre or LESS. It will affect those areas that do not have HomeOwner Assoc.
    Go drive through the Yorkshire area, Old Belmont and you will see how we will end up with GRAVEL>

    Somewhere it must have been a Dumb Brain Storm of a Staff. Who else would want this???

    How many Families have grown up in small single family house with their children driving cars? We have not had a problem with one family and their children finding a place to park.

    Go look on the week ends and see all the vans parked,look to see how many ladders and etc are sticking out of them. This is not our children

    You guess who,as you won’t believe me. Open your eyes as to what is going on.

  12. Anonymous said on 22 Mar 2009 at 9:31 am:
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    What I know said on 22 Mar 2009 at 8:49 am: Flag comment
    You guess who,as you won’t believe me. Open your eyes as to what is going on.

    There is no need to guess. WE KNOW who is responsible for all of the white vans top-heavy with ladders. I guess the more ladders they have piled up on the vehicles gives them more importance. MUY MACHO! NOT! Got to have at least 15 ladders to be an expert drywaller, huh?

  13. Johnson said on 22 Mar 2009 at 1:35 pm:
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    I just picked up 200 rounds (10 boxes) of .223 55 grain FMJ at Dick’s Sporting Goods for $9.98 a box. Go get your zombie ammowhile supplies last!

  14. A PW County Resident said on 22 Mar 2009 at 6:16 pm:
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    I think you guys need some real help sometimes.

  15. anon said on 22 Mar 2009 at 9:06 pm:
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    I don’t if the reason the county wants this is to benefit the illegals. I think they want to allow gravel because that means less work for employees.

    I think it’s sadly hilarious that one of the reasons the county gives for wanting to allow gravel is that paving is so expensive.

    If cost is going to be the standard, then just THINK of all the things that houses need to be well-maintained that are expensive. And then think of the cheaper alternatives ….

    Hmmm, I’m thinking of digging a well in my backyard now; maybe I’ll switch to well and septic…. Goodness knows, it’s less expensive than PWCSA!

  16. Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2009 at 7:04 am:
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    You guys want the ethnic cleansing of PWC to continue. All you want is pretty neighborhoods without any brown people! Get a life!

  17. Johnson said on 23 Mar 2009 at 7:35 am:
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    Ignore button activated.

  18. Good Time Charlie said on 23 Mar 2009 at 8:37 am:
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    One man’s ethnic cleansing is another man’s compliance with the law.

  19. anonymous said on 23 Mar 2009 at 9:13 am:
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    Isn’t it somewhat racist to suggest that certain ethnic groups should not have to comply with the law?

  20. Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2009 at 10:16 am:
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    Resident antibvbl wackjob Katherine Gotthardt just posted the following stupid theory on antibvbl: “So the reason the schools want to track races is so GL and his nut-crew can run after anyone with a last name that sounds “foreign”? Is that it?”

    She needs to change her antibvbl name from “Posting as Pinko” to “Posting as Stupid”

  21. long time said on 23 Mar 2009 at 10:53 am:
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    Dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of. While “common sense” speaks truth, Greg points out the cold hard facts. Besides, strictly enforcing the current rule for a paved driveway would offer a defacto economic stimulus to the construction indudtry!

  22. Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2009 at 11:13 am:
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    Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2009 at 7:04 am: Flag comment

    You guys want the ethnic cleansing of PWC to continue. All you want is pretty neighborhoods without any brown people! Get a life!

    Yes, we want pretty neighborhoods and we accept brown people that are LEGAL citizens of this country; not the cockroaches who have poured over the border to enrich their lives and molest and rape our children.

  23. Good Time Charlie said on 23 Mar 2009 at 11:54 am:
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    Best post I’ve read in months. (Anonymous on 23 Mar att 11:13 a.m.)

  24. Chicken Little said on 23 Mar 2009 at 12:18 pm:
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    Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2009 at 7:04 am: Flag comment

    You guys want the ethnic cleansing of PWC to continue. All you want is pretty neighborhoods without any brown people! Get a life!

    Hey Mackie - your girlfriends at anti miss you - go harass them for a while -

  25. DPortM said on 23 Mar 2009 at 3:37 pm:
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    Ditto with Anonymous @ 11:13.

    We welcome anyone of any skin color in our neighborhoods in PWC - as long as they are legal residents or citizens of this country & and they obey our laws.

  26. Wondering said on 23 Mar 2009 at 4:58 pm:
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    Since when has antibvbl ever been about the truth? In the latest thread your good friend Posting as Pinko just got caught in a lie, as she has been caught many times in the past. If I want the truth, antibvbl is the LAST site I’d visit!

  27. Bob Wills said on 23 Mar 2009 at 5:16 pm:
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    The real reason for this coming about is because you can not park a Trailer, Boat , Campers or other such like items on many of the streets in PWC. There is also no other place to park them and limited rental space. If you parked them on your property they had to be on a “paved ” area. I own none of the above either just one truck. Then comes the thought of how to get by the county enforcer who had nothing better to do then put on notice that you boat was on grass and you are violating the law. So the paved blocks were put down where the wheels touched the ground so the county could not say it was not on a ” paved ” surface. Now what is the county going to say but then the hassel starts. There is a limit to the amount of area one can pave over on your property so the county can stop the whole front yard from being paved. You will notice that Greg has never said anything about the County or the BOCS from VIOLATING THE ZONING law when it comes to putting up cell towers that are not three times the height from the property line. Small thing but then so is the law when it suits thier personal agenda.

  28. Greg Stiel said on 23 Mar 2009 at 7:38 pm:
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    Jose Angel Gutierrez, founder of La Raza: “We have got to eliminate the Gringo. And what I mean is, if worse comes to worst,we have got to kill him”

    Get a GUN!!!

  29. AWCheney said on 23 Mar 2009 at 9:11 pm:
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    “Hey Mackie - your girlfriends at anti miss you - go harass them for a while -”

    They won’t put up with him over there anymore either, Chicken Little. You can bet he’s getting desperate when he tries his excrement over here!

  30. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 7:42 am:
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    AWCheney - if anyone is a racist it is YOU.

  31. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 7:47 am:
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    Seems like “Whackie Mackie” has strayed from home. Someone call animal control please and have him/her checked for rabies.

  32. AWCheney said on 24 Mar 2009 at 7:51 am:
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    It’s a “he” Anonymous #2. Don’t insult my gender, if you please.

  33. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 8:08 am:
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    Bob Wills said on 23 Mar 2009 at 5:16 pm: Flag comment
    There is a limit to the amount of area one can pave over on your property so the county can stop the whole front yard from being paved.

    That limit is also not being enforced by the county. Take a ride around the Westgate area and see what I mean. There is a house on Westmoreland on the Lomand Dr. end of the street that has had the entire back yard and side of the house paved over. Five or six vehicles are usually parked there. The back yard looks like the Giant parking lot. This is only one of many properties that have had their front, side and back yards paved over to accomodate their multiple tenants. I have personally filed complaints with zoning about some of these properties but nothing has ever been done about geting them to conform to code. I won’t even start on the vehicles in the Westgate area that are still parking multiple cars on the lawns. Where is zoning?

  34. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 8:26 am:
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    At least learn how to spell wacky right if you are going to insult someone…

  35. DPortM said on 24 Mar 2009 at 10:36 am:
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    Zoning in PWC is reactive and not proactive. You have to turn all of these properties into Zoning:

    If you have a particular concern relating to zoning violations in your neighborhood, you may contact the Property Code Enforcement Group at 703-792-7018 to file a complaint, or you can fill out and submit this online form: Property Code Enforcement Complaint Form.

    http://www.pwcgov.org//default.aspx?topic=010013001320001825

    I have very good results with zoning complaints. Most of the inspectors call me with updates on a regular basis.

  36. Karla H said on 24 Mar 2009 at 11:39 am:
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    “WASHINGTON – The Obama administration plans to send more agents and equipment to the southwestern border to fight Mexican drug cartels and keep violence from spilling over into the United States.”

    1. So the border will get tightened up to fight drugs cartels… which is all fine with me! Maybe the agents will stop some illegals while they’re at it. :^)
    2. Obama has talked about firing under-performing teachers, and rewarding those teachers who do a good job. This is capitalism.

    I am no fan of Obama (or Pelosi, Frank, Geithner, … or even Bush) … but I will “take what I can get.”

    Once again… great board, Greg! I notice that my comments on Auntie-BVBL get nix’ed since they do not agree with the 2 Auntie’s beliefs. Nix’ing comments is tantamount to Nazism. The Nazi’s burned books that were against their beliefs. Only freedom of speech can bring out the truth.

  37. anon said on 24 Mar 2009 at 1:07 pm:
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    We all know antibvbl censors people’s comments that they don’t agree with. Either that, or they attack them and resort to name calling. They will call someone they disagree with a Nazi or a member of a hate group. The two lead attack dogs on that website are Shelly B and Posting as Pinko (Katherine Gothhardt). They also will label people they disagree with as racist. Of course, they all salute their resident racist Mackie as some sort of fountain of wisdom.

  38. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:06 pm:
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    Speaking of not following rules, I read that the DREAM act is about to come around again.

    I wish that I had invested my time in learning to make good videos, for a viral campaign against this act and creeping Amnesty. We should be using youtube and e-mails as our weapon against the political machine(s).

  39. Mark said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:10 pm:
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    ROFLMAO!!!! in re to Anonymous who said:

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    Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2009 at 7:04 am:

    You guys want the ethnic cleansing of PWC to continue. All you want is pretty neighborhoods without any brown people! Get a life!

    That’s Tooooo funny! Yeah, we want people to obey the laws…and THAT’S ethnic cleansing! LOL…we know which side of the fence (border) you’re on!

    Ha, ha, ha!!!!!

  40. Mark said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:14 pm:
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    BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:06 pm:
    “…I wish that I had invested my time in learning to make good videos, for a viral campaign against this act and creeping Amnesty. We should be using youtube and e-mails as our weapon against the political machine(s).”

    Yes, yes, and YES. Does anyone know how to organize something like this? This is powerful and can be used to actually show the side of normal, law abiding LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS as opposed to ILLEGALS and their perpetrators, pimps, etc.

  41. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:17 pm:
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    I’d be sure to have a scene where we see Obama Aunt Zetuni hiding her face while Obama narrated something about the importance of law or integrity or following rules or “too long have average Americans been victimized”.

    A picture of some of McCain’s 7 houses while over it he intones something about “I get it” and “I always do the right thing” while we see pictures on screen relating to the government bailout and human smuggling acroiss Arizona.

    Ted Kennedy saying something pompous while we see pictures of laid-off American workers, Americans lined up by the hundreds for jobs, and of American flags being taken down or dragged through streets by immigration-related protesters.

    Obama saying something about “Universal Health Care” while we see reports or illustrations of hospital closings in areas populated heavily by illegal aliens. More pictures of Americans lined up scrambling for jobs while some politician intones something from last year about how our economy is strong and we need illegal aliens here to grow it - while showing a headline of illegal aliens contributing to the foreclosure mess.

    I’d definitely finish it with Bush or Obama or some other crook saying something about the importance of doing this comprehensively while showing a picture pf person after person scrambling over the border, intercut with fireclosed homes, job lines, illustrations of low wages.

  42. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:19 pm:
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    Apparently “we” (I’m mostly useless) have a month or so to get good material together before we are asked to open up wide for Amnesty 2009.

  43. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYou said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:21 pm:
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    Pictures of older, helpless Americans unable to access social services or medical care because it’s all been spent. Images of angry anti-American protesters telling us how we must live and that America belongs to them, not us. All intercut with the horse**** both political parties give us. Throw in some political pundits mentioning how each party trips over themselves chasing the elusive “Latino vote”.

    Definitely show McCain giving some people the blow-off on this issue, which has happened on camera a number of times.

  44. Mark said on 24 Mar 2009 at 2:48 pm:
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    OOoo…and get something of Pelosi telling everyone how un-American it is to do raids on companies that hire Illegals! Yes!

    Then show images of the streets lined with corona bottles and loitering at the 7-elevens, or harassing women as they walk by…and then show how they demand interpreters! LOL…it would be a Laugh A Minute-fest!

  45. Karla H said on 24 Mar 2009 at 4:16 pm:
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    “The U.S. Border Patrol plans to poison the plant life along a 1.1-mile stretch of the Rio Grande riverbank as soon as Wednesday to get rid of the hiding places used by smugglers, robbers and illegal immigrants.

    If successful, the $2.1 million pilot project could later be duplicated along as many as 130 miles of river in the patrol’s Laredo Sector, as well as other parts of the U.S.-Mexico border.”

    I like this… Give Obummer a #3. In fact, use some agent orange on Bush’s ranch in Texas… I bet he’s hidin’ some illegals!

    And get some of those drones flying the border too. Some of those pilotless planes… with video cameras and machine guns!!!

  46. Karla H said on 24 Mar 2009 at 4:20 pm:
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    “You guys want the ethnic cleansing of PWC to continue. All you want is pretty neighborhoods without any brown people! Get a life!” - anomalous

    Hey, anomalous… I want all blue eyed, blond haired illegals kicked out too! You “Get a life”… learn the law… study some economics… make something of yourself.

  47. anon said on 24 Mar 2009 at 5:20 pm:
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    Karla H - just you wait - amnesty is coming and then we’ll see what you do. Better get used to it!

  48. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 5:23 pm:
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    Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 8:26 am: Flag comment

    At least learn how to spell wacky right if you are going to insult someone…

    WHACKEY, WHACKEY, WHACKEY. OKAY????

  49. Greg Stiel said on 24 Mar 2009 at 7:25 pm:
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    “”"Karla H - just you wait - amnesty is coming and then we’ll see what you do. Better get used to it!”"”

    Anybody find a good source for cheep ammo?

  50. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 10:47 pm:
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    Greg Stiel said on 24 Mar 2009 at 7:25 pm: Flag comment

    “””Karla H - just you wait - amnesty is coming and then we’ll see what you do. Better get used to it!”””

    Anybody find a good source for cheep ammo?

    Try loading your own. Takes a little work but it is worth the time.

  51. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 11:02 pm:
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    DPortM said on 24 Mar 2009 at 10:36 am: Flag comment

    Zoning in PWC is reactive and not proactive. You have to turn all of these properties into Zoning:

    If you have a particular concern relating to zoning violations in your neighborhood, you may contact the Property Code Enforcement Group at 703-792-7018 to file a complaint, or you can fill out and submit this online form: Property Code Enforcement Complaint Form.

    My post stated that was done and nothing was done. Some of these properties are in blatent violation of the zoning code as written. Apparently the zoning inspectors have blind eyes towards certain violations. Why do they not investigate a situation when they drive by a house seeing 2 or 3 vehicles parked on the lawn. Do they have to be taken by the hand to point this out. Would a police officer driving by a crime being commited keep going because he was not formally told to investigate?

  52. Anonymous said on 24 Mar 2009 at 11:10 pm:
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    Noun 1. whacko - a person who is regarded as eccentric or mad
    nutter, wacko
    eccentric, eccentric person, oddball, flake, geek - a person with an unusual or odd personality

  53. Karla H said on 25 Mar 2009 at 11:17 am:
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    “Karla H - just you wait - amnesty is coming and then we’ll see what you do. Better get used to it!” - anomalous

    In that case the “blue eyed, blond haired illegals” would get to stay too… Mr. Racist.

    Thanks, and have a great day!

  54. Anonymous said on 25 Mar 2009 at 1:14 pm:
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    I heard a rumor that Neighborhood services is behind the gravel idea. “More gravel is better for the watershed” was what I heard. I also understand that they would like to bring back clothes lines (back yard only, those clothes line “trees”) as an energy conservation measure. I hear there are other ideas “cooking” to make our County more energy efficient and friendly place.

  55. Chicken Little said on 25 Mar 2009 at 1:58 pm:
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    Wondering said on 23 Mar 2009 at 4:58 pm: Flag comment

    Since when has antibvbl ever been about the truth? In the latest thread your good friend Posting as Pinko just got caught in a lie, as she has been caught many times in the past. If I want the truth, antibvbl is the LAST site I’d visit!

    And notice how when she was called out on it, she never answered how she was able to read an article Sunday night that wasn’t posted until Monday morning! And Moon Howler jumped in to save her sorry a$$.

    Elena has been riding her high horse lately, saying that children who are here illegally are more deserving of a college education than children who are citizens. Honestly, what is going on in their minds?

  56. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 25 Mar 2009 at 5:27 pm:
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    NO AMNESTY, NO PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP for illegal aliens…..ever. Additionally, NO ZONING CHANGES. That would only give bunk houses an excuse to continue operations unchecked.

  57. A PW County Resident said on 25 Mar 2009 at 7:32 pm:
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    Why are people replying to Markie, who is clueless?

  58. Anonymous said on 26 Mar 2009 at 7:03 am:
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    They’ve defended Posting as Pinko many times when she has been caught in lies and they manage to somehow deflect criticisim of her. I don’t think anyone has been caught in so many lies on that blog as Pinko. Posting as Liar should be her name.

    Who knows why people reply to Mackie. His latest post criticizing someone for attacking a lawyer who defends illegals is classic Mackie.

    Elena - maybe she’ll sing a different tune when her children reach college age and find that they can’t get in to the college of their choice because all these Dream Act children have been allowed in!

  59. Anonymous said on 26 Mar 2009 at 9:42 am:
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    A tad off subject but it will take more than a nose job, tummy tuck and a$$ lift to make them attractive to anyone other than la Raza.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/26/more-hispanics-opt-to-go-under-the-knife/

  60. Anonymous said on 26 Mar 2009 at 9:44 am:
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    Anonymous said on 26 Mar 2009 at 7:03 am: Flag comment
    Who knows why people reply to Mackie. His latest post criticizing someone for attacking a lawyer who defends illegals is classic Mackie.

    That’s why they call him Whackie Mackie!

  61. DPortM said on 26 Mar 2009 at 11:23 am:
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    Someone who lives in Fairfax really needs to take this issue up with your Board of County Supervisors - your money is paying for services for illegal aliens:

    http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=327108&paper=62&cat=104

    Unbelievable…. people from the County are going around to day labor sites and letting the illegal aliens know where to get free services.

  62. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2009 at 5:22 am:
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    Yeah, and if you lose your job and go to the unemployment agency they look at you like you have two heads, that is if you aren’t a minority. Been there, done that!

  63. Mark said on 27 Mar 2009 at 12:19 pm:
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    Wow! And my son’s old Middle School “Franklin Middle School” was a subject of a news story on Gangs that were getting those young kids into their gangs (MS13, and others).

    That’s one reason why we moved out of Fairfax and moved into Prince William. Fairfax County has actually encouraged Illegal Immigration. You’re seeing the fruits of their liberal labor now.

    How sad that Americans are so into the “ooo, let’s not discriminate…even against ILLEGALS”.

    I can see my grandfather rolling in his grave now over the condition of this country that he fought in 2 major wars for.

    Again, this country is a joke and will go down even further. No one is willing to fight against their own government now. They’re too big! And they’ll just tell you what you want to hear anyway, which will mollify you for awhile.

    Must…eat…..Fast Food……and….sleep…….

    Sigghhh…we’re so pathetic.

  64. Anonymous said on 29 Mar 2009 at 10:17 am:
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    Wht would the supervisors want to waste time taking a vote on gravel vs grass. Take a drive up Lomand drive and look at the multiple cars parked on the grass at some houses. It used to be one car now there are two or three. Apparently neighborhood services doesn’t object to this but they will cite you for leaving your trash can at the curb after it has been emptied.

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