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Wally Covington: I See Stupid People

By Greg L | 8 April 2009 | Prince William County | 75 Comments

Has the full intellectual talent pool of the Brentsville Magisterial District been tapped out?  By the looks of who Supervisor Wally Covington is appointing to the Convention and Visitors Bureau, you’ve got to imagine this must be the case.  How else does one explain announcing the intent to appoint Katherine Mecurio Gotthardt, someone with no experience whatsoever in this arena, and a rather unique history of bizarre histrionics to boot?

The story starts with a blog posting by Ms. Gotthardt describing the call Wally placed to her in which he asked her to serve on a land use committee.  Gotthardt was as usual rather open about how she felt about this on her blog:

First, I should have told him I barely know how to read a map. That’s probably not good, is it? (Shhh….he still doesn’t know.)

If I were to do anything with land use, I would physically have to go out to the sites and draw myself pictures. Now that would inspire confidence, wouldn’t it?

Second, I have no idea how they zone things or don’t zone things in this county or what codes they use, so the learning curve would be pretty steep. I just know I don’t want anyone to chop down trees, and I know where the trees currently reside.

I had other conflicts as well, but I didn’t think about those, either, until later. So I figured out I wouldn’t be the best person making technical decisions on land use.

Perhaps Wally Covington got an opportunity to read this rather embarrassing entry, which may be what prompted the switch to having this apparently “indispensable” person instead serve on the Convention and Visitors Bureau.  Gotthardt never laid out her qualifications, or lack thereof in this arena, but we do know from her resume she has no experience in travel and tourism promotion, economic development, or business of any kind.  She’s an English As A Second Language teacher.

The Convention and Visitors Bureau is kind of a plum pick for a reject from land use planning, as they actually control money.  Each hotel room rented, each car rented, and every convention even booked results in a fee going to the CVB that is used for marketing, promotion and economic development in the county.  The million and a half dollars or so that are collected and disbursed can make a big difference in what happens in the county and has to be managed wisely.  It’s not typically the thing you entrust to people who are quite obviously incompetent.

Folks in Wally’s district might want to ask him why he apparently thought that Gotthardt was a better choice for the CVB than themselves.  If all it takes to decide how a bunch of taxpayer money is spent is an open hostility towards the rule of law, a complete lack of experience, and a string of rather embarassing commentary, there’s got to at least be someone out there in Brentsville who doesn’t believe that regaling others with stories about weight loss issues is a good idea.



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75 Comments

  1. Anonymous said on 8 Apr 2009 at 10:30 pm:
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    Maybe she can get more illegal “touristas” to come to the area.

  2. Greg Stiel said on 8 Apr 2009 at 10:31 pm:
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    Looks like business as usual. Maybe she can charter the county’s $850,000.00 fire boat out for love cruses. At least then we’d have a use for it.

  3. anon said on 9 Apr 2009 at 5:50 am:
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    That’s the problem living in an area with unnaturally low unemployment. She is completely incompetent but the only difference between her and a McDonald’s employee is an education degree.

  4. Anonymous said on 9 Apr 2009 at 7:40 am:
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    You can’t honestly be surprised by this move, Wally changes horses midstream so many times that he has to bring a string a ponies just to cross Broad Run. It’s just another example of him flip-flopping, see: land use density, Buckland, school overcrowding, etc., etc., etc.

  5. Anonymous said on 9 Apr 2009 at 7:53 am:
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    It will be interesting to see what she posts about this appointment on her blog. She’ll probably say something that will make Wally regret making this appointment. She’ll probably help lower tourism in the area.

  6. Anonymous said on 9 Apr 2009 at 8:43 am:
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    Remember - this is a person who says she can’t read a map! Sounds like a perfect fit for a tourism job!

  7. Robert L. Duecaster said on 9 Apr 2009 at 9:56 am:
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    Covington should have more sense than to associate himself with this slanderer. It’ll be entertaining to watch this play out, like a Greek tragedy.

  8. Robert L. Duecaster said on 9 Apr 2009 at 10:15 am:
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    This is going to be very interesting. Like a Greek tragedy.

  9. Just the Facts said on 9 Apr 2009 at 10:41 am:
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    Wally has started his campaign for 2011 already. He’s been hanging around with the “anti” crowd hoping to get them on board even though he originated illegal immigration as a political issue in Prince William County. Think back to early 2007 when Wally got some attention, and was interviewed on CNN before Corey ever showed up there, by demanding that the County calculate the cost of services to illegal aliens. He followed up with the meaningless gesture of sending a bill to Nancy Pelosi and Dick Cheney, which was only “symbolic” even according to Wally. Wally’s only accomplishment was making Prince William County citizens look like a bunch of ignorant rubes. He never intended to do anything meaningful about the problem but is nonetheless hoping that the “anti” crowd has forgotten.

    The only thing Wally is about is getting sewer and roads into the Rural Crescent, and changing the County’s land use policies to allow more dense development there. He represents the developer and big landowner interests. Quality of life and low taxes for the rest of us be d***ed.

    More density and residential development is insane for Prince William County. We have already about 30,000 new residential units already approved for construction, our property values are plummeting and foreclosures are skyrocketing. However, if your only interests are giving a blank check to your big landowner and developer buddies so you can all take the money and run, Wally’s strategy makes a lot of sense.

    Development has not been a front burner issue during the recession, but in a few years, say 2011 – 2012, the economy will have turned around and the developers, their attorneys and their lobbyists will again descend on the McCoart Building.

    Wally has almost $70,000 cash on hand for the next election and took another $6,000 from developers just in 2008. See the report on the Virginia Public Access Project:

    http://www.vpap.org/committees/profile/money_in_industry1/1503

    Prince William County, in particular Brentsville and Gainesville beware. Wally is coming and he hopes that people who care about sensible development and low taxes, and the “anti” crowd have short memories. He doesn’t represent any of those groups. His developer/landowner buddies are paying up their campaign contributions now and waiting to cash in when the economy rebounds, with Wally clearing a way for them in our government.

  10. Walter E. Kurtz said on 9 Apr 2009 at 11:04 am:
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    Why don’t you run against him, JTF?

  11. Anonymous said on 9 Apr 2009 at 11:33 am:
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    JTF

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Just look at the Comp Plan Map Amendments and his recent land use votes in the 29/15 corridors.

    Mom

  12. BattleCat said on 9 Apr 2009 at 3:05 pm:
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    Well,

    Typically, she can’t put a sentence together without invoking the name of Adolf Hitler, so the new travel brochures ought to be kick-butt!! I always said the 9500 Liberty St. wall should be presented prominently on our travel brochures. Surely Mr. Covington must know how unbalanced this person is.

  13. Groveton said on 9 Apr 2009 at 3:31 pm:
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    You guys sure this Wally character works in PW County? He sounds like one of our Fairfax County BoS members. You can build houses, town homes and condos forever without expaning the roads - can’t you?

    As for the Gotthardt woman - we’ll take her in Fairfax County. She wrote:

    “Second, I have no idea how they zone things or don’t zone things in this county or what codes they use, so the learning curve would be pretty steep. I just know I don’t want anyone to chop down trees, and I know where the trees currently reside.”.

    Even if she has only one thought on land use (don’t chop down trees) that puts her one thought ahead of the Fairfax County land use planning crowd.

  14. Chicken Little said on 9 Apr 2009 at 7:45 pm:
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    Groveton -

    TAKE HER, PLEASE!!

    I think that Wally called her because all she does is e-mail him daily about how screwed up PWCS is and how she needs to be heard because she is the voice for the disabled, mentally ill, poor and illegal (all while sitting in her lovely townhome in Sheffield Manor where she doesn’t have to mingle with the commoners). He was (hopefully) throwing her a bone to get her to shut her mouth for five minutes.

    Gotthardt is typical of the anti ilk - all talk, but when push comes to shove, they don’t act. Wasn’t Alana or Elena contacted by Stewart to serve on the same committee and she turned it down? That’s right - they’re too busy shoveling the ho-ho’s down their throats and pecking away at their keyboards (and husbands).

    Hopefully word will get out and Wally’s constituents will ask why someone as hateful as Mrs. Gotthardt was asked to represent his district, knowing that she has zero qualifications.

  15. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 6:18 am:
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    Maybe Gotthardt’s travel brochure for PWC will read: Come to PWC where you can see reenactments of ethnic cleansing by the Nazi’s as well as historic Civil War sites!

  16. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 6:20 am:
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    Both Gotthardt and Elena were contacted (separately by Wally and Stewart) to serve on some land use committee. Both declined for different reasons.

  17. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 6:23 am:
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    I am in Convington’s district and will e-mail him and ask him why someone who seemingly hates PWC so much for their attempts to solve the illegal immigrant problem can be promoting tourism there. I’ve found several posts by Gotthardt saying how PWC has earned a terrible reputation as a racist place and that it is known that way “all over the world” and that every one of her friends asks her how she can live there. Sounds like just the kind of thing someone promoting tourism for PWC should be saying! It will be most interesting to see what Wally has to say about that!

  18. FOIA said on 10 Apr 2009 at 7:28 am:
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    The ONLY thing Covington cares about is opening up the Rural Cres. to his development buddies. If it he had his way the Rural C. would resemble Dale City. His only interest is self interest, I think he actually despises the county but lives here because he wouold be unelectable in any other county.

  19. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 8:05 am:
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    That’s not the ONLY thing he cares about, but it is the primary thing he cares about in his current position. The other thing he cares about is using his board seat as a springboard to an appointment as a judge, thus ensuring he lives off the public dole for life.

  20. Advocator said on 10 Apr 2009 at 9:18 am:
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    Too bad ole Katherine is such a malicious slanderer and liar. Our views on development in the county are pretty much the same. We and others could have agreed to disagree on the Invasion issue and worked together on the land use issue, but she and the rest of her coven burnt that bridge by resorting to name-calling, caricatures, and ridicule when they found they couldn’t rationalize in civil language their support for illegal aliens.

  21. DPortM said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:01 am:
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    I am going to post several “posts” by Ms. Gotthardt to enlighten those of you who are unaware of her rantings:

    Posting As Pinko, 17. November 2008, 20:53

    Considering some ridiculous number of African Americans are incarcerated for drugs and never get their voting rights back (something like 4-5% of VA’s population), I can see how anyone would think there is tremendous racism in law enforcement. And we DO see racists in law enforcement acting out–I will use Jackson Miller as a prime example (and I have no problem calling him racist either). You can’t tell me that man is capable of making unbiased, fair calls. He’d be the first one to bring someone in for “driving while speaking Spanish” IMO.

    kgotthardt, 3. October 2008, 7:44
    Sorry, but Palin is an embarrassment to any professional with a vagina.

    gotthardt, 26. September 2008, 21:12
    A Stupidvisor named Stirrup
    who harkened back to Europe
    thought he was elite
    when he wore a white sheet
    but really, he’s just a big twer-up

    kgotthardt, 26. September 2008, 10:27
    –LADY, get the HELL over two trees being cut down! Don’t you know what the did to the Battlefield and not one f-ing word from you.–

    Did you ask the “Friends of the Battlefield” about this? (Warning: some of them aren’t very friendly.)

    kgotthardt, 26. September 2008, 10:29
    TBD: It’s about our tax money and our communities. The problem with the BOCS is they think “it’s all about them.” Well big clue: it’s about US, not THEM. We pay their salaries. They can take their dirty politics and “suck it.”

  22. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:01 am:
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    Oh the irony! Posted on her own blog 9/29/08:

    Here’s what it comes down to: because of Stirrup’s choice, we cannot trust YOUR judgment or any other Board member’s judgment when it comes to appointments. You have demonstrated there are no standards, no criteria, and no recourse for the rest of us who disagree with your choices.

  23. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:02 am:
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    Sorry - hit enter too soon - she directed that post towards Wally Covington.

  24. DPortM said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:03 am:
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    Here’s more:

    kgotthardt, 26. September 2008, 10:38
    Yeah, Censored! You tell em!!!

    (Next time, I’d like to see a cartoon of Maureen as Satan’s Bride and see what she does at a BOCS meeting. Hours of entertainment….)

    kgotthardt, 20. September 2008, 10:47
    I’ve read Maureen’s work. I have no problem suggesting she is racist and in love with Duecaster and Greg’s intent to “repel the invasion.” Take your “frontline” and “foot soldiers” where they belong, Maureen.

    kgotthardt, 20. September 2008, 10:52
    Loudooooon, go back and be loud in your own county. We don’t need you bringing ours down any more than it already has been by your ilk.

    Do I sound too “strong” for your liking?

    Justice isn’t always gentle.

    kgotthardt, 2. July 2008, 13:16
    Ever notice the hate bunnies and trolls never have anything new to say or anything meaningful to add to the conversation? These folks beat dead horses into pulp and then make soup out of them so they can crap out some more rot.

  25. DPortM said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:06 am:
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    And finally more….

    kgotthardt, 15. September 2008, 21:34
    Just read TWIN’S post. Maybe you should put a horse’s ass on his pillow instead.

    kgotthardt, 26 Feb 2008 at 10:31 am: I don’t know that Greg is a Nazi, but his obsession with this who thing, his general demeanor, his control-freakishness and yes…his open affilitation with the military (sorry to say and no offense to any good soldier) mark the signs of a madman. I am telling you, this guy is just plain SCARY….the kind of guy who keeps bombs in the basement or wigs out in a tower somewhere. He can say I’m a moonbat or whatever he likes, but at least I’m not a threat to society. His poor wife and child….I think about them a lot

    Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt said…

    Attacking citizens? No. I am bringing to light the corruption in our local government and its affiliations, affiliations that have been reported by other organizations: SPLC, ADL, Human Rights Commission, Civil Rights Commission, numerous faith based communities, and one of the largest Charity organizations in the world (which for some reason, I can’t think of the name but will after my coffee).

    I hold our Chief of police in high esteem. He was one of the few officials who openly predicted the negative impacts of the initial “resolution” including the costs which the BOCS ignored. He has foresight and wisdom that none of “the others” can seem to comprehend.

    This post shows Duecaster et al continue to abuse the Chief and his staff. They have problems with authority and anyone who does not do their bidding like JS and CS.

    This post also shows Duecaster has no respect for the people he is supposed to represent–inculding “retarded” people.

    I don’t care who NGL is or isn’t. Nor do I obvioulsy care who you are. You asked some questions without calling me names (those posts I delete) and I respect that. I disagree with your analysis of the situation, however. You can criticize the Police if you want, but thus far, they have remained the most objective throughout this whole things. Kudos to them.

    As far as the lady you mention, I am quite sure she can go back to the PW Police and get this rectified.

    Finally, I post as “Pinko” because GL and his CLAN decided all religious communities particpating in VOICE are communisits and socialists. Get the irony here?

    Posted by ( Posts as Pinko ) on October 29, 2008 at 7:52 am

    How about personal conclicts like a bigot and racist being appointed for Human Services long-term planning?
    Yes, I’m going to beat this issue like a boxer on a punching bag. Never forget who the CHAIR, his VICE and their CLAN put into office

  26. DPortM said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:08 am:
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    I really want someone like her appointed to represent PWC (sarcasm alert)!

  27. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:30 am:
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    Tuesday, October 14, 2008
    Hey Wally…are you GETTING IT Yet??????

    Your choice of Robert Duecaster for Human Services will come back to bite your be-hind again and again. Now Duecaster not only wants to require checking children for citizen status (which is against the law), as he trashes Chief Deane, he makes fun of retarded people. Yes, Wally, you and your buds made a great choice. Human Services with a person who mocks the disabled….

    Monday, September 29, 2008
    Wally Covington, This Isn’t About Free Speech

    Wally, Wally Wally….let’s turn the tables around shall we? Let’s put the future of YOUR family, YOUR kids into the hands of a hate monger. Feel differently about Duecaster now?

    Probably not because you know you are wealthy and powerful enough that this will never happen to YOUR family.

    Saturday, November 22, 2008
    Why does Virginia need reform?

    But because our government, in particular our local government, condones and supports hate groups rather than equality, I maintain that anyone “different” (minorities, gay people, and the disabled) are targets here and across the state if for no other reason than there are no state laws protecting them. State laws that DO provide protection are not enforced. Resident complaints are ignored.

    And my personal favorite (the last line would be a great tag line for PWC!!)

    Blogger Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt said…

    Thank you, my friend. What is bad about me is that I call racists racists and of course, they not only deny it, they try to take revenge. It’s loads of fun, but I’m not about to sugar coat it, since I live in one of the racist capitals of the country at the moment.

  28. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:35 am:
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    kgotthardt
    September 28th, 2008 at 15:55 |

    You know, it’s all very well and good to do public acts of kindness, and people generally appreciate them. Then again, there is something called hypocrisy. It’s kind of like Stewart claiming to be a “devout Catholic” and then hiring on Duecaster, the Catholic hater.

    kgotthardt
    September 28th, 2008 at 15:57 | #37
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    MH, I would never tell HUD what a bunch of wasteful, hateful politicians we have in this county and jeapordize money that should be going to needy people. Besides, with the lawsuit and complaints in Manassas, I am sure HUD is aware of the situation.

  29. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:36 am:
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    You know what? Even though I don’t live in Wally’s district, I think I’ll send him an e-mail with these attached so he sees exactly what is going on with Mrs. Gotthardt. I, personally, don’t want this woman to have anything to do with PWC. Part of the reason that we have a “bad” reputation is because of her and her biddies on anti.

  30. DPortM said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:39 am:
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    Wally Covington is ingratiating himself with the folks over on anti and with K. Gotthardt because she is a member of the League of Women Voters and a free-lance writer for the Potomac News, and he will need her support to become judge some day. This is all politics…

  31. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:42 am:
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    Yes, but have you seen what she write for the MJM? It’s community news (where people e-mail her goings on in the community and she cuts/pastes it to make a story) and fluff pieces about local grocery store openings. Hardly cutting edge.

  32. Walter E. Kurtz said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:49 am:
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    Oh, the horror.

  33. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:50 am:
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    Here’s some more gems from kgotthardt:

    kgotthardt April 28th, 2008 at 19:10 | #15 Reply | Quote GL has a wife and a toddler who is deaf. I worry about them, especially his child.

    kgotthardt April 28th, 2008 at 17:24 | #9 Reply | Quote Okay, so when are we arresting him as a threat to society? “Arm ourselves”? If he didn’t lose it before, he’s certainly lost it now.

    No one ever argue with me again when I say, “This guy is a Nazi.”

    kgotthardt April 28th, 2008 at 20:23 | #50 Reply | Quote “It is very petty to degrade someone’s family as you are doing to Greg.” Since when is it degrading to worry about other people’s children?? I worry about children who grow up in homes where parents support and tout hate groups. I worry about children who cannot defend themselves. I worry about children who are disabled. I worry about children because they are our future.

    If you can’t understand that, then you have big problems.

    And for anyone who wants to know how I support the “Nazi” theory, feel free to check out the word usage, its origin and the research. The word “racist” was first applied to Nazi theory, and since GL is into cleansing us of these “vermon,” the shoe fits him and others like him quite nicely.

    http://luxuriouschoices.blogspot.com/2008/04/racism-in-prince-william-area.html

    http://luxuriouschoices.blogspot.com/search?q=ethnic+cleansing

    Remember, I wasn’t the one greeting my pal, “Hey Nazi!” at the last meeting RIGHT WITHIN EARSHOT OF A RABBI. That would be your “buddy” GL who did that.

    Go back to your BVBL Sludgeholes and stay there where you belong.

    kgotthardt April 28th, 2008 at 20:29 | #55 Reply | Quote AW, perhaps if GL didn’t THREATEN me, I might actually believe his words were analogies. Since he has a record of harassing people, however, I think it’s safe to believe he’s quite serious.

    kgotthardt April 28th, 2008 at 20:45 | #67 Reply | Quote Anon, first, I have two emails from GL, a man I have never met. I reported these to the police. I had an officer spend more than an hour at my house so we could discuss this little issue of GL picking me out of a crowd.

    Second, GL took the time and effort to make sure I was alone at the last BOCS meeting so he could sit there with his friends and try to intimidate me before I went to speak.

    Third, Nazis are people who hold a racist ideology that includes supporting ethnic cleansing. I’ve said again and again that we don’t have gas chambers here, but we DO have a Nazi party. While GL might not be a member, he’d fit right in with his rhetoric and his plans. Remember, this is the man that the KKK APPROVES of. We’re not talking a nice guy here.

    Finally, I don’t know why you are spouting partisanship or political leanings here unless it’s that YOU are partisan. I don’t belong to parties. I don’t even BELIEVE in parties. I’m pretty moderate but the problem is, none of the extremists like moderates. Oh well. I’m not here to be liked. I’m here to talk about solutions. If you are as well, I suggest you visit the “solutions” thread and add to the constructive idea pool.

    kgotthardt April 28th, 2008 at 21:12 | #81 Reply | Quote When people call other people “vermon” and refer to them as dog food and push through policies to have them targeted and deported, then yes, I would say they are in favor of “extermination” and would do more than write a policy if they thought they could get away with it. The Nazi party began because Hitler promised desperate people the moon. The Nazis didn’t think for themselves. They followed mandates, orders and whims and people DIED because of that. It’s the Nazi attitude we are fighting here. And YES there is a living, real Nazi party still around. Guess what? They don’t necessarily kill people physically. They kill with the Nazi ideal that is still too alive and well.

    Are you a Nazi for supporting the resolution? No. But you are part of the problem because the people who WROTE the resolution are from HATE GROUPS. And the resolution is bankrupting us in more way than one.

    If you want to get this fixed, then support a new policy,one the people of PWC come up with, not some national lobbying group looking to sharpen its ax in our county.

    kgotthardt April 28th, 2008 at 21:23 | #89 Reply | Quote PWC has the KKK, and I am quite convinced there are members of the official Nazi Party. I’m not saying GL is a member, but you should understand that they ARE here.

    Racism is a more general term for hatred based on ethnicity. The Nazis were just one extreme of racism. And what we are seeing in this county IS a extreme. We’re not talking about a couple of people using a few derogatory terms. We are looking at people who WANT others to live in fear, to leave, to get harassed because they aren’t like “us.”

    I don’t mean to insult anyone, and I don’t use the term “Nazi” lightly. I am using it because it’s historically accurate but in a modern context which can never overshadow the Holocaust but can easily turn into another one if we let it.

    If we have learned nothing else from history, we should at least have learned something from the Holocaust–that if we stay silent and allow this kind of hate, destruction like the kind we envision only in hell will be the result. This isn’t drama. This is the legacy we have been left.

    kgotthardt May 30th, 2008 at 15:22 | #77 Reply | Quote “it is the EXISTENCE of the wall itself which is in question.” Agreed. It’s not the speech here that’s the problem. It’s the location of the physical structure. Get the permits, I say, and get on with making the wall a stronger statement than it is right now (i.e. prettier).

    kgotthardt July 22nd, 2008 at 15:35 | #53 Reply | Quote Mando, some of us would like to be proud of where we live, not embarassed with the stigma of being back-woods bigots (which is the name we have earned for ourselves).

    kgotthardt July 4th, 2008 at 08:44 | #27 Reply | Quote There goes Elvis, off on a racist tangent again. Animal garbage…Hispanics being represented by one sign? What about Native Americans? Are THEY “that sign” as well, Elvis? Am I, because I am a woman, a tampon commercial? Are you a viagra ad because you are a man? Come on. Think this through.

    Elvis, you used to be so much more willing to engage in meaningful conversation. Lately, you sound like “the other.” Has someone hijacked your name? You can be angry at the sign and the choice Mr. F. has made, but please save dehumanizing, generalizing ranting for BVBL if you must have it.

    I am still hoping Mr. F. will make this good. I believe he can. He has lived in the United States for a long, long time, has been a successful business person, and has raised a beautiful family. He still has time to do the right thing and bring the community together with his statement. Time will tell.

    kgotthardt July 4th, 2008 at 08:48 | #28 Reply | Quote BTW, I’d put a mural on my lawn, but I live in a townhouse in Sheffield Manor. Not only is my lawn three feet by three feet, the HOA would be at my house every day because the mural wouldn’t match the cookie-cutter decor of our development. Remember, I got cited for my bird bath one year. : )

    kgotthardt July 4th, 2008 at 13:34 | #41 Reply | Quote If GL had a similar sign, you can bet the anger and ranting would be twice as loud…..to say nothing of the kinds of trash that might collect on the property which seems to be part of the citation against the sign area.

    Mr. F. has the chance to make part of history come alive and fit right in with Old Town.

  34. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:54 am:
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    kgotthardt’s slogan for PWC: “I live in one of the racist capitals of the country at the moment.” That’s a direct quote from one of her posts. Just the person to represent tourism for the county! We need to make all the supervisor’s aware of her views about PWC, before they appoint her to this tourism post.

  35. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 10:58 am:
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    Just sent this to Wally Covington:

    Mr. Covington,

    Although I am not a resident of your district, I have a grave concern with the fact that you asked Katherine Gotthardt, who has no qualifications, to serve on a land use committee.

    Mrs. Gotthardt is someone who is very poisonous to Prince William County. She has called members of the Board of County Supervisors racists and neo-Nazi’s on public blogs. Consider the following:

    kgotthardt, 26. September 2008, 21:12
    A Stupidvisor named Stirrup
    who harkened back to Europe
    thought he was elite
    when he wore a white sheet
    but really, he’s just a big twer-up

    This was posted on antibvbl.net. She also has posted several other comments about the BOCS, including:

    kgotthardt, 26. September 2008, 10:29
    TBD: It’s about our tax money and our communities. The problem with the BOCS is they think “it’s all about them.” Well big clue: it’s about US, not THEM. We pay their salaries. They can take their dirty politics and “suck it.”

    Or this, posted on her own blog:

    Blogger Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt said…

    Thank you, my friend. What is bad about me is that I call racists racists and of course, they not only deny it, they try to take revenge. It’s loads of fun, but I’m not about to sugar coat it, since I live in one of the racist capitals of the country at the moment.

    My question is - why would you even consider asking someone who obviously does not support the BOCS to serve? She is someone who enjoys making fun of others (as evidenced in her above post) and has no respect for elected officials. Consider these:

    Tuesday, October 14, 2008
    Hey Wally…are you GETTING IT Yet??????

    Your choice of Robert Duecaster for Human Services will come back to bite your be-hind again and again. Now Duecaster not only wants to require checking children for citizen status (which is against the law), as he trashes Chief Deane, he makes fun of retarded people. Yes, Wally, you and your buds made a great choice. Human Services with a person who mocks the disabled….

    Monday, September 29, 2008
    Wally Covington, This Isn’t About Free Speech

    Wally, Wally Wally….let’s turn the tables around shall we? Let’s put the future of YOUR family, YOUR kids into the hands of a hate monger. Feel differently about Duecaster now?

    Probably not because you know you are wealthy and powerful enough that this will never happen to YOUR family.

    Again, these were posted on her public blog, under her name. Please check out her blog and click on “racism” and see what pops up. You might be surprised. Do a google search of her name and see what you are able to come up with.

    I do not think that Mrs. Gotthardt is representative of a majority of Prince William County. She slanders officials every chance she gets and is unable to hold a conversation without calling someone racist or a Nazi.

    Is this really who we want working on tourism for the county?

    If I get a response, I’ll paste it here. Maybe I’ll send this to all of the supervisors -

  36. Robert L. Duecaster said on 10 Apr 2009 at 11:13 am:
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    It’s unfortunate she referred to me as, “Duecaster, the Catholic hater,” as my father (RIP) was Catholic. But such vile villification is indicative of her psyche.

  37. AWCheney said on 10 Apr 2009 at 12:33 pm:
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    “Wasn’t Alana or Elena contacted by Stewart to serve on the same committee and she turned it down? That’s right - they’re too busy shoveling the ho-ho’s down their throats and pecking away at their keyboards (and husbands).”

    Perhaps they turned it down because they didn’t feel themselves sufficiently qualified. You castigate Gotthardt for taking the job without qualifications (and rightly so, I might add), but then you’re equally rude about Alanna and Elena when they don’t.

    By all means, disagree with them, which I often do…but maybe you could stick to opinions and actually debate those civilly. The sad thing is, Chicken Little, you’re not the only one around here doing that consistently…and not even the worst.

  38. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 12:49 pm:
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    But you can’t have a reasonable debate with them. Moon Howler AKA Dolph is ready to ban anyone who disagrees with her, calling them confrontational, argumentative, whatever. Gotthardt jumps in and labels them a racist or anti-immigrant. How can you debate people like that? You can’t.

  39. Anonymous said on 10 Apr 2009 at 12:52 pm:
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    They are just getting a taste of their own medicine. They tried to use Robert Duecaster’s posts against him when he was appointed to a county committee, so it is a little unfair if they now don’t like it when Gotthardt’s posts are used against her. It is just facts, NO opinions when her posts are here verbatim. Her posts speak for themselves. She views the county as a racist place, so not someone we should have as any kind of tourism representative.

  40. Robert L. Duecaster said on 10 Apr 2009 at 1:14 pm:
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    Let’s let their unbalanced ravings speak for themselves and just engage the issues.

    Besides, it’s time to take a break from temporal things and celebrate the blessing of everlasting life.

  41. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 1:28 pm:
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    AWC - Elena is on a conservation committee - doesn’t that make her qualified? The point I was trying to make was that these 3 talk about study circles, rallies, serving on committees, etc but when 2 supervisors reach out and extend an olive branch, knowning all of the nasty things they’ve said about them, both KG and Elena turn them down flat. Elena pretty much said it was an f you to Stewart. I hope Stewart and Covington remember the saying “Fook me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

    And as many times as you’ve been attacked by MH, KG and Shelly B, I’m surprised to see you defending them.

  42. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 1:36 pm:
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    Oops - I meant fool, not fook. That’s what I get for using my Blackberry

  43. AWCheney said on 10 Apr 2009 at 1:52 pm:
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    I’m sorry to say, I don’t disagree about Elena (except with regard to personal attacks)…I have found her to be rather unreasonable, more often than not. Alanna, however, has attempted to stay on message and has often sought common ground. The real point is, why stoop to the same level at which you accuse others of being? It IS possible to disagree with people without perpetually casting about personal insults as is too often done here. It dilutes any possible credible criticism that the attacker might offer, and totally destroys any possible reasonable debate. If your (and as I said, you are NOT the worst of the offenders…not by a long shot) purpose is to persuade, you will fall far from the mark…particularly among those who are still formulating their positions. I don’t know about you, but I can’t stand to be surrounded by “yes men,” it’s so counterproductive, and this site is becoming an echo chamber because anyone that disagrees is immediately, and unnecessarily vilified. Sad.

  44. Willie Sutton said on 10 Apr 2009 at 2:26 pm:
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    “because anyone that disagrees is immediately, and unnecessarily vilified”

    AWC, you ARE one of the worst offenders here. Anyone who disagrees with you is immediately dismissed as a newcomer to PWC whose views compared to yours have no validity because, after all, it was you who single-handedly on a cold and rainy night founded the PWC Republican Party while the other kids were out partying.

  45. AWCheney said on 10 Apr 2009 at 2:51 pm:
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    Yeah, right. I do admit to having suggested to some few that they might lack reading comprehension in the hopes that they would go back and reread the comments, as I have in the past when I misspoke and apologized for doing so…which is something that I would suggest of you, Mr. Sutton. Fair warning though…you’ve got hundreds of comments through which to wade. You are definitely an example of selective reading comprehension…much like a fellow by the name of Jimmy Young. A friend, maybe? I think he may have a few left.

  46. DPortM said on 10 Apr 2009 at 3:10 pm:
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    More KG quotes:

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 11:34 | #1
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    Make no mistake. We are going to “repel” HIS invasion.

    Duecaster is what the cartoons would portray as an evil old man.

    It’s time to shut the television off.

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:14 | #6
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    Well, Wally Covington sure knows because I sent him the whole thing with explanations…..quotes and all.

    I can blame Stirrup because HE is a bigot which is why HE supports them.

    I can blame Stewart for the same thing.

    Birds of a feather……

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:14 | #7
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    Stirrup has no sense of decency. Remember, he left his previous county so he could flee the invasion.

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:59 | #9
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    WHWN, good luck to Stirrup if he wants to live “among his own kind.” This is the DC Metro area. Sorry. No clone colonies. He’ll have to establish a commune. I hear Waco has some cheap land available.

    Some people happen to think PEOPLE and living things are “their own kind” but I guess that’s not a common belief around here.

    As for the reputation being permanent…it doesn’t have to be. This county wasn’t like this before so why should have it have to stay the way it is now?

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 13:02 | #10
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    Come to think of it, if we “repel the invasion” of the Red Dots and the resolution and discrimination, we could come out of this as national heroes.

    Smart politicians will play it that way. Of course, there seems to be a moratorium on smart politicians now days.

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 15:49 | #31
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    “Kgott, I apologize.”

    No apology necessary! I know Stirrup appointed Doo-Doo Caster because he wants to spit in everyone’s face.

    Ishi, what the hell are you talking about?

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 18:40 | #43
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    Ladies and Gents:

    1. We tell them loud and clear DOO-DOO needs to be flushed.

    2. We tell them loud and clear that appointees must meet certain criteria (as in…”Do you or have you ever belonged to a radical, racist, and/or hate group?”), pass background checks and sign ethical statements. Furthermore, I don’t think party members should qualify for committees. The purpose of a citizens’ committee is to fix problems, not push partisan agendas.

    This small town “let’s appoint our buddies” crap doesn’t cut it.

    kgotthardt
    September 12th, 2008 at 21:17 | #53
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    “Look at it this way - can you think of anyone who has a greater need than Ducaster to be locked in a room full of therapists and social workers?”

    LMAO!!!!!!!

    He’d never make it out alive…….

  47. AWCheney said on 10 Apr 2009 at 3:36 pm:
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    “It IS possible to disagree with people without perpetually casting about personal insults as is too often done here. It dilutes any possible credible criticism that the attacker might offer, and totally destroys any possible reasonable debate.”

    DPortM, I never said that others, on other blogs (particularly kgotthardt) haven’t participated in what I just quoted from my previous comment. But I also said, “The real point is, why stoop to the same level at which you accuse others of being?”

  48. DPortM said on 10 Apr 2009 at 4:15 pm:
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    AWC - I am not stooping to her level. I am merely enlightening the public on her postings (using her moniker “Posting as Pinko”). Here’s more:

    November 13th, 2008 at 12:06 | #23
    What a total A-hole! And he didn’t even answer the question? Alanna, you are a better person by far and you have proven once again this man isn’t capable of doing his damn job.

    @ 12:09 | #24
    –Does this mean that Stirrup stiffed the School Board? –

    Stirrup didn’t bother going to the last one either.

    Alanna can ask any question at any time, Mom, and she deserves an answer.. She isn’t the professional politician here. Stirrup is supposed to be. Mark the word “SUPPOSED.”

    @ 12:31 | #29
    Time to do a FOIA on Stirrup. Does he or does he not belong to HSM?

    Let’s do it ladies. He HAS to answer then. And if he lies, he’s doomed.

    @ 12:58 | #35
    First, when he takes his policy from HSM (which he did), then YES, this should fall under FOIA. Second, if he takes the campaign money, it falls under FOIA. Third, if this is part of his professional affiliations (i.e. as on a resume) then it falls under FOIA. He has his church listed. He should be as proud to list his ‘clubs.’ If he is not, there’s a reason. He is either hiding it (dishonest) ashamed of it (rightly so, in which case we are owed an apology) or doesn’t want to answer for another reason (anti-transparent).

    @ 14:36 | #46
    Okay, Mom and Chris, but since Stirrup won’t answer the question and hasn’t in the past, when WOULD Alanna have asked it? Meeting likes these are really her only opportunity to get his response on public record unless she went out and did a FOIA which should NOT be necessary.

    It’s one thing to call names and bait people on a blog. It’s another all together to do it in public when you are a public official.. Alanna could easily call “slander” on this one like the BVBL crowd does when people label them “racist.” Except Alanna would have better reason to do so because this isn’t coming from some Joe Schmoe. It’s coming from an elected leader!

    I think, Alanna, you SHOULD do a FOIA and THEN write your letters to the editor.

    @ 15:19 | #58
    I admit I need to know when to shut up. That skill has always seemed to elude me somehow….

    @ 18:28 | #81
    And you know damn well Stewart, Stirrup, GL, Duecaster and CLAN would be threatening lawsuit. The paper probably wouldn’t want to take that chance. This is where citizen reporters really do have the upper hand.

    @ 18:30 | #82
    Pat, an “illegal alien apologist” is apparently someone who apologizes for illegal aliens’ behavior implying that the “apologist” agrees with illegal immigration. The word has taken on other connotations such as “traitor.”

    @ 18:44 | #84
    It’s not a nice name, but you aren’t a member of the BOCS. Turn the tables: I wonder how Stirrup would take it if he asked Gov. Kaine a question and Kaine didn’t answer anything except to call Stirrup KLAN member.

    @ 20:05 | #101
    Hello here is the problem: some people ARE anti-immigrant when they claim they are anti-illegal-immigration. We know this when they use things like crowded homes as an excuse to hunt “illegals.” Crowded homes have nothing to do with immigration policy and equating them is disingenuous at best. People who do this—and they are alive and well in HSM, at BVBL, in JS/GL/RD—hide their racism (yes I used the word) by confusing the issues of culture clashes with immigration policy. Stirrup does this ALL THE TIME when he uses his “invasion” terminology, leaving his home county because he couldn’t stand all the immigrants moving in. “Rule of law” is nothing but an excuse for him to exercise his bigotry that he demonstrates time and time again.

    Fortunately, not everyone is like this, but there are enough of “them” to make PWC look like a bunch of raving racists.

    @ 20:40 | #109
    –have I ever called someone anti-immigrant simply for being for tough illegal immigration policy–

    Well, I know I haven’t, and I know people here haven’t EXCEPT in the case where culture was being used as an excuse to get “tough” at a local level where it could only serve to tear the community and budget apart.

    So we get back to that issue again of being disingenuous–some people really ARE anti-immigrant. Those are the people who belong to hate groups. And if you support a hate group, then you just might get broad-brushed.. This goes back to the importance of affiliations: choose wisely with whom you affiliate because THAT will follow you even if nothing else does. Birds of a feather, after all….

    @ 21:02 | #113
    We all know who the hate bunnies are. They are easy to identify because they usually don’t make much sense.

    And most of the people like AW, RD, SA and Rick who also post on BVBL but aren’t necessarily supporting the hate agenda are open about where they post . I don’t think any of them has ever been called “anti-immigrant” here, but I could be wrong. I’m not saying there aren’t tiffs. There sure are! But there is a difference between the people like Stirrup and people like those I just mentioned. You can be against illegal immigration without being racist or anti-immigrant. Unfortunately, most of the HSM crowd isn’t capable of that and those that ARE shouldn’t be affiliating IMHO.

    November 14th, 2008 at 06:58 | #140
    Saying people act like Nazis or are Neo-Nazis isn’t a crime. It’s about as descriptive as “illegal alien apologist” which is ‘pretty much inferring some of us don’t follow the law’ because we want immigration reform. Stirrup is an elected leader for God’s sake. He was holding a public meeting during which he was asked a legitimate question he refused to address.

    I will address any and all questions and I am not even a public official..

    Personally, I’d rather be an apologist than a Neo-Nazi any day. These people with the help of Duecaster, GL and his hate gang act like Nazis in that their agenda is to promote ethnic cleansing of anyone who doesn’t speak their language or look white. They don’t promote fair immigration reform–they persecute. For God’s sake, they call themselves “foot soldiers” and show up at 7/11’s wearing army fatigues! I don’t have any compunction about telling them what they act like. Their HSM is no better than the KKK IMHO. They are about one step away from committing hate crimes if they haven’t already slipped under the wire yet without us knowing about it.

    Take it somewhere else, GL and Robert Duecaster. Most of us don’t need your insanity.

    @ 07:02 | #142
    If our leaders weren’t so incompetent, we wouldn’t need to do FOIA requests. Imagine how much money we could save if our “leaders” would answer questions directly and honestly!

    @ 07:09 | #143
    It should be fairly easy to see who donates to Stirrup’s campaign unless he is hiding that as well. That doesn’t mean Stirrup is an HSM member. Still, if he is, why is he hiding it?? He ought to be proud of it, shouldn’t he? No matter. He shows up and sucks up to them in public anyway.

    @ 07:39 | #145
    For the record, there are a few posters here and elsewhere that simply hate my guts and will do anything they can to express it. That’s fine if they want to waste their time. I don’t hate anyone, even the people I think are neo-Nazis. THOSE people I just like to avoid because IMHO they are dangerous.

    @ 07:42 | #146
    –AWC, when are you going to stop apologising for idiot opportunists like John Stirrup?–

    Should we call these people “Neo-Nazi Apologists”? Hee hee. Just pushing some buttons.

    Still, I don’t understand why people feel the need to defend Stirrup, Stewart, GL/RD and the CLAN. If they are doing the right thing, why should they NEED defending? Makes you wonder what relationship these “defenders” have with the racist club.

  49. Chicken Little said on 10 Apr 2009 at 8:38 pm:
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    The hits just keep on coming

    kgotthardt
    March 30th, 2008 at 13:06 | #15
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    I don’t think the sign SHOULD be removed until the resolution is recinded. I don’t think writing to Mr. F. to express concerns about the message is censoring, though. He seems open to reasonable conversation, and if you mention returning the previous message, he will probably understand and be more supportive. Probably he and others didn’t know they would offend minority communities.

    I would NOT involve the BOCS. I don’t trust them to make the right decisions. Not sure I trust

    kgotthardt
    March 31st, 2008 at 07:22 | #36
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    Look here’s a plan. First, make the sign prettier. Give it some kind of visual theme so it really draws attention to itself in a good way. We have so many talented artists in this community, I am sure it’s possible to make this happen. Then we don’t have an eyesore. We will have a real, eye-catching ATTRACTION with a history!

    Next, get the words to reflect the real issues here—the issue that “no human being is illegal,” that we all deserve the chance to live healthy, prosperous lives with our families, and that working out differences and problems IS possible.

    Finally, get some community action going between the African American and Hispanic communities. This is long overdue. We need to see what we all have in common…and that’s the struggle to be able to live with dignity!! (Sorry about the editorial “we” but it’s the pronoun that most fitst here.)

    SA, No one is looking to take over the world here, except possibly GL. You seem to have a LOT of personal anxiety over this. Perhaps you could share why.

    kgotthardt
    March 30th, 2008 at 15:07 | #72
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    Wally has been a big disappointment except for the one time he made the developers clean up a dangerous hole in front of our house.

    kgotthardt
    March 27th, 2008 at 18:24 | #19
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    I can’t bear to read anything Stewart says. Have I mentioned he turns my stomach with his lies?

    kgotthardt
    March 27th, 2008 at 18:34 | #8
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    PR, wasn’t trying to dismiss you. I guess I just feel like this county is bas-ackwards in dealing with change. Other parts of the country are accustomed to change and roll with it.

    I know…”Remember….you are in Virginia!” as I keep getting told.

    kgotthardt
    March 25th, 2008 at 21:33 | #7
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    What the hell is with Covington? Isn’t his mother on the School Board? Do I have to add him to my “people I’m wishing off the BOCS” list? Did he support the “resolution”? Why am I stuck with him as MY supervisor?

    kgotthardt
    June 26th, 2008 at 11:06 | #25
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    Slowpoke, remind me to let you die a slow, miserable death the next time you violate civil law.

  50. AWCheney said on 10 Apr 2009 at 8:53 pm:
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    I know what you’re saying DPortM, which is why I said what I did. You ARE being civil, just pointing out that kgotthardt isn’t. I don’t disagree.

  51. AWCheney said on 10 Apr 2009 at 8:57 pm:
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    [That was a premature submit]

    Far too many others here, however, are just as bad as kgotthardt…and often much worse.

  52. DPortM said on 11 Apr 2009 at 5:42 am:
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    Thanks AWC!

    Here’s more from kgotthardt:

    Wednesday, March 19, 2008
    PWC, Ethnic Cleansing, Racism, and Violations

    Ethnic cleansing includes the following descriptions:
    The systematic elimination of an ethnic group or groups from a region or society, as by deportation, forced emigration, or genocide. (www.dictionary.com)
    Why is PWC’s policy being called ethnic cleansing?
    1. It is forcing groups of people to emigrate.
    2.. It forces more than one ethnic group to emigrate, but these are not “white” groups (using “white” as a general term).
    3. It systematically targets people to deport.

    Why are people calling the BOCS and HSM racist?
    1. Because their issues are cultural (i.e. crowded homes, day labor, language barriers).
    2. Because HSM uses hate group rhetoric.
    3. Because the BOCS uses policy written by a group related to other hate groups and justifies it through legal means. (So did Hitler, if you remember. So did the segregationists if you recall.)
    4. Because some BOCS members such as John Stirrup have used the same language as hate groups.
    5. Because Corey Stewart and company used our tax money and MORE of our tax money than we have to support a program that targets minorities and their education. He then gloats that these people are leaving or dropping out when he doesn’t even KNOW what is going on.
    6. Because the BOCS targets elderly and the disabled ONLY of certain racial groups by removing necessary health related services that impact the community as a whole.
    7. Because the BOCS is made up of the ethnic majority–Caucasians. Minorities have no representation on the BOCS..
    8. Because the BOCS has institutionalized racism and has encouraged it by supporting vocal bigots as opposed to thousands of people who came out to protest their actions.
    9. Because students who have gone through public schools whose parents aren’t legal immigrants are forced to pay higher tuition basically pricing them out of college or forcing them into lifelong debt.
    These are not scare tactics.
    These are supporting facts. This is reality, and if others refuse to see it, they are no better than the Nazis.
    I doubt anyone APPROVES of illegal immigration or criminal behavior. I know I do not. But immigration is a FEDERAL problem, not one that we can trust a bigoted group of petty local politicians to solve when they haven’t even solved problems closer to ALL of our homes.
    The BOCS is WAY out of line, has overstepped its bounds, and has used a discriminatory policy for their political advantage as opposed to helping our communities and FIXING problems at the local level. To boot, they have raised our taxes to forward their personal agendas.
    This is racism. This is ethnic cleansing by definition. The BOCS, in particular John Stirrup and Corey Stewart, should be held accountable for their actions and REMOVED from office. They have demonstrated their inability to treat all residents fairly and use our money wisely.

    Posted by Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt at 7:43 AM

  53. BattleCat said on 11 Apr 2009 at 11:13 am:
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    These folks beat dead horses into pulp and then make soup out of them so they can crap out some more rot. — Katherine Gotthardt

    More poetry for our tourism brochures!!

  54. AWCheney said on 11 Apr 2009 at 11:54 am:
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    You know, I really think that you all should put these quotes (with thread, date, time on each) together in some emails for Wally’s reading pleasure. They really do demonstrate a contempt of Prince William County, particularly our Board of Supervisors, that is really inappropriate for someone who is a member of a commission directed to promote the County to attract business and tourism. I’d say that she just does not have the PR presence for the job.

  55. DPortM said on 11 Apr 2009 at 12:59 pm:
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    The BOCS are voting on her nomination this Tuesday at the 2:00 pm meeting.

    If you would like to provide your opinion on her nomination, feel free to e-mail all of the Supervisors at bocs@pwcgov.org…

  56. Chicken Little said on 11 Apr 2009 at 3:13 pm:
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    AWC -

    I put some in a e-mail to him, but may follow up with adding these additional posts to an e-mail. I e-mailed all of the supervisors but can’t make the meeting on Tuesday. My husband offered to go for me and voice his opinion, but I think that if enough concerned citizens e-mail, she won’t get the vote.

    So far, the only response I’ve received is from Marty Nohe, who said that he would look into it. I’m sure the rest are on vacation or with their family, since it is technically still Spring Break for PWCS and a holiday weekend.

  57. KMG said on 11 Apr 2009 at 3:43 pm:
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    DPortM said on 11 Apr 2009 at 12:59 pm: Flag comment

    The BOCS are voting on her nomination this Tuesday at the 2:00 pm meeting.

    If you would like to provide your opinion on her nomination, feel free to e-mail all of the Supervisors at bocs@pwcgov.org…

    Or, go to the meeting and tell them how you feel at citizen’s time right at the beginning of the meeting!

  58. Chicken Little said on 11 Apr 2009 at 4:55 pm:
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    kgotthardt
    September 20th, 2008 at 10:40 | #81
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    –Never mind the bald-faced sacrilege of religious symbols and terminology that is depicted.–

    Well, y’all would have been more offended if the artist used white sheets.

    PWC did this to itself. And if any of you have ever seen political cartoons, then you would know in what vein to take this. Alas, I guess you don’t read the newspapers…because you see neither cartoons nor stories about people, real people, who have had to live the nightmare our beloved chair and VICE and his CLAN who have ruined us. You have no one to blame but yourselves.
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    September 20th, 2008 at 10:41 | #82
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    The Minutemen aren’t just disreputable. They are called “vigilantes.” Oh yeah, that’s just what our state needs.

    kgotthardt
    September 20th, 2008 at 10:44 | #83
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    Fairfax won a national award for the best managed county in the NATION. Sure, it has its problems, especially because there are larger cities there. But since PWC has the largest forecosure rate in the state, we have to look twice and three and four times.

    Went to the Fimian/Connolly debate Thursday. Fimian is a business man, just like our beloved VICE is supposed to be. Fimian says we should always be prepared for the worst, and this takes planning. How much planning do we see here? Thanks, Corey et al. Maybe you should speak with your party members to see where you went WRONG and how you can FIX it. But your ego is much too big for that, eh?

  59. Chicken Little said on 11 Apr 2009 at 7:09 pm:
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    Elena is now boo-hooing about the treatment that KG is getting. Sorry - there is no way this woman should be in any position in PWC.

  60. anon said on 12 Apr 2009 at 8:18 am:
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    Elena’s double standard: It is OK to do this to Duecaster who is my enemy but not OK to do to this to my friend.

    And by the way Elena - someone who says PWC is the capital of racism isn’t someone who should be promoting PWC as a tourist destination. It IS relevant. if you fail to see the relevance then you are stupid.

  61. AWCheney said on 12 Apr 2009 at 1:34 pm:
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    Actually, anon, Elena is just pointing out the hypocrisy of it…and she’s right. I never saw anything wrong with researching someone’s comments on a blog…it’s public information for all to see. If the comments are provably that individual’s, they are fair game. I post under my own name because I believe in accountability. Greg and others here severly castigated and villified people who researched Mr. Duecaster’s (and Mr. Duecaster has made it rather easy to connect himself to “Advocator”) comments when he was up for an appointment; now those on this blog are researching Mrs. Gotthardt’s comments…fair’s fair. Don’t add to the hypocrisy.

  62. Greg L said on 12 Apr 2009 at 2:31 pm:
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    Actually, AWC, a number of the comments attributed to Mr. Duecaster by the hysterical housewives simply weren’t his. They made the assumption that any comments made on any website under the name “Advocator” were his, when even a number of the comments on this site were from multiple individuals. Instead of making any attempt to understand what the facts were, they took the lazy route.

    Also of note, Mr. Duecaster’s appointment was to a limited term (about a month) commission unrelated to any issues connected with illegal immigration which had no power whatsoever over taxpayer funds, and did nothing but write a report. This appointment is for a year term on a bureau that controls taxpayer funds, is related directly to many of the things Ms. Gotthardt wrote of, and requires a much higher level of experience and qualifications than writing a planning document about the provision of public services that in all likelihood will be ignored when the actual policies are defined.

    Appointing someone who regularly trashes the county to the Convention and Visitors Bureau claiming that a significant portion of the county’s population are racist bigots with white supremacist tendencies is akin to appointing the leader of Mexicans Without Borders to the jail board. It is irresponsible beyond the pale, a horrible reflection on the Brentsville district, and a stunning lapse of judgment from Wally Covington.

  63. AWCheney said on 12 Apr 2009 at 3:18 pm:
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    “Appointing someone who regularly trashes the county to the Convention and Visitors Bureau claiming that a significant portion of the county’s population are racist bigots with white supremacist tendencies is akin to appointing the leader of Mexicans Without Borders to the jail board.”

    I don’t disagree, Greg, and said so in my comments, as I don’t disagree that it is appropriate to research an individual’s comments on a blog…and said so in my comments. The comment you are referencing stands on its own merits…it is hypocritical to object to someone doing something that you’ve done yourself, plain and simple.

  64. Emma said on 12 Apr 2009 at 9:53 pm:
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    AWC, you are absolutely correct. However, in Ms. Gotthardt’s case, she would be appointed to a position where she is marketing PWC as a desirable place. It has suited her purposes to continually trash PWC and its leadership as racist and morally bankrupt, and attribute all of the community’s economic woes solely to that “racism.” How can she now turn tail and convince people that, oh, nver mind all that, PWC is a GREAT place, my bad”? I didn’t see the same level of irony in Mr. Duecaster’s appointment.

  65. AWCheney said on 12 Apr 2009 at 10:35 pm:
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    The issue has nothing to do with the degree of hypocrisy…there’s actually no such thing.

  66. Anonymous said on 13 Apr 2009 at 6:06 am:
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    Gotthardt can easily change her story - she does that all the time. When confronted with facts we’ve seen how she changes her story. This is not to say that it would be a good thing for her to be appointed to the Convention and Visitors Bureau. For one thing, Gotthardt is not one who deals in facts.

  67. DPortM said on 13 Apr 2009 at 7:40 am:
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    She is still posting her “racist” viewpoint:

    http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/12/debate-on-illegal-immigrants-continues/#comments

    Posting As Pinko
    April 12th, 2009 at 15:45 | #17
    “There is much good in Prince William County. There is much to crow about. However, the Immigration Resolution isn’t one of those things. It caused dissention amongst residents and brought an undesirable focus on our county.” AMEN!

    For what it’s worth, here were my comments on WAPO:

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    Here’s the problem: 287g probably works, but the original version of the resolution put us on the map as a bunch of racist, money-wasting fools. When that happened, many residents decided it was time to try to offset the negative results the resolution had.

    The policy currently in place isn’t the one that originally passed. The original resolution exacerbated an already declining housing market as well as existing racism.

    The intent always should have been to treat people fairly but get criminals off the street. By checking citizen status of every person arrested, and by refusing to target specific ethnic groups, our police can prevent racial profiling and work within the perimeters of the current federal system. Trying to handle a federal issue on a local level is socio-economic suicide..

    I would like to see the negative ramifications of this resolution die. Unfortunately, until the federal government does something about immigration problems, and until local governments encourage federal change through positive action, PWC and other areas will continue to be affected, leaving yet one more excuse for racism and discrimination.

    The damage has already been done, and dismantling the infrastructures that allowed this to happen continues to be an uphill battle.

    But we need to let people know there is far more to PWC than the immigration debate, and we need to get that message out loud and clear.

  68. manassascityresident said on 13 Apr 2009 at 9:54 am:
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    Click on the link below and give Obama a grade.

    I bet MSNBC is shocked that so far, he’s ranking a strong “F”……
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29493093/

  69. Anonymous said on 13 Apr 2009 at 11:17 am:
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    More gems from kgotthardt:

    kgotthardt said on 3 Mar 2008 at 7:03 pm:
    As to the KKK and skinheads, yes they have aligned themselves with groups related to HSM. GL and Co. will deny it–but what he said after was even more important: he didn’t NEED the KKK to accomplish what he wanted. In other words, he thinks he is the King and he KNOWS he has enough backing to do whatever he wants. Why? Because groups like his have FAIR. They have Corey Stewart and John Stirrup in their pockets. They have people who support organized and legalized harassment and discrimination.

    kgotthardt said on 5 Mar 2008 at 8:19 am: I received a note from GL himself this morning. Apparently, he doesn’t appreciate my reference to him as a “neo-Nazi.” He claims I said he was a member of the KKK and the Nazi party, which I did not. I said HSM had support from members like these, which he does (even if he didn’t WANT that support). The KKK doesn’t support just ANYONE. Obviously, the mission of HSM matches theirs.

    I said there was no evidence he was a neo-Nazi.

    However, he ACTS like a Nazi.

    It’s the same thing as calling someone xenophobic.

    I forwarded the email to some friends and have blocked GL from my email. I thought this was the best thing to do, since he blocked me from his site. And he has threatended to put me on some “daily whackjob” site. He wants to call me a whack job. He better watch his step. He’s already made fun of disabilities, religious choices, and gender identification on his site. Some of those, I KNOW are directed at me.

    The proof is in the videos. The proof is in his words. The proof is in his “policy.” I don’t NEED any proof to support MY behavior because I know how I act and how I am and so do MANY others.

    From here on out, I will not address GL and his hateful, threatening, manipulative mannerisms.

  70. Chicken Little said on 13 Apr 2009 at 11:21 am:
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    Ah, darn it DPortM, you beat me to it.

    I so wish I could be there tomorrow. I still plan on sending a follow up e-mail to the board. I will also include how she lied on the resume that she sent to the board. She has not lived in PWC for 10 years. She lived in Fairfax for 2 years. If she lies on a simple resume form, what else will she lie about?

    On the agenda, it states that her term would run until 6/30/2012 - no way in hell do I want her on any committee for that long.

  71. Anonymous said on 13 Apr 2009 at 7:58 pm:
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    Here is one of my favorite Gotthardt-isms:

    I know all about this. I live in Prince William County, VA, the current capital of local government sponsored, institutionalized racism.

    You can get the full text from:

    http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/diversity/2008/001959.html

  72. DPortM said on 14 Apr 2009 at 5:13 am:
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    Thank you, Anonymous. I just forwarded this to the Board of County Supervisors for their reading pleasure.

  73. Anonymous said on 14 Apr 2009 at 6:03 am:
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    kgotthardt’s new slogan for tourism in PWC: “Come to PWC to see racism in action and learn how it became the capital of local government sponsored, institutionalized racism. We’ll throw in a free racial profiling while you are here!”

  74. FED UP said on 14 Apr 2009 at 7:49 am:
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    What in the heck was Wally thinking…? Apparently, he wasn’t!
    To want to appoint that wack-job Goatturd to ANYTHING is just plain STUPID!
    She needs a check-up from the neck up!!!!!!!!!!!!! And so does Wally!

  75. Anonymous said on 14 Apr 2009 at 8:12 am:
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    I don’t think Wally was aware of all the negative statements Gotthardt made about PWC and the BOCS. Hopefully by now he has been made aware and maybe if we are lucky will rethink this nomination.

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