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By Greg L | 13 April 2009 | RPV | 34 Comments

As the inside story continues to leak out about the removal of Jeff Frederick as RPV Chairman, it looks like a grass-roots revolt may be brewing that will come to a head at the upcoming RPV Convention.  Howie Lind’s recent email to Republican activists certainly adds fuel to that fire, but so far any actual organization of a revolt seems to be waiting until after the May 2nd State Central meeting when they will anoint a new Chairman.  Will the convention ratify their selection, or will the grass-roots smack down this coup?

What Happened to Jeff Frederick?

As a member of the State Central Committee that removed Jeff Frederick as Chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia (RPV) on April 4th, I have first hand knowledge of this public lynching. This whole affair begs the questions: how did we get to this point, and why did this unprecedented action occur?

To answer these questions, we must go back to the day Jeff Frederick was elected as the Virginia GOP State Party Chairman at the state convention in May 2008. Jeff ran an aggressive state-wide campaign during the early spring of 2008 leading up to the convention. The result was that he soundly defeated John Hager, the former Lieutenant Governor and the current state party Chairman. Hager’s supporters (also known as the “party elite”, or just the “establishment”) vowed that day to go after Frederick, but in what way and to what end, they didn’t exactly know.

Over the course of last summer and fall, it became apparent to Jeff’s opponents that they must take him out, somehow. They quickly realized that Jeff wasn’t going to “play ball” the way previous Chairmen had, nor was he going to kow-tow to the Virginia GOP elected leaders in both Richmond and Washington. This is what really set them off. To them, the job of the state party Chairman is essentially to serve at the beck and call of these elected leaders to do whatever they wanted done to protect their incumbency. Jeff’s governing philosophy, indeed his whole campaign message and the reason why he ran for Chairman in the first place, was exactly not that at all. Jeff ran on empowering grassroots Republicans across Virginia to take charge of their party, while expressing tried and true conservative values that candidates could run on at the local, state, and federal levels.

That was the rub. Jeff espoused empowering the grassroots, while the “elite establishment” wants the Chairman to serve them. Thus the battle began in earnest last fall, which unfortunately occurred right during the Presidential and congressional campaigns. The timing was bad because both Jeff and his opponents became embroiled in this fight when our total energies and resources should have been devoted to keeping Virginia “red” for McCain, as well as winning the other congressional races.

The September 2008 State Central Committee meeting was devoted entirely to squabbling over rules for the 2009 state convention, pushed by Jeff’s detractors, while ignoring the general election that was only 6 weeks away. The December State Central meeting was a weak attempt to unseat Jeff, but it failed miserably. At that point, Jeff’s opponents doubled-down and got serious about removing him as Chairman. The state party rules say that in order to remove a sitting Chairman, they either would need a 2/3 vote by the delegates at a state convention, or ¾ of the members of the State Central Committee. Further, the party plan states that the Chairman will be presented with “charges” and be given at least 30 days before the “removal meeting” is held. And that they did.

Jeff’s opponents busily worked under the radar for three months earlier this year to come up with 10 charges (all completely bogus), and they attained signatures from 75% of the State Central Committee membership calling for his removal. They presented these charges to Jeff on March 4th, and called for the meeting to be held on April 4th, giving Jeff the required 30 days.

As a side note, I was repeatedly asked who spearheaded this huge effort to remove Jeff. That’s easy, it was Mike Thomas (RPV First Vice Chairman), Rick Neel (RPV Treasurer), Mike Wade (3rd Congressional District Chairman), and Linwood Cobb (7th Congressional District Chairman).

Regarding the April 4th meeting, what a total sham. Or more to the point, what a room full of sheep, who did exactly what their GOP elected officials told them to do – vote to remove Jeff. The actual “trial” or the one hour presentations from both sides was a joke. The opponents presented neither facts nor truth; rather it was all conjecture, emotion, and hyperbole. They didn’t prove one thing to substantiate any one of the 10 charges against Jeff. Conversely, Jeff’s team tore to shreds each and every charge against him. If this had been an actual trial with an unbiased jury of his peers, the result would have been a unanimous acquittal for Jeff. Such was not the case. The opponent’s case can summed up by one single statement: “you need to vote for Jeff’s removal because the Virginia’s elected Republicans told you to.” Make sense? Yeah, if you’re a member of the politburo in the former Soviet Union. What a crock.

So, now we, the Republican Party of Virginia, are faced with a great dilemma. What happens to the thousands of Jeff’s supporters from last year’s state convention who most likely will be attending this year’s state convention? Whatever the answer, it doesn’t bode well for those GOP leaders who will take the stage at the convention who also were instrumental in removing Jeff Frederick as Chairman. Worse for them, what happens if Jeff decides to run again for Chairman at the convention, which he has every right to do? The answer to these questions are all bad. Fratricide, circular firing squads, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. All these phrases apply during this silly season.

Howie Lind

Republican State Central Committee Member
from the 10th Congressional District

With an organization as troubled as this, it’s going to take a major overhaul before RPV regains any relevance to elections in Virginia.



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34 Comments

  1. Truth to Power said on 13 Apr 2009 at 11:07 am:
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    Howie wrote an excellent summary. The party elite will certainly have a hissy-fit at the convention. It will be fun to watch!

  2. Mark said on 13 Apr 2009 at 12:15 pm:
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    In a separate note, look who’s looking to influence Virginia gun policy. None other than the Mayor of New York, mayor Bloomberg. Wonder why hizzoner is getting involved in other states? Doesn’t he have enough to do in New York?

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/bloomberg-finances-gun-control-ad-in-virginia-race/

  3. NLH said on 13 Apr 2009 at 12:47 pm:
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    Greg, thank you for posting this. And Howie, thank you for speaking out. I’m looking forward to the May convention!

  4. James Young said on 13 Apr 2009 at 1:08 pm:
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    You can certainly debate the merits and demerits of Jeff’s actions as RPV Chairman. But reading those charges was like reading a Kafka story!

    In the end, on something like this, one has to come down on the side of the majoritarian processes of the State Party Plan, and mere ineptitude — if ineptitude it was — should be insufficient to overturn the results of a duly called and constituted Convention.

  5. Loudoun Insider said on 13 Apr 2009 at 5:06 pm:
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    These sore losers need to get over it. A full 75% of State Central, including many fine conservatives, voted to boot Frederick. It’s time to stop whining about this and get to work electing Bob McDonnell Governor.

  6. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 13 Apr 2009 at 6:43 pm:
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9fPCu8_Tg&feature=related
    Michael Savage schools a pro-amnesty caller.

  7. Spank That Donkey said on 13 Apr 2009 at 6:48 pm:
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    Here’s Loudoun Insider’s plan for battle to elect McDonnell.

    First we shoot one of our generals, and watch his troops walk away….

    (This is where I get sarcastic)

    Hey Mr. Brilliance… McDonnell only won statewide in 2005 with 323 votes out of 2,000,000 cast…. 324 GOP voters walking away is problematic…

    324 actual campaign volunteers that walk away is catastrophic!

    Enjoy your pyrrhic Victory, and thanks for helping me make up my mind to support Cuchinelli.

  8. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 13 Apr 2009 at 6:49 pm:
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6GwIqKLJSg&feature=related
    Another great Michael Savage video. He discusses assimilation.

  9. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 13 Apr 2009 at 7:04 pm:
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlMWj0Lh9o&feature=related
    GREAT video…true Americans.

  10. Groveton said on 13 Apr 2009 at 8:09 pm:
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    Who is Howie Lind and why isn’t he running for governor?

    “Jeff espoused empowering the grassroots, while the “elite establishment” wants the Chairman to serve them.”.

    I would almost give a full “Bingo Baby!” to Mr. Lind for this observation. Almost. However, the “elite establishment” wants everybody to serve them - not just the RPV Chairman.

    Best of luck to everybody who is fighting against the entrenched cabals who call themselves “descendants of Pocohontas” and try to run the lives of all Virginians from behind-the-scenes. It’s time to cut the strings and kill the puppeteers (metaphorically speaking, of course).

    I don’t care if it’s Jeff Frederick, Frederick the Great or the Great Pumpkin - if they are fighting against the entrenched cabals who run Virginia - they have my support.

  11. Loudoun Insider said on 13 Apr 2009 at 10:22 pm:
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    Are you really trying to compare Frederick to a general? I would expect more coming from a real ex-military man.

  12. Cargosquid said on 13 Apr 2009 at 10:39 pm:
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    I’m looking forward to the convention. Sure am glad that I became a delegate…..

  13. James Young said on 13 Apr 2009 at 11:06 pm:
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    Just remember, STD, “Loudmouthed Inciter” is just like (and perhaps was one of) those people babbling on about how the GOP couldn’t win without someone from NoVA on the ticket … as long as that person was a self-styled “moderate.”

    Now that the only person from NoVA running is an unabashed Conservative, you don’t hear that song anymore. Why? Because it was a LIE!

    As for “sore losers [who] need to get over it,” I really wish I had the time (and “Loudmouthed Inciter” was worth the effort) to go back and pick over his “sore loser” posts in the interim between Jeff’s election and his removal.

    You see, that’s the problem with weasels like “Loudmouthed Inciter”: even when you show them the respect of treating their charges seriously and rebutting them, you’re still belittled.

    Why anyone pays any attention to him is a mystery to me. That Vince gives him a platform to spew his pseudonymous and venomous rants against Republicans and Conservatives raises questions as to why Vince is treated as seriously as he is.

  14. Gurduloo said on 14 Apr 2009 at 8:09 am:
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    I’m confused. Who is “Loudmouthed Inciter”? I don’t see anyone with that name.

  15. Loudoun Insider said on 14 Apr 2009 at 8:41 am:
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    That’s Jimmy Jam’s version of my online handle, Gurduloo. Jimmy couldn’t get elected dog catcher. He’s as relevant to winning elections as Lyndon LaRouche.

  16. Gurduloo said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:37 am:
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    Odd that he would accuse you of belittling people when he’s the one calling you names…

  17. Loudoun Insider said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:48 am:
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    James Young is typical of old school idealogues in bemoaning the anonymity of the blogosphere. Instead of going with the flow (which will not be reversed and is here to stay) and adapting, he’ll continue to whine about how unfair and unprincipled he thinks it is while people like him lose numbers and followers by the day. And we wonder why the GOP is in such a tailspin.

  18. James Young said on 14 Apr 2009 at 10:07 am:
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    Well, a little history, “Gurduloo”: “Loudmouthed Inciter” has frequently addressed me by a belittling diminutive of my name. “He or she started it” might be a rather juvenile response, but I “go with the flow” of the blogosphere enough to respond in kind to his or her kids-in-the-sandbox behavior, particularly since so much of what he or she says belongs in the litter box, or sand box, of whatever.

    “Loudoun Inciter” chooses to use a pseudonym, “Gurduloo.” However, I have it on some authority that, while he or she is from Loudoun, he or she is far from an “Insider.” Moreover, it is he or she who chooses to call himself or herself a name, a false and self-serving one, at that. I therefore choose to address him or her with a more accurate and descriptive pseudonym. Were he or she to attach his or her real name to his or her attacks, I would happily use that identifier.

    And BTW, “Loudmouthed Inciter,” it’s “ide-o-logue,” not “idealogue.” If you’re going to call me names, at least spell them correctly.

  19. Loudoun Insider said on 14 Apr 2009 at 10:18 am:
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    I really do like Jimmy Jam as your new nickname. Your good authority is an idiot. Vincent, TC himself, made up that screen name for me when I first started blogging, and it stuck. I speak my mind in person plenty, as anyone who knows me knows. I’m obviously more inside what’s really happening than you are, and have broken many more items of significance than you ever have. I would venture to say I have exponentially larger numbers of readers and commenters than you do.

  20. Mom said on 14 Apr 2009 at 10:50 am:
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    There you go again Loudmouth, patting yourself on the back again, must be expensive to keep your ego that inflated. I harbor the same suspicions with regard to you and your experience that I did with regard to TC before he came out of the closet. If Mr. Young’s assertion that you are far from an “insider” is correct, then it would appear that I was spot on again.

    With regard to your “exponentially larger numbers of readers and commenters” I would suggest that, regardless what I think of him, it is almost exclusively a function of TC’s efforts and you are doing nothing more than riding his coat tails while driving the bus into a ditch.

    While the “establishment” in Richmond bears its share of the blame for the GOP tailspin, loudmouths such as yourself, all talk and no action or options, are no less culpable.

  21. AWCheney said on 14 Apr 2009 at 11:54 am:
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    Gurduloo, don’t let Jimmy confuse you…I’m the one who started calling him Jimmy because he is so childish, as you can see from his rants. Insofar as name-calling is concerned, Jimmy has been doing that for a VERY long time, and far worse than any you’ve seen here. You should see the “bitch” thread from a while ago over at Too Conservative…classic Jimmy. As you can also see, Jimmy considers the diminutive of his name to be as insulting as “bitch,” for instance…further showing the diminutive form to be the most appropriate for him.

  22. Elite Establishment said on 14 Apr 2009 at 11:58 am:
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    Just shut up, knock doors, make calls, and do what we tell you!

  23. Ron said on 14 Apr 2009 at 12:48 pm:
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    OK, everyone, can we stop bickering long enough to think things through?

    I have been pretty much on the sideliines through the whole Jeff Frederick debate. Really! I harbor him no ill will, and have tried to keep an open mind and listen to both sides of the argument. Admittedly, I am confused, and all this removal may well boil down to 1) poor fundraising (someone please confirm this one way or the other), and/or 2) image problems.

    So what happens when we get to the May 30 convention? First of all, can we keep it family-friendly? As a parent, I implore all of you to do so.

    More practically, what if Frederick somehow manages to reinstate himself? Does the State Central Committee just remove him from office again? Lather, rinse, and repeat? That can’t possibly be healthy for the RPV, and I hope we can all admit to it. Can Frederick and the SCC possibly come to an agreement to work cooperatively? (Hey, I know, those who do not believe in miracles are not being realistic, right?)

    All of you, please take a breather and pull back from the personal attacks. We are all supposed to be on the same side here. I plan to attend the convention and look forward to seeing and/or meeting many of you there.

    And on another topic, the Israelis are also pondering what to do about illegal foreign workers:

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3700189,00.html

  24. Loudoun Insider said on 14 Apr 2009 at 2:35 pm:
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    Mom, Vincent will tell you himself I kept that site rolling for some time while he was busy with school. I keep charlatan imposter conservatives in check. I’ve been effective whether you like it or not.

    Ron, there is no way Frederick will get re-elected after everything he’s done. That’s a moot point. It is time to move on - to a real competent conservative to run RPV.

  25. Jon Wright said on 14 Apr 2009 at 5:52 pm:
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    Dear Loudmouth from Loudoun,

    At least this time you are sticking your “anteater nose” into state politics upon which, in my opinion, you have a right to comment. Usually you are blabbering your verbal diarrhea about PWC politics which you know little about. Stay in your own county carpetbagger. If you don’t like Jimmy, challenge him to a duel. At least Jimmy is from Frederick’s district. YOU AIN’T. YO AWC..last time anyone checked you ain’t from Frederick’s district either. STFU.

    Yours truly,
    Jon Wright

  26. AWCheney said on 14 Apr 2009 at 6:06 pm:
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    Actually Mr. Wright, we are ALL from his district…the issue revolves around RPV State Chairman. I’m not surprised that Jimmy’s circle has shrunk to people such yourself.

  27. Jon Wright said on 14 Apr 2009 at 6:21 pm:
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    AWC…You vote for Frederick last time? STFU.

    Yours truly.
    Jon Wright

  28. AWCheney said on 14 Apr 2009 at 6:26 pm:
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    I’m sorry to say, you really are rather dense, Mr. Wright. Come up with an intelligent question and I’ll be happy to enlighten you.

  29. AWCheney said on 14 Apr 2009 at 6:35 pm:
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    At least try a question that is relevant.

  30. Jon Wright said on 14 Apr 2009 at 7:09 pm:
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    AWC,
    I’m sorry, someone told me you lived in a trailer in Yorkshire which would put you in Marshall’s district? Surely they were mistaken. If you really voted for Frederick last time maybe you live closer to the old stump dump at 234 and Rt1. Jimmy, I believe lives in Montclair which IS in Frederick’s district and would make him a constituent worthy for commentary.

    Yours truly,
    Jon Wright

  31. AWCheney said on 14 Apr 2009 at 7:23 pm:
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    Mr. Wright, I noticed from your comments in a previous thread (“Deaf Ears” in PWC) that you were inordinately pre-occupied with mental health services in Virginia, despite that subject being out of context to the thread. I take it that the subject hits very close to home for you.

  32. Loudoun Insider said on 14 Apr 2009 at 10:30 pm:
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    STFU yourself. Frederick WAS Chairman of RPV (and an awful one at that). Now you may get your wish of continuing to vote for him in your HOD District. Enjoy.

  33. NoVA Scout said on 17 Apr 2009 at 5:53 am:
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    Does anyone understand why JY is so obsessed with the word “belittle” and its cognates? He has probably used that word more times over the past four years than the rest of the English Speaking Peoples combined.

  34. T-Diddy said on 19 Apr 2009 at 9:08 am:
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    This thread serves to show how fragmented and disorganized the RPV really has become under Frederick’s leadership. Instead of May, the RPV better be looking at November, otherwise you get a Principi on the state level!

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