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How Soon Before The Gulags Are Built?

By Greg L | 14 April 2009 | National Politics | 51 Comments

The Department of Homeland Security released an intelligence assessment yesterday entitled: “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.” DHS has completed a number of assessments in the past four years informing local police departments of Islamic Jihadists, the illicit use of portable digital music players, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists prison gangs. Now they turn to a new, grave threat to the Constituion: Christians. Veterans. People who peaceably and lawfully use the political process to oppose gay “marriage”, abortion, illegal immigration, the abuse of eminent domain, and the list goes on. Essentially, if you strongly oppose the policies of the Obama Administration, you are now considered a “potential terrorist”.

The report makes a sweeping attempt to inform local law enforcement about what to look for in order to to quickly and accurately identify “rightwing extremists” so that officials may effectively “deter, prevent, preempt or respond to terrorist attacks against the United States” and so it could “facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the United States.” Instead of the very focused, almost surgical assessments of the past, this report paints just about anyone who fails to fully align with left-wing ideologies as extremists a hair-trigger removed from engaging in politically-inspired violence on a massive scale.

The report looks as if it could have been authored by the SPLC or one of their kookier local adherents. The assessment defines “rightwing extremism” as groups, movements and adherents that are “primarily hate-oriented and those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority… It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.” If that is not stunning enough, the assessment further defines “rightwing extremists” as persons who oppose gun control, federalism, outsourcing, free trade, same-sex “marriage” or those who support a different political agenda from the current administration, a strong national defense or those who are Christians. The biggest single threat, called out numerous times, are returning military veterans who have combat skills.

Yes, they’re talking about those very people who have put their lives on the line in order to defend this great nation. Combat veterans did so for meager pay, bore hardships non-veterans can hardly imagine, suffered in some of the most inhospitable climates without shelter, warm food, or anything approaching adequate sleep, and then had people running all over trying to kill them day and night. They did this so folks such as “community organizers” could sit in some cozy office in their clean clothes, sip on double lattes and whine about how bad their lives were in America. Now that the “community organizer” types are in power, instead of tearfully thanking that soldier or marine who ensured they could have that nice office, those clean clothes, that warm coffee-based beverage and the chance to whine like children about how life was unfair without having to worry about some radical jihadist sawing their head off, they say those soldiers and marines are now to be observed as potential terrorists.

This DHS intelligence assessment is contemptible. It unapologetically casts the 55 million citizens who do not support the policies of the Obama administration as “rightwing extremists” and encourages local law enforcement to “report information concerning suspicious or criminal activity to DHS and FBI.” Presumably, those persons who’s social and political opinions matching the DHS definition of “rightwing extremists” will be reported. This blatant attempt to suppress political discourse and disagreement with the current legislative and executive branches of our government is utterly disgraceful and cannot go unchallenged.  We have to step up and demand our government stop treating the people like they’re somehow their enemies.

Otherwise, one has to wonder if this attempt to silence dissent is successful how long it will be before “re-education camps” start cropping up.

Welcome to the dawn of the Gulag.

H/T: Councilman Dennis Husch from the Town Of Herndon for sending out his thoughts on this which I have expanded on in this post.



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51 Comments

  1. citizenofmanassas said on 14 Apr 2009 at 8:57 pm:
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    We have always had extremists in this Country, the issue now is the Government trying to invent a story in order to push their even more socialism on us? Or, has there really been an increase in activity?

    Though, in another ironic twist, was it not the left that complained about President Bush supposely cracking down on civil rights?

    ?

  2. FED UP said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:20 pm:
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    Wow….so this is what happens to a country in less than 100 days since the “community organizer” entered the White House….
    I knew it was getting bad….but not this bad.
    Very sad times.

  3. Truth to Power said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:21 pm:
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    Yep… this is the first directive to the new Gestapo and thought-police.

  4. Truth to Power said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:23 pm:
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    Just kidding… I didn’t really type that… must be a computer error… really!

  5. Charlie Fugate said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:25 pm:
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    Greg,

    I know I’ve not commented a lot on BVBL, but I just wanted to commend you for your take on this crap from DHS. I appreciate your thoughtfulness and insight.

  6. sahdman said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:44 pm:
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    Hail Obama our supreme lord and master.

  7. Red, White and Blue said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:48 pm:
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    I expected nothing less from the radical left - nothing less. This is how oppressive governments begin. The nazi’s did it well. Demonize and put fear into those who oppose their “principals” - which is NOTHING.
    Now with the likes of NObama and, his radical cronies, with the scum of the earth Al Franken (what in the hell were those Minnesotians thinking?) coming to a theater near you, what did people really think “hope and change” meant?
    Hope is not a virtue; it is desire without action.

    They have taken the country and imposed blacklisting and the dreaded and hated “McCarthyism” on most of the country. Many NObama voters were in the middle or just upset with Bush - not really radical or leftist. Minnesota has no idea what is coming, for example.

    Radicalism is in vogue and they are leading by fiat, not morals. Look at Schumer stating that tradition and values as we knew it are gone. Pelosi and Reid are in euphoric mode. Kennedy knew this would happen and probably got his wish before he dies.

    Demonize and terrorize. And these same idiots used to call Bush a terrorist and call for his impeachment??????

    I guess I fit the future terrorist mold quite well. I qualified with in at least 5 categories. I never knew that I was more dangerous than Mohammad Atta and less than American. I guess those awards for valor in combat were just a “label” of a future terrorist.

    Obama - Yeah he ain’t like those past President’s - didn’t he tell us that? I wonder if he considers Bill Ayers a great patriot? What is a great patriot anymore?
    Change - you can believe in and if you don’t —— You are a potential “threat”.

    Damn right! Wait until 2010, 2012 you bast…ds!

  8. Emma said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:51 pm:
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    Link to the right-wing extremism report:

    http://www.thelibertypapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf

    Link to the left-wing extremism report:
    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Leftwing_Extremist_Threat.pdf

    Apparently left-wing extremists are so much more cerebral than the right-wingers, because their threat is largely due to potential cyber attacks. Never mind their past acts of eco-terrorism. They just sit at their laptops sipping lattes and hacking.

    The repeated statements about the violence potential of combat-trained soldiers is SHAMEFUL.

  9. Anonymous said on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:58 pm:
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    Let me guess, they can’t deport 12 million illegals, but they are ready to jail millions of legal citizens for having an opinion. Wait a minute, I thought we were talking about Samolia!

    Where can we get a transcript of the report?

  10. Truth to Power said on 14 Apr 2009 at 10:01 pm:
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    Here’s the link: http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

  11. Rocky said on 14 Apr 2009 at 10:59 pm:
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    Whose next? The AARP?

  12. wineplz said on 14 Apr 2009 at 11:15 pm:
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    Rocky said on 14 Apr 2009 at 10:59 pm:
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    Whose next? The AARP?

    I think a lot of AARP members are lumped in with the Vets. Gives me some new ideas for my signs for tomorrow’s Tea Party at Lafayette Park:
    “Honk if you’re a disgruntled right-wing extremist!”
    “Get ready to black-list me: Crazy Right-Wing Tea-Partyer”
    “For Sale: US Constitution–lovingly protected for 200 years–current sworn guardians feel it doesn’t fit their ideals–has some trample marks.”

  13. Citizen12 said on 15 Apr 2009 at 1:51 am:
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    The “extremist” to be concerned with are the very people implimenting these actions, and not perceptions, that the average citizen is reacting to.

    If nothing else this comfirms that, like the last administration, if you do not favor an expansive federal goverment and all it “offers” from a new world order, you are labeld extremist and therefore you are. So be it.

    I would remind you that extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
    - Barry Goldwater

  14. DPortM said on 15 Apr 2009 at 4:45 am:
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    Last I heard, the states are sovereign. So reading this article was quite chilling to me.

  15. DPortM said on 15 Apr 2009 at 4:50 am:
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    Wineplz -

    I hope to see you at Lafayette Park today. One of my signs reads as follows:

    I BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION
    I am a Right-Wing Extremist

    The time to make a stand for America is now….

  16. Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2009 at 5:17 am:
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    I read the report, and the one thing that stands out is the fact that the report itself sounds like it was written by a leftwing extremist. Most conservatives would fall into the areas of concern that are pointed out in the report. The word perception is used over and over as if there is no truth in the rightwing concerns. It appears to me that this report is meant to give the ‘perception’ that anyone with conservative opinions is a potential terrorist rather than a concerned citizen. Though they state it is a subject of great concern they could only point to several isolated incidents over the past 20 years. I’d have to say that we as a country have much more to be concerned about from domestic gangs in all our major cities than a bunch of conservatives voicing their researched opinions.

  17. Charlie Fugate said on 15 Apr 2009 at 6:03 am:
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    Anon,

    I picked up on that too. The phrase “rightwing extremist” is used countless times, and a number of those occur within the same paragraphs. The report itself defines the conservative ethos almost as well as any conservative can. It pontificates about the division of extremism “…and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority…” what conservative does not favor state or local authority over federal authority? This is a blatant targeting of conservative thought and activism, nothing less.

  18. John Galt said on 15 Apr 2009 at 8:04 am:
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    “Yep… this is the first directive to the new Gestapo and thought-police.”

    Not Gestapo, that would be Facist, and therefore, Right-Wing. A better term would be Stazi, as in the infamous East German secret police.

    Yes, it won’t be long before a bunch of good, solid citizens are being “reeducated at a camp, that used to be the old drive-in movie theater.”

    I heard that there is a remake of Red Dawn in pre-production, for release in 2010. I wonder if the Obama admin will use its allies in Hollywood to get this production squashed. Wouldn’t want to be stirring up the “right wing extremists”.

  19. Cynic said on 15 Apr 2009 at 8:10 am:
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    Just wondering, is MS-13 on their terrorist list?

    How about those radicals who rioted at NC while former Congressman Tancredo was giving his speech.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6761633

  20. Big Dog said on 15 Apr 2009 at 9:06 am:
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    “I may disagree with what you say, but I will fight for
    your right to say it.”
    Thomas Jefferson
    “Yes, racist we will fight.
    We know where you sleep at night.”
    Chant of mob that stopped Tancredo speech

    You don’t have to be a fan of Tom Tancredo or his views
    to be shaken by what happened on the campus of
    the University of North Carolina this week. The
    former Congressmen was invited to speak by an
    official student group, Youth For Western Civilization,
    in a UNC lecture hall with security and logistics
    provided by the school. When he started to speak,
    an angry riot broke out, including physical violence
    and Mr. Trancredo had to be rushed to safety.
    “We are sorry Tom Tancredo wasn’t able to speak”,
    said Chancellor Holden Thorp, “We pride ourselves
    on being a place where all points of view can e expressed.”
    Be clear, I would be just as upset if this was a
    liberal speaker being attacked the same way
    by conservatives. If you don’t agree with the
    speaker don’t go to the speech! Or, if you do go,
    be respectful - if not of the speaker, at least of
    the core American value of open debate and free speech.

  21. Mark said on 15 Apr 2009 at 9:44 am:
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    Wow….I’m absolutely stunned at this report. I am a retired American Noncommissioned Officer. To see my views being equated with terrorism is extremely chilling to me. Who the hell are they to label me as an extremist or terrorist because I don’t believe in big Federal government and prefer more state authority? I don’t believe in doing nothing about illegal immigrants. I don’t believe in the overthrow of marriage as it has been defined for thousands of years. I don’t believe in bailing out freaking banks and auto companies.

    What has happened to my country that I was so proud to have fought for? What has happened that common sense has left the building? This is what happens when we don’t voice our opinions, don’t hold rallies, don’t get pissed off like the left wing radicals. They take over. And idiocy takes the helm.

  22. Red, White and Blue said on 15 Apr 2009 at 10:11 am:
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    Were are all the “Obama Blues” on this one?

    Probably jumping for joy and getting silly with anticipation.

    Hope and Change. What a joke if it were only one.

    Problem is an empty suit runs the show like it is the Academy Awards or something.

  23. mnd said on 15 Apr 2009 at 11:32 am:
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    Mark,

    Just wait until they use last year’s “NICS Improvement Act” and show up at your door with a court order to remove all your firearms.

    You are, after all, unstable and a danger to the public because of your prior military service and the stress it exposed you to.

    Don’t think its coming?

  24. BattleCat said on 15 Apr 2009 at 1:31 pm:
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    Fox News just reported that there’s a left-wing report, too, and that both reports were initiated or ordered by the Bush administration.

  25. BothPartiesColludeAgainstYouAndMarketToYourFears said on 15 Apr 2009 at 1:35 pm:
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    You guys are really off your rockers.

    When the Bush Administration was engaged in reactionary b.s. for years, you were all in favor of it because you saw “bad Arabs’ as the targets. Hence you supported something as insane as Guantanemo Bay - round them up, torture them (to one degree or another), and figure out who they are and whether they were falsely accused later.

    And many or most of you had no issues with serveillance of and arguably profiling of Muslims in the U.S. or Arabs in the U.S., to include many U.S. citizens.

    Now, when DOHS rightfully points out that we should also keep an eye out for the Tim McVeighs of the world, suddenly it’s a “police state”.

    The formation of DOHS was inane in the first place. The creation of a new beauracracy was asinine. Most of you applauded it or tolerated it.

    My opinion? DOHS is a waste of space for the most part I’m sure, in the absense of a secure border. Eliminate it or streamline it and put 5% of that money into border security. But use all legal means - including profiling and surveillance - to detect terrorism, by citizens and non-citizens alike.

  26. Johnson said on 15 Apr 2009 at 1:48 pm:
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    We’ve been snarking at this elitist crap all day in our office. The best part is, our new Secretary Skunkhead doesn’t see the irony (or the racism/sexism) in the big picture. That’s how you know that they are elitists. They can’t think on our level.

  27. Sal Minella said on 15 Apr 2009 at 2:00 pm:
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    I’ve ordered a yellow rear window sign:

    Danger: Right Wing Extremist on Board

    Kind of like belonging to the “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy” that ole Hillary was so fearful of.

  28. Johnson said on 15 Apr 2009 at 2:18 pm:
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    How did “The People’s Republic Of” Maryland ever get this passed?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/14/AR2009041402884.html

  29. Johnson said on 15 Apr 2009 at 2:36 pm:
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    BPCAYAMTYF-
    Nice name enhancement.
    You are correct in the fact that DHS was a huge waste of time, money and effort. It was, in fact, a thinly veiled effort to: 1) dissolve INS as a agency and fold it into Customs and 2) give the appearance that your government was “doing something” about border security when in fact, it was our congress that relaxed immigration rules to allow the 9/11 terrorists to enter. We were forced to tolerate it. Let’s face it, the new patches suck. How would any of us feel about being forced to learn 2 more full-time jobs with little or no training? I’m amazed that any of us stayed at all, much less absorb as much as we did. We think that what we do is pretty important and we give it our best, regardless of what our “leaders” shove down our throats. Rest assured that we’ll keep at it.

  30. poetic justice said on 15 Apr 2009 at 4:24 pm:
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    We can label him extremist freak,
    If he happens to look like a sheik,
    But when thoughts he conveys breed a hundred McVeighs,
    He’s no extremist, he’s just Greg Leteicq

  31. mnd said on 15 Apr 2009 at 4:36 pm:
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    Honestly, hundreds of McVeighs scare me far less than one Stalin.

  32. Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2009 at 4:37 pm:
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    Oh, wow, such insight from Katherine Gotthardt herself! Who else writes such crappy prose?

  33. Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2009 at 4:39 pm:
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    Greg, I guess you should be flattered that she comes here panting for attention after her rejection yesterday.

  34. FED UP said on 15 Apr 2009 at 6:30 pm:
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    poetic justice said on 15 Apr 2009 at 4:24 pm: Flag comment

    You poor, poor, pathetic “thing”…..

  35. Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2009 at 6:43 pm:
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    Katherine, why would you ever want to be the public face of a county with such a lousy reputation, anyway? You know, a county with all those racist rednecks running around scaring everyone with brown skin? Why, I went to Wal-mart yesterday and there wasn’t a single brown face anywhere, because they are all in hiding, cowering in fear of the evil BOCS. Our lily-white public schools are a monument to that racism. You would have had to lie to encourage anyone to visit this backwater hick town, anyway.

  36. FED UP said on 15 Apr 2009 at 9:40 pm:
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    Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2009 at 6:43 pm: Flag comment

    GREAT post!

  37. FED UP said on 16 Apr 2009 at 9:09 am:
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    Big Dog said on 15 Apr 2009 at 9:06 am: Flag comment

    I was so disgusted and embarrassed by what I saw happen to Tom Tancredo at UNC. I was fortunate to see him speak recently at GMU and he is nothing but a class act. They may be making arrests, once they review the tapes. I hope they do and I hope they post every name of every idiot who was out there trying to stop his right to free speech!

  38. anon said on 16 Apr 2009 at 12:21 pm:
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    Johnson: When you say “they can’t think at our level,” do you mean the level that takes a report (initiated under the previous administration) that merely notes that the possibility (as demonstrated with McVeigh) exists for a right-wing violent radicalization path, and converts it into “ZOMG!!!! TEH LIBS HATE ALL CONSERVATIVES!!! THEY THINK VETS ARE TEH EVIL!!! CATS AND DOGS SLEEPING TOGETHER!!! WHARRRGARBL!!!!!!!”?

    The report raises interesting questions. It does nothing more than say, based on past experience and current events here’s something to be aware of. But it turns out conservatives have their own sort of political correctness and can’t abide those questions being posed. Interesting.

  39. AWCheney said on 16 Apr 2009 at 2:39 pm:
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    “It does nothing more than say, based on past experience and current events here’s something to be aware of.”

    As much as you would like to think so, anon, the political atmosphere of the past decade has legitimized the fear expressed here. There are Executive Orders which exist giving unimaginable powers to the President merely through the act of the declaration of martial law; since 9/11 and the passage of the Patriot Act, the Chief Executive has used that threat to cower the Legislative Branch into submission, passing legislation giving the Executive Branch virtual autonomy in governing; the Patriot Act itself has abrogated the individual rights guaranteed to the citizen in the false name of “security,” enabling anyone to be arrested without warrant, charge, writ of Habeas Corpus, or any other judicial or Constitutional protection…in other words, disappear into the night without recourse; and our current President has made enormous progress in a mere 100 plus days in eliminating what other little control we still have over our lives (mortgaging our future to unimaginable limits; seeking government control of our health care, to the point of determining who is entitled to live or die; destroying what little is left of our economy).

    Soon we, as individuals, will no longer have any rights or control over our lives because everything will be decided for us if we wish to survive…including what we are allowed to think. The outspoken will be the first to be silenced…do you think you will be far behind?

  40. Cynic said on 16 Apr 2009 at 5:31 pm:
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    Big Time News - Thought I heard Katherine M. Gotthardt talking on a news broadcast today. Just caught the end of it. Whoever it was, was making comments about tourism in PW Co.

    Anyone happen to listen to the entire segment?

  41. Prester John said on 16 Apr 2009 at 6:00 pm:
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    Cynic,

    It was WMAL and the report mentioned that she was not approved because of her “blog writings”. It then cut to a sound bite from her. The report gave no examples of the sort of things she has written and would leave anyone who didn’t know the details thinking, “what was the big deal about that?”

  42. cdubbs said on 16 Apr 2009 at 10:10 pm:
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    Sometimes I have to laugh out loud at the just plain stupid things that the Obama administration does almost every day. They do not understand the powers that they are unleashing against themselves.

    There is a wave starting to roll out in the hinterlands of our country. A wave made stronger each day by someone who says simply ‘this is not right’ and begins to gather information about the freedom and liberty they stand to lose. It is rolling now, increasing with the addition of each family joined together in a mission to take back their future. The old and the young are beginning to gather together in increasingly larger numbers. You may have seen its wake yesterday. The force that guides the ebb and flow of nations has begun to shape the undercurrent in cities and towns from Pittsburgh to Sacramento. A tide that will only become stronger as the voices of liberty and personal responsibility rise against the storm. This is the patriotism that our forefathers knew. This is the tide that swept America ashore so long ago and will most certainly sweep the fetid refuse of Washington away tomorrow. It has begun to roll… passing from one to another gathering energy like a huge leyden jar. The days of stupid things and lost liberties are numbered.

  43. Cynic said on 16 Apr 2009 at 10:16 pm:
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    Prester John, Thanks.

    Well, WMAL seems to be in the process of balancing their line up which translates to having more liberals in the line up. They just canceled Chris Plant’s morning show. Replaced him with those two from MSNBC’s morning show (I think that is what I heard as I do not watch TV that much.) One is suppose to be a conservative, the other a liberal.

    Over the last year or so, they sacked Michael Graham, Chris Core, and Chris Plant - all conservatives; all opposed to illegal immigration. All this is probably driven by their sensitivities to the “fairness doctrine”!

  44. Anonymous said on 16 Apr 2009 at 10:58 pm:
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    Michael Graham is alive and well as a talk show host in Boston. Our loss is Boston’s gain and I was sorry to see him get sacked on WMAL. He stood up for his convictions and would not appoligize for something he said and truly believed in with regard to illegal immigration. He put himself in danger when he attended an illegal immigrant demonstration by wearing a ICE t-shirt.

  45. Advocator said on 17 Apr 2009 at 1:29 pm:
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    AWC’s post above would imply that Pastor Niemoller’s admonition might be paraphrased today to begin: First they came for the Outspoken, and I did nothing, because … .

    That is why we should not caricature, ridicule, and personally attack those who express themselves on this or any other blog, regardless of how loathsome their character or how sinister their motives. Debate the issues, not the person.

  46. Johnson said on 17 Apr 2009 at 2:59 pm:
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    Anon-
    The level of thinking I was referring to can spell. (Teh)?
    I don’t text, so forgive my ignorance. As far as the report goes, it was written by the Bush DHS. I work for an agency which is part of DHS. You say potato, I say potahto. I perceived it as a vastly overblown assessment of a threat that barely exists while castigating veterans and white male gun owners. I am all three and could hardly be considered such a threat, as it is part of my job to stop terrorists. My boss, Janet Napolitano, has already apologized and admitted that the report should not have been released as written. Some GS-14 dropped the ball and nobody bothered to check the report before it hit the media.

    Or did they?

  47. Greg L said on 17 Apr 2009 at 3:29 pm:
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    So how did the report come to paraphrase hyperbolic copy from the SPLC, if this was crafted by the Bush administration? The appearance here is that the report got entirely revamped by the new administration eager to brand conservatives as “extremists” and veterans as “potential terrorists.” I can’t imagine anything like this coming from the Bush administration.

  48. Tyler Durden said on 17 Apr 2009 at 3:34 pm:
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    Two bits says the report was vetted at the highest levels and meant to say exactly what it said. Napolitano figured at worst she’d have to apologize to a few old angry white guys who are too scared of losing their jobs to do anything but give her a Mulligan for it.

    I doubt any GS-14 authored it. My bet is it was copied from something the hatemongers at the Southern Poverty Lie Center wrote.

  49. Cynic said on 18 Apr 2009 at 8:42 am:
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    Greg L and Tyler Durden - FYI. Lots of other stuff out there on Morris Dees of the SPLC. Some of it may be true!

    http://www.americanpatrol.com/SPLC/ChurchofMorrisDees001100.html

    Have to agree that they vetted this propaganda at the highest levels and would not be surprised if someone at the SPLC wrote it.

  50. Johnson said on 18 Apr 2009 at 10:59 am:
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    Greg-

    Astute observation. Doesn’t the timing seem strange, what with Obama in Mexico, apologizing for our terrible behavior yet again? We’ve already been asked to volunteer for the southern border outbound enforcement TDY’s. Those who are not bargaining unit members have already been forced south, to stem the flow of guns.

    Right. We have been trying to do outbound operations for YEARS. We’ve always been told that the inbound wait times are more important than the outbound enforcement, even though that’s how the money goes out.

  51. John Kerry said on 26 Apr 2009 at 1:12 am:
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    The-FEMA-camps-already-exist.

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