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	<title>Comments on: Open Thread</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84159</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84159</guid>
		<description>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518196,00.html

I was wondering when the blame would be shifted to the U.S.
After all, we can't have Mexico appearing to be a filthy, diseased, third world suckhole. Why would anyone want to leave such a paradise?</description>
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<p>I was wondering when the blame would be shifted to the U.S.<br />
After all, we can&#8217;t have Mexico appearing to be a filthy, diseased, third world suckhole. Why would anyone want to leave such a paradise?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84145</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84145</guid>
		<description>Patriot-
You are correct in your assumption that obviously ill passengers/border crossers are admitted to the U.S. I have never seen a passenger turned away for illness, even TB. Illegal aliens are worse, since we lose the opportunity to inspect/interview them before they've entered our society. The only time we've ever closed the borders entirely was on 9/11 and it wasn't 5 minutes before Mexico and Canada were calling to complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot-<br />
You are correct in your assumption that obviously ill passengers/border crossers are admitted to the U.S. I have never seen a passenger turned away for illness, even TB. Illegal aliens are worse, since we lose the opportunity to inspect/interview them before they&#8217;ve entered our society. The only time we&#8217;ve ever closed the borders entirely was on 9/11 and it wasn&#8217;t 5 minutes before Mexico and Canada were calling to complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84144</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84144</guid>
		<description>"with the help of ICE"

Given the policies of the current Adm., do your really think that ICE will help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;with the help of ICE&#8221;</p>
<p>Given the policies of the current Adm., do your really think that ICE will help?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84143</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84143</guid>
		<description>Big Dog said on 25 Apr 2009 at 4:14 pm: Flag comment 

Anonymous, it was a Manassas PARK officer that
was alleged to have roughed up the Hispanic woman
during a routine traffic stop. No charges, to my
knowledge have been filed, and I think it was a
publicity stunt on her part with the help of a few pals
like “Sign Man” Fernandez.

Thanks for the correction.  I meant to say Manassas Park vice the City.  It's strange that the media has not followed-up on the story since the Virginia State police were investigating the incident.  Neither the MJM nor the radio and tv stations that reported the "incident" have given an update.  It's easy to see how quick they are reporting without having the facts.  If I were the police officer, I think I would now own a newspaper, and some radio and TV stations.  I would also see that the accuser, with the help of ICE was on her way back to the jungles of El Salvadore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Dog said on 25 Apr 2009 at 4:14 pm: Flag comment </p>
<p>Anonymous, it was a Manassas PARK officer that<br />
was alleged to have roughed up the Hispanic woman<br />
during a routine traffic stop. No charges, to my<br />
knowledge have been filed, and I think it was a<br />
publicity stunt on her part with the help of a few pals<br />
like “Sign Man” Fernandez.</p>
<p>Thanks for the correction.  I meant to say Manassas Park vice the City.  It&#8217;s strange that the media has not followed-up on the story since the Virginia State police were investigating the incident.  Neither the MJM nor the radio and tv stations that reported the &#8220;incident&#8221; have given an update.  It&#8217;s easy to see how quick they are reporting without having the facts.  If I were the police officer, I think I would now own a newspaper, and some radio and TV stations.  I would also see that the accuser, with the help of ICE was on her way back to the jungles of El Salvadore.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84142</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84142</guid>
		<description>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 25 Apr 2009 at 8:12 pm: Flag comment 

We need to shut down the border with all of this illness garbage going around. It is a matter of public safety. All those schools that have children of illegal immigrant parents…they could be carriers of these illnesses. Are they even screened?

NO!  It would be politically incorrect to do so and LA RAZA and ilk would cry racial discrimmination and racial profiling.  What a country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 25 Apr 2009 at 8:12 pm: Flag comment </p>
<p>We need to shut down the border with all of this illness garbage going around. It is a matter of public safety. All those schools that have children of illegal immigrant parents…they could be carriers of these illnesses. Are they even screened?</p>
<p>NO!  It would be politically incorrect to do so and LA RAZA and ilk would cry racial discrimmination and racial profiling.  What a country!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84127</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84127</guid>
		<description>The Patriot - FYI. Michael Savage wrote a "book" on the diseases (like TB) that immigrants bring into the Country. As I understand it, at one time, immigrants entering the Country were given physicals. Those who did not pass the physical were not allowed to enter. Now, an immigrant stands a better chance of being cleared for entry if they have some health or other problem - the bigger the problem, the better! Of course, there are no issues with illegals entering our Country! 

Michael's book was never published as no publisher wanted to publish it since it was too political incorrect.

Maybe if a sufficient number of us survive the pandemic, someone will publish it! 

Also, I think the info. on this flu threat/potential was out there much earlier than reported by our PC press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot - FYI. Michael Savage wrote a &#8220;book&#8221; on the diseases (like TB) that immigrants bring into the Country. As I understand it, at one time, immigrants entering the Country were given physicals. Those who did not pass the physical were not allowed to enter. Now, an immigrant stands a better chance of being cleared for entry if they have some health or other problem - the bigger the problem, the better! Of course, there are no issues with illegals entering our Country! </p>
<p>Michael&#8217;s book was never published as no publisher wanted to publish it since it was too political incorrect.</p>
<p>Maybe if a sufficient number of us survive the pandemic, someone will publish it! </p>
<p>Also, I think the info. on this flu threat/potential was out there much earlier than reported by our PC press.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84123</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84123</guid>
		<description>"Of thirty-nine Virginia cities, only one
provided no audited information to the Commonwealth
(eight months after the end of the fiscal year) and that
was Manassas Park. A very clear violation of
Section 15.2 -2510, Code of Virginia.
You may want to ask about that."

Thank you, I've downloaded the file and I'm looking at it now. Indeed, the data for Manassas Park is missing. 

http://www.apa.state.va.us/data/download/local_government/comparative_cost/Cost08.XLS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of thirty-nine Virginia cities, only one<br />
provided no audited information to the Commonwealth<br />
(eight months after the end of the fiscal year) and that<br />
was Manassas Park. A very clear violation of<br />
Section 15.2 -2510, Code of Virginia.<br />
You may want to ask about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you, I&#8217;ve downloaded the file and I&#8217;m looking at it now. Indeed, the data for Manassas Park is missing. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.apa.state.va.us/data/download/local_government/comparative_cost/Cost08.XLS" rel="nofollow">http://www.apa.state.va.us/data/download/local_government/comparative_cost/Cost08.XLS</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84116</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84116</guid>
		<description>We need to shut down the border with all of this illness garbage going around. It is a matter of public safety. All those schools that have children of illegal immigrant parents...they could be carriers of these illnesses. Are they even screened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to shut down the border with all of this illness garbage going around. It is a matter of public safety. All those schools that have children of illegal immigrant parents&#8230;they could be carriers of these illnesses. Are they even screened?</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84114</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84114</guid>
		<description>Johnson, agree. As usual...no liberal that I have seen addresses these topics of GREAT INTEREST. Why? Because they KNOW the conservatives are right and that their argument is illogical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnson, agree. As usual&#8230;no liberal that I have seen addresses these topics of GREAT INTEREST. Why? Because they KNOW the conservatives are right and that their argument is illogical.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84112</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84112</guid>
		<description>Patriot-

I believe that liberals use "intolerant" in the same manner as "racist". Anyone who disagrees with them is either one or both. I thought that they were better educated and therefore, smarter than us ignorant conservatives, who cling to our God and our guns?

Sticks and stones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot-</p>
<p>I believe that liberals use &#8220;intolerant&#8221; in the same manner as &#8220;racist&#8221;. Anyone who disagrees with them is either one or both. I thought that they were better educated and therefore, smarter than us ignorant conservatives, who cling to our God and our guns?</p>
<p>Sticks and stones&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84108</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84108</guid>
		<description>Anonymous, it was a Manassas PARK officer that 
was alleged to have roughed up the Hispanic woman
during a routine traffic stop.  No charges, to my
knowledge have been filed, and I think it was a
publicity stunt on her part with the help of a few pals
like "Sign Man" Fernandez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, it was a Manassas PARK officer that<br />
was alleged to have roughed up the Hispanic woman<br />
during a routine traffic stop.  No charges, to my<br />
knowledge have been filed, and I think it was a<br />
publicity stunt on her part with the help of a few pals<br />
like &#8220;Sign Man&#8221; Fernandez.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84106</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84106</guid>
		<description>Mr. Leeper,
              Please note that the Comparative Report of
 Local Revenues and Expenditures - Year Ended June 30, 2008
 - From the Commonwealth of Virginia Auditor of 
 Public Accounts is out and on the internet.
              Of thirty-nine Virginia cities, only one 
 provided no audited information to the Commonwealth
 (eight months after the end of the fiscal year) and that
was Manassas Park. A very clear violation of 
 Section 15.2 -2510, Code of Virginia.  
             You may want to ask about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Leeper,<br />
              Please note that the Comparative Report of<br />
 Local Revenues and Expenditures - Year Ended June 30, 2008<br />
 - From the Commonwealth of Virginia Auditor of<br />
 Public Accounts is out and on the internet.<br />
              Of thirty-nine Virginia cities, only one<br />
 provided no audited information to the Commonwealth<br />
 (eight months after the end of the fiscal year) and that<br />
was Manassas Park. A very clear violation of<br />
 Section 15.2 -2510, Code of Virginia.<br />
             You may want to ask about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84101</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84101</guid>
		<description>Where is that Salvadoran woman who alleged she was beaten up by a Manassas City cop?  Is the cop back on duty?   Has she been deported yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is that Salvadoran woman who alleged she was beaten up by a Manassas City cop?  Is the cop back on duty?   Has she been deported yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84100</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84100</guid>
		<description>Dave in PWC said on 25 Apr 2009 at 9:39 am: Flag comment 

So now we are being sujected to both measles and swine flu. I wonder where the measles came from since most of us either had it or had the vaccine. 

Probably from the same place the tomatoes came from last year!  That country is totally disfunctional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave in PWC said on 25 Apr 2009 at 9:39 am: Flag comment </p>
<p>So now we are being sujected to both measles and swine flu. I wonder where the measles came from since most of us either had it or had the vaccine. </p>
<p>Probably from the same place the tomatoes came from last year!  That country is totally disfunctional.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84096</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84096</guid>
		<description>So now we are being sujected to both measles and swine flu.  I wonder where the measles came from since most of us either had it or had the vaccine.  Oops, I mean most of us legally in the country.  Just heard the president of Mexico has cancelled most outside activities in Mexico City because he's worried that the swine flu will turn into a pandemic.

Anyone work in the health community that can dig and find out where the measles came from?  Person works at a grocery store and hangs out at a 7-11.  Hmmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now we are being sujected to both measles and swine flu.  I wonder where the measles came from since most of us either had it or had the vaccine.  Oops, I mean most of us legally in the country.  Just heard the president of Mexico has cancelled most outside activities in Mexico City because he&#8217;s worried that the swine flu will turn into a pandemic.</p>
<p>Anyone work in the health community that can dig and find out where the measles came from?  Person works at a grocery store and hangs out at a 7-11.  Hmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: VA_Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84083</link>
		<dc:creator>VA_Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84083</guid>
		<description>Qoute
because crossing the border is not a crime per se. It is civil.
End Quote

There my friends is the root of the whole problem....they dont see living here illegally as a crime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qoute<br />
because crossing the border is not a crime per se. It is civil.<br />
End Quote</p>
<p>There my friends is the root of the whole problem&#8230;.they dont see living here illegally as a crime!</p>
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		<title>By: William Zimmerman</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84076</link>
		<dc:creator>William Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84076</guid>
		<description>Hello Everyone,

Come see former Congressman Virgil Goode at George Mason University on April 27.  We will feature insightful discussion and much more! Congressman Virgil Goode will be speaking on the topic of The Creeping Influence of Islam in America. We are expecting some other notable and special guests as well.

The event is free and open to the community. Please invite all friends and family!

Please email mason@yafva.org or give me a call at (434) 420-6323 for more information.

Date: April 27, 2009 - This Monday

Time: 7:30pm - 9:30pm

Place: Johnson Center Bistro - George Mason University -
Fairfax Campus

For additional information please see http://mason.yafva.org.

Thank you very much!

William Zimmerman
State Chairman
Young Americans for Freedom - Virginia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Everyone,</p>
<p>Come see former Congressman Virgil Goode at George Mason University on April 27.  We will feature insightful discussion and much more! Congressman Virgil Goode will be speaking on the topic of The Creeping Influence of Islam in America. We are expecting some other notable and special guests as well.</p>
<p>The event is free and open to the community. Please invite all friends and family!</p>
<p>Please email <a href="mailto:mason@yafva.org">mason@yafva.org</a> or give me a call at (434) 420-6323 for more information.</p>
<p>Date: April 27, 2009 - This Monday</p>
<p>Time: 7:30pm - 9:30pm</p>
<p>Place: Johnson Center Bistro - George Mason University -<br />
Fairfax Campus</p>
<p>For additional information please see <a href="http://mason.yafva.org." rel="nofollow">http://mason.yafva.org.</a></p>
<p>Thank you very much!</p>
<p>William Zimmerman<br />
State Chairman<br />
Young Americans for Freedom - Virginia</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84060</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84060</guid>
		<description>Oh...and BothParties...
If you actually read the Bible, homosexuality is a sin (which can be forgiven). I will let you do the research for your edification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;and BothParties&#8230;<br />
If you actually read the Bible, homosexuality is a sin (which can be forgiven). I will let you do the research for your edification.</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84059</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84059</guid>
		<description>On the topic of gay marriage. Again, this falls under the so-called "tolerance" argument made by the liberals. "Tolerance" to liberals is a one-way thing...in other words....you are tolerant only if you agree with their viewpoint. If you disagree you are considered "intolerant". So why aren't the liberals being "tolerant" of the conservative viewpoint (which largely disagrees with gay marriage). Wouldn't they (the liberals) now be "intolerant"? You decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of gay marriage. Again, this falls under the so-called &#8220;tolerance&#8221; argument made by the liberals. &#8220;Tolerance&#8221; to liberals is a one-way thing&#8230;in other words&#8230;.you are tolerant only if you agree with their viewpoint. If you disagree you are considered &#8220;intolerant&#8221;. So why aren&#8217;t the liberals being &#8220;tolerant&#8221; of the conservative viewpoint (which largely disagrees with gay marriage). Wouldn&#8217;t they (the liberals) now be &#8220;intolerant&#8221;? You decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84055</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/04/20/open-thread-36/#comment-84055</guid>
		<description>Both public hearings are at 7pm at City Hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both public hearings are at 7pm at City Hall.</p>
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