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Ken Cuccinelli For Attorney General

By Greg L | 30 April 2009 | Illegal Aliens, Virginia Politics | 30 Comments

The race for the Republican nomination for Attorney General got quite a bit more interesting this week after a bizarre email was sent out by the John Brownlee campaign that had lots of immigration enforcement activists scratching their heads.  At a debate in Southside this week, Brownlee claimed that Ken Cuccinelli had stated his opposition to having employers use E-Verify in the Commonwealth and tried to paint himself as the true immigration enforcement candidate.  Up until now, I’d had quite a bit of respect for Brownlee who had been right on the issues for the most part and seemed like a genuinely nice guy.  After this brazen lie however, it’s terribly clear that Brownlee is not the guy to be our candidate in November.

Brownlee’s email passed off this whopper, apparently thinking that the electorate has forgotten Ken Cucinelli’s record:

In response to a question regarding illegal aliens and undocumented workers, John Brownlee said he strongly supports “the use of the U.S. government’s E-Verify system.”  Brownlee supports making the use of E-Verify mandatory for all employers in the Commonwealth, including the state government, in an effort to reduce the number of illegal aliens in Virginia.  E-Verify is a proven and effective resource for employers to verify citizenship / residency status and screen out illegals who are seeking employment.

In a response to the same question, State Senator Ken Cuccinelli said he  opposed requiring private employers to use E-Verify, suggesting the system was too flawed to be reliable.

Independent reports from the event don’t at all jive with Brownlee’s depiction of what happened.  Cuccinelli said no such thing.  Not even close.  What Cuccinelli pointed out was that his experience in trying to get E-Verify passed in the hostile Senate it was a better political tactic to get the Senate to support mandating E-Verify for state employees, and it makes eminent sense to impose requirements first on government before businesses are required to comply with them.  If you want to get something through the Senate — a place Cuccinelli knows well, but where Brownlee apparently maintains a dedicated sense of general incompetence, you simply can’t introduce a sensible bill and expect it to survive.  Experience matters.

How that supposedly translates into E-Verify being “flawed” pretty much requires you make a determination about Brownlee’s character, and not in a favorable way.  Such a statement flies in the face of Cuccinelli’s dedication to this very issue long before Brownlee even knew what E-Verify was.

My personal experience lobbying for E-Verify in Richmond over the past several years on behalf of Save The Old Dominion has been that Ken Cuccinelli is the very best Senator on this issue that we have.  When Chuck Colgan introduced E-Verify bills and pledged to get them through using his senority and political power, only to immediately abandon the bills as soon as they started going through committees that immediately killed them, Ken Cuccinelli was the only Senator actively working to support them.  On the Courts of Justice Committee where some Republican Senators who should have been reliable votes failed us miserably, Ken was nearly the only Senator who not only could be relied on, but who would actively try to get these bills passed.

When these bills couldn’t get passed either due to Chuck Colgan abandoning his promises, or Ken Stolle siding up to his big-business buddies to protect their ability to unlawfully hire cheap illegal alien labor, Cuccinelli introduced and got passed the bills that actually could make it through the nightmare of our Senate of Virginia, such as SB517.  These weren’t the best bills that immigration enforcement advocates could have hoped for, but they were progress, and all of that progress had Ken’s name on it.  Simply put, without Ken Cuccinelli, Virginia wouldn’t have done at thing to address this issue.

Yet Brownlee thinks we’re going to buy this garbage about Cuccinelli being soft on illegal aliens taking American jobs.  This is a crock of stinking doo-doo, and he knows it.

Brownlee himself ought to answer a few questions about why he doesn’t support localities entering into agreements under Section 287(g) with the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, such as Prince William County has done.  Prince William County has turned over roughly 1,300 criminal illegal aliens for deportation.  Would Brownlee prefer we release those 1,300 criminal illegal aliens back onto our streets as we were pretty much doing before entering this program?  Perhaps Brownlee, who fashions himself as such the immigration enforcement candidate can explain his complete absence from Richmond this year when State Legislators For Legal Immigration (where Cuccinelli is a founding member) was trying to lobby Richmond and push along legislation to help address the illegal alien issue?  For someone who can brazenly lie about how someone else is weak on this issue, he sure hasn’t done anything at all other than make a few speeches about it.  About the only concrete thing he has done about the illegal alien issue was to lie about the positions of its greatest ally in the Senate of Virginia.

Feel used, patriots?  You should.  I for one have no use for people like John Brownlee who has clearly demonstrated he hasn’t the experience or qualifications to be the Republican nominee for Attorney General.  Ken Cuccinelli is the better choice, by far.

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  1. Karla H said on 30 Apr 2009 at 11:26 am:
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    Obama wants “comprehensive immigration reform as soon as the economic downturn ends”. Fortunately this may not be for 15 or 20 years :^)

    Meanwhile Bush wanted to grant amnesty to all illegals, and “his buddy”, “our candidate”, Mr. McCain collaborated with Teddy “the swimmer” Kennedy on a “comprehensive immigration reform bill”.

    Both parties want the illegal voting block! Political parties are designed to gang up against their own citizens.

    More independent reps are needed. Independent reps do not represent a party. This frees them up to represent their constituents (what a concept!).

    Eliminate the Democrat and Republican parties and we may see a change for the better. We may be able to get back to our roots.

  2. Big Dog said on 30 Apr 2009 at 11:47 am:
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    Agree Karla H., God bless Independents at every level
    of government - they are the ones who truly serve all

  3. Brian Leeper said on 30 Apr 2009 at 2:02 pm:
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    Except the ones in Manassas Park. They seem only to serve themselves.

  4. Jamie Radtke said on 30 Apr 2009 at 2:34 pm:
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    Great post Greg! You summarized this better than anywhere I have read. To go after Cuccinelli of all people on this issue is just clear desperation. I guess we know what the numbers are saying to them…

  5. Jimmy said on 30 Apr 2009 at 3:05 pm:
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    Greg: You are such a sell-out! Cuccinelli goes weak on immigration and you back him anyway. Just like on his vote for HB 3202. The indepedent voices from the debate clearly implicate Cuccinelli with his statement that he wouldn’t support making E-verify mandatory for businesses. Just read what witnesses from the debate said:

    “Undecided, I attended the Saturday AG debate. I will make my decision based on the candidates stands on immigration issues. Candidate Cuccinelli surprised me as he said that he would not require businesses to use E-verify to ensure that job takers are lawfully present and eligible to work. He claimed E-verify has many errors.”
    James G. McDonald
    Virginia Immigration Reform PAC
    Member, US Supreme Court Bar

    “I attended the VFRW Convention this past weekend and watched the Brownlee/Cuccinelli/Foster debate. Mr. Brownlee stated that he supports E-Verify but I was surprised that Mr. Cuccinelli said that he would not impose E-Verify on businesses in Virginia.”
    Peggy Een

    “At the VFRW debate on Saturday, Ken Cuccinelli said that E-verify was so full of errors that he would not require anybody in private business to use it.”
    Dorothy O’Rourke

    “I sat at Saturday’s VFRW debate in total disbelief on what I was hearing from Ken Cuccinelli. He stated that he would not require employers to use e verify because it did not work. Cuccinelli represents the Senate District that I live in so I pay extremely close attention to what he says and how he votes.”
    Anna Lee
    Long-time VFRW Member
    Member of the RPV State Central Committee

    Please don’t ever post another story about immigration. You have lost all credibility on the issue. I guess you will support Cuccinelli even if he starts voting with the Democrats on the Death Penalty. (Oh yea, he does that too!)

  6. DPortM said on 30 Apr 2009 at 3:27 pm:
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    This is insane - who are we to believe? I will not vote for anyone who is soft on illegal immigration.

  7. Anonymous said on 30 Apr 2009 at 3:55 pm:
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    Tom Tancredo has endorsed Brownlee. If he got Tancredo endorsement he must be the best candidate for illegal immigration.

    Myself, I like Brownlee and Cuccinelli. I dont think we as the grass roots should be trashing either one of these candidates.

  8. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 30 Apr 2009 at 5:48 pm:
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    NO AMNESTY (PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP) FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS…EVER! Start flooding our elected officials with emails and calls now!

  9. Anonymous said on 30 Apr 2009 at 6:39 pm:
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    Yeah, what was Reagan thinking when he granted Amnesty to all those people.

  10. F.K. said on 30 Apr 2009 at 6:41 pm:
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    I, too, was at the VFRW convention last weekend and attended the AG debate. Here’s what I took from it. While Brownlee and Cuccinelli were busy bickering with each other, there was a third candidate there who stole the show. Dave Foster is my choice- and I drove to the convention with a Cuccinelli sticker on my car.

    I encourage all state convention delegates to do their research on all 3 candidates and try to meet and talk to all of them if possible. You will be pleasantly surprised by what Dave Foster has to say about the office of the VA AG.

  11. Anonymous said on 30 Apr 2009 at 8:29 pm:
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    Help Save Mannassas is only two years old, but you’ve been lobbying on behalf of STOD for several years!?! Per this blog Save the Old Dominion was formed December of 2007. So, a year and half is several years. This is a crock of stinking doo-doo, and he knows it. Your words apply to you too.

  12. Greg L said on 30 Apr 2009 at 9:08 pm:
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    Man, the level of desperation here is simply unreal. Save The Old Dominion was formed just before the start of the 2007 session of the General Assembly. We lobbied in 2007 and 2008.

    I guess I hit some raw nerves in the Brownlee camp. Good.

  13. NoVA Scout said on 1 May 2009 at 4:57 am:
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    The Cuccinelli/Brownlee struggle appears to be one between an unelectable candidate and a candidate who is striving to become unelectable.

  14. Anonymous said on 1 May 2009 at 7:48 am:
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    Does this surprise anyone, that a politician will say anything to get elected?

  15. Advocator said on 1 May 2009 at 9:22 am:
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    Aren’t debates like this recorded?

  16. Advocator said on 1 May 2009 at 9:23 am:
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    I like this ad at the bottom of the page: “Organize for Brian Moran
    Help us to elect Virginia’s next Democratic Governor.” What’s up wid that, Greg?

  17. Advocator said on 1 May 2009 at 10:04 am:
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    OK. Now there’s a McDonnell ad. That’s better. I thought maybe you had pulled a “Specter” on us, Greg.

    Instead of trashing either candidate and trying to decide whom to vote for by reading remarks on this (or any) blog, I’ve signed up for a couple of “meet and greets” and will talk to the candidates personally. I suggest others do the same. Brownlee’s is next Wednesday and Ken’s is Friday.

  18. DPortM said on 1 May 2009 at 10:23 am:
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    I spoke with a state government official who knows both Brownlee and Cuccinelli. I was told that both men are equally good candidates and that they are virtually the same on the relevant issues facing Virginia.

  19. anon said on 1 May 2009 at 6:08 pm:
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    Cuccinelli sometimes reminds me of Winston Churchill:
    “There are a lot of lies about me going around, but some of them are true.”
    this is the third time that Brownlee has pointed out something from Cuccinelli’s record, and Cuccinelli’s nuts respond with how hard Cuccinelli is on this issue–but the facts speak for themselves despite ALL THE CAPS USED BY CUCCINELLI’S SUPPORTERS.

  20. Brittancus said on 1 May 2009 at 6:53 pm:
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    U.S. Reps. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz states she has a replacement for E-VERIFY? But with all the lies our Politicians tell us, such as no more AMNESTIES, or completing the Border Fence, how can we–THE PEOPLE–tell fact from fiction? Is this so-called replacement just an intentional hold-up while the negotiate secret committee’s to push another path to citizenship, as which the 1986 was a catastrophe and and downright fraud. The parasite businesses that hire illegal workers remain unscathed up to now, but E-Verify would put an end to that large profit run. It’s easy to work off the books, so that they pay nothing towards the upkeep of their illegal labor, while the US taxpayer subsidizes both. So battle stations are being called in the next months and anti-illegal aliens advocates are ready for the fight. E-Verify should be a permanent instrument and not just for new workers to determine illegal labor in the workplace?

    May 1st, is going to show the American taxpayer where their taxes are going? Millions of people ready to demonstrate in the streets, for comprehensive Immigration reform and will probably get it under the Democratic-Socialist majority. If they become de facto legal the consequences will be very expensive for the population, because then we will be adding to the hundreds of billions of dollars already extracted from your paycheck in Federal mandates for benefits. Remember with another Amnesty it will be a commitment for billions of unseen dollars, being appropriated. Once legalized the newcomers can sponsor their whole family group adding to the chaos, and more money to support them. After this 2nd Amnesty the next waves of impoverished will keep coming–and never stopping.

    Those who sponsor immigrants who are relatives sign an affidavit of financial support and must shoulder financial responsibility by law. But it is riddled with loopholes, so new arrivals and their U.S.-born children (anchor Babies–intentional misinterpretation of emancipation for African Slaves after the Civil War) often become lifelong public burdens. A blockbuster example is the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). Economics writer Ed Rubenstein’s new report, “The Earned Income Tax Credit and Illegal Immigration: A Study in Fraud, Abuse, and Liberal Activism,” The author says immigrants collected about $12 billion from the EITC last year, the majority not paying a cent towards it. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation found high school-dropouts-who headed households pay an average of $9,700 a year in taxes but collect an average of $32,138 a year in benefits. All this money in real dollars is procured from unaware taxpayers. Surf NUMBERSUSA for the truth not the propaganda you expect for the open border zealots.

  21. Loudoun Insider said on 1 May 2009 at 7:40 pm:
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    Brownlee is a good conservative with the credentials to win the job in November. Cuccinelli has too many problems, most are simply perception problems, but he won’t be able to fix them. He’s already having trouble raising money as an AG candidate:


  22. Harry said on 1 May 2009 at 8:04 pm:
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    Not so fast here: Cuccinelli OPPOSED e-Verify because the business community and the chamber, and NFIB all opposed e-Verify. BTW, if Cucc is the nominee it virtually assures Shannon will be elected. Cucc is a bad candidate with a ton of baggage and simply will not play

  23. Cynic said on 1 May 2009 at 8:55 pm:
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    A slight change of pace.


    “Jay Severin, the fiery right wing talk show host on Boston’s WTKK-FM radio station, was suspended yesterday after calling Mexican immigrants “criminaliens,” “primitives,” “leeches,” and exporters of “women with mustaches and VD,” among other incendiary comments”

    Isn’t that interesting! Basically he was suspended for stating the truth.

  24. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 1 May 2009 at 9:46 pm:
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    Start calling and emailing Warner and Webb about voting NO on Amnesty (pathway to citizenship) for illegal immigrants! Keep the pressure on folks!

  25. Anonymous said on 3 May 2009 at 12:16 pm:
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    The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 1 May 2009 at 9:46 pm: Flag comment

    Start calling and emailing Warner and Webb about voting NO on Amnesty (pathway to citizenship) for illegal immigrants! Keep the pressure on folks!

    Call Webb and Warner?? Hell, take to the steets just like the “amigos” do then we’ll see some change. The need to be confronted by the masses, not telephone calls!

  26. Anonymous said on 4 May 2009 at 6:38 am:
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    Can we go to 7-Eleven, and hire a few illegals to protest for us, as we are too lazy to do it ourselves?

  27. Brian said on 12 May 2009 at 9:36 pm:
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    This is a tough question. Conservatives, or at least, lovers of liberty, have two conflicting desires here.

    1. We want limited government, less government bureaucracy, and less government intrusion into the lives of individuals and businesses.

    2. We want to protect our country from illegal aliens.

    Any solution to problem #2 that violates principle #1 is unacceptable.

    If you look at the threat from big government versus the threat of illegal aliens, it looks to me like big government is much more dangerous.

    I’m not keen on illegal aliens, but I’m definitely against being forced to pay for using some government database, whether it works or not.

    John Brownlee has been the face of the federal government bureaucracy for the past ten years of his life. He thinks in terms of more government to solve our problems. This is obvious from his answer.

    I can’t say I’m terribly impressed with Cuccinelli’s answer either.

    In my part of Virginia the alien population is less than 2%, much less the illegal alien population.

    Any votes for sticking with the laws we already have on this subject?

  28. Greg L said on 12 May 2009 at 10:00 pm:
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    The commonwealth institute, which is rather friendly to illegal aliens conservatively estimates the Virginia illegal alien population at 300,000. The U.S. Census estimates the total VA population at 7,769,089, yielding an illegal alien population at 3.86%. You’re underestimating by at least half.

    The current Virginia unemployment rate is 6.8%, so it we replaced illegal aliens illegally holding jobs with unemployed Virginians, we’d likely cut our unemployment rate in half. For those legal Virginians that would benefit, the results would be tremendous. For those of us living in the midst of illegal aliens and suffering the negative impacts they impose, it would be no less beneficial.

  29. Brian said on 13 May 2009 at 5:41 pm:
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    I stand corrected on the stats. But you’re wrong on the unemployment.

    The vast majority of unemployed Virginians refuse to do the jobs that illegal aliens do. Those jobs generally involve sweat and dirt.

    How many native Virginians do you see waiting at 7-11 for day jobs?


    Big government has eliminated far more jobs than 300,000 illegals have taken. Forcing E-verify on Virginia’s businesses will eliminate even more jobs because it will raise the cost of employment even more.

    Illegals are bad. Creating government bureaucracies is worse.

    How about shutting the door to LEGAL immigration? Most of the illegals come to stay with naturalized relatives.

  30. Greg L said on 13 May 2009 at 6:54 pm:
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    Do you even know anything about E-Verify? What makes you say it would raise costs?

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