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Chief Deane Helps Raise Funds For Anarchist Radicals

By Greg L | 25 May 2009 | Zapatistas, Prince William County | 69 Comments

Of course since the illegal alien apologists did something, somewhere, it’s got to get headline coverage in the Manassas News & Messenger, the paper that recently advocated that we consider relocating terrorists from Camp Delta at Guantanamo Bay to Northern Virginia.  While that shameless promotion can be somewhat annoying, it is nonetheless informative, although in a way the News & Messenger certainly didn’t intend.

The story is all about the wild accolades given by the liberal crowd in Arlington for the “9500 Liberty” sham which seeks to capitalize on the drama created when Mexicans Without Borders spread wildly inaccurate stories among the Hispanic community that the Rule of Law Resolution was going to inevitably result in having the local police break down doors in the middle of the night and haul illegal aliens off to be deported.  Tearful children whose parents were illegal showed up begging the Board of Supervisors not to deport their parents, as if the Board of Supervisors had any say in what federal law dictates, all to the delight of the liberal crowd that had their opportunity for their usual and wildly laughable claims of moral superiority.  The piece lionizes our local chief law enforcement officer, who they are pleased with for trying to block at every turn the policies of the very elected officials who he indirectly reports to, and of course Woodbridge Supervisor Frank Principi.  Unsurprisingly, Chief Deane and Supervisor Principi were in attendance at this screening to bask in the glow of their liberal illegal alien apologist supporters.

The screening of this film, named after the Mexica Movement adherent and civic vandal Gaudencio Fernandez, was a fundraiser for the “Legal Aid Justice Center” in Charlottesville, and so far no one has raised any questions about the propriety of having Deane and Principi attend.  While this organization claims as their mission legal support for the poor and “immigrants” by helping to file lawsuits against those who unlawfully employ illegal aliens for not treating them nicely enough, it doesn’t seem as if Principi or Deane ever bothered to find out anything about this organization.  Perhaps they did, and just didn’t care.

“We’re trying to elevate the issue of day labor in Northern Virginia, with the goal of increasing public awareness of the workers’ struggles and also trying to get local governments to come up with community solutions to the challenges and opportunities of day laborers gathering in their areas.”  — Tim Frelich, Legal Aid Justice Center

National Public Radio interviewed a representative from the “Legal Aid Justice Center” by the name of Arnoldo Borja, who also goes by the name of Arnoldo Borjas.  I’ve seen him a bunch of times, and on one occasion he seemed to take delight in chanting “Conquest” (as opposed to “Reconquista” or “Re-Conquest”) in front of the McCoart Building following a meeting of the Board of Supervisors in 2007.  He’s also the hand-picked delegate from Mexicans Without Borders to the Zapatista Army of National Liberation, and on the Mexicans Without Borders website they proudly displayed this picture of him until the political backlash of doing so made it into their thick, anarchist, communist skulls:

Arnoldo is the guy behind the podium, according to the caption that had appeared on the Mexicans Without Borders website. He’s also on record for telling the EZLN that one of their main goals should be recruiting adherents outside of Mexico, something that one of the original founders of Mexicans Without Borders likened to establishing a “reserve army” in the United States that would reinforce the EZLN in case of renewed hostilities with the civil government in Mexico.  This is just one of the beneficiaries of Chief Deane’s publicity tour.

Now I can understand to some degree Frank Principi, an elected official who carries water for Mexicans Without Borders and without a doubt is fully aware of who they are and what they stand for attending this event.  Maybe he just doesn’t want to get re-elected.  What really is unusual is Chief Charlie Deane supporting with at least his presence a fundraiser for an organization staffed by radical anarchists who have in the past engaged in armed insurrection against civil authorities in an attempt to foster a Marxist revolution.  It’s not like this was some effort to engage the local community and inform them about the county’s police policies, where his presence might be considered legitimate public business.  No, this was an event to ensure that extremist radicals like Arnoldo Borjas can get paid.  Chief Deane apparently thinks working to that end is a valuable use of his time.

Recent Handiwork from our Anarchist/Communist friends…

I would imagine that the taxpayers, who expect the highest level of professional conduct from their top law enforcement officer in the county, might not agree that this was a wise choice for the Chief.  At some point they’re going to start getting tired of this behavior, and it can’t be soon enough.



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69 Comments

  1. Good Time Charlie said on 25 May 2009 at 5:44 am:
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    If you want law and order instead of policing through perception you need to live somewhere other than Prince William County. As long as Charlie Deane has his ass parked on the king’s throne at McCoart nothing will change. It is obvious he reports to nobody.

  2. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 25 May 2009 at 6:08 am:
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    Where is OUR Sheriff Joe??? Sheriff Joe gets it done! Period! Deane has NO EXCUSE FOR NOT DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN TO PROTECT LEGAL CITIZENS! Illegal aliens and their legal supporters need to be prosecuted!

  3. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 25 May 2009 at 6:16 am:
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    http://www.10news.com/news/19543234/detail.html
    “SAN DIEGO — An immigration sweep that resulted in the arrests of dozens of illegal immigrants took place in the most unexpected of places, and immigration rights activists are unhappy with the operation, 10News reported.”

    They are “unhappy” because….wait for it people….IT WORKED SUCCESSFULLY!

    Of course the latino lobby says it was “profiling” as usual. However….here was the logical response to that claim”

    “A Border Patrol spokesman denied the use of racial profiling. He said behavior detection officers helped identify suspected illegal immigrants on board the trolley.”

    That is a GREAT response….why? because that is what “criminal profiling” is all about and how it is done. Criminals behave in certain ways and that is what is profiled.

    Chief Deane…seems like your counterparts all over the country know how to get things done properly….what is the problem?

  4. Fran Kendrick said on 25 May 2009 at 8:26 am:
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    Patriot, wouldn’t it be great to have a Sheriff Joe here in our county
    instead of the namby pamby Charlie Dean puppet we have over there
    on Lee Ave, sleepin’ in de noon day sun?

  5. chameleon said on 25 May 2009 at 9:49 am:
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    havent heard much from senor fernandez…did he get deported? what about ricky ricardo from MWB??? He’s been under the radar as well as nancy? Are they planning a coup or something in a 3rd world country? time will tell I’m sure…

  6. Anonymous said on 25 May 2009 at 1:31 pm:
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    “Where is OUR Sheriff Joe??? ”

    Patriot, our sheriff couldn’t care any less about the people are our community, all he wants is a title and a paycheck.

    And King Deane doesn’t answer to anyone. The supervisors are all afraid of him, so he does what he wants.

  7. Anonymous said on 25 May 2009 at 2:08 pm:
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    Why hasn’t the PWC BOS simply fired Deane?

  8. Fran Kendrick said on 25 May 2009 at 3:55 pm:
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    Anonymous, you’ve answered your own question. The BOS….they are
    all afraid of him. This is what happens when one is given too much power,
    i.e., Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et.al.

  9. es_la_ley said on 25 May 2009 at 4:35 pm:
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    No lawyer here… but I believe a duly elected sheriff is the highest law enforcement official in the county, constitutionally, with powers far exceeding the police chief, state or even the FEDs.

    Just offering this for feed. :-)

  10. Truth to Power said on 25 May 2009 at 5:25 pm:
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    Question: is Deane elected or does he serve at the pleasure of the BOS? If he is elected then the citizens have the opportunity to hold him accountable (every day) for his actions/inactions.

    If he is an elected official, who is his competitor? That is the person that should be standing up and say how he/she would do a better job.

  11. TedKennedysSwimInstructor said on 25 May 2009 at 5:53 pm:
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    Re: Why hasn’t the PWC BOS simply fired Deane?

    Because he has his head so far up Hilda Barg’s fat ass they fear if they fire Deane she’ll show up to more citizens’ time requesting tax credits for Democrat senior citizens with hemorrhoids.

  12. Anonymous said on 25 May 2009 at 6:28 pm:
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    es_la_ley, you have a very good point, the sheriff, has a duty to see that the laws are enforced and the needs of the people are met. However, our sheriff just doesn’t give a damn.

  13. Good Time Charlie said on 25 May 2009 at 7:00 pm:
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    The Sheriff’s Office is aligned with Charlie Deane. With several of Deane’s police supervisors transferring to the Sheriff’s Office to become staff personnel immediately after the election of Glen Hill there will be no difference of policy or enforcement measures coming from the current Sheriff. With the help given by Deane to help Hill become elected (overthrowing Stoffregen who wouldn’t be told not to enforce observed violations & conduct radar details)……any changes in policy from Glen Hill are probably run past Deane for approval. So I wouldn’t be looking for any additional help from deputies. King Deane would never allow it. It would detract from his base of power…..and isn’t that why he still comes to work everyday after 50 years (even if he needs a paid county driver to do it).

    I wonder if Charlie Deane used the assistance of a county employee or a county owned vehicle to attend this film screening in Arlington. It would seem to be in conflict with using county property to attend an event with little to do in relation to ACTUAL county business. This seems to be a personal appearance to collect recognition and accolades as a champion of the hispanic community. If only he cared this much about the hispanic victim who was brutally murdered behind the 7-11 next to Fred Lynn Middle school in Woodbridge.

  14. JUST SAY NO said on 26 May 2009 at 6:41 pm:
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    If only he cared about the rest of Prince William County. Why does one group get preferential treatment by Deane? I thought he wasn’t supposed to discriminate. Seems to me he doesn’t like white middle class people very much.

  15. NoVA Scout said on 26 May 2009 at 9:31 pm:
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    es la ley: I think the Sheriff’s powers are limited to such things as courtroom security, prisoner transfers and custody, and serving writs. That’s what the Sheriff does. The Police Department is your law enforcement arm. Both the Sheriff and police have important functions, but one doesn’t overlap the other.

  16. Greg L said on 26 May 2009 at 10:11 pm:
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    Actually, the Sheriff has unrestricted police powers in the county, but has decided as a matter of policy to restrict the activities of the Department to those functions. Deputies are fully accredited law enforcement officers, and are lawfully authorized to investigate any breach of state or local law.

    Notwithstanding those broad powers, there is a valid argument to dividing responsibility between the Sheriff’s Department and the Prince William County Police Department. We may want to revisit that delineation of responsibilities at some point, but it makes a lot of sense for there to be some arrangement between these two agencies about what each will do.

    Other than that, we might want to revisit the idea of having two law enforcement agencies in the county. One way to potentially solve the issue is to have the Sheriff’s Department consume the PWC Police Department and have only one law enforcement agency in the county. Loudoun seems to do just fine with this.

  17. Anonymous said on 26 May 2009 at 11:11 pm:
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    I believe the best and cheapest (less taxpayer dollars) is to just have a Sheriff’s Office and just keep adding deputies as the county grows. However, since Prince William County already has spent millions of dollars to start a county police to handle the day to day calls for service, they should keep that function and the Sheriff should assist in areas he sees that may need extra attention. He and his deputies should never turn their heads and look the other way when they see a violation of the law like they do now. And the chief should not whine when the sheriff gets involved in help keeping the county safe.

  18. Anonymous said on 27 May 2009 at 7:23 am:
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    Anonymous said on 26 May 2009 at 11:11 pm: Flag comment

    I believe the best and cheapest (less taxpayer dollars) is to just have a Sheriff’s Office and just keep adding deputies as the county grows. However, since Prince William County already has spent millions of dollars to start a county police to handle the day to day calls for service, they should keep that function and the Sheriff should assist in areas he sees that may need extra attention.

    It used to be that way but the “Chief” raised so much hell that the Sheriff’s department was intruding into “his” territory it became a big political football and we are left with what we have today.

  19. Bye Bye Charlie said on 27 May 2009 at 7:55 am:
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    Anonymous above: you hit it right on the head! Deane was afraid that the Sheriff’s Dept. might actually help out the officers who are 3-4 deep in calls. But hey, it must be because Prince William is such as safe place and there aren’t any crimes to respond to so why would they need the help.

    Hey people let’s do something important here and keep this blog on the front burner instead of losing momentum.

    Deane gets away with so much because when things like this come to light they seem to get side tracked and pushed aside.

    How about we figure out a way to make it matter and send him to Shady Acres Home for the Aged where he belongs!!!

  20. Just the Facts said on 27 May 2009 at 8:07 am:
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    We have no need for two law enforcement agencies in Prince William County. A county should have only a sheriff’s department with an elected sheriff and full law enforcement power. Such an arrangement would be cost effective for tax payers and avoid duplicative infrastructure, and make law enforcement more responsive to voters. We don’t need a police department or chief of police. Charlie Deane and anyone else who wants to be the chief law enforcement officer in the county should face the voters every four years in an election for sheriff.

  21. Good Time Charlie said on 27 May 2009 at 8:25 am:
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    A chief law enforcement officer who answers to those he serves and protects. That would create the need for leadership that believes fighting crime and enforcing state laws and county codes is beneficial to remaining employed. What a nice change that would be in PWC.

  22. Chauncey Gardiner said on 27 May 2009 at 9:07 am:
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    The ranking elected chief law enforcement officer in the County is actually the Commonwealth attorney.

  23. Anonymous said on 27 May 2009 at 10:14 am:
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    If we have a Commonwealth Attorney and a Sheriff were set, and a chief is just a waste of money. We don’t need all three.

  24. Good Time Charlie said on 27 May 2009 at 4:07 pm:
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    Make no mistake…….we need a Chief of Police……..but not the one we have now.

  25. es_la_ley said on 27 May 2009 at 5:12 pm:
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    NoVA Scout said on 26 May 2009 at 9:31 pm:

    es la ley: I think the Sheriff’s powers are limited to such things as courtroom security, prisoner transfers and custody, and serving writs. That’s what the Sheriff does. The Police Department is your law enforcement arm. Both the Sheriff and police have important functions, but one doesn’t overlap the other.

    Yes, but I believe that’s by agreement between the PWC police and the Sheriffs Dept or, as Greg said, by ‘policy’. The position of sheriff is established by the Virginia Constitution and by law can enforce all the laws of the Commonwealth. Not that he *does*, but he *can*.

    That’s my understanding anyway. Fascinating topic though!

  26. Good Time Charlie said on 27 May 2009 at 6:16 pm:
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    The Sheriff’s Office has appointed powers to enforce all state criminal codes. A memorandum of understanding (MOU) between the County Police (Chief of Police)& Sheriff’s Office (Elected Sheriff) is in place by agreement of both to define the duties of each department. Under Stoffregen, many people were under the impression he was attempting to unseat the police department as the main law enforcement agency. This was mostly due to Charlie Deane whining to the County Executive that Stoffregen wasn’t abiding to the MOU by having his deputies get involved in citing drivers committing observed violations. A new MOU was redrawn after the expiration date on the old memorandum elapsed. So in effect……your C.O.P. didn’t want additional traffic enforcement.

    Under the new MOU Stoffregen demanded the ability to enforce observed violations the Virginia State Constitution gave him the authority to do. After this occurred Deane began to rally citizens against additional traffic enforcement by labeling this a “duplication of effort.” The disagreement in the MOU which outlined an expanded use of resources in the Sheriff’s Office was the reason Charlie Deane convinced Glen Hill to run for Sheriff. Was it in the best interests of public safety for Deane to overthrow Stoffregen? I can assure you the motivation for the Chief of Police was to “protect his turf”, and retaining control of the kingdom.

  27. Former Officer said on 28 May 2009 at 6:51 am:
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    “Good Time Charlie said on 27 May 2009 at 4:07 pm: Flag comment

    Make no mistake…….we need a Chief of Police……..but not the one we have now.”

    Make no mistake. You’ve absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Chief Deane is one of the most respected chiefs anywhere in or near the Metropolitan area. The likes of you on here only wish you were half the man he is. He cares for not only his troops but also for the people of PWC whether you want to believe it or not. You won’t find a more fair minded man then Chief Deane.

  28. Former Officer said on 28 May 2009 at 6:54 am:
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    Good ole Good Time Charlie. Another Stroffegen supporter. Hasn’t this issue been hacked enough? Lee caused his own problems. The longer he was in office the worse things got. You little story above is written to make Lee sound like he was the greatest thing since sliced bread but fortuantely the voters saw differently. He is gone. Not jump off your high horse and pick another drum to beat. Yours gets old fast.

  29. Good Time Charlie said on 28 May 2009 at 7:31 am:
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    Former Officer:
    I’ve never declared myself a Stoffregen supporter. My opinion of him……..good for enforcement of law; bad for political exercise & judgement. I’m not a Glen Hill hater either. There are several things I like about him and his department. But why don’t you put up an argument to convince me that Charlie Deane doesn’t currently have influence over policy exercised in the Sheriff’s Office that gives him power in a department he shouldn’t have influence.

    It is a waste of resources to have civil process deputies with arrest authority who are in our community observing violations committed in front of them without the ability to enforce the law.

    You consider Charlie Deane fair minded? I guess you consider it fair minded for a C.O.P. to repeatedly block disability claims of a police officer injured in the line of duty (struck by a vehicle while trying to arrest a serious felon). This occurring after doctors declared him to suffer permenant injuries making it impossible to return to duty status. If you really want to challenge me I’ve got other examples to cite here. Maybe you want to discuss his orders to downgrade member evaluations in an effort to save money. Yeah……he is a real cops cop.

    F.Y.I. - I don’t ride horses or play the drums. As long as the Constitution guarantees 1st amendment rights I’ll continue to exercise them here. If you don’t like what you see don’t read the blogs.

  30. Bye Bye Charlie said on 28 May 2009 at 7:39 am:
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    Former Officer said: “Make no mistake. You’ve absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Chief Deane is one of the most respected chiefs anywhere in or near the Metropolitan area.”

    Is there some kind of published poll ranking Police Chiefs somewhere? How about attaching the link to quash the naysayers.

  31. Bye Bye Charlie said on 28 May 2009 at 7:50 am:
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    Oh and by the way:

    Here’s a public record to back the naysayers:

    I remeber Deane being the focus of a lawsuit involving an officer. She successfully sued the Dept. for the Chief conducting acts of retribution against her. See link below

    http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/981514.U.pdf

    “He cares for not only his troops …” REALLY?

  32. Anonymous said on 28 May 2009 at 8:27 am:
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    Former Officer said on 28 May 2009 at 6:51 am: Flag comment

    He cares for not only his troops but also for the people of PWC whether you want to believe it or not.

    Yep, especially when a police officer who was sent to my street to check on speeding violators told me he could not write a citation without his supervisor’s approval. The officer observed speeders but said his hands were tied “as it was perceived that too many traffic citations were being written” and unless he got his supervisors permission, he could not write a citation. Be this true or not, that was what I was told by this PWC police officer.

  33. Anonymous said on 28 May 2009 at 10:46 am:
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    Former Officer, if you don’t know that Cheif Deane whined like a two year old who just got his sucker taken away after the new MOU went into effect you must not live in the county.

  34. Anonymous said on 28 May 2009 at 11:06 am:
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    es_la_ley, The law says the sheriff “shall” enforce the law. But he “can” give that duty to another law enforcement agency in the county.

    § 15.2-1609. Sheriff.
    The voters in every county and city shall elect a sheriff unless otherwise provided by general law or special act. The sheriff shall exercise all the powers conferred and perform all the duties imposed upon sheriffs by general law. He shall enforce the law or see that it is enforced in the locality from which he is elected; assist in the judicial process as provided by general law; and be charged with the custody, feeding and care of all prisoners confined in the county or city jail. He may perform such other duties, not inconsistent with his office, as may be requested of him by the governing body. The sheriff shall be elected as provided by general law for a term of four years.

  35. Fran Kendrick said on 28 May 2009 at 5:15 pm:
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    Former officer, why not just accept the fact that we have a do-nothing
    sheriff who would much rather spend his time and energy on the golf
    course or sleeping late in his upscale mansion (his neighbors detest him
    being part of the community). As long as he is willing to bow to Charlie
    and follow his orders, nothing is going to change.

  36. Former Officer said on 28 May 2009 at 7:37 pm:
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    It is a waste of resources to have civil process deputies with arrest authority who are in our community observing violations committed in front of them without the ability to enforce the law.

    *****Not sure where you get your information from but the deputies most certainly can and DO enforce laws while they are on the street. It’s not their primary jobs but they do not turn their backs unless they so choose.

    You consider Charlie Deane fair minded? I guess you consider it fair minded for a C.O.P. to repeatedly block disability claims of a police officer injured in the line of duty (struck by a vehicle while trying to arrest a serious felon).

    *******Deane is not the that approves this. it’s above his head.

    This occurring after doctors declared him to suffer permenant injuries making it impossible to return to duty status. If you really want to challenge me I’ve got other examples to cite here. Maybe you want to discuss his orders to downgrade member evaluations in an effort to save money. Yeah……he is a real cops cop.

    ****Again. Done above his head. No one on the dept likes this change and there’s something going on to do away or at least change what was done.

  37. Grayson said on 28 May 2009 at 7:53 pm:
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    Former Officer said on 28 May 2009 at 7:37 pm: Flag comment

    It is a waste of resources to have civil process deputies with arrest authority who are in our community observing violations committed in front of them without the ability to enforce the law.

    *****Not sure where you get your information from but the deputies most certainly can and DO enforce laws while they are on the street. It’s not their primary jobs but they do not turn their backs unless they so choose.

    That must be Charlie Deane’s law of you see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil they are enforcing on each other.

  38. Bye Bye Charlie said on 29 May 2009 at 6:16 am:
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    It is sad that “Former Officer” blindly speaks of King Deane, but then again that is the type of officer Deane prefers: bobble heads.

    When did downgrading police evals. start being above the Chief of Police’s head? If the Chief isn’t in charge of the final decisions of the Dept. he runs, then the county has much bigger problems than we all thought.

    The disabled officer: you are right it did go above his head but HE jumped into the decision and FOUGHT it. It’s a fact, I know it from the involved parties.

    Are we going to give the law suit a pass and not address it?

    Still waiting on the “best Chief” in the Metro. Region stats.

    You have no idea how fortunate you are to be a Former Officer. Not sure if you retired or left for greener pastures but either way it’s a good choice.

  39. Former Officer said on 29 May 2009 at 6:31 am:
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    There are some intelligent people on this site and then there are a few of you that have no business touching a keyboard and posting on the net. You’re willing to post any information no matter how inaccurate it is. Unfortunately too many people will believe the inaccurate information and continue to pass it on. Pretty pathetic.

  40. Bye Bye Charlie said on 29 May 2009 at 6:45 am:
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    Is that the best you can come up with? Spell out facts to prove your point.

  41. Anonymous said on 29 May 2009 at 9:49 am:
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    Bye Bye Charlie, he knows he is the only one putting out inaccurate information.

  42. Henry said on 29 May 2009 at 2:22 pm:
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    Here’s some facts;

    The county office of Risk Management approves or denies worker comp claims, not department heads.

    The Sheriff has less than10% of the staff the police department has, so logically doing what your are mandated to do first makes good sence.

    It was a deputy Sheriff who arrested the bad man who tried to run the officer down last month.

    And my last fact, if you tell a lie often enough, people will believe it is the truth

    - Stalin, circa 1940

  43. Grayson said on 29 May 2009 at 3:45 pm:
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    ” It was a deputy Sheriff who arrested the bad man who tried to run the officer down last month. ”

    Did the suspect run into the side of the deputy’s cruiser as the deputy was trying to avoid him?

  44. Former Officer said on 29 May 2009 at 4:33 pm:
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    Fact: Deputies make arrests and write tickets. (nothing compared to when crooked Lee S. was in office but no one wants that anyway.)

    Fact: I told you Chief Deane has no say in the disability issue. This is done, as Henry said, by someone else.

    Fact: Chief Deane has the overwhelmingly support of the members of the PD as well as the police association.

    We could keep doing this all day long but I imagine some of you will continue spewing your lies and half truths.

  45. Bye Bye Charlie said on 29 May 2009 at 4:51 pm:
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    Henry: Not sure where you are going with the Risk Management but here is the deal. The officer was run down by a criminal at work. He now has had numerous back surgeries and is perm. disabled. He can’t lift his own kids. Deane did step in AFTER Risk Management deemed that the officer was entitled to a set amount of disability. DEANE fought the amount. Actually got involved in something that had nothing to do with him or the Dept. bottom line. He argued that the officer couldn’t be disabled because after the officer left the Dept. he was able to get a desk job. Deane decided a desk job meant that the guy didn’t deserve disability. Nice: one of your officers puts his life on the line, gets mowed down while chasing a criminal, and you decide that you don’t like what Risk Management and the State decide what is fair and just and get involved. The officer spent more than 2 years having to fight and argue to get what is rightfully his. No I am not him or anyone related to him.

    Want to continue to say Deane is a cop’s cop: what about the officer that was literally in a kill or be killed situation with illegals a few years back? Oh yeah, he was told BY DEANE to leave or be sent packing. He was not the type of officer the Dept. needed. Where did the officer go? Back in the military to serve his country with honor.

    I again revert back to Deane and the Dept. being sued for acts of retribution on on officer. The officer won. Link is above if you don’t believe me read it yourself.

    I am so tired of the “King Deane is great” nonsense . I would be more than happy to continue this arguement again and again. Each time I will spell out a different instance of another story. Am I a former cop or related to one? NO. I am someone that has been lucky enough to know a lot of the rank and file over the years, see and hear the real inside story and see what these officers have been through. I respect them.

    Deane is another story , he cares about no one but himself. He would and has screwed over plenty of people that just haven’t seen things his way.

    Until one of you can give me examples of things Deane has done to earn his crown you will continue to appear to all on her as one of Deane’s lackies.

  46. Bye Bye Charlie said on 29 May 2009 at 5:03 pm:
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    You mean the police association where the President is usually one of the Watch Commanders or above in the Dept. It’s the PWC Police Assoc., of course they are going to back their boss, to do otherwise deemed unpopular back in the day and I am sure it still applies today.

    FACT: Deane has the overwhelming support of the dept. because any one who would openly speak out again their Chief is 1. stupid 2. proved to be a death sentence in the past.

    Since Deane is your man and you are taking the time to spend on this blog please share something we can discuss to dispell this.

    Here are som topics for you:

    -What is the retention rate of the officers?
    -How many that start the academy leave not because of failure but choice
    -Why is PWC the only jurisdiction in the area that has to pay officers bonuses to stay on?
    -Why is PWC the only jurisdiction that seems to constantly advertise and attend every job fair in the surround area? Is it because the contty continues to increase their budget to add officers or because they can’t keep enough around to fill the streets properly?

    -Does a Sheriff’s dept. that writes a lot of tickets make them crooked or did they write them because they actually were about to find probably cause to write them?
    -If the Dupties write less tickets under Hill does that mean there are less offenses out there being committed or that they are told not to write them and let the offense go unnoticed and hope a county cop seems them.

  47. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 29 May 2009 at 8:31 pm:
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    Fact: Chief Deane does nothing about illegal immigrants in our community.

  48. Grayson said on 29 May 2009 at 9:00 pm:
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    Give us some facts! …The Sheriff’s Office makes 3 warrantless arrest on the street in a year. The Sheriff’s Office writes 5 traffic summons in a year. Are these numbers pretty close? If not, what are the numbers?

  49. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 30 May 2009 at 7:01 am:
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    FACT: Sheriff Joe Arpaio gets the job done, Chief Deane does not.
    FACT: Chief Deane needs instruction from Sheriff Joe on how to get the job done correctly and legally without worrying about what aiding and abetting protestors say.

  50. Anonymous said on 30 May 2009 at 8:03 am:
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    The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 30 May 2009 at 7:01 am: Flag comment

    FACT: Sheriff Joe Arpaio gets the job done, Chief Deane does not.
    FACT: Chief Deane needs instruction from Sheriff Joe on how to get the job done correctly and legally without worrying about what aiding and abetting protestors say.

    That will only happen if the Chief is sincere about getting the job done (it doesn’t appear to be so, thus far.)

  51. Anonymous said on 30 May 2009 at 8:10 am:
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    Former Officer said on 29 May 2009 at 4:33 pm: Flag comment

    Fact: Deputies make arrests and write tickets. (nothing compared to when crooked Lee S. was in office but no one wants that anyway.)

    No one wants that anway? Give us a break! If there is probable cause to make an arrest or write a traffic citation for a violation I would hope that be it a county police officer or a sheriff’s deputy that the law would be enforced by the officer who saw the viloation or crime being comitted. It’s just like immigration enforcement. “It a Federal” problem so since I am a State or County law enforcement official, I will ignore it if I come across an illegal alien.” Crime is crime. Bank robbery is a Federal crime. Do the local police agencies ignore that crime? Why should they ignore arresting someone who has entered this country illegally and don’t know what his/her intentions are?

  52. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 30 May 2009 at 8:19 am:
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    Who does Chief Deane answer to? Whomever it is…needs to be lectured on this matter.

  53. Anonymous said on 30 May 2009 at 11:29 am:
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    The Patriot, Charlie T. Deane “should” answer to County Executive Craig Gerhart and the Board of County Supervisors but they are afraid of him so he answers to no one.

    Grayson, your numbers are way too high.

  54. Henry said on 1 Jun 2009 at 7:47 am:
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    TO: Bye Bye..

    For someone who boosts of such intimate knowledge as to the inter-workings of Prince William County, you should already know the answers…

    1-What is the retention rate of the officers?

    Poor I suspect - like most area departments

    2-How many that start the academy leave not because of failure but choice

    Few I suspect - if they finish the academy, their resume is complete for one of those nice federal jobs

    3-Why is PWC the only jurisdiction in the area that has to pay officers bonuses to stay on?

    There are not. A report from COG published last year indicated that the bonus trend was the next new tging in the region to retain people. AS a matter of fact, the Fire.Rescue department also pays bounus.

    4-Why is PWC the only jurisdiction that seems to constantly advertise and attend every job fair in the surround area? Is it because the contty continues to increase their budget to add officers or because they can’t keep enough around to fill the streets properly?

    Both. And everyother jurisdiction attends the same job fairs.

    5-Does a Sheriff’s dept. that writes a lot of tickets make them crooked or did they write them because they actually were about to find probably cause to write them?

    If it were their primary job, they would probably write more. I suggest you test your theory by speeding past the next deputy car you see several times just to prove your point.

    6-If the Dupties write less tickets under Hill does that mean there are less offenses out there being committed or that they are told not to write them and let the offense go unnoticed and hope a county cop seems them

    Don’t really know what they are told to do, and I doubt you do either,but I would suspect they have enough sheriff work to keep them busy.

    TO: Grayson

    See answer to # 5….

  55. Anonymous said on 1 Jun 2009 at 10:40 am:
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    Henry, since you don’t have the answers to Bye Bye Charlie’s or Grayson’s questions maybe you can answer why the sheriff increased his staff by 15 full time employees and increased the budget by 2.7 million dollars but cut services to the community?

  56. Henry said on 1 Jun 2009 at 11:00 am:
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    I did answer the questions, and looking at the PWC annual budget, the Sheriff appears to have lost two positions, and cut the budget. Where the hell are you getting your figures ?

  57. Anonymous said on 1 Jun 2009 at 11:40 am:
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    Your answers do not answer the question that was asked.

    Prince William County budget office 2004 - 2010 sheriff’s office budgets. Sheriff Hill has not lost any positions since he was elected only gained positions and he has never cut the budget. It’s just not as fat as what he requested. Where the hell are you getting your figures?

  58. Bye Bye Charlie said on 1 Jun 2009 at 7:00 pm:
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    It’s OK Anonymous, it’s exactly the answer I expected from someone who thinks Deane is doing his job. I notice Former Officer didn’t chime in. He knows the answers and knows where I was going with the questions so he left well enough alone.

    Henry, answering questions with guesses defeated the entire discussion above, your answers aren’t facts they are lame reasoning.

    I could probably drive past the Sheriff himself all day long since the road deputies handed in their ticket books when Deane became the silent Sheriff in 2003.

    I also noitced that Deane’s loyal following still hasn’t addressed his treatment of previously mentioned officers or the law suit he lost against one of his own.

    Just admit it, it’s time for him to head to Shady Acres Home for the Aged. Heck, he’s half way there already,you would think that since he has moved retirement community the next logical step is to spend his days tending to his vegetable garden. Also ironic that the Police Chief doesn’t feel comfortable living outside his gated, 24/7 guarded community yet he continues to tell us how safe he has made PWC.

  59. Anonymous said on 2 Jun 2009 at 9:47 am:
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    Have a family member in college who applied to PWC police department to spend time as an intern. Has been many, many months since the application was made and NOT a single word or acknowledgement from them. Guess they no longer are looking for “a few good men.” Their loss!

  60. Bye Bye Charlie said on 2 Jun 2009 at 8:28 pm:
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    Sorry to hear it but they are better off interning somewhere else anyway. Deane won’t allow them to do real police work anyway. If the family member if female and attractive she could have seen all of the interworkings of the Cheif’s office………

  61. Anonymous said on 3 Jun 2009 at 10:48 am:
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    Did you see who’s pictures are on the front page of the Manassas Journal today?
    Great photo op! Glad they all had time to get out of their rocking chairs.

  62. Bye Bye Charlie said on 3 Jun 2009 at 2:21 pm:
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    HA HA HA HA HA HA! Deane probably needs a “Depends” change after the news of his boss resigning.

  63. Henry said on 3 Jun 2009 at 2:54 pm:
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    To Bye Bye -

    I would rather guess than make it up

    Actual fugures published by the county - on their web site

    YR 08 09 10

    Sheriff FTEs 87 89 89
    Sheriff budget 6.9 7.1 7.1 (million - 45% from state money)

    Police FTEs 701 725 753
    Police budget 73.5 73.1 74.3 million in county money

    so all that crap you spew is clearly wrong. The only thing growing over there is the PD, so chew on that a while skippy

  64. Bye Bye Charlie said on 3 Jun 2009 at 3:22 pm:
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    Henry: I didn’t ask for budgets, I asked for facts about Deane being a wonderful leader, figurehead,citizen of the century,blah,blah that former officer said he was. I pointed out that if Deane was all about his officer than why was he sued by one of them for retribution, and other examples. I asked for facts to dispute those items and show facts and instances where Deane was on the side of his officer or did right by the officer.

    Then it turned to talking about the Sheriff’s office and their ticket writing.

    Thanks for the stats but they STILL don’t answer my questions or refute my facts about Deane.

    SO go back and try again skippy.

  65. Anonymous said on 3 Jun 2009 at 6:47 pm:
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    Henry, you cannot believe everthing you read on the internet. You need to go to the Prince William County budget office and get the budgets for the sheriff’s office 2004 - 2010 (When Glendell took office to this years budget) you will see when Glendell took office, the sheriff’s office had 74 full time employees and a budget of 5.3 million. In 2010 budget the sheriff’s office has beefed up to 89 full time employees and a budget fatten to of over 8 million. We all know Glendell cut services to the community to reduce his workload but did he have to increase his staff by 15 employees and increase the budget by 2.7 million to accompolish this?

    By the way, state money is still our tax dollars.

  66. Good Time Charlie said on 5 Jun 2009 at 4:56 pm:
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    If your Chief of Police leaves you with the impression he answers to nobody…….can you imagine how bad things are for sworn personnel in his department? Loyalty is a one way street in his administration. His past handling of departmental matters involving the professional/personal lives of his officers is a perfect exemple of why police unions in other parts of the country are a necessary entity.

  67. Former Officer said on 7 Jun 2009 at 12:10 pm:
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    “”"”"”"Bye Bye Charlie said on 29 May 2009 at 5:03 pm: Flag comment

    You mean the police association where the President is usually one of the Watch Commanders or above in the Dept. It’s the PWC Police Assoc., of course they are going to back their boss, to do otherwise deemed unpopular back in the day and I am sure it still applies today.”"”"”"”"”

    Holy crap. Are you really so ignorant that you’ll continue to spew lies. Yes, lies. The president of the police association for PWC has NEVER been a watch commander. A few have gone on to become watch commanders but none were while serving as president. The current president is a detective and has been president for some time now. This is so typical of you and your cronies posts that you’re will to post lies such as this hoping people will believe it.

  68. Bye Bye Charlie said on 12 Jun 2009 at 6:05 am:
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    You are still avoiding the entire point. Deane is endorsed by an organization that works for him. For you to pretend that the president of the association would do anything but is laughable.

    You also have yet to give us anything tangible that Deane has done for the good of his officers or the county. You continue to say we spit lies but you have nothing to dispute the facts.

    Is the lawsuit a lie? Did the courts fabricate it to satisfy those who don’t think Deane is king?

    Is the officer that was told to leave after he was trying to save his own life from an illegal a lie?

    Is the officer on disability a lie?

    Want me to keeo going? IF you are a former PWC officer you know exactly who these people I refer to are and you their situations are true.

    If you think King Deane is so wonderful why aren’t you with him anymore?

    Start answering with some facts and specific examples or go back up Charlies a**

  69. Good Time Charlie said on 12 Jun 2009 at 9:16 am:
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    Charlie Deane has developed a track record/game plan of promoting those who served in the position of P.W.C. Police Association President. It has been a move that has given him control over the association, making it voiceless when Deane mishandles personnel. Example: A past president who was a career traffic accident investigator being promoted to a Internal Affairs position which answers only to the Chief of Police. Then quickly making rank to the position of Watch Commander. He was in Charlie Deane’s pocket as the Association President…..and the reward was the final rank of Lieutenant.

    When this person was promoted, even Charlie Deane remarked he thought it would be a “cold day in hell” before being witness to him reaching the rank which allowed him to become a Watch Commander. He isn’t the only Association President to be promoted to Internal Affairs. If you’re on the promotion list and serving as the Association President……playing along at the expense of the rank and file has had it’s advantages in the past.

    It’s appears to be just one of several power plays that has given the Chief of Police complete control over the kingdom.

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