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	<title>Comments on: Virtucon Exposes Explosive County Sex Harassment Scandal</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/</link>
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		<title>By: Irregardless</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85613</link>
		<dc:creator>Irregardless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85613</guid>
		<description>First: I did NOT provide a first-hand account of Utz trying to move in with one of his female subordinates. I could NOT have done that, because I never witnessed such a thing. I was not even aware of the accusation until I read this board. 

Second: Contrary to your assertion, Ray Utz was NOT my supervisor; I worked in a different department. 

Third: You assert that I was never her supervisor, but I didn't say that, either. Mmmm... At any rate, many people with whom she interacted observed her lack of skill and knowledge -- irrespective of whether they were her supervisor or not. There are many witnesses to her incompetence.

Fourth: I didn't say that a woman's physical appearance was an excuse to engage in sexual or gender harassment -- nor do I believe that any occurred. I believe she fabricated everything to cover her own incompetence. I wrote that I find preposterous the claim that Ray Utz was coming on to her.

So you are wrong in EVERY characterization you make of my writing. Please read thoroughly before you shoot off your mouth (or your keyboard) again.

Finally: The woman who wrote the memo (very possibly you) is NOT credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First: I did NOT provide a first-hand account of Utz trying to move in with one of his female subordinates. I could NOT have done that, because I never witnessed such a thing. I was not even aware of the accusation until I read this board. </p>
<p>Second: Contrary to your assertion, Ray Utz was NOT my supervisor; I worked in a different department. </p>
<p>Third: You assert that I was never her supervisor, but I didn&#8217;t say that, either. Mmmm&#8230; At any rate, many people with whom she interacted observed her lack of skill and knowledge &#8212; irrespective of whether they were her supervisor or not. There are many witnesses to her incompetence.</p>
<p>Fourth: I didn&#8217;t say that a woman&#8217;s physical appearance was an excuse to engage in sexual or gender harassment &#8212; nor do I believe that any occurred. I believe she fabricated everything to cover her own incompetence. I wrote that I find preposterous the claim that Ray Utz was coming on to her.</p>
<p>So you are wrong in EVERY characterization you make of my writing. Please read thoroughly before you shoot off your mouth (or your keyboard) again.</p>
<p>Finally: The woman who wrote the memo (very possibly you) is NOT credible.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth Will Prevail</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85418</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth Will Prevail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85418</guid>
		<description>Irregardless - You’ve helped build the case against your friend Ray Utz rather than exonerate him.  First, you not only provided your first-hand account of his trying to move in with one of his female subordinates but you added that he also attempted to do the same with you.  Whether he was going through a divorce, or uses any other reason, is no excuse.  This is intolerable behavior on the part of a supervisor toward his female subordinates and coworkers.

Also, the memo written by the female victim that was posted on Virtucon is very credible and convincing.  She sticks to facts and events.  Your only arguments were ad hominem attacks against her.  You claim that her job performance was poor but you have never been her supervisor and are in no position to make such a judgment.  In addition, you make insulting remarks about her physical appearance.  Since when is a woman’s appearance an excuse to engage in sexual or gender harassment?  Your remarks are sexist and people like you are a big part of the reason that people like Ray Utz get away with their behavior.

All in all, you should have kept your mouth (or your keyboard) quiet.  Your post convinces me even more that the woman who wrote the original memo is credible, and that Ray Utz should be fired immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irregardless - You’ve helped build the case against your friend Ray Utz rather than exonerate him.  First, you not only provided your first-hand account of his trying to move in with one of his female subordinates but you added that he also attempted to do the same with you.  Whether he was going through a divorce, or uses any other reason, is no excuse.  This is intolerable behavior on the part of a supervisor toward his female subordinates and coworkers.</p>
<p>Also, the memo written by the female victim that was posted on Virtucon is very credible and convincing.  She sticks to facts and events.  Your only arguments were ad hominem attacks against her.  You claim that her job performance was poor but you have never been her supervisor and are in no position to make such a judgment.  In addition, you make insulting remarks about her physical appearance.  Since when is a woman’s appearance an excuse to engage in sexual or gender harassment?  Your remarks are sexist and people like you are a big part of the reason that people like Ray Utz get away with their behavior.</p>
<p>All in all, you should have kept your mouth (or your keyboard) quiet.  Your post convinces me even more that the woman who wrote the original memo is credible, and that Ray Utz should be fired immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Irregardless</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85347</link>
		<dc:creator>Irregardless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85347</guid>
		<description>I am a former PWC employee, and I know the complainant in this case. She quickly earned a reputation as a pedantic, dismissive whiner. She alienated herself from colleagues not only within the Planning Department, but from County staff throughout the government organization. Though she was a lower-level staffer with no management or administrative authority whatsoever, she constantly berated others for not doing things correctly (i.e., her way), while she herself failed to follow even the most basic established procedures. She never demonstrated any breadth of knowledge in the planning profession, and exhibited aggressive behaviors toward others as a defense mechanism to cover her incompetence.

Finally: If any of you were to see this woman, none of you would believe that Ray Utz or any other sighted person was making advances toward her. At the time she claims Utz was trying to "move in" with her, he was going through a divorce, and was looking for temporary housing until he bought a place. He asked me about the same thing, and I certainly never once thought that he was coming on to me. The complainant is once again trying to deflect attention from her own incompetence by making false claims against others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a former PWC employee, and I know the complainant in this case. She quickly earned a reputation as a pedantic, dismissive whiner. She alienated herself from colleagues not only within the Planning Department, but from County staff throughout the government organization. Though she was a lower-level staffer with no management or administrative authority whatsoever, she constantly berated others for not doing things correctly (i.e., her way), while she herself failed to follow even the most basic established procedures. She never demonstrated any breadth of knowledge in the planning profession, and exhibited aggressive behaviors toward others as a defense mechanism to cover her incompetence.</p>
<p>Finally: If any of you were to see this woman, none of you would believe that Ray Utz or any other sighted person was making advances toward her. At the time she claims Utz was trying to &#8220;move in&#8221; with her, he was going through a divorce, and was looking for temporary housing until he bought a place. He asked me about the same thing, and I certainly never once thought that he was coming on to me. The complainant is once again trying to deflect attention from her own incompetence by making false claims against others.</p>
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		<title>By: bonscott</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85086</link>
		<dc:creator>bonscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85086</guid>
		<description>do any of you fine individuals out here expect anything less from our public officials?

you have to remember...it's prince william county!!!....LOLOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do any of you fine individuals out here expect anything less from our public officials?</p>
<p>you have to remember&#8230;it&#8217;s prince william county!!!&#8230;.LOLOL</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85065</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85065</guid>
		<description>We need to significantly shrink PWC Government and return to the fundamentals:  roads, safety and security.  We are spending too much time measuring grass height and teaching people to worry about what their neighbors are up to.  Our Government has grown bloated providing opportunities for corruption, fraud, waste, and abuse.  I'm surprised that a Republican BOCS lead by a tax conservative has supported this growth.

Shrink Government, sell the McCourt Administration Center and other evidence of our growth, and return to the fundamentals. Our BOCS has allowed too many "Kingdoms" do develop and now we are paying the price (both literally and figuratively).  

I'm rather proud of our rural character and really don't want to be like Fairfax.  Am I alone in this regard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to significantly shrink PWC Government and return to the fundamentals:  roads, safety and security.  We are spending too much time measuring grass height and teaching people to worry about what their neighbors are up to.  Our Government has grown bloated providing opportunities for corruption, fraud, waste, and abuse.  I&#8217;m surprised that a Republican BOCS lead by a tax conservative has supported this growth.</p>
<p>Shrink Government, sell the McCourt Administration Center and other evidence of our growth, and return to the fundamentals. Our BOCS has allowed too many &#8220;Kingdoms&#8221; do develop and now we are paying the price (both literally and figuratively).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m rather proud of our rural character and really don&#8217;t want to be like Fairfax.  Am I alone in this regard?</p>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85059</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85059</guid>
		<description>I love the Google ad that is running at the top of this page right now.  "Sexual Harassment Class -- Presented by the AJ Novick Group -- Increase Appropriate Workplace Conduct and Reduce Company Liability -- www.sexualharassmentclass.com"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Google ad that is running at the top of this page right now.  &#8220;Sexual Harassment Class &#8212; Presented by the AJ Novick Group &#8212; Increase Appropriate Workplace Conduct and Reduce Company Liability &#8212; <a href="http://www.sexualharassmentclass.com" rel="nofollow">www.sexualharassmentclass.com</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Love the USA</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85057</link>
		<dc:creator>Love the USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85057</guid>
		<description>As I said in another post, I thought the first bid rigging scheme was just the tip of the iceberg. Watch out I think the Titanic is sinking.

Good ridance to both Horton and Gerhardt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said in another post, I thought the first bid rigging scheme was just the tip of the iceberg. Watch out I think the Titanic is sinking.</p>
<p>Good ridance to both Horton and Gerhardt.</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85052</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85052</guid>
		<description>It's every bit as legitimate as "gender," Chauncy.  That is to say, not at all.

It's SEXual harassment, not "gender."  "Gender" is a term of language, frequently misused by the far Left.

Why is it that the far Left approves of any kind of sex except that between a husband and his wife, or for that matter, between a man and a woman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s every bit as legitimate as &#8220;gender,&#8221; Chauncy.  That is to say, not at all.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s SEXual harassment, not &#8220;gender.&#8221;  &#8220;Gender&#8221; is a term of language, frequently misused by the far Left.</p>
<p>Why is it that the far Left approves of any kind of sex except that between a husband and his wife, or for that matter, between a man and a woman?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85051</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85051</guid>
		<description>I know of nine different women who were subjected to this kind of abuse by Utz.  He is a monster that has been protected by senior staff for far too long, and Peacor and Griffin knew full well what was going on the entire time.

I don't understand how Melissa Peacor would go to such lengths to shut down any efforts to fully investigate these allegations when she could have been a victim of this abuse as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know of nine different women who were subjected to this kind of abuse by Utz.  He is a monster that has been protected by senior staff for far too long, and Peacor and Griffin knew full well what was going on the entire time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how Melissa Peacor would go to such lengths to shut down any efforts to fully investigate these allegations when she could have been a victim of this abuse as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85050</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85050</guid>
		<description>Never saw the movie, so I had to look this up.  Funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never saw the movie, so I had to look this up.  Funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Chauncey Gardiner's Alter Ego</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85049</link>
		<dc:creator>Chauncey Gardiner's Alter Ego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85049</guid>
		<description>Lighten up Greg.  If you publish something you've got to accept a little satirical poke at it.  Maybe the reference to Chauncey escaped you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lighten up Greg.  If you publish something you&#8217;ve got to accept a little satirical poke at it.  Maybe the reference to Chauncey escaped you.</p>
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		<title>By: Knowleagable Person</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85048</link>
		<dc:creator>Knowleagable Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85048</guid>
		<description>I guess there is more information and revelation from the way PWC has been managed. Things like how positions were advertised, re-advertised to suit certain candidate even when HR rejected applicants, how positions were not filled because some one in the department insisted that no one would be their supervisor, especially not a minority or anyone from within the department. Other concerns that was never visited was how senior management positions were created and filled, how the DDS was created and furnishing of offices within this department, etc. It will be interested to look how much involved was the County Executive in the planning and execution of activities in the Department of Public works. Finally, the elimination of Arborist review was done surely to please some developers. Perhaps after July when the New County Executive takes office, this could be revisited too. PWC is a great place to live and work. However, some people have taken the government services as their personal property and have manipulated and rendered it non-serviceable to the people of PWC. Harassment, discrimination and the abuse of power are prevalent within the County Government. Who will fix this? Something to think about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there is more information and revelation from the way PWC has been managed. Things like how positions were advertised, re-advertised to suit certain candidate even when HR rejected applicants, how positions were not filled because some one in the department insisted that no one would be their supervisor, especially not a minority or anyone from within the department. Other concerns that was never visited was how senior management positions were created and filled, how the DDS was created and furnishing of offices within this department, etc. It will be interested to look how much involved was the County Executive in the planning and execution of activities in the Department of Public works. Finally, the elimination of Arborist review was done surely to please some developers. Perhaps after July when the New County Executive takes office, this could be revisited too. PWC is a great place to live and work. However, some people have taken the government services as their personal property and have manipulated and rendered it non-serviceable to the people of PWC. Harassment, discrimination and the abuse of power are prevalent within the County Government. Who will fix this? Something to think about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85046</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85046</guid>
		<description>C'mon.  Here's someone who has suffered what seems to be gender-based harassment and you're going to quibble about their word choice in a complaint to HR that was never properly investigated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon.  Here&#8217;s someone who has suffered what seems to be gender-based harassment and you&#8217;re going to quibble about their word choice in a complaint to HR that was never properly investigated?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85045</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85045</guid>
		<description>Chaunce-no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaunce-no.</p>
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		<title>By: Chauncey Gardiner</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85044</link>
		<dc:creator>Chauncey Gardiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85044</guid>
		<description>Is "irregardless" a word?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8220;irregardless&#8221; a word?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85042</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85042</guid>
		<description>This certainly seems to rise to the level where the women in this case could prevail in a gender harassment suit.  If there are more than a few, a class action civil rights suit is certainly not out of the question here.

If the county fails to quickly and decisively respond to these allegations it would definitely be in a bad position during a trial.  If the county is going to have any chance to shield itself from punitive damages, it better get moving on this right now.  I hate to see the county take a hit like this, but when employees get out of control like this the victims deserve justice and some compensation for what they had to go through.

I'd like to see Utz personally have to compensate the victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This certainly seems to rise to the level where the women in this case could prevail in a gender harassment suit.  If there are more than a few, a class action civil rights suit is certainly not out of the question here.</p>
<p>If the county fails to quickly and decisively respond to these allegations it would definitely be in a bad position during a trial.  If the county is going to have any chance to shield itself from punitive damages, it better get moving on this right now.  I hate to see the county take a hit like this, but when employees get out of control like this the victims deserve justice and some compensation for what they had to go through.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see Utz personally have to compensate the victims.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/06/04/virtucon-exposes-explosive-county-sex-harassment-scandal/#comment-85041</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's about time. Unfair treatment of county staff and others, particularly women, and attempts to intimidateare a common practice.  

Though I don't blame Gerhart for the corruption in the Office of Information Technology, I do blame him for culture that has been created and permitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time. Unfair treatment of county staff and others, particularly women, and attempts to intimidateare a common practice.  </p>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t blame Gerhart for the corruption in the Office of Information Technology, I do blame him for culture that has been created and permitted.</p>
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