Comments on: Luke Torian: Choosing Between God And Mammon

By: unbias church member

unbias church member — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:40:17 +0000

Jealousy is a sin. The people give to the church from their heart. It is the people way of giving back a percentage of what God has blessed them with. Now if the church choose to pay high salaries, I don’t have a problem with that because God knows what my intentions were. I am very pleased with what the church is offering me and my family. So if you don’t have a hummer or a rolex watch maybe it wasn’t meant for you and if Pastor Torian has these items maybe it’s his reward for a job well done.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:42:48 +0000

I agree with Johnson…. Living above reproach is a noble path.

I see a few other questions that lots of folk are trouble with:

1. How does he separate his political pursuits from his religious pursuits ethically? What does the bible say?
2. In his daily life, when is he a politician and when is he a Pastor? How does he parse his political interests and non-profit church - 501c3 and churches affiliated auxillaries interest -501c3?
3. I under stand the church - 501c3 must declare to be non partician. If he is a Democrat then how can he be fair and impartial to an independent or republican, etc members in his church and before God?

It is going to be very interesting how the media and public deals with this.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:17:03 +0000

I want a free lunch too.

Tipper

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:55:47 +0000

I want a free lunch too.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:43:07 +0000

Free lunch

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:40:25 +0000

Get your facts straight, his wife is not the Associate Pastor of the First Mount Zion Church.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:14:07 +0000

believe it or not the pastor is thinking only about what goes into his pockets the congregation is pretty damn naive may i say so. i just wish one day they will wake up and find out that the pastor is a crook.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:22:55 +0000

He is trash and the congregation should let him go.

If he is so powerful then why is he running and why is he a pastor in a church?

I feel sorry for the members of that church. The pastor is all about the MONEY AND POWER.

That is what you said.

This guy is trash.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:02:18 +0000

The guy is obviously a piece of trash and his congregation should remove him.

By: Bryanna

Bryanna — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:42:21 +0000

Government doesn’t need to be involved in business. Just like Obama shouldn’t be telling GM and Chrysler who they should hire or fire, or to require salary caps on businesses (unless they take TARP money!)

It’s not the role of government to dictate to a church the salary or worth of it’s pastor.

Dr. Torian’s wife is an educator in Prince William schools. These two are quite the power couple in the Dumfries District.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:26:20 +0000

I want a free lunch too said on 21 Jun 2009 at 1:30 pm: Flag comment

if he was white and conservative the media would be howling and sniffing all over this one . . . I am starting to look forward to becoming a minority in this county, state, country soon (white male over 40) so I can get some free stuff and job preferences too . . .

If Obama gives amnesty to 20-30 million illegals and they start bringing in their relatives, you might get what you wish for!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:49:23 +0000

This has nothing to do with the Marriage Amendment. in the community.

By: I want a free lunch too

I want a free lunch too — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:30:42 +0000

By: It's just politics

It's just politics — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:08:11 +0000

Jeff Frederick picked Luke Torian as a prospective candidate to run on the GOP ticket OVER top of his wife’s claim to it being her “time to run.”

Frederick may be young and arrogant but he is NOT stupid.

Torian made a name for himself when he lead the charge to support the Marriage Amendment in his community. He has the faith and family values to successfully lead his church of 4,000 members.

The GOP missed out on this one!

By: Logical Thinker

Logical Thinker — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:29:05 +0000

Jesus is NOT in the grave. He has risen! He is alive!!!

By: Johnson

Johnson — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:15:40 +0000

We belonged to the Presbyterian Church USA as I was growing up. Our Pastor received housing appropriate for his family’s needs, a car and a salary. The national church provided his retirement plan. His children applied for grants, scholorships, worked and took loans to get through college. Humility is a virtue for people of the cloth.

Religion and churches should never cross paths with politics. EVER. That’s one of the few things that the French got right.

By: BothPartiesColludeAgainstUsAndMarketToOurFears

BothPartiesColludeAgainstUsAndMarketToOurFears — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:03:18 +0000

300 K is a lot for spreading bfairy tales and pretending to be able to talk to God, certainly.

Jesus must be rolling over in his grave.

By: Logical Thinker

Logical Thinker — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:24:31 +0000

Get his statement of economic interests and look at it. Then if you think you need more detail, ask him and his republican opponent to release their taxes on the same day to the press. Pretty simple to me. If there’s no shame in doing the work, then there’s no shame in sharing this information. Unless, well, there is shame…hardly the case here…right?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:27:59 +0000

I don’t think so, Austin. His spiritual father the Rev. Jeremiah Wright would never let The Teleprompter of the United States do that…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:17:12 +0000

501(c)(3)’s are required to have a Board of Directors (BOD). The BoD is responsible for salary. Generally, they consider the salary required to attract and retain the talent they need to manage the non-profit (in this case, a church). In the case of “mega-churches”, we are talking rather complicated management, theatrical, and spiritual gifts which probably dictate a CEO level salary.

In the end, a church is a business like any other. The larger and more complicated the church, the larger the salary.

I guess this guy didn’t take the vow of poverty.