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	<title>Comments on: Frank Principi Gets &#8220;Stimulus&#8221; For Illegal Aliens</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-86452</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-86452</guid>
		<description>im absolutely disgusted.....</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-86451</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-86451</guid>
		<description>im absolutely discusted,</description>
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		<title>By: Brittancus</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-86276</link>
		<dc:creator>Brittancus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-86276</guid>
		<description>Illegal Immigration and health care are heavily connected, believe it or not. Massive high taxes are imposed on the US taxpayer to pay for so called emergency hospital care for illegal immigrants and their families. Except foreign nation use the emergency room for their basic needs, such as the flue or a splinter in the finger. As always the taxpayer is the recipient? Health care revision can never happen while Taxpayer carry the heavy burden of paying for the millions of illegal workers and families, who have settled here. As an example 80 hospitals and clinics locked their doors for good in the Sanctuary State of California, because huge hordes of individuals came their for free health care. Why do you think California found themselves with a $24.5 billion budget deficit?

 Those who want to just follow the same old road, can do so with the profit taking commercial insurance. Those who would be satisfied with a government run health care program, can now start demanding it from the lawmakers. Those who see a Universal health care system, similar to most developed countries in Europe, should start informing every Representative and Senate politician starting today. Rationing in places like England, was caused by the major impact of uncontrolled immigration. I see--THE RATS--are coming out of the woodwork, using propaganda and downright lies about government run medical care? The Special interest lobby, status quo have very wealthy fingers in the pie and do not want Health care for everybody? It's a trillion dollar business like Cancer treatments. 

The pharmaceutical companies, AMA and others have very much to lose? Even many corrupt politicians are stockholders in this behemoth money machine. Most American working class can do--without-- high premiums, pre-existing condition clauses. deductibles, co-pays that is representative of the wealthy medical care insurers.

Unless our politicians commit themselves to a strong E-Verify, Police enforcement 287(g) and enforce all federal employees are vetted, so illegal immigrant workers can be rooted-out. The push for AMNESTY, will even draw another invasion in to our nation once the word goes out.

This free health care atrocity was placed  on the unknowing  American, years past  and never been rescinded.  This has favored the  business  community, because they pay--ABSOLUTELY NOTHING-- to a maimed or sick illegal worker, because it's passed on to the consumer. IF YOU DESIRE A NEW HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR INSURER? WHETHER YOU WANT THE FOR PROFIT INSURANCE OR GOVERNMENT MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM?  TODAY IS CRITICAL. SO CALL YOUR SENATOR OR CONGRESSMAN 202-224-312. Just like illegal immigration , we cannot afford anymore to subsidize the business that hire them or the millions of illegal families. GOOGLE--on the web to find the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal Immigration and health care are heavily connected, believe it or not. Massive high taxes are imposed on the US taxpayer to pay for so called emergency hospital care for illegal immigrants and their families. Except foreign nation use the emergency room for their basic needs, such as the flue or a splinter in the finger. As always the taxpayer is the recipient? Health care revision can never happen while Taxpayer carry the heavy burden of paying for the millions of illegal workers and families, who have settled here. As an example 80 hospitals and clinics locked their doors for good in the Sanctuary State of California, because huge hordes of individuals came their for free health care. Why do you think California found themselves with a $24.5 billion budget deficit?</p>
<p> Those who want to just follow the same old road, can do so with the profit taking commercial insurance. Those who would be satisfied with a government run health care program, can now start demanding it from the lawmakers. Those who see a Universal health care system, similar to most developed countries in Europe, should start informing every Representative and Senate politician starting today. Rationing in places like England, was caused by the major impact of uncontrolled immigration. I see&#8211;THE RATS&#8211;are coming out of the woodwork, using propaganda and downright lies about government run medical care? The Special interest lobby, status quo have very wealthy fingers in the pie and do not want Health care for everybody? It&#8217;s a trillion dollar business like Cancer treatments. </p>
<p>The pharmaceutical companies, AMA and others have very much to lose? Even many corrupt politicians are stockholders in this behemoth money machine. Most American working class can do&#8211;without&#8211; high premiums, pre-existing condition clauses. deductibles, co-pays that is representative of the wealthy medical care insurers.</p>
<p>Unless our politicians commit themselves to a strong E-Verify, Police enforcement 287(g) and enforce all federal employees are vetted, so illegal immigrant workers can be rooted-out. The push for AMNESTY, will even draw another invasion in to our nation once the word goes out.</p>
<p>This free health care atrocity was placed  on the unknowing  American, years past  and never been rescinded.  This has favored the  business  community, because they pay&#8211;ABSOLUTELY NOTHING&#8211; to a maimed or sick illegal worker, because it&#8217;s passed on to the consumer. IF YOU DESIRE A NEW HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR INSURER? WHETHER YOU WANT THE FOR PROFIT INSURANCE OR GOVERNMENT MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM?  TODAY IS CRITICAL. SO CALL YOUR SENATOR OR CONGRESSMAN 202-224-312. Just like illegal immigration , we cannot afford anymore to subsidize the business that hire them or the millions of illegal families. GOOGLE&#8211;on the web to find the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leeper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85949</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85949</guid>
		<description>Some irresponsible people won't even get car insurance when it's legally required. What makes you think these irresponsible people will get renters insurance (which isn't legally required)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some irresponsible people won&#8217;t even get car insurance when it&#8217;s legally required. What makes you think these irresponsible people will get renters insurance (which isn&#8217;t legally required)?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85945</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85945</guid>
		<description>Ricky should pay them for all the possessions they lost.  Stupid illegals, don't you compronde renter's insurance?  Most places require you to give them your policy number and it's a requirement to move in.  I agree with Chris' comments in the online version of the news on this story, the apt manager should keep the deposits to pay the fines they could incur.

Come on Ricky, step up, put these people up in your place.  How about it 9500 Liberty?  Can you put them up for a couple of months?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricky should pay them for all the possessions they lost.  Stupid illegals, don&#8217;t you compronde renter&#8217;s insurance?  Most places require you to give them your policy number and it&#8217;s a requirement to move in.  I agree with Chris&#8217; comments in the online version of the news on this story, the apt manager should keep the deposits to pay the fines they could incur.</p>
<p>Come on Ricky, step up, put these people up in your place.  How about it 9500 Liberty?  Can you put them up for a couple of months?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85944</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous said on 7 Jul 2009 at 2:21 pm: Flag comment 

Did you all see this article I did not see a copy so I thought I would post it being it is in your area. Link to story and credit to the author below.

The two illegals were just celebrating America's birthday on the 4th of July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous said on 7 Jul 2009 at 2:21 pm: Flag comment </p>
<p>Did you all see this article I did not see a copy so I thought I would post it being it is in your area. Link to story and credit to the author below.</p>
<p>The two illegals were just celebrating America&#8217;s birthday on the 4th of July.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85943</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85943</guid>
		<description>anonymous said on 7 Jul 2009 at 2:28 pm: Flag comment 

I forgot to ask p.s. have any of you read the police report or a story in one of your local papers on this story above.


http://loudounextra.washingtonpost.com/news/2009/jul/07/two-charged-july-4-stabbing/?local</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous said on 7 Jul 2009 at 2:28 pm: Flag comment </p>
<p>I forgot to ask p.s. have any of you read the police report or a story in one of your local papers on this story above.</p>
<p><a href="http://loudounextra.washingtonpost.com/news/2009/jul/07/two-charged-july-4-stabbing/?local" rel="nofollow">http://loudounextra.washingtonpost.com/news/2009/jul/07/two-charged-july-4-stabbing/?local</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vigilant1</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85940</link>
		<dc:creator>Vigilant1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85940</guid>
		<description>anonymous said on 7 Jul 2009 at 2:28 pm: Flag comment 

I forgot to ask p.s. have any of you read the police report or a story in one of your local papers on this story above. I would like to document that these things actually happened. Would appreciate some feedback on the blog.


Here are the press reports of subject attacks:

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&#38;sid=397392

http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=502844&#38;nid=25

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10440-2004Jun27.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous said on 7 Jul 2009 at 2:28 pm: Flag comment </p>
<p>I forgot to ask p.s. have any of you read the police report or a story in one of your local papers on this story above. I would like to document that these things actually happened. Would appreciate some feedback on the blog.</p>
<p>Here are the press reports of subject attacks:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&amp;sid=397392" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&amp;sid=397392</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=502844&amp;nid=25" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=502844&amp;nid=25</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10440-2004Jun27.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10440-2004Jun27.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85935</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85935</guid>
		<description>I forgot to ask p.s. have any of you read the police report or a story in one of your local papers on this story above. I would like to document that these things actually happened. Would appreciate some feedback on the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to ask p.s. have any of you read the police report or a story in one of your local papers on this story above. I would like to document that these things actually happened. Would appreciate some feedback on the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85934</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85934</guid>
		<description>Did you all see this article I did not see a copy so I thought I would post it being it is in your area. Link to story and credit to the author below.

July 7 09              
 
 

"A little before 11:00 p.m. on July 4. a 22-year-old man was walking with some friends in the Whitcomb Square area of Sterling Park when he was approached by

Jose E. Salmeron-Zelayandai, 20, and Carlos Hernandez-Trochez, 20.

One of the men grabbed him from behind and both attacked him. They stabbed the victim repeatedly, then fled the scene.

Witnesses were able to give a good description of the assailants to police and both Salmeron-Zelayandai and Hernandez-Trochez were apprehended shortly after the attack.

The victim is recovering from his wounds.

Loudoun County Sheriff's Office spokesman Kraig Troxell said that both Salmeron-Zelayandai and Hernandez-Trochez had been charged with malicious wounding and gang participation. They are being held without bond and federal immigration detainers have been filed against them.

Troxell declined to name the gang with which the men are affiliated.

Of course, Northern Virginia has been inundated with illegal aliens in recent years, and the notoriously violent Salvadoran gang known as MS-13 has emerged as the area’s most infamous gang.

The FBI's National Gang Task Force Director Robert Clifford, said: "The migrant moves and the gang follows. If you follow the construction trade, that is where a lot of these immigrants go."

MS-13 set up shop in Northern Virginia during the 1990s, lured by the region's fast-growing Salvadoran population, later expanding into the Maryland suburbs of Langley Park and Gaithersburg.

During 2004-2005, there were two machete attacks in the Northern Virginia area. An Alexandria teenager lost four fingers during a savage encounter with MS-13 members, while a Fairfax man also became a victim of an MS-13 machete attack. Both incidents are believed to have been initiation acts.

In 2005, two MS-13 members were convicted in an Alexandria, Va. United States District Court for killing a 17-year-old pregnant girl. A rope was placed around the neck of Brenda Paz, she was then stabbed repeatedly. Her body was then left along the muddy banks of the Shenandoah River. The murder was retribution for the girl´s cooperation with a federal investigation into the gang´s activities."

 


 

Author: Dave Gibson
Dave Gibson is an Examiner from Norfolk. You can see Dave's articles on Dave's Home Page. 
www.examiner.com/x-5919-Norfolk-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d7-Another-illegal-alien-gang-attack-in-Loudoun-County</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you all see this article I did not see a copy so I thought I would post it being it is in your area. Link to story and credit to the author below.</p>
<p>July 7 09              </p>
<p>&#8220;A little before 11:00 p.m. on July 4. a 22-year-old man was walking with some friends in the Whitcomb Square area of Sterling Park when he was approached by</p>
<p>Jose E. Salmeron-Zelayandai, 20, and Carlos Hernandez-Trochez, 20.</p>
<p>One of the men grabbed him from behind and both attacked him. They stabbed the victim repeatedly, then fled the scene.</p>
<p>Witnesses were able to give a good description of the assailants to police and both Salmeron-Zelayandai and Hernandez-Trochez were apprehended shortly after the attack.</p>
<p>The victim is recovering from his wounds.</p>
<p>Loudoun County Sheriff&#8217;s Office spokesman Kraig Troxell said that both Salmeron-Zelayandai and Hernandez-Trochez had been charged with malicious wounding and gang participation. They are being held without bond and federal immigration detainers have been filed against them.</p>
<p>Troxell declined to name the gang with which the men are affiliated.</p>
<p>Of course, Northern Virginia has been inundated with illegal aliens in recent years, and the notoriously violent Salvadoran gang known as MS-13 has emerged as the area’s most infamous gang.</p>
<p>The FBI&#8217;s National Gang Task Force Director Robert Clifford, said: &#8220;The migrant moves and the gang follows. If you follow the construction trade, that is where a lot of these immigrants go.&#8221;</p>
<p>MS-13 set up shop in Northern Virginia during the 1990s, lured by the region&#8217;s fast-growing Salvadoran population, later expanding into the Maryland suburbs of Langley Park and Gaithersburg.</p>
<p>During 2004-2005, there were two machete attacks in the Northern Virginia area. An Alexandria teenager lost four fingers during a savage encounter with MS-13 members, while a Fairfax man also became a victim of an MS-13 machete attack. Both incidents are believed to have been initiation acts.</p>
<p>In 2005, two MS-13 members were convicted in an Alexandria, Va. United States District Court for killing a 17-year-old pregnant girl. A rope was placed around the neck of Brenda Paz, she was then stabbed repeatedly. Her body was then left along the muddy banks of the Shenandoah River. The murder was retribution for the girl´s cooperation with a federal investigation into the gang´s activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Author: Dave Gibson<br />
Dave Gibson is an Examiner from Norfolk. You can see Dave&#8217;s articles on Dave&#8217;s Home Page.<br />
<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-5919-Norfolk-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d7-Another-illegal-alien-gang-attack-in-Loudoun-County" rel="nofollow">www.examiner.com/x-5919-Norfolk-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d7-Another-illegal-alien-gang-attack-in-Loudoun-County</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85933</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85933</guid>
		<description>You gotta read the article below from the MJM.  Look hard at the article's photo and you might recognize a few people.  Apparently the Latinos want the apartment owner to pay for their belonging that were lost in the  fire at the complex where they lived.  Guess they never heard or renter's insurance.  Then again, why buy insurance when you can try and con someone  else to pay for your loss (or health care.)  Suprised Princippi is not there though he may have been out of the picture (in more ways than one).

http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/fire_victims_rally_for_security_deposits/38887/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You gotta read the article below from the MJM.  Look hard at the article&#8217;s photo and you might recognize a few people.  Apparently the Latinos want the apartment owner to pay for their belonging that were lost in the  fire at the complex where they lived.  Guess they never heard or renter&#8217;s insurance.  Then again, why buy insurance when you can try and con someone  else to pay for your loss (or health care.)  Suprised Princippi is not there though he may have been out of the picture (in more ways than one).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/fire_victims_rally_for_security_deposits/38887/" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/fire_victims_rally_for_security_deposits/38887/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85932</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85932</guid>
		<description>"Brennan also said that irrespective of the financial burden imposed on the community or the state by illegal aliens, the cost was not sufficient to justify preventing illegal immigrants from availing themselves of a free public education.55"

At this point in time, nobody could make the same claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brennan also said that irrespective of the financial burden imposed on the community or the state by illegal aliens, the cost was not sufficient to justify preventing illegal immigrants from availing themselves of a free public education.55&#8243;</p>
<p>At this point in time, nobody could make the same claim.</p>
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		<title>By: A PW County Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85929</link>
		<dc:creator>A PW County Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85929</guid>
		<description>This is from the Center for Immigration Studies webpage--

"The 1982 Plyler v. Doe decision is perhaps the most egregious of the Court’s immigration rulings.49 In the 1960s and 1970s, a rising tide of illegal immigrants crossed the border from Mexico into Texas to take advantage of the better economic climate and quality of life in the United States. By 1975, the financial strain of the influx had started to choke the already crowded school systems in Texas border towns. In response, Texas enacted a new law concerning children not legally admitted to the United States that allowed local school districts to deny their enrollment and withheld from local school districts state funds to educate these children.50

Numerous lawsuits were brought on behalf of several children challenging the new law, which were consolidated in the case Plyler v. Doe. In a 5-4 decision, Justice William Brennan, writing for the majority, went so far as to extend the term “person” in the Fourteenth Amendment to include illegal aliens, by virtue of their physical presence in the United States.51

Moreover, Brennan found that the children of illegal immigrants weren’t responsible for their illegal entry into the country, therefore, “legislation directing the onus of a parent’s misconduct against his children does not comport with fundamental conceptions of justice.”52

While the Court recognized that there is no constitutionally enumerated “right” to a free public education, Brennan stated:

[N]either is [a public education] merely some governmental ‘benefit’ indistinguishable from the other forms of social welfare legislation. Both the importance of education in maintaining our basic institutions, and the lasting impact of its deprivation on the life of the child, mark the distinction. The American people have always regarded education and [the] acquisition of knowledge as matters of supreme importance…. We have recognized the public schools as a most vital civic institution for the preservation of a democratic system of government….And these historic perceptions of the public schools as inculcating fundamental values necessary to the maintenance of a democratic political system have been confirmed by the observations of social scientists.53

But Brennan wasn’t done. When he moved to the question of whether the equal protection clause applied to extending social benefits to illegal aliens, he determined that because Texas had essentially delineated illegal aliens as a distinct “class” of people, they must be treated equally with every other person in the state. Not to do so in this instance—the provision of a free public education—would violate the equal protection clause.54 In Plyler, the Court decided that any conglomeration of people, regardless of the reason for their classification under law, had to be treated identically with every other class of people."

I believe the Wall Street Journal characterized CIS as "anti-immigrant"

Here is the whole article for people that would like to read it about who is a person under the laws.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back305.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from the Center for Immigration Studies webpage&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;The 1982 Plyler v. Doe decision is perhaps the most egregious of the Court’s immigration rulings.49 In the 1960s and 1970s, a rising tide of illegal immigrants crossed the border from Mexico into Texas to take advantage of the better economic climate and quality of life in the United States. By 1975, the financial strain of the influx had started to choke the already crowded school systems in Texas border towns. In response, Texas enacted a new law concerning children not legally admitted to the United States that allowed local school districts to deny their enrollment and withheld from local school districts state funds to educate these children.50</p>
<p>Numerous lawsuits were brought on behalf of several children challenging the new law, which were consolidated in the case Plyler v. Doe. In a 5-4 decision, Justice William Brennan, writing for the majority, went so far as to extend the term “person” in the Fourteenth Amendment to include illegal aliens, by virtue of their physical presence in the United States.51</p>
<p>Moreover, Brennan found that the children of illegal immigrants weren’t responsible for their illegal entry into the country, therefore, “legislation directing the onus of a parent’s misconduct against his children does not comport with fundamental conceptions of justice.”52</p>
<p>While the Court recognized that there is no constitutionally enumerated “right” to a free public education, Brennan stated:</p>
<p>[N]either is [a public education] merely some governmental ‘benefit’ indistinguishable from the other forms of social welfare legislation. Both the importance of education in maintaining our basic institutions, and the lasting impact of its deprivation on the life of the child, mark the distinction. The American people have always regarded education and [the] acquisition of knowledge as matters of supreme importance…. We have recognized the public schools as a most vital civic institution for the preservation of a democratic system of government….And these historic perceptions of the public schools as inculcating fundamental values necessary to the maintenance of a democratic political system have been confirmed by the observations of social scientists.53</p>
<p>But Brennan wasn’t done. When he moved to the question of whether the equal protection clause applied to extending social benefits to illegal aliens, he determined that because Texas had essentially delineated illegal aliens as a distinct “class” of people, they must be treated equally with every other person in the state. Not to do so in this instance—the provision of a free public education—would violate the equal protection clause.54 In Plyler, the Court decided that any conglomeration of people, regardless of the reason for their classification under law, had to be treated identically with every other class of people.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe the Wall Street Journal characterized CIS as &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is the whole article for people that would like to read it about who is a person under the laws.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back305.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back305.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pat Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85928</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85928</guid>
		<description>Junes - you hit the nail on the head - 

many other nations have an ID Card to identify who is eligible for benefits.  In the US, we do not have such an ID Card.

We cannot even agree what goes on a drivers license here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junes - you hit the nail on the head - </p>
<p>many other nations have an ID Card to identify who is eligible for benefits.  In the US, we do not have such an ID Card.</p>
<p>We cannot even agree what goes on a drivers license here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous...  and loving it!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85927</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous...  and loving it!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85927</guid>
		<description>Brigit,

I caught your answer before signing off and thought I’d respond.  Your answer is technically correct; however, for law enforcement (remember my comment about DOJ)  purposes everyone within our borders is treated as here legally (as a U.S. Person) until proven otherwise.  That means they are protected by the Constitution until they are determined to be here illegally (which, ironically, makes proving they are here legally or otherwise difficult).  Our googal answer doen’t provide “context” from a law enforcement perspective.  This has been a particular challange regarding terrorists within our borders.  They understand our laws. 

As I think you know, if you commit a crime against someone we assume they are a U.S. Person as we have no legal reason to assume otherwise.  On the other hand, if someone here illegally commits a crime, we may inquire as to their status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brigit,</p>
<p>I caught your answer before signing off and thought I’d respond.  Your answer is technically correct; however, for law enforcement (remember my comment about DOJ)  purposes everyone within our borders is treated as here legally (as a U.S. Person) until proven otherwise.  That means they are protected by the Constitution until they are determined to be here illegally (which, ironically, makes proving they are here legally or otherwise difficult).  Our googal answer doen’t provide “context” from a law enforcement perspective.  This has been a particular challange regarding terrorists within our borders.  They understand our laws. </p>
<p>As I think you know, if you commit a crime against someone we assume they are a U.S. Person as we have no legal reason to assume otherwise.  On the other hand, if someone here illegally commits a crime, we may inquire as to their status.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85925</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85925</guid>
		<description>Off subject sort of.  Saw that slimy Ricky made the news rallying for the apartment fire victims who are burned out and can't find a place to live and want their security deposits back.  They also want their possessions replaced.  Guess they didn't compre renters insurance...  45 victims, 7 apartments, big families eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off subject sort of.  Saw that slimy Ricky made the news rallying for the apartment fire victims who are burned out and can&#8217;t find a place to live and want their security deposits back.  They also want their possessions replaced.  Guess they didn&#8217;t compre renters insurance&#8230;  45 victims, 7 apartments, big families eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85923</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85923</guid>
		<description>Anonymous... and loving it! Is full of it:

Question:
Is an illegal alien in the US a US Person? 
Answer:
No. Only foreign nationals who are lawfully in the US and who are permanent resident aliens are US Persons


Question:
Just what exactly is a U.S. Person? 
Answer:
Any of these are U.S. Persons: 

A U.S. citizen, native-born or naturalized 
A permanent resident alien (legally in the U.S., with the "green card") 
An unincorporated association made up mostly of U.S. citizens and/or permanent resident aliens 
An activity incorporated in the U.S. EXCEPT for a corporation directed and controlled by a foreign government(s) 
A corporation or subsidiary incorporated abroad, even if partially or completely owned by a corporation incorporated in the U.S., is NOT a U.S. Person. 

http://www.dami.army.pentagon.mil/offices/dami-ch/io/faq/person.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous&#8230; and loving it! Is full of it:</p>
<p>Question:<br />
Is an illegal alien in the US a US Person?<br />
Answer:<br />
No. Only foreign nationals who are lawfully in the US and who are permanent resident aliens are US Persons</p>
<p>Question:<br />
Just what exactly is a U.S. Person?<br />
Answer:<br />
Any of these are U.S. Persons: </p>
<p>A U.S. citizen, native-born or naturalized<br />
A permanent resident alien (legally in the U.S., with the &#8220;green card&#8221;)<br />
An unincorporated association made up mostly of U.S. citizens and/or permanent resident aliens<br />
An activity incorporated in the U.S. EXCEPT for a corporation directed and controlled by a foreign government(s)<br />
A corporation or subsidiary incorporated abroad, even if partially or completely owned by a corporation incorporated in the U.S., is NOT a U.S. Person. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dami.army.pentagon.mil/offices/dami-ch/io/faq/person.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dami.army.pentagon.mil/offices/dami-ch/io/faq/person.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron Homan</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85920</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Homan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85920</guid>
		<description>Mine the border.  Claymores are a great deterent.  It will only take a few days before the message gets out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine the border.  Claymores are a great deterent.  It will only take a few days before the message gets out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85918</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85918</guid>
		<description>Anon and loving it,

As a citizen and veteran it is my right to wear what I want and to assemble where I want to.  If I choose to wear my HSM t-shirt and stand on a public way watching people go in and out of the clinic is that a hate crime?  How about I wear my border patrol hat while I'm doing it?  Is that a hate crime?   How about I take my video camera and record the license plates of people going into the clinic?  Is that a hate crime?   Ever hear of free speech and freedom to assemble?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon and loving it,</p>
<p>As a citizen and veteran it is my right to wear what I want and to assemble where I want to.  If I choose to wear my HSM t-shirt and stand on a public way watching people go in and out of the clinic is that a hate crime?  How about I wear my border patrol hat while I&#8217;m doing it?  Is that a hate crime?   How about I take my video camera and record the license plates of people going into the clinic?  Is that a hate crime?   Ever hear of free speech and freedom to assemble?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous...  and loving it!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85917</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous...  and loving it!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/07/05/frank-principi-gets-stimulus-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-85917</guid>
		<description>Let me answer it for you.  Let’s talk law (as in Department of Justice Law).  There’s a concept called U.S. Person.  This covers anyone who makes it inside our borders (including undocumented aliens and suspected terrorists).  They are fully protected by the U.S. Constitution.  This causes a number or problems in the age of stateless actors and terrorists; however, it’s the law (and public policy).  

 Haven’t you wondered why Bush set up Guantanamo?  It denied terrorists Constitutional protection. 

I look forward to reading your website regularly in the future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me answer it for you.  Let’s talk law (as in Department of Justice Law).  There’s a concept called U.S. Person.  This covers anyone who makes it inside our borders (including undocumented aliens and suspected terrorists).  They are fully protected by the U.S. Constitution.  This causes a number or problems in the age of stateless actors and terrorists; however, it’s the law (and public policy).  </p>
<p> Haven’t you wondered why Bush set up Guantanamo?  It denied terrorists Constitutional protection. </p>
<p>I look forward to reading your website regularly in the future&#8230;</p>
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