I’ll say it again: anyone can go or be taken to an emergency room and receive care. There are free clinics in almost every community. These facts do not preclude us from bolstering what we have or taking steps to reduce costs. This is all just a scam to legitimize free health care for illegal aliens.

Please provide examples of people going to other Countries to get better coverage and care. Sure people might go for experimental drugs that have not been approved by the FDA, etc, but not for the outright coverage or care. Simply put, we have the best medical care in the World. Why do you think many of the conjoined surgeries happen here? Because of the level of service and experience that simply can’t be found elsewhere.

By far, more people come here for health care then Americans go elsewhere.

Funny that you provide examples of Government funded programs that need help. If those programs do not work, why do you think a Government run health care system will?

How much did you pay for milk ten years ago? Prices go up, that does not mean we should blow up the current system. Do you think prices will not go up under the Government plan? I pay very little for my medical benefits, about $10.00 a month(I’m the only one on my plan).

and why do people of the US fly to Germany for treatment?

Or South America?

Our health system is just like our infrastructure, our social security, medicare, medicaid - it is time to pay the piper. How much did you pay your employer for benefits 10 years ago? How much today?

And it won’t just be the elderly … the frail, handicapped, disabled, mentally ill of any age… in short, anyone who cannot function as a good worker bee.

http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html

Wait until the Government runs it. They will tell you your mother has already lived long enough, no sense in getting treatment for whatever might be wrong with her. Look at England for an example of why Government run health care system does not work.

I’ll ask the same questions that I asked Pat.

Why do people who have access to “free” health care come here for our priviate health care?

Why is obama trying to push through such a large bill in record time? With very little debate?

Not everyone under the obama plan is going to be covered. So why change to something that is not going to be better and will cost more?

Do you need to the Government to tell you how to tie your shoes? Do you need the Government to tell you how to turn off your TV? Can you make any decisions without looking toward the Government?

Agreed.

Bridget,

Of course he disagrees with the CBO, because it does not support his numbers. The CBO is a non-partisan group, so there is not bias to those numbers, and that is what he can’t stand.

I think it’s sad that so many people would so afraid of change when we’re paying so much to get so little.

-SC

That’s why you and I and 250 million other citizens screwed up and we all will be paying for it if the healthcare “reform” package passes. You think social security and Medicare/Medicaid have problems? Wait a couple of years and see where this crap “reform” ends up. Of course, Obama won’t have to worry about it as being a “former” president it will entitle him to free medical services for him, his family and his illegal “auntie” for life.

Don’t forget either the chain migration that is going to happen when 20 million illegals are put on the rolls. California today will look like a rich uncle after this country has been bankrupted and turned into a 3rd world country. We are not too far from it now.

And how did Obama responded to the CBO report?

http://www.4yourcountry.org/2009/07/obama-says-cbo-is-not-telling-the-truth-on-health-care.html

The problem is obama and his fellow Anti-America libs do see health insurance as a right, it is even included in the bill they are pushing.

We have the best health care system in the World, that is why people who can receive “free” health care in their own Country come here for ours, even though, they have to pay for it. That speaks volumes, and of course that is completely pushed under the carpet by obama and those that want to socialize our system.

The number of uninsured Americans are tossed around as another reason for adopting a socialized plan, yet, outside of the cherry picked cases put forth by obama, do you wonder why others are not covered? I know when I was in my early twenties I did not have insurance, and I bet many of the current early twenty some year olds don’t either. Is that a reason to socialize our health care? How about those people that only work part-time?

obama says we have to change the system based on costs of the current system, yet the CBO says under the current bill being debated, the costs will be much more. We simply can’t afford to insure everyone(and of course, his bill won’t even do that in the first place). We simply cannot afford this type of plan, our deficit is already out of control. The “rich” cannot be taxed anymore, people are going to not want to work just to give more money to the Government. Small businesses are going to not hire people if they are only going to have to pay more. Right now is not the time to stop job growth.

Finally, why the rush to get this bill passed? obama realizes he has only a short time to push through another crappy bill(recall the “stimulus” package had to be passed or otherwise, and how is that working out?) before people start to wake up to see just how duped they were by him. This is a serious issue, and he feels it only needs weeks to debate it.

Pat, a “mature” society would be one that values and protects personal property and avoids state sponsored theft as a means to buy votes.

I’ll say it again. To fix health-care in this country we must reduce or eliminate government intervention in the market, not increase it.

If you think you’ll be “sticking it to the rich” to fund universal health-care then you’ve got a big surprise coming.

If a person living in Virginia and loses his/her job and health insurance, and either finishes with or can’t get COBRA, *and* has a pre-existing condition, they are basically screwed. Other states have provisions Virginia lacks. It is terrifying to think that a person under 65 with cancer or another serious disease would have to bankrupt him/herself completely in order to qualify for aid. How can we have a system that almost always goes through the employer for the vast majority of Americans, but never requires an employer to offer insurance?

We could pull the plug on the war tomorrow. Health insurance is another issue just like social security and medicare I know that we need to do something about it. This government run health insurance is not the same as healthcare. The only insurance we will have is the insurance the care will be rationed.

I want to see a system similar to how we buy car insurance. Get the health insurance companies selling directly to the customer not the employers. There are people smarter than me who I am sure can figure a fair affordable way to do this. Just handing over our lives to the likes of Obama (baby on a shelf to die) and Barney Frank (prostitution ring from town house) and Ted Kennedy doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.

I have family members under the health plan in Britain. It isn’t good. Being pregnant and never seeing a doctor isn’t a good thing. Especially if you have complications on the day of delivery. That is the kind of rationing they do over there. I am not prepared for that kind of rationing it is dangerous and that is what we are going to get if we do it here.

sadhman,
Remember to remind your children of one thing - Iraq Way - they will be paying that for a long time too.

I have personally seen a few families face financial ruin, because the main earner has come down with cancer - it is not a happy sight when you see the college fund get spent, the retirement get spent, and other expenses, and then witness the death of the person - and this is while they have insurance. And these people had good paying jobs, and contributed to society.