Comments on: Open Thread http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Thu, 24 May 2012 17:26:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Tom Andrews http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88637 Tom Andrews Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:12:57 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88637 I said, " Jose Legal finds himself in the same spot as Joe Legal" I said, ” Jose Legal finds himself in the same spot as Joe Legal”

]]> By: A PW County Resident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88494 A PW County Resident Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:38:08 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88494 Actually, you said "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Actually, you said “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”.

]]> By: Tom Andrews http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88493 Tom Andrews Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:38:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88493 I think you misread my post. I mentioned Jose "LEGAL" of which there are many in this country. The people who have followed the process and obeyed the law should be just as bent out of shape as natural born citizens. I think you misread my post. I mentioned Jose “LEGAL” of which there are many in this country. The people who have followed the process and obeyed the law should be just as bent out of shape as natural born citizens.

]]> By: Johnson http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88492 Johnson Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:56:36 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88492 They are thieves and criminals. Deport them all. They are thieves and criminals. Deport them all.

]]> By: OnlyTraitorsHireIllegals http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88490 OnlyTraitorsHireIllegals Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:22:59 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88490 Of course he is bent out of shape. He thinks that because he took pains to violate the soveignty of our country by stuffing himself in the back of a van, or by wading across the river, or by hiking through the desert, this country owes him, his esposa, his kids, his aunts, his uncles, his grandmothers, his grandfathers, his neices and nephews, and of course all his cousins and in-laws, access to our educational system, our social welfare system, a job, your neighborhood, your accumulated family and community wealth, etc. And when you have a plethora of liberal organizations and sniveling fat broads telling him over and over that he's entitled to all that, he begins to believe it. Of course he is bent out of shape. He thinks that because he took pains to violate the soveignty of our country by stuffing himself in the back of a van, or by wading across the river, or by hiking through the desert, this country owes him, his esposa, his kids, his aunts, his uncles, his grandmothers, his grandfathers, his neices and nephews, and of course all his cousins and in-laws, access to our educational system, our social welfare system, a job, your neighborhood, your accumulated family and community wealth, etc. And when you have a plethora of liberal organizations and sniveling fat broads telling him over and over that he’s entitled to all that, he begins to believe it.

]]> By: Tom Andrews http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88480 Tom Andrews Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:59:14 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88480 I don't disagree with the premise of your example however I think it's a very important point to make that Jose Legal finds himself in the same spot as Joe Legal and should really be bent out of shape about the whole situation. I don’t disagree with the premise of your example however I think it’s a very important point to make that Jose Legal finds himself in the same spot as Joe Legal and should really be bent out of shape about the whole situation.

]]> By: OnlyTraitorsHireIllegals http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88474 OnlyTraitorsHireIllegals Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:51:22 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88474 Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the United States . Try to follow along. You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .. Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted. Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table". Ready? Now pay attention. Joe Legal: $25..00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00. Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600..00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00. Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legalnow has $24,031.00. Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00. Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00. Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00. Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year... Joe Legal now has $9,631.00. Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00. Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now w has $7,231.00. Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $25,200.00. Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc. Jose Illegal has to make his $25,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month. Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal'schildren get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home. Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay. Do you get it, now? If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens... You are part of the problem! It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans! Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the United States . Try to follow along.

You have two families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”. Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California ..

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.

Ready? Now pay attention.

Joe Legal:
$25..00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose Illegal:
$15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600..00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legalnow has $24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year… Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal

now w has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and still has $25,200.00.

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

Jose Illegal has to make his $25,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’schildren get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal’s children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Do you get it, now?

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens…

You are part of the problem!

It’s way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify???) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88469 The Patriot (Got E-Verify???) Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:41:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88469 No Amnesty, No Pathway to Citizenship, No Dream Act, No ANYTHING for illegal aliens. Also, deport anyone who harbors or aids and abets illegal aliens. Get it, got it, GOOD! No Amnesty, No Pathway to Citizenship, No Dream Act, No ANYTHING for illegal aliens. Also, deport anyone who harbors or aids and abets illegal aliens. Get it, got it, GOOD!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88465 Anonymous Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:12:26 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88465 I hear at the Anti site that the sign guy is back at it. Have to stop by tomorrow to see what's up. I hear at the Anti site that the sign guy is back at it. Have to stop by tomorrow to see what’s up.

]]> By: Old Soldier http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88458 Old Soldier Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:49:55 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88458 citizenofmanassas' My post "is what it is." I gave no opinion on McDonnall's position. His thesis is a convenient example of a special interest group attempting to influence public policy through social and judicial changes. I'm not sure why you see McDonnall's thesis as having some link to Terrorism; however, that was clearly not my intent. Suggest you re-read my post. I said at the end that there is nothing wrong with nothing wrong with groups using peaceful means to influence our Government. You know, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... citizenofmanassas’

My post “is what it is.” I gave no opinion on McDonnall’s position. His thesis is a convenient example of a special interest group attempting to influence public policy through social and judicial changes. I’m not sure why you see McDonnall’s thesis as having some link to Terrorism; however, that was clearly not my intent.

Suggest you re-read my post. I said at the end that there is nothing wrong with nothing wrong with groups using peaceful means to influence our Government.

You know, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar…

]]> By: Johnson http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88457 Johnson Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:55:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88457 I hope this organization implodes. They are rotten to the core. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/28/bank-america-pulls-acorn-work/ I hope this organization implodes. They are rotten to the core.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/28/bank-america-pulls-acorn-work/

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88456 Big Dog Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:32:53 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88456 A high-powered way to appeal to supporters? Dean Allen, a candidate for South Carolina's Adjutant General, held a "Machine Gun Social" at his Greenville shooting range. For $25 donors were given a barbeque lunch and twenty shots with a machine gun. A drawing determined the winner of a semi-automatic AK-47 valued at $700. Allen advocates bringing home the SC National Guard from Afganistan to address the issue of illegal immigration. A high-powered way to appeal to supporters?

Dean Allen, a candidate for South Carolina’s Adjutant General,
held a “Machine Gun Social” at his Greenville shooting range.
For $25 donors were given a barbeque lunch and twenty shots
with a machine gun. A drawing determined the winner of a
semi-automatic AK-47 valued at $700.

Allen advocates bringing home the SC National Guard from
Afganistan to address the issue of illegal immigration.

]]> By: Johnson http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88455 Johnson Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:26:50 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88455 http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-op_cuccinelli_0927sep27,0,5255783.story Go Ken! http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-op_cuccinelli_0927sep27,0,5255783.story

Go Ken!

]]> By: Johnson http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88454 Johnson Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:13:27 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88454 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/27/liberals-seek-health-care-access-illegals/ As if the Dems aren't unpopular enough. How many Dems does it take to p!$$ EVERYBODY off? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/27/liberals-seek-health-care-access-illegals/

As if the Dems aren’t unpopular enough. How many Dems does it take to p!$$ EVERYBODY off?

]]> By: citizenofmanassas http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88451 citizenofmanassas Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:33:42 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88451 Old solder, Care to explain a bit more. After reading your post it seems you are equating terrorists to a college thesis? Is that really what you want to do? Did you know that Deeds did not favor special rights for gays only ten years ago? That many of the stands that McDonnell has on abortion, was shared by many in the General Assembly. If you read the linked COMPOST article, you'll see many of his views are shared by many in the GA. He is by no means out of the mainstream, no matter how Deeds and the libs try to spin it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/26/AR2009092602516.html Old solder,

Care to explain a bit more. After reading your post it seems you are equating terrorists to a college thesis? Is that really what you want to do?

Did you know that Deeds did not favor special rights for gays only ten years ago? That many of the stands that McDonnell has on abortion, was shared by many in the General Assembly. If you read the linked COMPOST article, you’ll see many of his views are shared by many in the GA. He is by no means out of the mainstream, no matter how Deeds and the libs try to spin it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/26/AR2009092602516.html

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88443 Anonymous Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:13:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88443 smurf said on 27 Sep 2009 at 11:27 am: Flag comment what a fine example of parenthood that hispanic gent was! It’s a great thing the child welfare folks stepped in to rescue the kid. Yep! They only come here to care for their families (and party etc. etc. etc.) Wonder if we will ever hear the outcome of his court case and what happened to the kiddo. The guy should be charged with child endangerment and sent to prision. A lot of his "amigos" would show him how to "party." smurf said on 27 Sep 2009 at 11:27 am: Flag comment

what a fine example of parenthood that hispanic gent was! It’s a great thing the child welfare folks stepped in to rescue the kid.

Yep! They only come here to care for their families (and party etc. etc. etc.) Wonder if we will ever hear the outcome of his court case and what happened to the kiddo. The guy should be charged with child endangerment and sent to prision. A lot of his “amigos” would show him how to “party.”

]]> By: smurf http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88440 smurf Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:27:32 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88440 what a fine example of parenthood that hispanic gent was! It's a great thing the child welfare folks stepped in to rescue the kid. what a fine example of parenthood that hispanic gent was! It’s a great thing the child welfare folks stepped in to rescue the kid.

]]> By: Old Soldier http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88439 Old Soldier Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:01:59 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88439 InTheNavy, Ironically you described what Christian Conservatives are also attempting to do. They are also attempting to impose Christian Conservative values on the entire Country through social and judicial changes in order to ensure that all Citizens of the United States are forced to accommodate their beliefs. McDonnell’s college thesis demonstrates a case in point (a roadmap for imposing Conservative Christian values on the state of Virginia through the political process). So... what's the difference? Frankly, I see nothing wrong with groups using peaceful means to influence our Government whether they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Secular Humanists, or whatever. Such is the nature of our Democracy. Our size and diversity are what makes this mix work. InTheNavy, Ironically you described what Christian Conservatives are also attempting to do. They are also attempting to impose Christian Conservative values on the entire Country through social and judicial changes in order to ensure that all Citizens of the United States are forced to accommodate their beliefs. McDonnell’s college thesis demonstrates a case in point (a roadmap for imposing Conservative Christian values on the state of Virginia through the political process). So… what’s the difference?

Frankly, I see nothing wrong with groups using peaceful means to influence our Government whether they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Secular Humanists, or whatever. Such is the nature of our Democracy. Our size and diversity are what makes this mix work.

]]> By: es_la_ley http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88436 es_la_ley Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:44:44 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88436 Dave in PWC said on 25 Sep 2009 at 7:10 am: <i>Don’t know about any attacks, but there was a POS who sounds like an illegal alien who went clubbing and left his 6 month old baby home alone.</i> Link to article here... http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/article/police_dad_leaves_infant_at_home_and_goes_clubbing/43969/#comments Dave in PWC said on 25 Sep 2009 at 7:10 am:

Don’t know about any attacks, but there was a POS who sounds like an illegal alien who went clubbing and left his 6 month old baby home alone.

Link to article here…

http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/article/police_dad_leaves_infant_at_home_and_goes_clubbing/43969/#comments

]]> By: ... http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88435 ... Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:54:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2009/09/22/open-thread-43/#comment-88435 "When are the investigations going to start in PWC, Manassas City and Manassas Park." When Paul Ebert can find his butt with two hands. “When are the investigations going to start in PWC, Manassas City and Manassas Park.”

When Paul Ebert can find his butt with two hands.

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