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HOA vs. Medal Of Honor Recipient

By Greg L | 3 December 2009 | Patriotism | 44 Comments

This HOA couldn’t have inflicted a more serious self-inflicted head wound had it decided to hold a puppy barbequeue in the community commons.  Unbelievable.



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44 Comments

  1. anon said on 3 Dec 2009 at 12:18 pm:
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    It’s about the pole, not the flag. His flag pole request was rejected and he moved in there knowing the rules. He could still put up a flag. That said, if it doesn’t make noise or shine bright lights at night, I could care less what my neighbors do on their property. HOAs and Condo Associations are usually run by control freaks. There should be a way that owners can vote to disband them altogether when they get out of control.

  2. mnd said on 3 Dec 2009 at 12:48 pm:
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    Not sure what the outrage is about.

    He’s setting a poor example by failing to abide by his word. He agreed to be bound by the rules of the HOA and should honor those rules.

  3. Riley said on 3 Dec 2009 at 1:17 pm:
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    I have to agree with the previous two comments here. When you move in an HOA neighborhood, it is the law that before you even buy that you be provided with all the bylaws, covenants and rules that you are expected to follow. That way if you don’t like something, you are made aware of it beforehand and you can look elsewhere.

    If the HOA changed the rules after he put up the pole, then it should have been grandfathered in. But if he put up the pole in violation of the rules, then he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. If he doesn’t like the rule, then he can move someplace where they don’t have that rule.

    I, as others most certainly do, respect and honor his service. But that service does not give him the right to do as he pleases when he has entered into a contract with other homeowners to abide by set guidelines.

    I live in an HOA and have served on its board for nearly 7 years now, 6 of them as its president. We’re pretty laid back and willing to work with residents while also keeping up the appearances of the neighborhood so as to maintain or increase property values. (I guess we’re the exception to the “control freaks” rule since we have a fairly young Board.) Such free-standing flag poles are not permitted in our HOA and that is something that even the Board can’t change since it is not in our design guidelines (which we can change by a simple majority vote of the Board), but in our bylaws which can only be changed by a majority of ALL residents voting in favor of the change (not all voting residents — ALL residents.)

  4. A PW County Resident said on 3 Dec 2009 at 2:06 pm:
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    As I understood it, there is no mention of flagpoles in the covenants. This was an decision which could have gone the other way as an approval just as easily as a prohibition. The HOA chose to deny it.

  5. Old Soldier said on 3 Dec 2009 at 3:32 pm:
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    **** the Homeowner’s association. Make an exception for a Medal of Honor winner and “to hell” with the whiners. Rules are for people who don’t recognize the right thing to do when they see it. The right thing to do here is obvious. In the military, we had an endearing term for folks who never saw combat and spent their time enforcing and obcessing over the rules. Who remembers REMF?

    Thanks for sharing this, Greg. Any intel on how to contact the Homeowner’s association to let them know what a bunch of asses they are?

  6. Greg L said on 3 Dec 2009 at 3:41 pm:
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    Here’s Barfoot’s citation for the Medal of Honor. Is anyone in their right mind going to harass a guy like this over whether he wants to fly the American Flag?

    For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty on 23 May 1944, near Carano, Italy. With his platoon heavily engaged during an assault against forces well entrenched on commanding ground, 2d Lt. Barfoot (then Tech. Sgt.) moved off alone upon the enemy left flank. He crawled to the proximity of 1 machinegun nest and made a direct hit on it with a hand grenade, killing 2 and wounding 3 Germans. He continued along the German defense line to another machinegun emplacement, and with his tommygun killed 2 and captured 3 soldiers. Members of another enemy machinegun crew then abandoned their position and gave themselves up to Sgt. Barfoot. Leaving the prisoners for his support squad to pick up, he proceeded to mop up positions in the immediate area, capturing more prisoners and bringing his total count to 17. Later that day, after he had reorganized his men and consolidated the newly captured ground, the enemy launched a fierce armored counterattack directly at his platoon positions. Securing a bazooka, Sgt. Barfoot took up an exposed position directly in front of 3 advancing Mark VI tanks. From a distance of 75 yards his first shot destroyed the track of the leading tank, effectively disabling it, while the other 2 changed direction toward the flank. As the crew of the disabled tank dismounted, Sgt. Barfoot killed 3 of them with his tommygun. He continued onward into enemy terrain and destroyed a recently abandoned German fieldpiece with a demolition charge placed in the breech. While returning to his platoon position, Sgt. Barfoot, though greatly fatigued by his Herculean efforts, assisted 2 of his seriously wounded men 1,700 yards to a position of safety. Sgt. Barfoot’s extraordinary heroism, demonstration of magnificent valor, and aggressive determination in the face of pointblank fire are a perpetual inspiration to his fellow soldiers.

  7. Old Soldier said on 3 Dec 2009 at 3:52 pm:
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    This guy should be considered a “made man” who can hang a flag any damn place he pleases. The sad reality is that he won’t be a problem forever… he’s 90 years old… leave him alone. Messing with a Medal of Honor winner in his twilight years is just… well… downright unpatriotic. Don’t bother quoting the homeowner’s association manual to me… you (who care about its rules in this case) can… well… you know where to put it.

    It’s customary to salute Medal of Honor winners regardless of grade. Colonel Col. Van T. Barfoot, I salute you, sir!

  8. Dave Core said on 3 Dec 2009 at 3:54 pm:
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    In this situation the board should repeal the flagpole restriction or state that the flagpole restrictions does not apply to flying the U.S. Flag (Stars and Stripes only) and Col. Barfoot should pay a token fine for violating the HOA covenant. And then he leaves the pole and everyone moves on.

  9. Dave Core said on 3 Dec 2009 at 3:57 pm:
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    Including the flag of the Commonwealth (Sic Semper Tyrannis) and the flag of the County or City in which he resides.

  10. Truth to Power said on 3 Dec 2009 at 4:04 pm:
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    I read the article in the Richmond Times with utter amazement. I have seen this kind of HOA enforcement tried all over the United States. I have been a member of several HOAs\’s in my life time and am always in wonder as to what HOA boards are thinking when they try to use excessive force like this.

    I am certain that precedent can be found where this kind of ruling has been overturned in favor of the accused violator.

    Col. Barfoot is 90 years old, a true hero of our country. I’m sure this would cost too much money for him to fight this in court. The HOA board should be ashamed of themselves for dishonoring him like this.

    How can a flagpole be considered :not aesthetically appropriate”? This is just another case of power being in the hands of people will small minds and little else to occupy their hands.

    I hope the members of the General Assembly will finally change the Code of Virginia and require HOAs to follow the same open meeting and FOIA rules as other elected boards.

  11. Robert L. Duecaster said on 3 Dec 2009 at 4:27 pm:
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    I wonder how many supporters Colonel Barfoot (whom I thank for his service) would have if he chose to fly the Confederate Battle Flag.

    What if he were an illegal alien and chose to fly a Mexican (or Honduran, or Nicaraguan, or Zapatista) flag? Would you support his choice?

    How does flying the US flag on a 21 foot pole in a townhouse/condo setting differ from Senor Fernandez’ display of an oversized sign in Manassas? Do we judge them by the content of the display and the number of people the display offends (i.e., by the Rule of People), or do we judge them by objective standards that apply to everyone (i.e., by the Rule of Law)?

    In my opinion, the fact that Colonel Barfoot likes to fly the US flag (as I do), is a retired soldier (as I am), was awarded the MoH (unlike myself), and is 90 years old (sometimes I feel like it), are all irrelevant facts. The fact that there is a restriction against flagpoles in the community is relevant. Display of any flag is a statement. That statement is protected by the 1st Amendment. But that protection is subject to reasonable limitations. Making a statement from a 21 foot flagpole in a townhouse community is a bit too intrusive on other neighbors. My bet is the good Colonel just wants to make that intrusion prior to checking out.

  12. Old Soldier said on 3 Dec 2009 at 4:28 pm:
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    You know, “do nothing” is always an option. People always feel compelled to “do something”. The HOA should simply drop the issue and advise the Colonel that it plans to “do nothing”.

    If there’s a gentlemen in charge of this HOA, a letter of apology and recognition of the Colonel’s service would be a nice touch. I fled a HOA in Woodbridge to live in a non-HOA neighborhood because of things such as this. A little power is a dangerous thing. People think they must constantly exercise it when “doing nothing” is really the better option. Unless someone complains about something, “doing nothing” is the way to go.

    Frankly, the honorable thing would be for the person (I would have preferred a more colorful term; however, I feared censorship) on the HOA BOD who dreamed this up would be to resign.

  13. USN 69-73 said on 3 Dec 2009 at 5:23 pm:
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    I believe that I read that several people in the neighborhood have stated that they support 90-year-old retired Army Col. Van T. Barfoot, and believe that he should be allowed to keep the pole & fly his flag. The thing for all of the supporters to do would be to go out into their front yards right now and put up their own flag pole to show their true support. Then tell the HOA idiots to bow down and kiss the ground that Col. Barfoot walks on. If it wasn’t for the many men like him in his day, and the Armed Forces of today, they wouldn’t have a pot to piss in.

  14. Groveton said on 3 Dec 2009 at 9:17 pm:
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    He should build his flag pole. He should fly the flag. He should keep a loaded gun handy. If anybody tries to take down his flag pole he should shoot them. Then, he should hope that I am on the jury.

  15. Old Soldier said on 3 Dec 2009 at 11:23 pm:
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    USN69-73 & Groveton, I like the way you guys think!

  16. Howard the Duck said on 4 Dec 2009 at 12:30 am:
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    It’s not always easy to find a non-HOA neighborhood to live in, there are so many of them. So I can’t agree with the notion he knew the rules and that makes it ok. I live in a non-HOA community and guess what? We solve most problems between ourselves like Americans. We don’t concern ourselves with petty things like clothes lines and tv antennas. Flag poles are not a problem. Also please don’t throw the Confederate Battle Flag in with those others. This is Virginia ya know?

  17. DPortM said on 4 Dec 2009 at 6:49 am:
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    Mark Levin is on the case. Check out his December 2, 2009 podcast at approximately 16 minutes into the program.

    “The infantry is coming” and Mark Levin is it!

    http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930#

  18. Pat.Herve said on 4 Dec 2009 at 9:01 am:
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    so, we are saying that the HOA should not enforce the rules, because, Why? Oh, we want to bend the rules because this is something that we think it right…. Well, then, change the rules, and obey the rules.

    The Rule Of Law that is pushed around - follow the rules that we want you to follow but disobey the rules that we disagree with?

    Should he be allowed to fly his (our) Flag? - Yes, by all means Yes - I Fly Old Glory! But, he should be following the rules - is that not what we want - and if the community disagrees with the rules, well, change them.

    Just like the Sign in Manassas….. Oh, but many of us agree that that sign should be torn down.

    And a credit to the Medal of Honor Hero - he still has some fight in him - I am glad he was on our side.

  19. Old Soldier said on 4 Dec 2009 at 12:07 pm:
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    You know, it’s ironic that our very existence as a Country is the result of a violation of the rule of law. We revolted against our lawful empowered Government over a disagreement about tax policy (and other issues). We tend to ignore laws that are not just, don’t make sense, or are just plain stupid. Some people believe (I am among them) that we have an obligation to engage in civil disobedience. The civil rights movement and the woman’s right to vote movement are examples (although there are many more). We also have a history of just ignoring the really stupid or ill-conceived rules. Prohibition comes to mind. More recently, a movement to legalize marihuana to recognize its place in our society (and the millions of users) is a good example.

    The HOA’s position regarding the Colonel and his flag are (IMHO) a really prime example of a “stupid” rule and should be ignored. As I understand it, no HOA rule actually forbids flag poles. That puts us in that really gray and discretionary area of the application of rules that I find particularly obnoxious.

    Fly your flay, Colonel! The court of public opinion is with you. And God Bless those brave souls who engage in civil disobedience to eliminate unjust laws.

  20. Some Dude said on 4 Dec 2009 at 12:16 pm:
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    The HOA was right to send him a letter demanding it come down. But if he ignores it, the HOA should just drop the issue. I’m on the board of our HOA and that’s likely what we’d do.

  21. Pat.Herve said on 4 Dec 2009 at 2:34 pm:
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    Some Dude - if that is what your HOA is going to do, then what is the use of an HOA that does not enforce it owns rules -

    If you do not enforce all the rules equally, you cannot enforce any of the rules.

  22. Hazegray said on 4 Dec 2009 at 3:54 pm:
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    “What if he were an illegal alien and chose to fly a Mexican (or Honduran, or Nicaraguan, or Zapatista) flag? Would you support his choice?”

    No, I would NOT. If he were an illegal alien he is breaking our immigration laws simply by being here and has not earned any of the routine rights of a citizen, much less the deference owed a Medal of Honor awardee. The only right I’d support for a lawbreaking illegal alien is the right to leave our country and go back to his….

  23. Robert L. Duecaster said on 4 Dec 2009 at 4:29 pm:
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    Wrongo, Hazegray. Although we share the same sentiments about the deleterious effects of the Illegal Invasion, the 14th amendment to the constitution gives equal protection of the laws to anyone within the borders of the US, regardless of status. That’s all one has to do to acquire constitutional rights - be here. That’s why it’s such folly for the Chosen One to close down Gitmo and bring terrorists here.

    So you would allow the good Colonel to offend his neighbors with a 3 story tall flag pole, but deny the same to an illegal alien because, in your opinion, the IA has not “earned” any routine rights. Fair enough. You’re argument is not supported in law, but it’s the way you perceive things should be.

    What about me? I’m just a run of the mill veteran. I’ve got a few IBT (I been there) medals, parachutist badge, ranger tab, and a couple of combat zone service stripes to my credit, but that’s about it. Would you allow me to erect a three story tall flag pole in my townhouse development and fly a 7 x 9 flag that snaps like a rifle shot every time a breeze blows up? Would it make a difference if it was a coiled snake flag that said, “Don’t tread on me?” What about the Confederate Battle Flag? Could I fly that? What about one that said, “Just tax the fat ones?” What about an upside-down US flag? I’m sure I could find something offensive enough that you would want me to take it down.

    My point is, that our country’s strength lies in the equal application of its laws. A person’s status, no matter how meritorious, should not be an excuse for relaxing adherence to those laws. Just as in the Illegal Aliens’ case, they should be denied entrance to the country or deported if found here, regardless of how hard working, or honest, or tax paying they are. Their status as all round good folks does not vitiate the fact that they are here illegally and should leave.

    I believe the good Colonel and his daughter are just basking in their moment of media attention. If he wants a 3 story flagpole, he should buy enough land so that he can erect one where it does not adversely effect his neighbors’ enjoyment of their property. Or he should make his statement in a less intrusive manner, as most of the rest of us do.

  24. Anonymous said on 4 Dec 2009 at 6:27 pm:
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    Putting a flag pole in the common area in violation of the rules is OK as long as it seems right???

  25. anonymous said on 4 Dec 2009 at 7:30 pm:
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    Here is some info that his MOH citation does not tell you.

    (From the book Medal of Honor he is on page 16).

    Later is his life Van Barfoot would be hailed as one of the most significant Native American heroes of WW2.

    He took part in the landings at Sicily and Salerno and Anzio

    In May of 1944 Barfoot’s unit was in a defensive position near Carano, during which Barfoot conducted day and night patrols to probe the German lines, mentally mapping out the terrain and minefields in front of the enemy positions.

    On May 23rd his company was ordered to attack. As the lead squads approached the German minefields, they came under heavy fire. Because he knew the lanes through the minefields so well, Barfoot asked for permission to head a squad….

    He was given the option the choice of returning to the States for the ceremony or receiving the medal in the field, he chose the latter so that his men could be present.

    Lt General Alexander Patch awarded him the medal in Epinal France on Sept. 28th 1944.

  26. cdubbs said on 4 Dec 2009 at 8:38 pm:
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    You know what? Rule of Law? When the Federal Government deports all the illegal aliens like it is supposed to do, puts all the tax cheat politicians behind bars, puts the terrorists in front of military tribunals, has hearings on the Ft. Hood massacre and climategate, and repeals Kelo, then maybe, just maybe I might see my way clear to thinking that the HOA might have a point about a lone flag pole. You can fix a lot of potholes and reseed a lot of common space with the money they are spending on retaining lawyers for this. If it is in the rules, all the people who voted for “hope and change” ought to be backing this guy if for no other reason than wanting to change things. For the rest of us MOH trumps HOA any day of the week.

  27. Old Soldier said on 4 Dec 2009 at 9:21 pm:
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    RLD,

    Following your logic, we wouldn’t be a Country or a have a Constitution because a revolution was a violation of the rule of law.

    I’m guessing you would have been with the Brits of the time who were for the rule of law and against the revolution.

  28. Raymond Beverage said on 4 Dec 2009 at 10:19 pm:
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    Well, since the rule of the land is in the U.S. Code, and the US Flag is in Title 4 which stipulates the when, where, and how it can be displayed…and the only person who is authorized under law to change that when, where and how is the President of the United States (as in ordering half-mast), seems to me the HOA is in violation of Federal Law.

    No Commonwealth/State/Territory/District can overide that law - and no individual or group of citizens can either. One of the things that turned me off to HOAs was my intent 15 years ago when I bought my house in Manassas was to run up the Colors in my front yard since I served 18 years as a Marine Brat, then 23 years in the Army earning my way from one mosquito wing, to three up & three down.

    What kills me is when an HOA considers a free-standing flag pole in the same category of somebody putting pink flamingos in the yard! Those boards forget their PRIVILEDGE to make rules - not a RIGHT nor LAW - is because the Colonel and my fellow Veterans of all Services (to include their families who put up with our call in life) signed on to defend their right…regardless of a shooting war or not.

    Thus endeth the lesson….Master Sergeant (E-8) of 23 years; and 12 years after hanging up the spurs…still standing by my Oath!

  29. zuzu said on 5 Dec 2009 at 12:04 am:
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    I wish I’d been part of the Greatest Generation like Col. Barfoot because this generation, MY generation scares the living hell out of me. I don’t think we’ll see the likes of this country, as it was then, ever again.

  30. Disgusted said on 5 Dec 2009 at 8:18 am:
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    zuzu said on 5 Dec 2009 at 12:04 am:

    “I don’t think we’ll see the likes of this country, as it was then, ever again.”

    In many respects, I don’t want to see it as it was. I don’t want to see the predominant poverty and low education levels preceding WW II. I don’t want to see the open racism and discrimination. I don’t want to the backwards technology in medicine and science. I like where we are and want to keep moving on. It’s getting better!

    What, I think, zuzu wants are examples of selflessness demonstrated by Mr. Barfoot. All one has to do is dig a bit and see that the same dedication is demonstrated every day in Iraq, Afghanistan, and all the other postings of our military. Their professionalism and sacrifice astound me. AND ALL OF THEM VOLUNTEERED!! Our military men and women all had better choices than in Mr. Barfoot’s day, yet they decided to risk it all for our country. Our country is much better today than it ever has been, because of these people and their willingness to volunteer and it will continue to be. Where do you think that spirit came from? Our way of life and society fostered it, warts and all. Don’t let all the fussing you see on this site and all the other similar sites fool you. As I like to say, if it ain’t worth arguing about, it ain’t worth a damn.

  31. Anonymous said on 5 Dec 2009 at 10:23 am:
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    I served, but got lesser medals. Which rules do you think I should be allowed to ignore?

  32. USN 69-73 said on 5 Dec 2009 at 10:39 am:
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    Hey Anonymous
    Dig a hole & plant a pole. Then fly the U.S. Flag, stand back, hand solute, & repeat after me: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

    Parade Rest

    Fall Out

    In God We Trust, and may the Col. fly his flag forever.

  33. Old Soldier said on 5 Dec 2009 at 11:24 am:
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    Anonymous, just ignore the rules that are stupid or don’t make sense and you’ll do just fine.

  34. Anonymous said on 5 Dec 2009 at 12:39 pm:
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    He still appears to be very capable, I think it would be wise to leave him alone and treated with some respect, he surely earned it.

  35. Anonymous said on 5 Dec 2009 at 2:02 pm:
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    Hey USN blah-blah, I took a little more serious oath. Do you remeber that one? Recite it to yourselfm (and you damn well better be at attention just like you were the day you took it). Now tell me which rules I get to ignore.

    Old Soldier have you forgot your training? The rules weren’t put in place for you to negotiate. They were put there for you to obey, just like LAWFUL orders.

    Some of you guys get old and think that the fact we served gives us some special privilege. It doesn’t.

  36. Old Soldier said on 5 Dec 2009 at 3:09 pm:
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    I like to think of rules more as guidelines… if you’re trying to confirm your own beliefs to make yourself feel better, go right ahead. Personally, I really don’t give a damn what you think. You have me confused with someone who cares…

  37. Anonymous said on 5 Dec 2009 at 3:53 pm:
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    My my, aren’t we touchy. Obviously you don’t care. If you did you would have enough sense to know not to advertise that you thnik rules apply to everyone else, but maybe not so much to you. I don’t need to confirm my beliefs with people like you. Especally since you pretty much are admitting you are one of the old guys I was talking about.

    “Guidlines” lol

  38. Ray B. said on 5 Dec 2009 at 4:03 pm:
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    Actually, in terms of rules - every HOA or other entity that dictates how the Flag of the United States of America is to be flown or not to be flown is in violation of US Code Title 4…and that Title clearly says only, repeat only, the President of the United States can set different rules (i.e. when to fly at half-mast). The Colonel could make a case in the Federal Circuit Court in Richmond and win on that one short Title alone.

    Personally, I find it silly as hell HOAs place a flag pole & flag being used properly under the Law of the Land in the same nuisance category as pink flamingos.

    Still serving to my Oath 11 years into retirement….

  39. Anonymous said on 5 Dec 2009 at 4:32 pm:
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    The HOA can tell you that you CANNOT fly it on property you don’t own. The Colonel wouldn’t even get into court.

  40. Citizen12 said on 5 Dec 2009 at 5:57 pm:
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    Ahhhh the HOA …..

    “Unlike a municipal government, homeowner association governance is not subject to the constitutional constraints that public government must abide by.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association

    HOA Rules: What You Must Know About Flag Restrictions
    July 2008

    http://www.hoaleader.com/public/139.cfm

  41. Groveton said on 6 Dec 2009 at 8:52 am:
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    While I support Col. Barfoot, this seems like another one of those questions of political philosophy. Presumably, the Col Barfoot bought his home after the rules were written. On first blush, you would think that conservatives would think that rules are rules and you have to follow the rules. However, Col Barfoot is reputed to be the most decorated American war verteran still alive with a Medal of Honor on top of a long list of commendations. And he’s 90. So, good hearted conservatives say, “the rules can be suspended in this case”.

    Oddly, that’s roughly the same thought that Gov. Kaine has ….. http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/state_regional_govtpolitics/article/kaine_backs_barfoot_in_flagpole_dispute/309537/

    In my opinion, this is another case where the Common Sense Party trumps the pure ideology of either the conservative or liberal cause.

    People with physical challenges are accorded some special priveleges like special parking spaces. You have to provide those spaces whether the parking lot is owned by the state or private enterprise. This is proper and appropriate. I support letting Congressional Medal of Honor recipients build free standing flag poles even if it violates HOA restrictions. Some classes of citizens deserve special rights. Physically challenged citizens should be helped by the rest of society even if it involves a very minor inconvienience to the rest of society. Ditto CMH winners. Col. Barfoot earned the right to create what some residents of Henrico County eveidently consider an eyesore - a flag pole flying an American flag.

  42. KBlowhard Watchdog said on 6 Dec 2009 at 9:45 pm:
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    I’ve been following this story - the Col.’s son in law has been in contact with a local radio station about the story. The argument isn’t about the flag, it’s about the flagpole. The HOA has said that if he were to put the flag on a pole that is attached to the house, it’s not an issue. Col. Barfoot HAD received permission to erect the flagpole before he moved into the development, but he became unable to move into the development. When he did move into the development, he assumed that he still had permission of the HOA and erected the flagpole.

    The flagpole is one that will not make noise, which was the primary concern of the HOA according to the son in law. The ENTIRE community, less the members of the HOA board, stand behind Col. Barfoot.

    This vet deserves to be allowed to keep his flagpole up. My question is - if the board was willing to grant him permission previously, what happened? Change of board members? Does it matter? This gentlemen deserves to live the rest of his life by going out every morning and raising the flag he fought so hard to defend. And if these stuffy HOA members have their heads so far up their a$$ that this is all they have to be worried about, they need to rethink their priorities.

  43. Anonymous said on 7 Dec 2009 at 6:21 am:
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    So Watchdog, having been awarded fewer and less prestigious medals than the Colonel which rules do I get to ignore?

    BTW - you need to get more familiar with HOAs. They tend to be made up of people on power trips and/or retired people with nothing better to do. Personally I would have said let him have the flag pole. It’s a nice touch, but if I have been elected to basically be the law enforcement for and by the community it’s a different story. He put the pole on property he doesn’t own.

  44. Old Soldier said on 9 Dec 2009 at 11:41 am:
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    Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579773,00.html

    Once again, Common sense won out over anal retentive rule freaks.

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