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Open Thread

By Greg L | 10 December 2009 | Uncategorized | 34 Comments

There are lots of things I haven’t had the chance to write about this week that are obvious targets of intense discussion, and this is your chance to start the ball rolling.  From the nutcase who failed to shoot his teacher at NVCC with a Marlin 30.06 and had it jam on the third round, to the School Board seeking applicants for the Neabsco seat, to carbon dioxide being designated by the EPA as a pollutant they will now regulate, and tonight’s meeting of the Manassas City Council to consider changes to the ordinances that regulate signage, there’s no shortage of issues for you all to weigh in on…



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34 Comments

  1. Old Soldier said on 10 Dec 2009 at 11:37 am:
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    Regardless of one’s opinion of Obama in general or the many issues facing Congress and our Country, I believe he represented the interests of the United States and its citizens well in Oslo. Outstanding speech!

  2. not apathetic anymore said on 10 Dec 2009 at 11:45 am:
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    I noticed Monday that the Coverstone 7-11 has once again become a premier labor source. Good job PWPD.

  3. Citizen12 said on 10 Dec 2009 at 3:05 pm:
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    Senator: Virginia medal recipient can keep his flagpole

    The Associated Press
    © December 9, 2009
    RICHMOND

    http://hamptonroads.com/2009/12/senator-virginia-medal-recipient-can-keep-his-flagpole

  4. Robert L. Duecaster said on 10 Dec 2009 at 4:06 pm:
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    I’ve got to agree with you on the speech given by the Obamster, Old Soldier. He rubbed the noses of the Jihadists in the dung heap of the “holy war” idea.

  5. Jonathan Way said on 10 Dec 2009 at 4:26 pm:
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    Now that carbon dioxide is to be regulated as a pollutant, beware of the impending tax on individual exhalation. We might have to wear individual meters which would compute taxes or perhaps even have a shut-off valve to prevent inhalation when there is a risk of excessive pollution.

    There could also be a tax on overweight individuals (Note this is under discussion in Copenhagen) because they use more jet fuel to become airborne. Further, although not part of the Copenhagen initiative, they eat more meat which has a heavy carbon footprint.

    There is no end to the delightful fantasies one can concoct on this subject. Perhaps we should have a competition. If so, I will stick with my exhalation tax.

  6. howmanydaystill elections said on 10 Dec 2009 at 6:41 pm:
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    I think we should all buya horse and buggy to satisfy the gullible global warming fanatics In fact, . I think I’ll buy a stable and rent out rigs. I’m going to make a fortune!

  7. Old Soldier said on 10 Dec 2009 at 7:15 pm:
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    What Robert L. Duecaster said - I’ve got to agree with you on the speech…

    I second that. He accepted the Peace Prize with a speech reminding the rest of the world that it may thank the United States for the last 60 years of peace they enjoyed… at the expense of our citizens blood and sacrifice.

  8. citizenofmanassas said on 10 Dec 2009 at 11:53 pm:
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    He must have sounded a lot like Bush. I bet that really pissed the left off.

  9. Kevin C said on 11 Dec 2009 at 7:13 am:
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    Old Soldier said: “He accepted the Peace Prize with a speech…”

    Has anyone figured out, yet, what he did to DESERVE the Nobel Peace Prize?

    According to Pat Buchanan, the criteria to “EARN” the prize must be submitted by a certain date in FEBRUARY.

    Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and say February 28.

    WHAT did he do between January 20, 2009 and February 28, 2009 to EARN the Nobel Peace Prize?

    As far as I’m concerned, the Nobel Peace Prize has lost ALL of its’ credibility.

  10. Old Soldier said on 11 Dec 2009 at 7:42 am:
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    Kevin C, Since I’m not on the Nobel Committee, I have no vote. He “deserved” the price simply because the Committee, using their process and criteria, decided that he did. Since I’m not a citizen of Norway, I really don’t care about the credibility of the nobel Peace Prize.

    Obama leveraged the opportunity of the award of the “Peace” Price to “rub Europe’s nose” in the fact that they owe their safety, security, and freedom to sixty years of protection by the United States, that we paid if with the blood of our citizens, and that there is a war on and we could use a bit of help.

    You and I can quibble over whether or not he deserves it; however, The point is “moot” because he has it. There are bigger issues to spend our time on. After his speech yesterday, I think he earned the right to put the discussion to bed. Think what you will of his policies… yesterday was a good day for the United States of America.

    Our President “kicked a bit of European butt”!

  11. Robert L. Duecaster said on 11 Dec 2009 at 11:22 am:
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    Roger that, Old Soldier. Yesterday was the first time, since Obama’s inauguration, that I felt our country was being well-represented on the world stage. No apologies for what we are doing or have done. He placed our existence in the context of historical significance and being on the right side of the eternal struggle between good and evil. Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and the rest of the left wing-nuts should learn from his performance. While I disagree with closing Gitmo, even his reference to treating our enemies as we would like to be treated was consistent with that message.

  12. Old Soldier said on 11 Dec 2009 at 11:36 am:
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    Thank you, RLD… I agree on all of your points.

  13. Harry said on 11 Dec 2009 at 1:01 pm:
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    I sent a letter to Delegate-elect Rich Anderson on November 20, 2009, pointing out a massive fraud in the Commonwealth’s child care programs. This fraud is based on an internal audit done by state auditors and finding that 25%+/- of the child care dollars are going to “ghost” children, children not enrolled in day care, with the providrr claiming they were there, additionally children that recieved day care 1 or 2 days/week are billed for the entire week and the state pays. When this was brought to the attention of the Commissioner, he abolished the internal audit division as a budget saving measure. The savings was about $500,000, the amount of the fraud that was discovered was $500,000,000. Unfortuantely I’ ve not heard from Delegate-elect Anderson on this matter. He doesn’t own a day care center does he?

  14. Robert L. Duecaster said on 11 Dec 2009 at 1:50 pm:
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    Harry:

    If you sent an e-mail to his house of delegates address, he may not have gotten it yet, since the House is not yet in session.

    Are you certain of the number $500 million? As Ev Dirksen would say, “That’s real money.” Who is the Commissioner?

  15. Kevin C said on 11 Dec 2009 at 3:11 pm:
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    Harry said: “When this was brought to the attention of the Commissioner, he abolished the internal audit division as a budget saving measure. The savings was about $500,000, the amount of the fraud that was discovered was $500,000,000.”

    So Harry, WHY didn’t you point this out to your buddy Paul F. (three guesses what the “F” stands for) Nickles?

    Obviously it happened on HIS watch!

    Was he too busy BOOZING it up in Richmond or does HE own a day care?

    Seriously Harry, HOW LONG have you been SITTING on this information?

    Half a TRILLION dollars?

    What was Nickles’ cut?

  16. Kevin C said on 11 Dec 2009 at 5:20 pm:
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    Harry said: “When this was brought to the attention of the Commissioner, he abolished the internal audit division as a budget saving measure. The savings was about $500,000, the amount of the fraud that was discovered was $500,000,000.”

    Hey Harry!

    The more I think about your “story” the more I think that what you SHOULD do is not e-mail Rich Anderson but call Channel 9 News!

    IF there’s a HALF-TRILLION dollar FRAUD going on anywhere in Virginia, the Kaine administration should be BOUNCED OUT on their A$$E$ for not catching it!!!!!

    Hell, this is NATIONAL (6:00 evening) news stuff!!!

    Maybe you should call Charles Gibson (ABC News)?

    Really, HOW LONG have you been sitting on this information, Harry?

    HALF a TRILLION DOLLARS????

  17. Kevin C said on 11 Dec 2009 at 7:45 pm:
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    Where’d you go Harry?

    You HIDING?

    What happened?

    You STICK your FOOT in your mouth trying to get a JUMP START on trying to make Rich Anderson look bad?

    WHY did you e-mail the delegate-ELECT and NOT the delegate in power about a HALF-TRILLION dollar FRAUD?

    C’mon Harry, as they say, time to open mouth, CHANGE FOOT!

  18. CharacterCountsKris said on 12 Dec 2009 at 12:16 pm:
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    I agree that President Obama’s speech in Oslo was outstanding. I was surprised that he praised the good work generations before us and American soldiers now, are doing to keep peace and fight evil. Yes, he actually used that word!

  19. Freedom said on 12 Dec 2009 at 3:40 pm:
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    Ya know Harry, they always say that it’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re an idiot rather than open it and remove all doubt.

    In your case, Bud, that same advisory applies to BVBL posts as well! :)

  20. Anonymous said on 12 Dec 2009 at 4:20 pm:
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    howmanydaystill elections said on 10 Dec 2009 at 6:41 pm: Flag comment

    I think we should all buya horse and buggy to satisfy the gullible global warming fanatics In fact, . I think I’ll buy a stable and rent out rigs. I’m going to make a fortune!

    Then be prepared for a methane tax from all that horsesh#t. :)

  21. Anonymous said on 12 Dec 2009 at 4:25 pm:
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    Kevin C said on 11 Dec 2009 at 7:13 am: Flag comment
    As far as I’m concerned, the Nobel Peace Prize has lost ALL of its’ credibility.

    It lost it’s credibility many years ago when it gave it to jimmy carter, the palestine terrorist anwar sadat and al gore.

  22. Anonymous said on 12 Dec 2009 at 4:28 pm:
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    See all the want ads in the area newspapers looking for landscaping help? Offering 8-9 bucks an hour and will provide transport. Wonder who they are targeting?

  23. Freedom said on 12 Dec 2009 at 4:32 pm:
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    Oh, easy answer Anonymous….Gerry Connolly!

  24. CharacterCountsKris said on 12 Dec 2009 at 7:45 pm:
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    I agree with Anonymous that the Nobel Peace Prize “has lost all of its credibility.” It’s just another tool for Liberals to push their agendas. But it was a good speech, all the same.

  25. Bridget said on 12 Dec 2009 at 7:47 pm:
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    Great line:

    “Fortunately, there are still a few right thinking Americans who don’t feel the need to clap like trained seals every time Obama tosses them a sardine in the form of a positive comment about America.”

    http://joytiz.com/2009/bolton-unplugged-on-obamas-nobel-speech/

    He sees his polls on the ropes. He’s pulling a Bill Clinton. Moving to the right (i.e. center) to save his political ass. Oslo Obama was speaking directly to the disillusioned departing independents back home, and them alone.

    And now a little red meat for the left:

    “I did not run for office to be helping out a bunch of fat cat bankers on Wall Street,” Obama said

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2406168/posts

    http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/12/dem-poll-number.html

  26. Kevin C said on 13 Dec 2009 at 1:02 am:
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    Anybody “seen” Harry?

  27. Kevin C said on 13 Dec 2009 at 11:20 am:
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    Harry, C’MON, slink back out of your hiding place !!!

    Don’t you realize you’ve SOLVED the budget shortfall in Virginia for the next FIFTY years?

    Hell, using YOUR math Harry, let’s just say the next FIVE HUNDRED years, maybe a MILLION !!!

    Now, I know your only intention was to make Rich Anderson LOOK bad by saying you e-mailed him about this HALF BILLION dollar fraud you’ve uncovered and he didn’t reply, although I STILL don’t understand why you didn’t e-mail your BUDDY, Paul F. (for FU**STER) Nickles but LOOK at what you’ve actually done.

    You’ve SOLVED the budget problem for the next, hell let’s just make it a, MILLION years!

    Numbers don’t really seem to matter, do they ?

    Anyway, IF what you’re saying is that we spend TWO BILLION tax payer dollars on child care in Virginia (based on the fact that YOU say 25%+/- of the money (fraudulently) spent equals $500,000,000.) then all we have to do is cut child care 25% and we’ll free up a HALF BILLION DOLLARS !!!

    Harry !!!

    You’ve SOLVED the budget problem !!!

    And just think, all you were REALLY trying to do was make Rich Anderson look bad (a MONTH) before he took office !!!

    You think maybe (part of) the reason Nickles LOST the election is because his supporters are BUFFOONS?

    What do you think, Harry?

    Hey Harry!!

    What’d ya think we spend on roads?

    A GAZILLION ???

    Look into it, will ya?

    Thanks.

  28. CharacterCountsKris said on 13 Dec 2009 at 2:25 pm:
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    Bridget,

    I think I needed your reminder about the true nature of the leopard’s spots. The speech DID seem very much out of character for him. You’re right. He was pandering to the Independents back home… and trying to save his falling poll numbers. Someone else here said it, that speech could have been given by former President G.W. Bush, a true protector of America’s best interests.

  29. Ted said on 13 Dec 2009 at 3:19 pm:
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    Rally and lobby your state legislators at the state capitol in support of Bob Marshall’s “Virginia Healthcare Freedom Act” and Bill Carrico’s “Virginia Firearms Freedom Act” on Monday, 18 January.

    There will be buses to take people down to Richmond.

    Details:

    http://va10thamendment.org/

  30. Dave in PWC said on 13 Dec 2009 at 5:53 pm:
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    Since it’s an open thread I’m wondering what happened to the Manassas Park Policeman who was accused to abuse against that lady who worked as a manager at Chipolte who said he beat her? Where did she go? What did the police find when they investigated the alleged beating? Did I miss the news?

  31. KBlowhard Watchdog said on 13 Dec 2009 at 8:54 pm:
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    Here’s one MORE reason not to elect Wally:

    “Posting As Pinko
    December 12th, 2009 at 10:57 | #29
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    Well, if you want to recall the horrors of war, the division the Civil War caused in this country, the personification of soldiers and civilians and deep thoughts alongside quotes and archival photos, I highly recommend my book : ) Part of the proceeds support historic preservation efforts. Buy 11 copies and you get a big discount! Wally Covington bought 11. Smart man!

    http://www.poemsfromthebattlefield.com

    I love the fact that she talks about her “deep thoughts” that she wrote.

  32. Vigilant1 said on 14 Dec 2009 at 11:39 am:
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    Dave in PWC said on 13 Dec 2009 at 5:53 pm: Flag comment

    Since it’s an open thread I’m wondering what happened to the Manassas Park Policeman who was accused to abuse against that lady who worked as a manager at Chipolte who said he beat her? Where did she go? What did the police find when they investigated the alleged beating? Did I miss the news?

    I have asked the same question a number of times and have never received an answer. That story and a number of other similar situations during the past year have never had a follow-up. These situations are reported “hot and heavy” when they supposedly occur and then they die a “quiet death.”

  33. Dave in PWC said on 14 Dec 2009 at 6:18 pm:
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    Vigilant1,

    I also emailed the InsideNova staff with the question a few months ago and was told that they would investigate. Might be time for a letter to the editor to stir things up again…

  34. AWCheney said on 16 Dec 2009 at 5:19 pm:
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    Regarding the carbon dioxide issue, would you happen to know if they are planning on factoring in the fact that CO2 is an important compound in the production of oxygen? Given the intelligence at work on the issue, I’d be quite concerned about that.

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