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Warner and Webb: Harry Reid’s Lap Dogs

By Greg L | 21 December 2009 | National Politics, US Senate | 18 Comments

In the middle of the night the Senate invoked cloture on the massive “manager’s amendment” to the Senate’s health care bill, with Senators Warner and Webb voting to stop the discussion. Although no one has been able to actually see the amendment under consideration, it includes Sen. Harry Reid’s unprecedented payoff to Ben Nelson of Nebraska while will insulate Nebraska, and Nebraska only, from the increased financial burdens medicare expansion will have on states.  Senator Chris Dodd got his special bribe for Connecticut taxpayers, as did Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Bernie Sanders of Vermont, and more outright bribery will likely be uncovered as the amendments become publicly available.  Our Senators from Virginia have gotten nothing in return for their support of ObamaCare, so far.

Massive amendments submitted in the middle of the night by the Democrat majority, and voted on immediately, before anyone can read them.  Democrats calling those concerned about ObamaCare nazis from the floor of the Senate in their desperate effort to ram this bill through.  Billions of dollars in bribes handed out by Harry Reid in order to secure votes, bribes that taxpayers will have to pay just so they can be subjected to a disaster that will immediately raise taxes yet not provide any benefits until after the next presidential election.  Here’s your “hope and change”, America.  May your chains rest lightly upon you.

Anyone thinking that Senators Warner and Webb were anything but shill politicians for hard-left ideologues like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid should be disabused of such fantasy now.  Neither of them have asked why it’s so important to pass 2,000 page plus bills along with hundreds of amendments so quickly, bills that would cut health care services to seniors, massively increase taxes during difficult economic times, and provide taxpayer supported services to illegal aliens.  Instead, they just do exactly what Harry Reid tells them to do.  We don’t have Senators representing Virginia, we have lap dogs serving Harry Reid.

Here’s how the Wall Street Journal views the extraordinary way Democrats are trying to ram this bill through, with a hat tip to From On High:

Mr. Obama promised a new era of transparent good government, yet on Saturday morning Mr. Reid threw out the 2,100-page bill that the world’s greatest deliberative body spent just 17 days debating and replaced it with a new “manager’s amendment” that was stapled together in covert partisan negotiations. Democrats are barely even bothering to pretend to care what’s in it, not that any Senator had the chance to digest it in the 38 hours before the first cloture vote at 1 a.m. this morning. After procedural motions that allow for no amendments, the final vote could come at 9 p.m. on December 24.

The rushed, secretive way that a bill this destructive and unpopular is being forced on the country shows that “reform” has devolved into the raw exercise of political power for the single purpose of permanently expanding the American entitlement state. An increasing roll of leaders in health care and business are looking on aghast at a bill that is so large and convoluted that no one can truly understand it, as Finance Chairman Max Baucus admitted on the floor last week. The only goal is to ram it into law while the political window is still open, and clean up the mess later.

I’d like to see Warner and Webb explain to voter why they’re proud of the way their party has been acting, and why they’re supporting this outrage.

UPDATE: Here’s how one Senator explained his decision to support ObamaCare:

Nice to see that the reasons for ObamaCare according to liberals make so much sense. I’m sure the belief that opponents of the bill (53% of Americans according to recent polling) are all aryan nation militia kooks and that it’s a good idea to kill off the health insurance industry will be promoted as a mainstream consensus by the traditional media outlets, who are doing their best to emulate the glory days of Pravda.

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  1. Anonymous said on 21 Dec 2009 at 11:50 am:
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    While we slept… Anyway, Obama care will turn into a an Obama snare come the next elections. Also, there is no reason for VA getting anything out of the bribes and underhanded deals; why buy the cow when you get the milk free?

  2. REG said on 21 Dec 2009 at 11:53 am:
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    Look’s like Harry has rubbed the ear’s of the Virginia lap dogs in the proper manner; Harry got the votes he was counting on. Finally, we know that Jim Webb has “decided” to vote for the Senate health care bill. This must be such a relief for the poor man, I imagine he has struggled mightily with this decision. Now, the only decision left is for Virginians to decide now to support Senator Webb’s future opponent.

    It sure was strange for Webb to maintain that he had not “decided” how he would vote; only to have Harry counting on his vote the whole time. The only opportunity for a larger personal disgrace for Webb will be for him to follow up last night’s vote to stop debate (cloture), with a “no” vote for the final bill’s passage. Could you imagine that happening?

  3. Truth to Power said on 21 Dec 2009 at 12:40 pm:
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    Warner and Webb need to stop and think about their political futures. Votes have consequences.

  4. Truth to Power said on 21 Dec 2009 at 2:25 pm:
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    December 21, 2009

    The Honorable Mark Warner
    United States Senate
    SDB Building 40C
    Washington, DC 20510

    The Honorable Jim Webb
    United States Senate
    144 Russell Building
    Washington, DC 20510

    RE: Federal Healthcare Reform Legislation

    Dear Senators Warner and Webb:

    I have been following with great interest the important debate currently taking place in Washington with respect to the proposed reform of our nation’s healthcare system.

    While I certainly agree that we face serious problems with respect to the affordability and availability of healthcare for many Americans, it is important that any reform legislation address these issues without creating other problems for American consumers and businesses or jeopardizing the quality of our healthcare delivery system, which is currently the best in the world.

    For many reasons, I strongly oppose the healthcare reform legislation that is currently pending before the United States Senate and I encourage you to vote against this legislation and any procedural votes that would allow this legislation to come to a final vote.
    In my judgment, the legislation currently pending in the Senate will ultimately increase the cost of healthcare and result in higher health insurance premiums and higher taxes for the vast majority of the American people.
    In addition, I believe that this legislation will jeopardize the quality of healthcare that is currently available in our country and take important healthcare decisions out of the hands of consumers and turn these decisions over to government bureaucrats.

    Perhaps most importantly, I am concerned that the cost of this legislation will be much higher than currently estimated, and it will inevitably add significantly to the cost of our federal deficit, which is, quite frankly, out of control and threatens the long term financial viability of our nation.

    If these concerns were not reason enough to vote against this misguided legislation, I am writing to you today to let you know that I am outraged by reports that surfaced this weekend regarding concessions that were made to Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson to secure his vote in support of this legislation.

    As you know, one of our major concerns with this legislation is the potential impact it could have on the cost of Medicaid for Virginia’s state government. Many reports have suggested that this legislation could result in much higher Medicaid costs for state governments across the nation, costs that state governments simply cannot bear.

    Against this background, I was amazed to hear that the Senate’s Democratic leadership had made concessions to Senator Nelson that would hold his home state of Nebraska harmless as to any additional Medicaid costs that might come about as a result of the enrollment of new Medicaid recipients after 2017.

    I find these reports particularly troubling since they come on the heels of similar concessions that were given to Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana to secure her vote in support of this legislation just a few weeks ago.

    In addition to the “pay offs” that were offered to Senators Nelson and Landrieu, unconfirmed media reports over the weekend have revealed that other Senators may have negotiated similar special treatment deals for their states. If these reports are accurate, this type of quid pro quo is unacceptable, and you and your colleagues should object strongly to the practice, which I have no doubt the American people will find offensive as well.

    If the Senate’s leadership is so desperate to obtain votes to secure the passage of this legislation that they would make these types of concessions to these Senators, I would ask that you demand that the same concessions be extended to Virginia, and for that matter, to every other state in the nation.

    Allowing key provisions in this legislation to be used to essentially buy votes from Senators Landrieu and Nelson at the expense of other states such as Virginia should be as offensive to you as it is to me, and it should give you all the reason you need to oppose this misguided legislation.

    Thank you for your service to the people of Virginia and for considering my views on this important issue.

    Very Truly Yours,

    Lieutenant Governor
    Commonwealth of Virginia


  5. asdfg said on 21 Dec 2009 at 4:09 pm:
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    So do you know what the Reid’s health care monstrosity has in common with Not Larry Sabato? They are both made possible by traitors named Ben! LOL

  6. Kevin C said on 21 Dec 2009 at 4:13 pm:
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    Wm. T. Bolling: “Thank you for…considering my views on this important issue.”

    The ONLY thing these two (and ALL) politicians “consider” is their OWN GIANT EGOS and STUFFING their pockets !!!!

    Once again, the PROBLEM is not Democrats or Republicans but POLITICIANS !!!

    Here it is, you heard it here FIRST: Politicians don’t SOLVE problems, politicians FUND problems !!!

    Let me say that again: Politicians don’t SOLVE problems, politicians FUND problems !!!

    LOGIC tells you that if you SOLVE a problem you can no longer justify FUNDING the problem !!!

    So WHY, in the interest of all who SKIM OFF THE TOP, would anyone in their right mind SOLVE a problem ?

    Now, for your amusement: If Obama and Pelosi were were trapped on a life boat, and the life boat sank, WHO would be saved?

  7. Anonymous said on 21 Dec 2009 at 4:33 pm:
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    Kevin C said on 21 Dec 2009 at 4:13 pm: Flag comment
    Now, for your amusement: If Obama and Pelosi were were trapped on a life boat, and the life boat sank, WHO would be saved?

    Harry DUH Reid? :)

  8. wdbgvoter said on 21 Dec 2009 at 5:11 pm:
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    It’s good to see that some people never change. You continue to be a liar and delusional.

  9. Forgotten Man said on 21 Dec 2009 at 5:18 pm:
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    If anyone can beleive this it was written by Sen. Webb in Parade Magazine on 5/18/08.

    “Our country is in the middle of a profound crisis. This crisis has many causes, but much of it has been brought about by poor leadership decisions at every level of government. In addition, our electoral process is dominated by financial interests that are threatened by the very notion of reform.

    Elections shouldn’t be media circuses, nor should they be auctions where a candidate sells himself to the highest bidder. They should be moral contracts between those who wish to lead and those who are consenting to be led.

    What, then, must we do?

    In one form or another, this question is asked daily in every community and in almost every household around the world. In authoritarian societies, it’s whispered; in others, it is debated. In America, we quite frankly find ourselves doing a little of both.

    Our challenges lie in improving the way we’ve been selecting our leaders. To the American voters, I offer this advice: Be as shrewd and ruthless in your demands on our leaders as the wizards running campaigns are in their strategies to get your vote. Do your part to send to Washington people who truly want to solve the problems of this country from the bottom up.

    You won’t regret it. You will benefit from it. And the stakes could not be higher. Sometimes the business of politics seems silly. It can also be infuriating. But you must stay in the game, because you and your grandchildren will be the inheritors of both our successes and flaws.”

    Jim Webb (D.) is a U.S. Senator from Virginia.

  10. Kevin C said on 21 Dec 2009 at 5:52 pm:
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    wdbgvoter (is that you Harry?) said: “It’s good to see that some people never change. You continue to be a liar and delusional.”

    IF that comment is in reply to MY post, all I can say is, spoken like a true THIEF and/or supporter of THIEVES and COWARDLY, DRUNKEN THUGS! (It WOULD be nice if people used references)

    You say absolutely NOTHING to discredit my HONEST observation !

    Now on to my riddle: If Obama and Pelosi were were trapped on a life boat, and the life boat sank, WHO would be saved?

    Anonymous said: Harry DUH Reid?

    The ANSWER is: AMERICA !!!!!

  11. James Young said on 21 Dec 2009 at 7:51 pm:
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    Why didn’t our “representatives” negotiate a better deal for voters of the Commonwealth?

  12. Harold72 said on 21 Dec 2009 at 8:33 pm:
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    We Virginian’s have dumb and dumber (the two W’s warner and Webb) and good Ol’ “hit and run” Gerry Connolly.

    We are very “fortunate”

  13. bob marshall said on 21 Dec 2009 at 8:58 pm:
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    I wrote this to fellow Virginians BEFORE the 1 AM capitulation vote by Sens. Warner and Webb. Delegate Bob Marshall

    Sen. Jim Webb’s vote on final passage is NOT the critical vote on Obama’s misnamed healthcare plan to turn citizens into serfs.

    If Jim Webb votes for Cloture, or voting to cut off debate, and then votes AGAINST final passage of the “Health Care Reform” bill, it would be like the get-away driver at a bank robbery claiming he had nothing to do with pointing a gun at the teller inside the bank. He facilitated it. He is an accomplice. Sen. Webb will not have “clean hands.”

    I worked on Capitol Hill for six years. Voting for cloture and then voting against final passage is a cynical ploy that Senate Democrat leaders rountinely accept with a wink and a nod.

    Voting for cloture is a NECESSARY step to final passage. Democratic Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) needs all 60 votes to end debate. Under these circumstances, Jim Webb is the vote that seals and ensures passage of Obamacare if he supports cloture.

    Sen. Reid can throw away some democrat votes for final passage if he can get Jim Webb and Mark Warner to cut off debate.

    Virginians need to demand that Sen. Webb vote against both Cloture AND final passage.

    Better yet, also ask Jim Webb where in the US Constitution the Congress has the legal authority to compel any resident of the US to enter into a contract with a private health provider to purchase insurance which must be approved by the Obama Administration. Hint, there isn’t any.

    The Congressional Budget Office in 1994 and the Congressional Research Service in 2009 both criticized and seriously questioned whether Members of Congress can legally do this without violating their Oath of Office.

    We must continue to write or call, but recent experience suggests Jim Webb or Mark Warner will not be responsive. I hope I am not correct.

    But by rejecting an amendment on procedural grounds to restrict abortion coverage from the Senate health plan, Jim Webb and Mark Warner both showed complete indifference to Virginians who know that abortion involves the direct taking of a life of a child. And both want each of us to be complicit in an act of killing in the name of health care. Reprehensible!

    So, again, please contact Sen. Mark Warner and Sen. Jim Webb and urge them to vote against both Cloture and final passage of Sen.Reid’s “health care reform.” Any other vote pattern from them is cynical political posturing.

    Delegate Bob Marshall

    PS Go to www.delegatebob.com for information on my HB 10 to challenge Obamacare’s insurance mandate. You can download an explanatory PDF which I urge you to share with friends in Virginia and other states.

  14. anonymous said on 21 Dec 2009 at 9:00 pm:
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    We’ll have better next time!

  15. Karla H said on 21 Dec 2009 at 11:03 pm:
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    Our country is a runaway freight train. Be conservative. Pay down debt. Even though the USD is falling, save. Buy gold.

  16. anonymous said on 22 Dec 2009 at 3:44 pm:
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    It won’t take much to represent the people better than Webb, Warner, and dim wit Connolly, that’s for sure.

    Karla, how ’bout you (or any other person who conscientiously cares about constituent opinion) interested in political office? Sad part is that because of their carefully planned “connections,” it would be very difficult for any common, ordinary person to campaign and even remotely come close to “out-financing” of any of ‘em! :(

  17. Prester John said on 23 Dec 2009 at 7:58 pm:
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    I was actually able to get through to Warner’s office today and spoke with a very pleasant staffer. I proceeded to unload (gently of course) on him regarding the healthcare bill–it’s a joke, I don’t understand why Warner is supporting, it won’t reduce the deficit, without tort reform there is no real reform etc. He took my name and zip code and said they were relaying constituent concerns to the Senator.

    Webb’s office was another matter. Busy signal all day long to speak to someone (which could be a good thing) and the voice mail box was full.

    What a bigger disaster this will be if the Senate caves to the House on the final bill.


  18. BattleCat said on 24 Dec 2009 at 8:32 am:
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    All one needed to do was stay awake in civics and/or government class in high school to shake the head in disbelief at what’s going on lately. Oh, and BTW, it’s not enough to ask a congressperson about the Constitution. One must make it clear that the answer is NOT the interstate commerce clause.

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