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Chuck Colgan: Channeling Karl Marx

By Greg L | 29 December 2009 | 29th VA Senate | 23 Comments

Senator Chuck Colgan somehow seems to think that his constituents are demanding an increase in Virginia’s income tax, according to the WashPo:

“We hadn’t had an increase in the income tax rate in 38 years. I’d be willing to bet there’s not another state in the union that has held fast on that rate for that long,” said Colgan, who said fellow legislators may reject the idea, but he has heard already from constituents who support it.

Who the heck does Colgan hang out with these days?

The argument to increase the income tax rate these days is about as nonsensical as it gets.  Just because government doesn’t have all the money it wants, a (very few) legislators like Senator Colgan and Delegate Bob Brink think the answer is to take more money from Virginia families that are themselves facing difficult financial decisions?  The idea that tax rates should continue to increase every year and that government should seize an ever-increasing proportion of our wealth makes no sense even when economic conditions are good.  To even consider this positively Marxist rubbish now demonstrates a fundamental disconnect with the electorate that boggles the mind.

A few short ago when Colgan was running for re-election he pledged that he wouldn’t raise taxes, dismissing skepticism of his claim as hyper-partisan electioneering.  Now we see that the criticism of his record and the casual dismissal of his claim to be a fiscal conservative was spot-on.  Colgan is nothing but a tax-raising hypocrite who has continually mislead his constituents about what he would actually do in the General Assembly.

If Colgan’s only public company in this fiasco is the leftist nutjob and Chairman of the House Homosexual Caucus Bob Brink, perhaps he should consider moving to Arlington, a place where he might in fact hear from constituents that they like the idea of having their income tax rates raised.  In Prince William County, this polls about as well as approval for Mexicans Without Borders.

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  1. Advocator said on 29 Dec 2009 at 2:05 pm:
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    I’ll bet the ole buzzard can’t wait to retire to Tennessee, where they have NO state income tax. Didja hear that, Chuckie? Zero. A rate they’ve held for close to 200 years. Match that, ya dumb sumbitch.

  2. anon said on 29 Dec 2009 at 2:11 pm:
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    Everyone’s taxes go up over time…if they are successful and get promoted and make more money. What the hell is Colgan smoking?

  3. Ayn Rand IS Right! said on 29 Dec 2009 at 2:31 pm:
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    I’ll tell you who he’s hanging out with: LIBERALS. The only folks calling him are Democrats. Both he and Harry Parrish (God Rest His Soul) were best friends (self-described by both parties) and as such were moderating influences on each other. This caused both to be pulled more to the center than their natural inclinations would have provided. Notice how in recent years Chuck has moved further left? Why? It’s because he has aligned himself squarely with the left, which is squarely in control of his party, and there is no counter-acting influence. A tax increase during an economic downturn? Only a hard lefty would suggest such a thing. They need to keep up a certain level of spending, in order to appease the entitlement society which is their party base, inspite of what the economy does. Yep, Chuck has gone 100% native. He’s a liberal through and through now. Fortunately, I would bet he will not seek re-election. With the tide turning against his party in VA and nationally, I doubt he would want to leave as a result of a defeat at the polls. No, he’ll retire.

  4. citizenofmanassas said on 29 Dec 2009 at 3:46 pm:
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    I don’t care what other States do with their tax rate, since I don’t live there, but here in VA. I love how these idiots in order to justfy additional taxes always want to compare us to other States.

    He was against the gas tax before he was for it. I don’t kow how he ever got labeled as a centerist when all I’ve known from his is a lover of higher taxes.

  5. NoVA Scout said on 29 Dec 2009 at 4:12 pm:
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    Where does Karl Marx come into this?

  6. Anonymous said on 29 Dec 2009 at 6:12 pm:
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    “In The Communist Manifesto, first published in 1848, Karl Marx lists “a heavy and progressive or graduated income tax” as the second of ten general steps for a nation’s transition to communism.”



  7. Chris said on 29 Dec 2009 at 7:55 pm:
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    Can Jackson Miller announce for the state senate already?

  8. Anonymous said on 29 Dec 2009 at 9:27 pm:
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    Presently at 83 years old, I don’t think Chuckie is gonna go for another round. This is his last “HURRAH.”

  9. Anonymous said on 29 Dec 2009 at 9:45 pm:
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    Have to pay for a white elephant somehow.

  10. Anonymous said on 29 Dec 2009 at 11:05 pm:
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    States with no income tax- Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming.

    New Hampshire and Tennessee limit their state income taxes to only dividends and interest income.

  11. DPortM said on 30 Dec 2009 at 5:49 am:
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    I believe the best thing to do at this juncture is to e-mail our liberal senator and let him know what his constituents think about his proposed tax hike:


  12. NoVA Scout said on 30 Dec 2009 at 6:59 am:
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    Is it possible to discuss fiscal policy (which necessarily includes a discussion of revenue issues) without “channeling Karl Marx”? I would hope that fiscal conservatives wouldn’t find tax policy debate off-limits simply because Marx mentioned taxes. Virginia’s tax structure is ridiculously antiquated. Local reliance on ad valorem taxes on real or personal property held (but not sold) during the tax year is an absurd way to fund local requirements. If those taxes were eliminated, there would probably have to be adjustments made to the state income tax structure and distribution. States without income tax have high sales taxes on a wide range of products. If one alters that approach, one has to talk about income tax changes. Again, that is not a Marxist discussion. It’s an important question of tax policy that needs to be ventilated and discussed frequently to ensure that the dead hand of taxes is kept to a minimum. The discussion to have with Senator Colgan is what the money is needed for and what alternatives to increasing the state’s personal income tax rate might exist. It is no discussion at all to say that he is “channeling Karl Marx.”

  13. Pat.Herve said on 30 Dec 2009 at 10:21 am:
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    But if you read the proposal, it is to fix the broken car tax - but to keep the revenue stream, raise the income tax.

    Currently, the state forks over $950 million to the localities in lieu of the car tax, the proposal is to eliminate the car tax, and raise the income tax 1% to address the car tax elimination. If the R’s and D’s were swapped some would be calling this a tax reduction.

    Personally, even though I drive older vehicles, I would like to see the car tax go away permanently, why do I have to pay every year for the privilege of owning a car? And if I can afford a new car, why do I have to change my budget to accommodate the car tax?

    So, yes, I am for this change (eliminate the car tax (finally), increase the income tax).

    As for the states with no income tax - well, they get there revenue through other taxes - high property, high sales, and high fees - there is no free ride.

  14. Anonymous said on 30 Dec 2009 at 11:42 am:
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    No free Ride? *SNORT* Hope you sent that pearl of wisdom out to those who feel they have no obligation to explain why they need more of your hard earned money. Colgan should be explaining what he needs the money for.

    Brink, Colgan: Patrons of Kaine’s lost causes

    They see no reason why you should be allowed to keep your money since they’re sure they can do a better job than you of spending it.
    One of the biggest goals of communism is to prevent people from accumulating money and passing it down from generation to generation.
    That creates people who are not dependent on government.

    Also, they see it as a middle class thing - earning money and saving it, while the favored constituency of the left is seen as poor, downtrodden, oppressed.

    But instead of helping their constituency, it prevents them from accumulating money and passing it down from generation to generation, and becoming independent of the government.

    Big goal of the communists is to make everyone dependent on government

  15. Gnarly said on 30 Dec 2009 at 11:55 am:
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    I think the GOP should use this proposal to show Virginians the real difference between the parties. The House GOP Leadership needs to come up with a proposal that eliminates the $950 million to localities and finally keep the GOP’s promise of the 90s in eliminating the hated car tax, but the GOP proposal should do it WITHOUT A TAX OR FEE INCREASE in their plan.

    How? By cutting spending. EASY!!! They need to demand that each agency come up with a plan for cuts at 3 reduction levels; 3, 5, and 7 percent. We already learned this year that VDOT has been paying 150 percent too much for a lousy laptop and I’m sure that’s one of hundreds of examples of waste, fraud, and abuse. Then they need to let all the localities know that the GOP is serious this time about curbing runaway government growth and send a strong signal to every locality that they should follow suit and formulate the same plan to prepare for the impending loss of the state car tax subsidy. In the past, state agencies and local governments have been successful in coming to the General Assembly and screaming the “sky is falling”….and the budget writers always back down. Did anyone feel one iota of difference in state services when we had the “massive” state layoffs this past year? NO!!!! I have always contended that state government could lose about 10 percent of all state workers and local governments could lose 5 percent and nobody would feel ONE SINGLE difference in what happens in their daily lives. Oh yea…..the press will whine and scream and convince us everyday that the lives of all Virginians will be ruined because the government had to stop growing at such a rapid pace.

    Unless the spending side of the equation is dealt with in a serious manner, especially in a time when most citizens understand that the economic conditions call for deep cuts, then we will never stem the upward pressure on the out-of-control growth of budgets on the state and local levels. That’s what was so horrible about the federal “stimulus” sham…..it just helped state and local government budgets to continue to grow unchecked as if our economy was still booming. Who does that help in the long run? Even if you “replace” this revenue with an increase in the state income tax, it will NEVER be enough. I mean come on…. an increase in the income tax at a time where people are out of work or if they’re lucky enough to still have a job, they are working for far less than they had previously? The revenue they are planning to spend already will never materialize.

    The huge advantage in this “cut-spending” approach will be the signal it sends to the business community. When they see that the government is finally serious about keeping it’s own house in order, then more economic growth will be unleashed. Jobs will come back, and businesses will look at Virginia once again as a good place to do business and a great environment to prosper. Then when all THAT new revenue rolls in, the GOP can lead once again like REAL REPUBLICANS and return all of it to the taxpayers and businesses in the form of tax cuts. That will be an easy sell because by that time everybody will see that state government agencies and local governments can chug along just fine with less funding.

    The GOP has a golden opportunity to unleash a new economic resurgence just by having the backbone to CUT $950 million instead of acting democrat-light and cobbling together other ways to fill this mythical “budget gap.” WILL THEY FINALLY BE LEADERS AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? One can only dream I suppose.

  16. Howard the Duck said on 30 Dec 2009 at 3:01 pm:
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    I just got back from the grocery store. Yogurt 75 cents. A can of vegetables, over a dollar a can. Are we supposed to eat dirt?

  17. Ayn Rand IS Right! said on 30 Dec 2009 at 3:01 pm:
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    “why do I have to pay every year for the privilege of owning a car?”

    And why do I have to pay a penalty for having a solid work ethic and wanting to provide a stable finanical life-style for my family? Why is it that I pay more because I had the drive to get a solid education, and apply my intellect toward higher paying jobs? Why is it that in the socialist utopia that liberals are trying to create, under-achievers are compensated at the expense of over-achievers? Why is it that I must subsidize those who failed to take advantage of the opportunities this great country offers? Why is it “they” keep moving the “poverty line” upward, as American society as a whole has gotten wealthier? Why is it that I grew up without a color TV, cable TV, airconditioning, in a family that had one car that was 10 years old, and was considered “middle class”, but now folks who have all of these comforts and ammenities plus driving a new Escalade and living in “Section 8″ are considered “poor”.

    How about this: Let’s get rid of the car tax, lower the income tax AND cut spending? Let those of us who earn the money decide what to do with it. Tax us only for those essential services government is statutorially obligated to provide. Let us decide to give to the poor out of charity and cheerful giving, rather than under force from the government. Lets roll this country’s fiscal policy back to the pre-New Deal, Pre-Square Deal, Pre-War on poverty days. Let’s get back to where the founders intended us to be.

  18. Advocator said on 30 Dec 2009 at 5:12 pm:
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    Sales taxes are much preferable to income taxes. They reward those of us who don’t buy much.

  19. Anonymous said on 30 Dec 2009 at 5:33 pm:
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    Pat, you are right. Even Republicans who have said they are against raising the income tax have said they are for seeing cities raise property taxes instead, which keeps the money in the jurisdiction instead of in Richmond. Taxation is just a shell game.

  20. Anonymous said on 31 Dec 2009 at 1:50 pm:
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    Howard the Duck said on 30 Dec 2009 at 3:01 pm: Flag comment

    I just got back from the grocery store. Yogurt 75 cents. A can of vegetables, over a dollar a can. Are we supposed to eat dirt?

    I wish I could afford yogurt and canned vegetables. Even my favorite meal, dogfood is getting too expensive. What is this world coming to?

  21. Anonymous said on 31 Dec 2009 at 1:58 pm:
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    Look at the status of California. High income and sales taxes and they still have a 20 billion dollar deficit. When does it stop?

  22. Anonymous said on 31 Dec 2009 at 4:20 pm:
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    California - Prop 13 plays a huge part of its problems with tax structure…

  23. Cynic said on 1 Jan 2010 at 4:30 pm:
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    “California - Prop 13 plays a huge part of its problems with tax structure…”

    Prop 13 is small stuff when one compares it to the costs associated with illegal immigration - like higher education costs, higher hospital costs and reduced medical services for its citizens, and the cost of the crimes they commit against citizens and other illegals. All these costs and nothing on the revenue (tax) side as these illegals pay little or no taxes - certainly not a the same level as citizens.

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