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	<title>Comments on: Open Thread</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Lake Ridge</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92690</link>
		<dc:creator>Lake Ridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92690</guid>
		<description>This is for any of you who currently have children enrolled in the PWCS Specialty Schools program.  Dr. Walts budget is calling for transportation to be cut for those students who live outside of that particular home school.  This is a great disappointment because these Specialty Schools rely so much on those students coming from other areas in the County, and this will more than likely spell the eventual end of the specialty programs.  This is at the same time the Superintendent and School Board WILL be providing transportation to the Governor's School, a multimillionaire dollar program they started knowing very well that PWCS would be facing an unprecedented budget deficit.  It is also of note that PWCS will continue to provide transportation to Fairfax County's Thomas Jefferson School.

For many of you, the response may be, "Who cares" or "They didn't have specialty schools when I was in school, why should they now?"  In response, this is the one thing that sets PWCS apart from any other N. Virginia school, or most schools in the country for that matter.  At this point the County is not even considering providing a "pay for transportation" plan, which would at least be a viable alternative.  

These programs have brought excitement to many students who totally lack enthusiasm with regards to their education.  In addition, this is at least in part, a program of real School Choice.  If you know of anyone with kids in the Specialty programs, please let then know about these cuts.  For those interested in taking action, see below:

The Prince William County School Board will hold a public hearing on the Superintendent’s Proposed Fiscal Year (FY) 2011 Budget and Capital Improvements Program at 6 p.m. on Monday, March 1 in the auditorium of Stonewall Jackson High School. Stonewall Jackson High School is located at 8820 Rixlew Lane, Manassas.

Citizens may sign up to speak at the public hearing through the School Board Clerk’s Office until noon on March 1 by calling 703.791.8709 or by emailing dentaj@pwcs.edu. Citizens may also sign up on March 1 at the entrance to the Stonewall Jackson High School auditorium door from 5 p.m. until 5:55 p.m. Citizens must sign up by these deadlines in order to speak. Each speaker will have up to two minutes to make comments.

The budget public hearing previously scheduled for February 8 was canceled because of a snowstorm.

A budget work session will be held following the Board’s public meeting at 7 p.m. on Wednesday, March 3. A special work session for final markup on the budget is scheduled for Wednesday, March 17 following the School Board’s regular meeting which will begin at 7 p.m.

The School Board has rescheduled its vote on the Superintendent’s Proposed FY 2011 Budget and Capital Improvements Program from March 17 to a special meeting on March 24. That meeting will begin at 7 p.m. in the School Board meeting room in the Edward L. Kelly Leadership Center, 14715 Bristow Road, Manassas, and will be broadcast live on PWCS-TV, Comcast Channel 18 and Verizon Channel 36.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for any of you who currently have children enrolled in the PWCS Specialty Schools program.  Dr. Walts budget is calling for transportation to be cut for those students who live outside of that particular home school.  This is a great disappointment because these Specialty Schools rely so much on those students coming from other areas in the County, and this will more than likely spell the eventual end of the specialty programs.  This is at the same time the Superintendent and School Board WILL be providing transportation to the Governor&#8217;s School, a multimillionaire dollar program they started knowing very well that PWCS would be facing an unprecedented budget deficit.  It is also of note that PWCS will continue to provide transportation to Fairfax County&#8217;s Thomas Jefferson School.</p>
<p>For many of you, the response may be, &#8220;Who cares&#8221; or &#8220;They didn&#8217;t have specialty schools when I was in school, why should they now?&#8221;  In response, this is the one thing that sets PWCS apart from any other N. Virginia school, or most schools in the country for that matter.  At this point the County is not even considering providing a &#8220;pay for transportation&#8221; plan, which would at least be a viable alternative.  </p>
<p>These programs have brought excitement to many students who totally lack enthusiasm with regards to their education.  In addition, this is at least in part, a program of real School Choice.  If you know of anyone with kids in the Specialty programs, please let then know about these cuts.  For those interested in taking action, see below:</p>
<p>The Prince William County School Board will hold a public hearing on the Superintendent’s Proposed Fiscal Year (FY) 2011 Budget and Capital Improvements Program at 6 p.m. on Monday, March 1 in the auditorium of Stonewall Jackson High School. Stonewall Jackson High School is located at 8820 Rixlew Lane, Manassas.</p>
<p>Citizens may sign up to speak at the public hearing through the School Board Clerk’s Office until noon on March 1 by calling 703.791.8709 or by emailing <a href="mailto:dentaj@pwcs.edu.">dentaj@pwcs.edu.</a> Citizens may also sign up on March 1 at the entrance to the Stonewall Jackson High School auditorium door from 5 p.m. until 5:55 p.m. Citizens must sign up by these deadlines in order to speak. Each speaker will have up to two minutes to make comments.</p>
<p>The budget public hearing previously scheduled for February 8 was canceled because of a snowstorm.</p>
<p>A budget work session will be held following the Board’s public meeting at 7 p.m. on Wednesday, March 3. A special work session for final markup on the budget is scheduled for Wednesday, March 17 following the School Board’s regular meeting which will begin at 7 p.m.</p>
<p>The School Board has rescheduled its vote on the Superintendent’s Proposed FY 2011 Budget and Capital Improvements Program from March 17 to a special meeting on March 24. That meeting will begin at 7 p.m. in the School Board meeting room in the Edward L. Kelly Leadership Center, 14715 Bristow Road, Manassas, and will be broadcast live on PWCS-TV, Comcast Channel 18 and Verizon Channel 36.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92688</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92688</guid>
		<description>Does anyone know how a person can get involved in the PW Committee of 100? I have filled out their application and submitted it 3 times over the past year and haven't received the first response-not even something telling me to beat it and stop bothering them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know how a person can get involved in the PW Committee of 100? I have filled out their application and submitted it 3 times over the past year and haven&#8217;t received the first response-not even something telling me to beat it and stop bothering them.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92569</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92569</guid>
		<description>OK folks, I think the blasting back and forth has gone on long enough.  I'm moderating all of the personal rock throwing in this thread from here on out.  If you got something for the broader audience, please feel free to post it.  If you're focusing on getting your digs in on one particular person, I'll ask you to refrain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK folks, I think the blasting back and forth has gone on long enough.  I&#8217;m moderating all of the personal rock throwing in this thread from here on out.  If you got something for the broader audience, please feel free to post it.  If you&#8217;re focusing on getting your digs in on one particular person, I&#8217;ll ask you to refrain.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92554</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92554</guid>
		<description>Kevin C, you should point out to Ayn Rand IS Right just how much of a hypocrite Ayn Rand was in real life.  Her personal actions ended up costing her all her credibility.  She's seen a little resurgence of late among a crowd just now discovering her books without knowing anything in depth about her real life biography.  Might be a lesson in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin C, you should point out to Ayn Rand IS Right just how much of a hypocrite Ayn Rand was in real life.  Her personal actions ended up costing her all her credibility.  She&#8217;s seen a little resurgence of late among a crowd just now discovering her books without knowing anything in depth about her real life biography.  Might be a lesson in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayn Rand IS Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92548</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayn Rand IS Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92548</guid>
		<description>Ah Kevin...as you rant, you prove me right. Fear-biter...yes indeed. As I throw the ball, your reaction is predictable.  You run with anticipation, looking for it to land, so you can grab it, and carry it back to be thrown again. You don't know why you do it, you just know, deep in your gut, that you must. And as you do so, you don't realize that you have been completely discredited. No one will take your seriously on this forum, where you so desperately seek affirmation. Sad. But I'll indulge you and throw the ball again, and you, according to your nature, will react. You will run to fetch it. You cannot resist. You must answer me now, or stew about it and answer me later. But answer me you will. You can't help it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Kevin&#8230;as you rant, you prove me right. Fear-biter&#8230;yes indeed. As I throw the ball, your reaction is predictable.  You run with anticipation, looking for it to land, so you can grab it, and carry it back to be thrown again. You don&#8217;t know why you do it, you just know, deep in your gut, that you must. And as you do so, you don&#8217;t realize that you have been completely discredited. No one will take your seriously on this forum, where you so desperately seek affirmation. Sad. But I&#8217;ll indulge you and throw the ball again, and you, according to your nature, will react. You will run to fetch it. You cannot resist. You must answer me now, or stew about it and answer me later. But answer me you will. You can&#8217;t help it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92539</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92539</guid>
		<description>Non-e-moose said on 23 Feb 2010 at 6:21 pm: "I hope Kevin doesn’t end up getting hit with a rolled up newspaper."

Don't worry, SOCK puppet, you ain't BIG enough and you ain't BAD enough !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-e-moose said on 23 Feb 2010 at 6:21 pm: &#8220;I hope Kevin doesn’t end up getting hit with a rolled up newspaper.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, SOCK puppet, you ain&#8217;t BIG enough and you ain&#8217;t BAD enough !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Non-e-moose</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92538</link>
		<dc:creator>Non-e-moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92538</guid>
		<description>I hope Kevin doesn't end up getting hit with a rolled up newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Kevin doesn&#8217;t end up getting hit with a rolled up newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92537</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92537</guid>
		<description>Ayn Rand IS Right said on 23 Feb 2010 at 3:45 pm: "I hear Kevin whining and scratching at the door. I am a bit busy right now Kevin. I’ll throw the ball for you later. Now go lay down. That’s a good boy."

"Ayn Rand is Right" has been reduced to the MINDLESS BABBLING of an IMBECILE !!!!

MAYBE what you hear (way, WAY off in the distance) is REALITY trying to get back in touch with you ??

Next stop for you, the RUBBER ROOM !!!

BTW, Ms. Rand (there, do you like that better? Does that STROKE your EGO?), are you trying to say that every time someone rings the doorbell, you SALIVATE ????

*** *** *** ***
As for the "Anonymous, the DESPERATE for ATTENTION little SOCK puppet," peeking out from under her rock, you're not even worth responding to, you'll have to look to your HUSBAND for the ABUSE you've become ADDICTED to !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayn Rand IS Right said on 23 Feb 2010 at 3:45 pm: &#8220;I hear Kevin whining and scratching at the door. I am a bit busy right now Kevin. I’ll throw the ball for you later. Now go lay down. That’s a good boy.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ayn Rand is Right&#8221; has been reduced to the MINDLESS BABBLING of an IMBECILE !!!!</p>
<p>MAYBE what you hear (way, WAY off in the distance) is REALITY trying to get back in touch with you ??</p>
<p>Next stop for you, the RUBBER ROOM !!!</p>
<p>BTW, Ms. Rand (there, do you like that better? Does that STROKE your EGO?), are you trying to say that every time someone rings the doorbell, you SALIVATE ????</p>
<p>*** *** *** ***<br />
As for the &#8220;Anonymous, the DESPERATE for ATTENTION little SOCK puppet,&#8221; peeking out from under her rock, you&#8217;re not even worth responding to, you&#8217;ll have to look to your HUSBAND for the ABUSE you&#8217;ve become ADDICTED to !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92533</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92533</guid>
		<description>Ayn Rand IS Right said on 23 Feb 2010 at 3:45 pm: Flag comment 

I hear Kevin whining and scratching at the door. I am a bit busy right now Kevin. I’ll throw the ball for you later. Now go lay down. That’s a good boy.

Kevin has now laid down and is licking his "wounds."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayn Rand IS Right said on 23 Feb 2010 at 3:45 pm: Flag comment </p>
<p>I hear Kevin whining and scratching at the door. I am a bit busy right now Kevin. I’ll throw the ball for you later. Now go lay down. That’s a good boy.</p>
<p>Kevin has now laid down and is licking his &#8220;wounds.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ayn Rand IS Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92531</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayn Rand IS Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92531</guid>
		<description>I hear Kevin whining and scratching at the door.  I am a bit busy right now Kevin. I'll throw the ball for you later. Now go lay down. That's a good boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear Kevin whining and scratching at the door.  I am a bit busy right now Kevin. I&#8217;ll throw the ball for you later. Now go lay down. That&#8217;s a good boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92527</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92527</guid>
		<description>Ayn Rand IS Right said on 23 Feb 2010 at 2:48 pm: "...those who you perceive as challenging your intellect."

So, whoever you REALLY are, what you're saying is, THIS is not a challenge to my intellect:  Ayn Rand IS Right! said on 22 Feb 2010 at 5:37 pm: "To explain so even “Kevin C.” can follow the logic:"

Please, PLEASE tell me you're NOT THAT STUPID !!!!

PLEASE !!!

Are you so TOTALLY OBLIVIOUS you can't even PAY ATTENTION to YOURSELF ????

Please tell me you're NOT that STUPID !!!!

TRY to get a GRIP on REALITY !!!!

Once again, and I think this comes from posting from "Ayn Rand Is Right" for so long that you actually BELIEVE you are Ayn Rand AND you think you're RIGHT !!! 

You are NOT Ayn Rand and you are NOT right, no matter WHAT you've DELUDED yourself into believing !!!!!

TRY to SNAP OUT OF IT !!!!!

Furthermore, as far as this IDIOTIC remark goes, "...as I refrain from the cut-and-paste you appear to be fond of." maybe, just MAYBE, if you CUT and PASTE a little more you would not have MISQUOTED me.

Again it has to do with REALITY !!!

You cannot MAKE UP a quote, especially one you heard in your DELUSIONAL LITTLE MIND, then try to attribute it to ME !!!!

Get your FACTS straight and (TRY to) get a grip on REALITY and maybe you won't waste so much (of Greg's) disk space defending yourself !!!

Try the YELLOW PAGES, find a GOOD shrink and MAYBE you'll stop CLINGING to this FANTASY before you wind up in a PADDED ROOM !!!!

"You are NOT Ayn Rand," say that to yourself when you look in the MIRROR !!!

Maybe THAT'LL help ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayn Rand IS Right said on 23 Feb 2010 at 2:48 pm: &#8220;&#8230;those who you perceive as challenging your intellect.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, whoever you REALLY are, what you&#8217;re saying is, THIS is not a challenge to my intellect:  Ayn Rand IS Right! said on 22 Feb 2010 at 5:37 pm: &#8220;To explain so even “Kevin C.” can follow the logic:&#8221;</p>
<p>Please, PLEASE tell me you&#8217;re NOT THAT STUPID !!!!</p>
<p>PLEASE !!!</p>
<p>Are you so TOTALLY OBLIVIOUS you can&#8217;t even PAY ATTENTION to YOURSELF ????</p>
<p>Please tell me you&#8217;re NOT that STUPID !!!!</p>
<p>TRY to get a GRIP on REALITY !!!!</p>
<p>Once again, and I think this comes from posting from &#8220;Ayn Rand Is Right&#8221; for so long that you actually BELIEVE you are Ayn Rand AND you think you&#8217;re RIGHT !!! </p>
<p>You are NOT Ayn Rand and you are NOT right, no matter WHAT you&#8217;ve DELUDED yourself into believing !!!!!</p>
<p>TRY to SNAP OUT OF IT !!!!!</p>
<p>Furthermore, as far as this IDIOTIC remark goes, &#8220;&#8230;as I refrain from the cut-and-paste you appear to be fond of.&#8221; maybe, just MAYBE, if you CUT and PASTE a little more you would not have MISQUOTED me.</p>
<p>Again it has to do with REALITY !!!</p>
<p>You cannot MAKE UP a quote, especially one you heard in your DELUSIONAL LITTLE MIND, then try to attribute it to ME !!!!</p>
<p>Get your FACTS straight and (TRY to) get a grip on REALITY and maybe you won&#8217;t waste so much (of Greg&#8217;s) disk space defending yourself !!!</p>
<p>Try the YELLOW PAGES, find a GOOD shrink and MAYBE you&#8217;ll stop CLINGING to this FANTASY before you wind up in a PADDED ROOM !!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;You are NOT Ayn Rand,&#8221; say that to yourself when you look in the MIRROR !!!</p>
<p>Maybe THAT&#8217;LL help ????</p>
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		<title>By: Tillie</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92524</link>
		<dc:creator>Tillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92524</guid>
		<description>Misunderstood I am.

Greg -

No rocks thrown at Patty.  I wasn't addressing Patty per se;  "you" meant all of us.  I know squat about Patty and I have no doubt whatever that she is a truly good person.

And you know, Greg, even though I don't adore or pray to anybody, I'm actually considered to be a good person.  Some even sneer the word "do-gooder" at me.

It would be interessting to know what  "higher calling in life" means to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misunderstood I am.</p>
<p>Greg -</p>
<p>No rocks thrown at Patty.  I wasn&#8217;t addressing Patty per se;  &#8220;you&#8221; meant all of us.  I know squat about Patty and I have no doubt whatever that she is a truly good person.</p>
<p>And you know, Greg, even though I don&#8217;t adore or pray to anybody, I&#8217;m actually considered to be a good person.  Some even sneer the word &#8220;do-gooder&#8221; at me.</p>
<p>It would be interessting to know what  &#8220;higher calling in life&#8221; means to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayn Rand IS Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92523</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayn Rand IS Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92523</guid>
		<description>Kevin C,

Perhaps you might want to slow down, take a deep breath, wipe the spittle from your chin, and get ahold of yourself. You seem to be a bit insecure, and defensively lash out at those who you perceive as challenging your intellect. In support of this assertion, I point to your first post. I will spare the rest of the readership, and save a little disk space for Greg, as I refrain from the cut-and-paste you appear to be fond of. Your post would indicate that you have been on a slow burn for some time regarding our previous exchange you have quoted. Your multiple rants on this thread would indicate you do place emotion over logic, and react viscerally to every perceived slight. If you were a dog, you would be termed a "fear-biter".  However, the dog is of marginal intelligence, an instinctual creature, not self-aware. The dog can be excused for his behavior. He is, afterall, a dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin C,</p>
<p>Perhaps you might want to slow down, take a deep breath, wipe the spittle from your chin, and get ahold of yourself. You seem to be a bit insecure, and defensively lash out at those who you perceive as challenging your intellect. In support of this assertion, I point to your first post. I will spare the rest of the readership, and save a little disk space for Greg, as I refrain from the cut-and-paste you appear to be fond of. Your post would indicate that you have been on a slow burn for some time regarding our previous exchange you have quoted. Your multiple rants on this thread would indicate you do place emotion over logic, and react viscerally to every perceived slight. If you were a dog, you would be termed a &#8220;fear-biter&#8221;.  However, the dog is of marginal intelligence, an instinctual creature, not self-aware. The dog can be excused for his behavior. He is, afterall, a dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92516</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92516</guid>
		<description>BTW Rand, as far as your "GOTCHA" goes, I didn't get you, YOU got YOURSELF !!!!

You QUESTIONED me then MINUTES later posted EXACTLY what I said !!! 

Your PROBLEM is you didn't understand what I said because you MISREAD it !!!!

You even QUOTED me incorrectly !!!

YOU got YOU !!!!

As I've said SO many times before, WOW !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Rand, as far as your &#8220;GOTCHA&#8221; goes, I didn&#8217;t get you, YOU got YOURSELF !!!!</p>
<p>You QUESTIONED me then MINUTES later posted EXACTLY what I said !!! </p>
<p>Your PROBLEM is you didn&#8217;t understand what I said because you MISREAD it !!!!</p>
<p>You even QUOTED me incorrectly !!!</p>
<p>YOU got YOU !!!!</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said SO many times before, WOW !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92515</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92515</guid>
		<description>Ayn Rand IS Right! said on 22 Feb 2010 at 5:37 pm: "To explain so even “Kevin C.” can follow the logic:"

Let me give YOU a DOSE of REALITY, whoever you are !!!!

YOU can post from the screen name Ayn Rand till the COWS come home, and it DOES NOT and will NEVER make you Ayn rand !!!!!

YOU can say Ayn Rand IS RIGHT till the COWS COME HOME and it doesn't make YOU RIGHT !!!!

You can CRACK BOOKS till the COWS COME HOME and it STILL won't give you ONE IOTA, NOT ONE single OUNCE of COMMON SENSE !!!!!

So, how 'bout you HOP DOWN from that PEDESTAL you've placed YOURSELF on and TRY to get back in touch with REALITY !!!

You THINK I said "till the cows come home" as many times as you said "GRATUITOUS???"

Guess what, I DIDN'T !!!!!

Knowing the definition of a word is only HALF the battle !!!

You've GOT to understand how to APPLY the word !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayn Rand IS Right! said on 22 Feb 2010 at 5:37 pm: &#8220;To explain so even “Kevin C.” can follow the logic:&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me give YOU a DOSE of REALITY, whoever you are !!!!</p>
<p>YOU can post from the screen name Ayn Rand till the COWS come home, and it DOES NOT and will NEVER make you Ayn rand !!!!!</p>
<p>YOU can say Ayn Rand IS RIGHT till the COWS COME HOME and it doesn&#8217;t make YOU RIGHT !!!!</p>
<p>You can CRACK BOOKS till the COWS COME HOME and it STILL won&#8217;t give you ONE IOTA, NOT ONE single OUNCE of COMMON SENSE !!!!!</p>
<p>So, how &#8217;bout you HOP DOWN from that PEDESTAL you&#8217;ve placed YOURSELF on and TRY to get back in touch with REALITY !!!</p>
<p>You THINK I said &#8220;till the cows come home&#8221; as many times as you said &#8220;GRATUITOUS???&#8221;</p>
<p>Guess what, I DIDN&#8217;T !!!!!</p>
<p>Knowing the definition of a word is only HALF the battle !!!</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve GOT to understand how to APPLY the word !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92511</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92511</guid>
		<description>Tillie, I know that Patty in fact organized a large neighborhood watch to shovel snow in the neighborhood.  She's also worked to get grass cut in the community.  You might be better off telling folks who don't regularly contribute to the quality of the neighborhood to do something else.  Throwing those rocks at Patty is pretty off base.  Seriously.

I know the relative anonymity of blog identities can make it difficult to understand who we're actually talking to here, but making assumptions like this can come back to haunt you.  It's better in some cases to just assume we're talking to the biggest community assets around, because often we are.

As far as why you should worship God, I just pray the Holy Spirit works in you as it has in me and helps lead you to a life with more meaning, a higher purpose, and solid answers about life you're not going to find elsewhere.  If you've got such fundamental questions rattling around unanswered, I feel for you.  I've been there, and it gnawed on me continuously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tillie, I know that Patty in fact organized a large neighborhood watch to shovel snow in the neighborhood.  She&#8217;s also worked to get grass cut in the community.  You might be better off telling folks who don&#8217;t regularly contribute to the quality of the neighborhood to do something else.  Throwing those rocks at Patty is pretty off base.  Seriously.</p>
<p>I know the relative anonymity of blog identities can make it difficult to understand who we&#8217;re actually talking to here, but making assumptions like this can come back to haunt you.  It&#8217;s better in some cases to just assume we&#8217;re talking to the biggest community assets around, because often we are.</p>
<p>As far as why you should worship God, I just pray the Holy Spirit works in you as it has in me and helps lead you to a life with more meaning, a higher purpose, and solid answers about life you&#8217;re not going to find elsewhere.  If you&#8217;ve got such fundamental questions rattling around unanswered, I feel for you.  I&#8217;ve been there, and it gnawed on me continuously.</p>
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		<title>By: Tillie</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92510</link>
		<dc:creator>Tillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92510</guid>
		<description>Patty

Why do we have to worship ANYBODY?  Live your life so that you can look yourself in the mirror without cringing (except for all the wrinkles, of course).

Help your neighbor shovel snow, cut their lawn if needed, bathe often enough so as not to have BO, use your turn signal at any and all turns, left or right, don't breath on people after eating garlicky food and especially not after smoking.

And, Anonymous, I'll let you rejoice in your sufferings.  If they've made you a better person, rejoice even more.   But, please, do not inflict suffering on other people in order give them perseverance and character.  Please!

As for Bob Marshall -----I'm speechless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty</p>
<p>Why do we have to worship ANYBODY?  Live your life so that you can look yourself in the mirror without cringing (except for all the wrinkles, of course).</p>
<p>Help your neighbor shovel snow, cut their lawn if needed, bathe often enough so as not to have BO, use your turn signal at any and all turns, left or right, don&#8217;t breath on people after eating garlicky food and especially not after smoking.</p>
<p>And, Anonymous, I&#8217;ll let you rejoice in your sufferings.  If they&#8217;ve made you a better person, rejoice even more.   But, please, do not inflict suffering on other people in order give them perseverance and character.  Please!</p>
<p>As for Bob Marshall &#8212;&#8211;I&#8217;m speechless!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92493</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92493</guid>
		<description>I think of trials in these terms, Romans 5:3 &#38; 4, Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4 perseverance, character; and character, hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of trials in these terms, Romans 5:3 &amp; 4, Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4 perseverance, character; and character, hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92490</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92490</guid>
		<description>First of all, it is not uncommon for the local media to have an anti-Christian bias.  Therefore, if they are reporting on someone who is known to be a Christian, it is not surprising that only snippets taken out of context get reported.  I've seen that before.

I know for a fact that abortions can cause infertility...  not in every case but in quite a number of them.  I have friends who had abortions and I've listened to testimonies from women who had aboritons.  Not only is a baby's life terminated but there is physical trauma to the mother...also emotional.  I know some of you would disagree but there is also emotional trauma to the father especially later.

As far as God, punishment and the Bible goes.....we live in a sin corrupted world.  I'll repeat that: WE LIVE IN A SIN CORRUPTED WORLD.  Just the fact that one day you will die is proof of that.  When Adam and Eve decided to have life without God they brought sin into the world.  Just as there are consequences when God's physical laws of nature are broken (ex. gravity) there are consequences when God's moral laws are broken.  We reap the consequences when we sin, when someone sins against us and just by living in a sin corrupted world.  It's like pollution.

I believe Greg was quoting from Deuteronomy 5:9 (in reference to Moses repeating the 10 commandments to the children of Israel; specifically about worshipping idols, i.e. worshipping something other than the true God): "'You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations  of those who hate Me,"

The key words are "those who hate Me."  Everyone is repsonsible to God for their own sin.  How often I've seen children pick up and do the same sins as their parents.  That's what happens when God is not in their life. So God is only "visiting the iniquity" (consequences) on those who hate Him who have picked up and repeated the rebellious sins of their parents.

In one sense Leah was right when quoting John 9:3.  Let's go a little further with John 9:1-5:  As He (Jesus) passed by, He saw a man blind from birth. And His disciples asked Him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?" Jesus answered, "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents; but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the LIght of the world."  Jesus healed many to show that He was sent by God and that He is the Son of God, God in the flesh.  The blind man was blind because as I said before it is due to living in a sin polluted world.  Jesus came to save us from our sins and to forgive us.  He demonstrated that by healing people.

Also, none of us are righteous.  Adam and Eve died spirtually when they chose life (really death) apart from God.  Spiritually dead people can not have spiriturally alive children; so we inherited a rebellious sin nature.  None of us is righteous in God's eyes.  But God in His mercy and grace sent His Son Jesus to take our sins upon Himself and die on a cross to pay for them because He loves us very much (John 3:16)!  The God/man Jesus Christ took all of our sins and paid for them Himself so that we can have eternal life and so we can be with Him forever... where there will be no more tears, no more suffering, no more disease and no more death (Revelation21:3-5).  That is Good News!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, it is not uncommon for the local media to have an anti-Christian bias.  Therefore, if they are reporting on someone who is known to be a Christian, it is not surprising that only snippets taken out of context get reported.  I&#8217;ve seen that before.</p>
<p>I know for a fact that abortions can cause infertility&#8230;  not in every case but in quite a number of them.  I have friends who had abortions and I&#8217;ve listened to testimonies from women who had aboritons.  Not only is a baby&#8217;s life terminated but there is physical trauma to the mother&#8230;also emotional.  I know some of you would disagree but there is also emotional trauma to the father especially later.</p>
<p>As far as God, punishment and the Bible goes&#8230;..we live in a sin corrupted world.  I&#8217;ll repeat that: WE LIVE IN A SIN CORRUPTED WORLD.  Just the fact that one day you will die is proof of that.  When Adam and Eve decided to have life without God they brought sin into the world.  Just as there are consequences when God&#8217;s physical laws of nature are broken (ex. gravity) there are consequences when God&#8217;s moral laws are broken.  We reap the consequences when we sin, when someone sins against us and just by living in a sin corrupted world.  It&#8217;s like pollution.</p>
<p>I believe Greg was quoting from Deuteronomy 5:9 (in reference to Moses repeating the 10 commandments to the children of Israel; specifically about worshipping idols, i.e. worshipping something other than the true God): &#8220;&#8216;You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations  of those who hate Me,&#8221;</p>
<p>The key words are &#8220;those who hate Me.&#8221;  Everyone is repsonsible to God for their own sin.  How often I&#8217;ve seen children pick up and do the same sins as their parents.  That&#8217;s what happens when God is not in their life. So God is only &#8220;visiting the iniquity&#8221; (consequences) on those who hate Him who have picked up and repeated the rebellious sins of their parents.</p>
<p>In one sense Leah was right when quoting John 9:3.  Let&#8217;s go a little further with John 9:1-5:  As He (Jesus) passed by, He saw a man blind from birth. And His disciples asked Him, &#8220;Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?&#8221; Jesus answered, &#8220;It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents; but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the LIght of the world.&#8221;  Jesus healed many to show that He was sent by God and that He is the Son of God, God in the flesh.  The blind man was blind because as I said before it is due to living in a sin polluted world.  Jesus came to save us from our sins and to forgive us.  He demonstrated that by healing people.</p>
<p>Also, none of us are righteous.  Adam and Eve died spirtually when they chose life (really death) apart from God.  Spiritually dead people can not have spiriturally alive children; so we inherited a rebellious sin nature.  None of us is righteous in God&#8217;s eyes.  But God in His mercy and grace sent His Son Jesus to take our sins upon Himself and die on a cross to pay for them because He loves us very much (John 3:16)!  The God/man Jesus Christ took all of our sins and paid for them Himself so that we can have eternal life and so we can be with Him forever&#8230; where there will be no more tears, no more suffering, no more disease and no more death (Revelation21:3-5).  That is Good News!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92489</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2010/02/22/open-thread-48/#comment-92489</guid>
		<description>To Ayn Rand, WHAT I SAID: “FACT: All throughout history, it’s been PROVEN that the easiest way to control the “population” is to keep them at each others throats!”


What YOU READ: Yours was “History is FULL of examples”


Like I said, BLANKS !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ayn Rand, WHAT I SAID: “FACT: All throughout history, it’s been PROVEN that the easiest way to control the “population” is to keep them at each others throats!”</p>
<p>What YOU READ: Yours was “History is FULL of examples”</p>
<p>Like I said, BLANKS !!!!!</p>
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