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By Greg L | 22 June 2010 | Uncategorized | 47 Comments

While I’m backed up on projects perhaps readers can start the conversation…



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47 Comments

  1. obamaistoast said on 22 Jun 2010 at 1:11 pm:
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    Anyone hear of a female census worker being assaulted in WB?

  2. Oh No! said on 22 Jun 2010 at 3:04 pm:
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    Anabel Park is still a marxist.

  3. legal2 said on 22 Jun 2010 at 3:35 pm:
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    An appeal to support the Virginia Rule of Law Act:

    “This morning I appeared on Fox & Friends with Steve Doocy. You can watch the video here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWWFkbFzSuY I was updating Virginia and the nation on our efforts to promote the Virginia Rule of Law Act and bring Arizona style illegal immigration enforcement to Virginia.

    Please take a moment to sign the on-line petition at http://coreystewart.com/ ruleoflaw and ask 10 friends to do the same. You can also join The Rule of Law Campaign on Facebook and invite all of your friends to join us as well.

    Nearly 3 years ago Prince William County blazed a trail by implementing the most aggressive anti-illegal immigration policies at the local level in the nation. We’ve seen the results:

    •37% drop in violent crime in the first two years of enforcement,
    •Overall crime is at a 15 year low.
    Criminal Aliens have fled Prince William County. But where did they go?

    Unfortunately, they fled to other Virginia localities. Arizona has led the way in pushing for a statewide solution.

    We need to bring the Arizona Law to Virginia. Will you join me in supporting the Virginia Rule of Law Act?

    Please join the cause today!

    –Corey

    Corey A. Stewart”
    Chairman, PWC Board of Supervisors

  4. obamaistoast said on 22 Jun 2010 at 3:46 pm:
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    Hillary Clinton is still a cunt and Michelle Obama is still ugly - what does that have to do with anything?

  5. Big Dog said on 22 Jun 2010 at 4:14 pm:
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    “For the protection of the equality of our American citizenship
    and of the wages of our workingmen, against the fatal competition
    of low-priced labor, we demand immigration laws be throughly
    enforced, and so extended as to exclude from entrance to the
    United States those who can neither read nor write English.”
    Platform Plank of the Republican Party, 1896

    “The admitted right of a government to prevent the influx of
    elements hostile to its internal peace and security may not
    be questioned …”
    President Grover Cleveland, 1885

    125 years ago we were united, Republican and Democrat, on
    protecting our borders.

  6. Ronald said on 22 Jun 2010 at 4:17 pm:
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    Now both parties are unified in keeping our borders open… allowing millions to simply walk across.

  7. Patty said on 22 Jun 2010 at 4:34 pm:
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    And you thought that overcrowding of homes devalues your property…..

    Coming your way soon: http://www.medcottage.com/

    Thanks to your local state delegation (HB 1307) grandma pods will be allowed on properties zoned single family residence. The BOCS will have to change the code because the current code states that only one dwelling is allowed on a property zoned single family. Because of HB 1307 there now can be two dwellings on a lot.

    The Rev. Dupin appears to have a patent on these healthcare structures. He will probably make a mint off of this. Of course his web site indicates that franchises will be available.

    These are officially called “temporary” healthcare structures but can be on a property for as long as 50 years or more depending on how long a mentally impaired person lives.

    You can write to thank Delegate Miller and Delegate Bob Marshall for allowing the state to micro manage localities zoning ordinances.

    Maybe the Rev. Dupin got the idea for these pods from watching illegal aliens living in backyard tool sheds…….

  8. citizenofmanassas said on 22 Jun 2010 at 4:38 pm:
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    Tejada said by raising concerns, the County Board was not trying to absolve immigrants who get into trouble with the law - “no one is defending criminals,” he said - but rather to stem an overreaction against “people who are otherwise good members of our society.”

    this guy is a nut. He says nobody is defending criminals? Really? that’s exactly what he is doing, here. I’m sure many criminals are otherwise good members of society. The key word is otherwise, why does he have to qualify that with the word “otherwise”? Because these people have broken the law.

  9. Pendragon said on 22 Jun 2010 at 5:03 pm:
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    there was only one no vote. I think elder care was the important factor here. Mr. Marshall has worked hard for the elderly. Good for him and Delegate Miller.

  10. Patty said on 22 Jun 2010 at 5:15 pm:
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    Pen,

    I personally believe that the family member should be in the house and not put in the backyard next to the dog house.

    By the way, even families keep their dogs in their own house.

    As far as zoning goes - this should have been dealt with at the local level so there could be a public hearing instead of the state lording it over localities.

  11. Right to Know said on 22 Jun 2010 at 5:37 pm:
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    It is disgusting what there so called Legislators are doing to us.A shack in the back yard to put elderly or anyone who needs assistance is appaling. Wonder if Marshall will put his father or father-in-law in one of these shacks?

    It even said that one who rents and if they are a care giver,they can get one of these shacks! Well does it say the owner has to approve this?Or do we open this for those who rent to do as they want with someone elses property?

    Well instead of having 2 or 3 sheds in the back yard now we can have a shack,so a care giver can make money and never leave home!

    I heard that Obama wants to turn us into the slums of Mexico, are we going to give him that chance?

  12. Right to Know said on 22 Jun 2010 at 5:44 pm:
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    Some one needs to run against this Walter and Chris and any other person who thinks they can tell people what to do. The problem started with Arl.becoming a Sanctuary.
    The Residents need to throw them all out.

    We do not need Illegal Aliens. Thats what we are talking about. We are not talking about Immigrants per say.

    The other side likes to hook them all together and they are not. Many,Many of our Immigrants are good abiding citizens and do not want the Illegals here.

    They have broken the Law by sneaking across the Border.

    Any Citizen who can not see this does not need to be in Public Office.

    Lets get them cleaned out now.

  13. Jeff Hunter said on 22 Jun 2010 at 7:15 pm:
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    Oh good grief . . . I just got this from my health insurance provider:

    “First, there is no change until January 1, 2011. However, beginning January 1, 2011, a doctor’s prescription will be required in order for you to receive reimbursement of expenses incurred when purchasing certain commonly used over-the-counter (OTC) medicines like Claritin, Advil and Robitussin cough syrup. Because the new law requires a prescription for these types of items before we can reimburse you from your account, you will no longer be able to make these purchases using your take care® Flexible Benefits card.”

    You meant to tell me that in the midst of an economic crisis, rising unemployment, and two wars, the nit wits in Congress had nothing better to do than craft legislation that specifies that a doctor now has to sign off on me buying cough syrup for my family if I want my insurance company to cover it.

    Every incumbent in both houses should be thrown out at the next opportunity. The Democrats for shoving this nonsense down our throats and the Republicans for being so inept when they were in power and not having the stones to keep this from happening.

  14. Dave said on 22 Jun 2010 at 7:29 pm:
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    Fire & Police EVERYWHERE on Dublin Drive in Manassas. Neigbors report smell of Gas. I didnt smell any. Was wondering if anyone knew what might be up?

  15. Dave said on 22 Jun 2010 at 7:30 pm:
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    Fire TRUCKS that is. :)

  16. Tillie said on 22 Jun 2010 at 7:40 pm:
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    RtK at5:37 pm

    Where, may I ask, did you hear that Obama wants to turn us into the slums of Mexico?
    Source, please!

    Jeff Hunter:

    Would you really want to be so dependent on an insurance company that you’d try to get money for OTC cough syrup?

  17. Sweet Tea 4 Me said on 22 Jun 2010 at 7:59 pm:
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    Tea party time this Friday at 7pm in old town! Who is in?

  18. Cynic said on 22 Jun 2010 at 8:28 pm:
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    On the Home Front -

    Time to pull the troops out of Iraq, Afghanistan and all the other foreign bases where we have troops. These troops are required here on mainland USA to defend us against the invaders from South of the Border.

    Considering that the South of the Border invaders have now captured and occupy a southern beachhead in our former Southwest, I would think that our military should prepared for a simultaneous, amphibious assault on both the East and West Coasts. However, we and our military must be ever vigil as these coastal assaults may be only a diversionary tactic. There is a high probability that the main thrust of their attack may be directed along the Mississippi River with the objective of establishing a beachhead on both the east and west sides of the Mississippi River. Thus, dividing the Country.

    Some light reading material -

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-crises_-Obama-declares-war—-on-Arizona-96839529.html

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9GGG1G00&show_article=1

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/22/mexican-gangs-permanent-lookouts-parkland/

    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/june-21-2010/senators-challenge-pres-obama-rumors-executive-order-amnesty.html

    http://www.breitbart.tv/az-cops-threatened-by-drug-cartel-snipers-at-border/

  19. Jon Wong said on 22 Jun 2010 at 9:08 pm:
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    Hey obamaistoast… You start sound like Kevin Cee. Customers miss Kevin Cee. Customers no happy. But Otoast may be make customers laugh to.

  20. Citizen12 said on 22 Jun 2010 at 11:12 pm:
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    Anyone who supports the posistion of illegal aliens entering or residing in and / or staying in the United States for any reason is an enemy of America. Period.

    There is nothing to discuss. Discussion gave us the cold war and half of Europe in chaines. Discussion led to the destruction of Rhodesia and the creation of Zimbabwe. We need a sovereign nation, not a U.N. approved colonization of the United States of America.

  21. TiredOfIt said on 22 Jun 2010 at 11:31 pm:
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    I had to go to Giant at 234 and Lomond Drive on Sunday night, at around 8:50pm. I went in and grabbed my purchases, and made my way out to my car. I got about four cars into the parking lot, and I noticed this guy standing next to his car with his kid. He was letting the kid PEE INTO THE WHEEL WELL of the car. Then, after the kid finishes, THEY WALK INTO THE STORE. They have public bathrooms there. If it had been a situation where the store was closed, then I could MAYBE see letting the kid do this. But couldn’t the guy have opened the car door to shield the kid from view? Or parked behind the shopping center and done it? I am tired of living among these damn illegal animals. Who else thinks this crap is unacceptable? What would you have done?

  22. Pendragon said on 23 Jun 2010 at 12:18 am:
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    Patty, different families have different circumstances. You noticed that the pods are temporary and you must be related. But my point was why single out our legislators. Only 1 person voted no.

  23. Anonymous said on 23 Jun 2010 at 4:59 am:
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    obamaistoast is the replacement to KevinDB?

  24. mpcinsider said on 23 Jun 2010 at 6:29 am:
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    On the MP rec center closing for cleaning/repairs it seems the pool was drained. What the heck is that all about? Less than 6 months after opening they drained the pool for what? Did it get that dirty in that amount of time? How can the Freedom Center run their aquatic center better than MPs? Are there more dirty people living in MP than in PWC? Or was the building built too fast and there is an underlining issue of safety?

    Where will the rec center get its money from if no camps run and extended care numbers continue to fall during the summer break? Also with dwindling membership I think the rec center is a black hole of money losing scam. There is no way that the rec center is breaking even this summer with the amount of staffs that is on the payroll and the cost of running the building. The numbers are not adding up and it is going to get worse.

    One final note: Please attend the Manassas city fireworks for a better time. The MP will have events over at the city center to attract business (never will happen). It seems that the parking at the city center will run you $10 and at city hall $5. Also Signal hill park will close at 6pm that day no one will be able to view the fireworks from that area.

    Also the city better cut their budget further and lay off the schools budget or teacher and families will start leaving if more cuts in the school budget continue. I have heard of at least 15 teachers ready to walk if there are more cuts also many Blooms families will have to walk their children to the schools since budget cuts will affect busing.

  25. Anonymous said on 23 Jun 2010 at 6:42 am:
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    The email I got from the rec center last night said they were installing a disability railing in the pool and several of the areas of the rec center were going to be reopened today. I guess the railing would explain the pool drainage, unless they were installing with scuba gear. The email is below.

    “Good Afternoon Community Center Members,

    I’m pleased to inform you that we will be opening the following portions of the Community Center tomorrow morning at 6:00 AM: fitness center, multi-purpose rooms, and classrooms. In addition, half of the gym will open at 12:00 PM as minor cleaning continues to take place. The remainder of the gym will be complete by late afternoon (5:00 PM).

    We regret to inform you that the Indoor Pool will remain closed until Monday June, 28th as we continue the process of installing a disability rail as well as completing several outstanding punch list items. We appreciate your patience and consideration throughout this process and hope to see you back at the Community Center this week.

    Thank you.”

  26. Jeff Hunter said on 23 Jun 2010 at 6:48 am:
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    Tillie,

    I’m not dependent on my insurance company. These are my Flexible Saving Account (FSA) $$$s that I’m talking about - pre-tax dollars that I’ve EARNED and set aside for medical expenses. In 2003 the FSA rules were amended to allow folks to use FSAs to pay for OTC drugs and medical items. This was done so that folks wouldn’t loose their FSA funds if they weren’t all spent by the end of the year. Now Nanny Sam says I need a doctor’s OK to go buy cough syrup or allergy relief WITH MY OWN MONEY.

  27. Patty said on 23 Jun 2010 at 8:07 am:
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    Pendragon,

    I stand by my earlier statement. Local jurisdictions should have say on these grandma pods. There would have been opportunity for a public hearing. Instead the state is taking a cue from our Federal government and has decided to lord it over us with a SPECIFIC zoninig ordinance.

    Temporary means that these structures will not have a foundation. It doesn’t mean they will be on a property for any specific time period. They can be on a lot for years and years depending on how long a person lives- long enough to affect neighbors’ property values especially since these structures can be put in high density neighborhoods where lots are a quarter acre and less. With a number of these in a high density neighborhood the area would start to look like a trailer park.

    I suppose you support sticking grandma in the back yard with the dog. You still have overlooked the fact that Rev. Dupin stands to make a fortune especially since it appears he has a patent on these structures. $2000.00 a month for years and years is quite a bit of money. Since he has no prototype, it’s possible the rent will be more than $2000.00 a month.

    Why don’t you ask Steve Griffin about these things? - or could it be that you don’t know who Mr. Griffin is. You sound like someone from the local delegation.

    Just one more thought. I wonder how Obamacare figures into this. I imagine that the neighbors whose property values will tank because of these structures next door will be the very ones who will end up paying for them because of Obamacare.

    The citizen has been trampled on again.

  28. Pendragon said on 23 Jun 2010 at 10:46 am:
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    The local delegation was elected by the people of the area. Virginians shouldn’t have to sell their house and move to care for an injured spouse or aging parent who cannot navigate stairs. Part of the appeal of the pods is handicap accessibility.

    God forbid that a person should live a long time and decrease someone’s property value.

    Good for Delegates Jackson, Marshall, and Lingamfelter for watching out for seniors and others who need our help. This county already proved that seniors are the first budgetary item to go.

  29. Pendragon said on 23 Jun 2010 at 10:52 am:
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    Make that Delegate Jackson Miller. sorry about that. IPhone.

  30. nonconformistmartha said on 23 Jun 2010 at 1:01 pm:
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    mpcinsider and anonymous 642am–
    Another reason they drained the pool was to fix the expansion caulking along the floor of the pool. It was done incorrectly the first time and did not cure properly. This is the fault of the contractors, not the community center management.
    But you are right in the the building was thrown together too fast. There are still several safety issues yet to be addressed. And it is losing money fast, but they are trying to bring in more revenue.
    I work there, this is how I know.

  31. MPWitch said on 23 Jun 2010 at 3:41 pm:
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    So Martha
    Can you tell us why Signal Hill Park, a public park supported by taxpayers, was closed to the public on Sun 6/20? The whole park was closed to the public(taxpayers) and to families with season tickets to the water park for a private party.

  32. nonconformistmartha said on 23 Jun 2010 at 5:01 pm:
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    The almighty dollar. If the private party was willing to pay more than what the water park could generate in revenue in a day, then of course they’re going to do it.

  33. Patty said on 23 Jun 2010 at 5:30 pm:
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    pendragon,

    Heaven forbid that a family member should live inside the caregiver’s home! So you want to put grandma in the backyard like putting the lawn mower in the tool shed. So you want to relegate grandma to the backyard with the dog. Oh but wait, the dog stays in the house but grandma has to stay outside.

    These pods are just a gimmick to assuage the guilt of those who can’t stand to have their family member inside their house. They can’t look upon their love ones infirmity. They don’t want to hear the noises or messes that grandma may make. They don’t want to interact with grandma. They just want to put her into a glorified dog house so they can say they are taking care of grandma. A poster on another blog likened these pods to prison cells.

    So you don’t think property values are important to homeowners. Heaven forbid that a homeowner needs to get a home equity loan to pay for their child’s college tuition bill. Heaven forbid that a homeowner needs a home equity loan to pay for a new roof because the old one is in disrepair. Heaven forbid that the homeowner needs a equity loan to repair a water main leak. Heaven forbid that the car breaks down and the homeowner needs a loan to get another one so he can get to work.

    So you don’t think property values are important to the county. Try telling that to the BOCS and they’ll laugh at your face. Sounds like you were not affected by the foreclosure crisis. Do you live in a ritzy neighborhood in the City of Manassas? Do you live in the “promised land” in the western part of the county? Don’t cry if the county has to cut services because property values tank.

    What amazing timing Rev. Dupin has. He just happens to get his pod company rolling just in time for Obamacare. He manages to convince his state delegate (who I understand wanted to buy shares in his company) to push for these pods. Yes, Rev. Dupin managed to have zoning laws changed to accomodate his patented pods. If anyone tries to build something similar I’m sure he will sue for patent infringement. There are plenty of patent lawyers around.

    Let’s look at some numbers. $2,000.00 a month for let’s say 20 years. That would be $480,000.00. And that’s for one unit. Since we have Obamacare, the caregiver just needs to show the doctor’s prescription and then we the taxpayers will be footing the bill. Yes, the neighbors will be footing the bill for the pod while the pod devalues their property.

    Why don’t you take your liberal dribble somewhere else?

    And don’t give me that crap about how these pods address issues that can’t be solved by having grandma in the house. I’ve had experience with family members who were impaired.

    But here is the bigger issue that you fail to address- the state government passing SPECIFIC zoning ordinances so they can micro manage localities. That is the big underlying problem. No chance for public hearings - NONE AT ALL!!!

  34. FedUp said on 23 Jun 2010 at 6:12 pm:
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    NumbersUSA posted a letter on Monday from GOP Sen. Grassley and seven other Republican Senators challenging the White House on rumors of illegal alien-amnesty-by-executive order. The gist of it:

    “We understand that there’s a push for your Administration to develop a plan to unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States. We understand that the Administration may include aliens who have willfully overstayed their visas or filed for benefits knowing that they will not be eligible for a status for years to come. We understand that deferred action and parole are discretionary actions reserved for individual cases that present unusual, emergent or humanitarian circumstances. Deferred action and parole were not intended to be used to confer a status or offer protection to large groups of illegal aliens, even if the agency claims that they look at each case on a “case-by-case” basis.

    While we agree our immigration laws need to be fixed, we are deeply concerned about the potential expansion of deferred action or parole for a large illegal alien population. While deferred action and parole are Executive Branch authorities, they should not be used to circumvent Congress’ constitutional authority to legislate immigration policy, particularly as it relates to the illegal population in the United States.”

    This administration has accomplished its major policy agenda items through force, fiat, and fraud. Immigration will be no different.

    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/june-21-2010/senators-challenge-pres-obama-rumors-executive-order-amnesty.html

  35. FED UP said on 23 Jun 2010 at 6:40 pm:
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    Where are all of the environmentalists with regard to the gulf oil hemerage?
    Where are all of the tree huggers?
    Where is everyone?
    Why aren’t they screaming and yelling at the tops of their lungs?
    What an unforgivable DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. Disgusted said on 23 Jun 2010 at 6:47 pm:
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    Jon Wong - LMAO! You are brilliant!
    New topic. Is Mr. Cuccinelli still ordering new stationary for his office with the Seal of Virginia using armor to cover the breast of Virtus? THAT’S wise use of taxpayer money!

  37. jon wong said on 23 Jun 2010 at 7:27 pm:
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    Hey..tiredofit…may be your car looklike bush? that why kid pee on it?? Anomus :that kevin C not keveinDB. Kevin C. make customer laugh. Customer sad since he leave. Kevin C hide now. Customer sad!!!! Come back Kevin c. call every body name. Yell at paul nicles. Coustomer love.
    You give bruce lee many happy customer.

  38. jon wong said on 23 Jun 2010 at 7:31 pm:
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    Disgust, Kookoonelli hide womyn gentiles? jon no like.

  39. What are we becoming? said on 23 Jun 2010 at 8:33 pm:
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    Well I see Rev. Du -pin is making himself some money. Wonder if he’s a VOICE member? The VOICE people are good at talking a good talk but do nothing to help anyone but themselves.

    The sick and the elderly in the back yard.? Those Legislators should be hung.

    Most people have the elderly and the sick in their homes as they get better care than being at a Nursing Home or such facilities. Our Facilities are a disgrace to have your loved one in there for very long.
    Why would anyone think this shack in the back yard will even begin to give the patient, parent or loved one a better chance? That care giver should be run out of town on a rail!

    This Law needs to be recinded now.This is absolutly awful that any elected Legislator voted for this crime ridden Law.

    The Care giver doesn’t care about the sick or elderly,they want it for the money,just like Rev.Du-pin.He really is a Du-pin!

  40. Anonymous said on 23 Jun 2010 at 9:50 pm:
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    “Why aren’t they screaming and yelling at the tops of their lungs?”

    Because oil bin berry berry good por me.

    Ah … how times have change … back in the day the progressive cap n’ tax enviro greenies were singing the praises of BP, otherwise known as Beyond Petroleum… because all those enviro groups were getting their fat cash cut of the oil money…BP paid them off to get them off their back and touted the whole green agenda for the same reason…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2010/06/23/flashback-obamas-secretary-of-energy-says-bp-is-going-to-help-us-save-the-world/

  41. mpcinsider said on 24 Jun 2010 at 6:24 am:
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    hey nonconformistmartha than you know why someone was reassigned to city hall. If you there you also know what type of work enivorment has been in place since the director has taken over. Also the director stated the rec center was to be pay for itself and did not need money from the city. So far that has not been the case. Your camps are not going ot run with less then 5 kids in them and the rec center will still have employees on the payroll why no camps are running. with $10k utility bill every month I don’t see where the money is coming in except for some rentals. And for that handicap rail that should have been done during construction so how did the inspector miss that item. Hmmm.. maybe there was a big rush to open pool and short cuts were taken.

  42. mpcinsider said on 24 Jun 2010 at 8:34 am:
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    MP should follow this city example and throw in trhe towel.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/06/sheriffs-dept-to-patrol-maywood-while-city-employees-now-face-lay-offs.html

  43. Anonymous said on 24 Jun 2010 at 8:12 pm:
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    no, I meant kevin db, not kevin c…same person, but more accurately described

  44. Pendragon said on 27 Jun 2010 at 9:19 pm:
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    Leave yelling and screaming to the idiots. What would that accomplish?
    Listening and learning makes more sesnse than running you mouth

  45. Cynic said on 28 Jun 2010 at 8:28 pm:
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    mpcinsider,

    Throw in the towel? Maybe they should throw a big, big, canvas towel over Maywood!

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=172121

    And, the city of Filthadelphia will no longer give ICE agents access to the city’s arrest records.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20100628_Philadelphia_to_bar_immigration_agents_from_arrest_data.html

    Nothing but Good News!

  46. Anonymous said on 1 Jul 2010 at 7:47 am:
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    No, indeed;”When President Obama promised in his inaugural address to “restore science to its rightful place,” he never explained what that rightful place would be.”

    http://article.nationalreview.com/437296/kagans-abortion-distortion/shannen-w-coffin?page=1

    http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/kagan-concocted-medical-claim-justify-partial-birth-abortion

    “Kagan Wrote The Partial Birth Abortion Language For The American College Of Obstetricians and Gynecologists to Add in Bogus Claims…”

    “Yes, you read the headline correctly. A “woman” with absolutely no medical background re-wrote the American College of OBGYNs paper on partial-birth abortion because the truth would be a “disaster to the cause”…

    (NRO)- It seems that the most important statement in the famous position paper of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists—a 1996 document that was central to the case of partial-birth-abortion defenders for the subsequent decade and played a major role in a number of court cases and political battles—was drafted not by an impartial committee of physicians, as both ACOG and the pro-abortion lobby claimed for years, but by Elena Kagan, who was then the deputy assistant to the president for domestic policy.

    Kagan saw ACOG’s original paper, which did not include the claim that partial-birth abortion “may be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman,” but, on the contrary, said that ACOG “could identify no circumstances under which this procedure . . . would be the only option to save the life or preserve the health of the woman.”

    She wrote a memo to two White House colleagues noting that this language would be “a disaster” for the cause of partial-birth abortion, and she then set out to do something about it. In notes released by the White House it now looks as though Kagan herself—a senior Clinton White House staffer with no medical background—proposed the “may be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman” language, and sent it to ACOG, which then included that language in its final statement.

    What’s described in these memos is easily the most serious and flagrant violation of the boundary between scientific expertise and politics I have ever encountered. A White House official formulating a substantive policy position for a supposedly impartial physicians’ group, and a position at odds with what that group’s own policy committee had actually concluded? You have to wonder where all the defenders of science—those intrepid guardians of the freedom of inquiry who throughout the Bush years wailed about the supposed politicization of scientific research and expertise—are now. If the Bush White House (in which I served as a domestic policy staffer) had ever done anything even close to this it would have been declared a monumental scandal, and rightly so.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/2010/06/29/elena-kagan-wrote-the-partial-birth-abortion-language-for-the-american-college-of-obstetricians-and-gynecologists-to-add-in-bogus-claims/

    Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar also pulled this doctoring science stunt “for the cause”.

    http://www.newsok.com/article/3471209

    And lest we forget all the fiddling with scientific data that went on to promote the jack boot global warming/climate change “cause”.

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