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Freedom Fest Kicks Out Conservative Blogger

By Greg L | 28 June 2010 | National Politics, Virginia Politics, Blogs | 33 Comments

Jim Hoeft over at Bearing Drift gets kicked out of the Freedom Fest in Hampton Roads just as Sarah Palin starts speaking???

Beware, patriots.  When big-name organizers tightly associated with one political party try to create their own Tea Party type events, don’t ever think that they give a damn about the real grassroots.  It’s one thing for grassroots to invite some elected officials to speak at a Tea Party rally because of their accomplishments.  It’s another thing to have them or their operatives manufacture an event they feel they have to tightly control, and in so doing throw previously invited Conservative bloggers out for taking a few photos and liveblogging the event.

J.R. Hoeft: We’re being kicked out. So much for transparency.

How mind-boggling stupid can you get?

Well, this makes it official for me.  Sarah Palin sucks.  I’d had my doubts about her before, and I was giving her the benefit of a doubt, but this seals the deal.  I’m hoping General Stanley McChrystal runs for president and turns out to be a no-nonsense conservative warrior with the will and the determination to remove that bumbling idiot Obama from the White House and put these poseurs in their place.  As for Palin, she and the rest of the idiots trying to latch on to the Tea Party movement are fortunately demonstrating pretty clearly what a bunch of fakes they are and they can go to hell for all I care.  I’m not going to help them latch onto a grassroots movement in order to advance their own personal agendas.

Seriously, this is beyond stupid.



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33 Comments

  1. Wolverine said on 28 Jun 2010 at 2:11 am:
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    Before all the mud gets slung around, can we get some more detail on how and why Jim Hoeft was asked or forced to leave the premises? Greg, you make it sound like Sarah came over and personally planted the sharp tip of her Italian shoes in Hoeft’s privates. Is there any further explanation available or is that one liner from Hoeft all we get?

  2. Bob Bruhns said on 28 Jun 2010 at 2:45 am:
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    The Tea Party will probably be hijacked, if it hasn’t already. There is all this energy behind it, but here comes the flip! The bait will be switched, and the people will be tricked into supporting the same old same old. It will take years for them to see what happened - and by then, (1) a huge amount of damage will be done, and (2) there will be no coherent alternative leadership for the movement, just a power struggle, with the same forces working to hijack it again. What is needed is a single leadership and a single platform and a single voice. Right now it is ripe for the hijack, and don’t think for a second that the wonks aren’t right there doing it. I think Hoeft got the message already.

    Think! The Tea Party… what exactly is it? What exactly does it stand for? Who really speaks for it? Sarah Palin, sheesh, Saturday Night Live got it right with her, and she is being put up there now, but I believe that even she will be pushed aside when the time comes.

    Personally, I hope that the Tea Party hangs together. I hope that the people see what is happening with the crooked wonks that are trying to take over, and push them right out of the movement. But I am afraid that they will not.

  3. anon said on 28 Jun 2010 at 5:25 am:
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    McChrystal supposedly voted for Obama, banned Fox at his HQ, and went along with or instituted those ridiculous rules of engagement. Are you sure about his conservativism? I wouldn’t be too quick with jumping on McChrystal’s bandwagon much less Palin’s. It’s way too early to decide. I’ll just sit back and keep watching the show.

  4. Rez said on 28 Jun 2010 at 6:34 am:
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    Bob Bruhns, I certainly agree with you. The biggest strength of the Tea Party is also its biggest weakness. In an effort to shy away from assembling a leadership in the hopes of staying completely grassroots, it starts to appear that people don’t know what it stands for and more basically, what Tea Party organization is the actual organization. Without a clearcut definition of policy goals, people that are looking at the “organization” don’t know which Tea Party is the real Tea Party. Thus it is ripe for hijacking.

  5. Groveton said on 28 Jun 2010 at 6:47 am:
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    A bit off topic for the post but not for the site … BaconsRebellion has a rather liveral view of what’s happened in Prince William County written by a left-leaning journalist from Chesterfield County (Richmond suburb). I have tried to inject some basic facts into the argument but thought some of you might want to provide first hand commentary:

    http://baconsrebellion.blogspot.com/2010/06/corey-stewarts-bad-idea.html

  6. O. P. Ditch said on 28 Jun 2010 at 8:13 am:
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    Somebody is stretching this and wrongly pointing to Sarah Palin! for Hoeft not following the rules set by the promoters.

    This was NOT billed as “Tea Party” and I don’t think it was put together by Sarah Palin.

    “FreedomFest 2010
    A SALUTE TO OUR MILITARY AND FIRST RESPONDERS
    with
    Sarah Palin
    George Allen
    Oliver North
    Lee Greenwood”

    http://www.freedom1650.com/

    Jim Hoeft, & Greg, get your facts straight.

    It was promoted by a Radio Talk Show host, not a tea party. http://www.stevebatton.com/

    When was George Allen or Ollie North ever featured at a Tea Party? Maybe, but I can’t remember.

  7. O. P. Ditch said on 28 Jun 2010 at 8:18 am:
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    From: http://www.conservatives4palin.com/

    “Bearing Drift, the “Palin People” Did Not Kick You Out
    By Ian Lazaran

    A blogger for the “Bearing Drift” blog claims that he was “kicked out by the Palin people” at the Freedom Fest that concluded a couple of hours ago. Unless it was Willow Palin who kicked you out, it was not the “Palin people” as she did not have any one from her staff with her other than her daughter.

    I’ll tentatively agree with the blogger that it wasn’t a good idea by the Freedom Fest people to kick out an ally. However, the blogger should not cast blame on a party that wasn’t even in attendance.”

    Posted 12:08 AM , 8 comments
    Labels: Freedom Fest, Virginia

  8. O. P. Ditch said on 28 Jun 2010 at 8:57 am:
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    More info from a source in Norfolk:

    OP, Please review post at C4P and let them know. Palin had nothing to do with the blogger’s being thrown out. She had NO “people” there with her. The event rules were that there was to be no recording devices or verbatim reporting of ANY speech by reporters or bloggers. This guy was tweeting exact quotes of speeches all day. He was outted by a fellow blogger. It just so happens the organizers found him and escorted him out just as Palin was introduced. It had absolutely nothing to do with her. The guy broke the rules and it was discovered during the prior speaker. They waited for him to finish before escorting the culprit out.

  9. Anonymous said on 28 Jun 2010 at 9:06 am:
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    She teamed up and still defends McCain. That is enough for me. I hope more people will see that she is not the answer to our problems. I did wonder if the General had any plans on running, when he resigned. I need to know more about him.

  10. Greg L said on 28 Jun 2010 at 9:18 am:
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    Anyone characterizing Jim Hoeft as a “culprit” has no business being anywhere near politics. The guy is about as reliable a party-line warrior as it is possible to find, and the hours he consistently logs on behalf of Republicans are Herculean.

    If these folks are concerned about someone “live blogging” a political event — and you can see for yourself on Bearing Drift just how innocuous it was — here’s a useful suggestion for them that’s far more practical: They should give their speeches in a secure facility in front of a hand-picked crowd of people who have been subjected to rigorous security screenings. They can spread their message among the dozen or so people who would submit themselves to this and not consider the exercise utterly silly, and just see how effective it was.

    What a bunch of absolute retards running the Freedom Fest. I hope their hyper-paranoia is paying off well for them today as they suffer the impacts of a controversy they created and absolutely must have forseen.

  11. Anonymous said on 28 Jun 2010 at 9:46 am:
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    Hey kids. It could have been worse.

    Up in Toronto, the police decided to go after reporters covering the destructive antics of progressive fascists who were tearing the town apart.

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmE1MTRlY2ZjYzA0ZWEwNzNhNWNhMTliNDlmZmQwNDc=

    http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2010/06/things-you-dont.html

  12. MPResident said on 28 Jun 2010 at 10:48 am:
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    GregL, it doesn’t matter what you or I think of the rules, he knew the rules when he went in. Now, I must admit I am only going by the posts here, but it sounds to me he broke the rules. Now you of all people should respect the rules of the game.

  13. Greg L said on 28 Jun 2010 at 11:55 am:
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    I’ve never heard of anything as insane as kicking someone out because they quoted a speech on twitter. If these people want to hold rallies that are secure from twitter, they should have them in a faraday cage buried deep within a mountain and strip-search everyone attending on their way out.

    Breaking rules so utterly stupid is absolutely a patriotic duty. It’s a freakin twitter message, fer cryin out loud!

  14. MPResident said on 28 Jun 2010 at 12:36 pm:
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    Greg L, those were the rules. What part don’t you understand. If Mr. Hoeft didn’t like the rules he shouldn’t have went. But to just disregard the rules of someone elses event because you don’t like them is insane and I don’t see how it is anyone “Patriotic Duty” to break the rules of someone elses event. Your just plain wrong on this one Greg. We are a nation of rules and laws and without them all we have is anarchy. Not following rules is why our country is full of illegal immigrants now. You can’t have it both ways Greg.

  15. MPResident said on 28 Jun 2010 at 12:46 pm:
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    Excuse me “Illegal aliens”. Because that is what they are.

  16. Greg L said on 28 Jun 2010 at 2:31 pm:
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    When a political event starts screwing with freedom of the press — including the “citizen press” — I cry foul. Especially when it’s stupid stuff like this. Anytime politicians try to start controlling who can report on their public message citizens should rightly recognize that as a danger to our political system. Whether that’s Gerry Connolly excluding people from his invitation-only townhall meetings or a Republicans-only Tea Party facsimile, I feel obliged to call foul.

    Can they make a rule? Sure. Can they make a rule and extend it to utterly extreme limits like in this case? Yes, they can. Can I scream bloody murder that it was a dumb rule, stupidly enforced, and targeted at perhaps the greatest friend these folks could have ever hoped to have. You bet yer britches.

    Freedom Fest deserves condemnation for trying to protect the public from the messages of political figures and elected officials, right to the point of throwing people out for quoting speeches on twitter.

  17. MPResident said on 28 Jun 2010 at 2:45 pm:
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    Ok, Now I see, rules are for only when the suit your purpose. No one here knows what the purpose of the rule was. Do I think it was stupid, yes I do, but I am not going to go as far as you and make accusatory statements that you can’t back up. The rules were the rules Greg, you can keep on trying, but it doesn’t change the fact.

  18. Bob Bruhns said on 28 Jun 2010 at 3:53 pm:
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    It may not be afirst amendment issue - but why _not_ allow blogging from the event? Is the press required to be ‘approved’? Why would that be? Do the bigwigs want to control the reporting? Why would that be? Why muzzle this in the first place?

    Forbidding of texting reporting tells me that this was not a grass-roots event, but just another scripted, top-down, party-controlled controlled show. Such reporting in no way interfered with the proceedings, nor would it have been expected to do so. So why would the bigwigs block it? Answer: FOR CONTROL. They are not a grassroots group, they are a corporate entity. The real greass roots should look and take note.

  19. Anonymous said on 28 Jun 2010 at 3:55 pm:
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    While I agree with Greg’s view on freedom of the press, it seems like something called Freedom Fest is less “real” political event and more like entertainment or a sideshow. Certainly with Palin there… I think the Tea Party is rapidly becoming unrecognizable from the grassroots movement it began as, at least at the national level. There is too much money there. Any grassroots movement on the right or the left winds up being consumed by their respective machines. It’s inevitable.

  20. jon wong said on 28 Jun 2010 at 8:25 pm:
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    Hey MPResident…”Mr. H…shouldn’t have GONE….. ” Not “went”. You sound like illegal alien. Just cause Wong no write good…Wong no grammer. Wong want to have chai with Sara P. She look good. Make wong happy.

  21. MPResident said on 28 Jun 2010 at 9:09 pm:
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    Jon Wong, you really don’t want to get into a verbal battle with me because I will make you look and sound silly. If you don’t have anything of value to offer to the discussion maybe you should go play with the other children in the neighborhood. I am sure Greg L can fight his own battles.

  22. Get Bullwinkle! said on 28 Jun 2010 at 9:24 pm:
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    Ah, MPResident and Jon Wong get in great big pigfight. Much entertainment, like when Boris was young! We all get dirty, and pig has good time also. MPResident say he make John Wong look silly. Boris sit on sidelines with Natasha end enjoy so much great match between great fighters. Boris can sell tickets, no?

  23. Gnarly said on 29 Jun 2010 at 1:05 am:
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    The Tea Party WAS a movement. Now it’s a bunch of hucksters glomming onto the fervor and trying to make a buck. Anybody that says that they are an “official” Tea Party person or officer just doesn’t understand the movement.

    I’ve been in South Carolina for the GOP Primaries/Runoffs. We had no less than 5 candidates in a single GOP Congressional Primary (SC-1) claim to be the “Tea Party” endorsed candidate. The one thing they all had in common? They all gave an undisclosed amount of money to somebody claiming to be the “head” of the Tea Party in South Carolina.

    Beware of this crap folks.

  24. Anonymous said on 29 Jun 2010 at 5:01 am:
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    Freedom Fest is billed as entertainment with the focus of support for our troops. Go to AM630 for the details. I think the no recording rule was more for the musical performances, as with concerts.

  25. jon wong said on 29 Jun 2010 at 10:52 am:
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    Hey..Bullwink…you more funny. MPresident no no grammer and him no no he no no grammer.
    He make big threat to. Wong no kungfu. Wong no scare.

  26. MPResident said on 29 Jun 2010 at 11:56 am:
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    Greg, while I have not always agreed with you and other posts on your site, I have enjoyed the spirited discussions. However, idiots or idiot because I suspect they are the same person, like jon wong and get bullwinkle make a joke of your site. Why not go ahead and ban them now and get it over with. If they do not want to submit relevant information or comments it is a waste of time sorting through them.

  27. Rocky said on 29 Jun 2010 at 1:50 pm:
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    And all this time I thought Jon Wong WAS Greg.

  28. Anonymous said on 29 Jun 2010 at 2:15 pm:
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    Get Bullwinkle! said on 28 Jun 2010 at 9:24 pm: Flag comment

    Ah, MPResident and Jon Wong get in great big pigfight. Much entertainment, like when Boris was young! We all get dirty, and pig has good time also. MPResident say he make John Wong look silly. Boris sit on sidelines with Natasha end enjoy so much great match between great fighters. Boris can sell tickets, no?

    Ahhhhhh, Rocket J. Squirrel, where are you when we needed you? Boris and Natasha were picked up in the latest FBI raid so we won’t be hearing from them for a while. :)

  29. jon wong said on 29 Jun 2010 at 4:12 pm:
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    See…Wong no MPR don’t like freedom of press. He prove. he want to censor Wong. What other 1st amendment freedoms MPR want to take away?

  30. jon wong said on 29 Jun 2010 at 4:14 pm:
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    See…..shame on MPR.Try to sensor wong. Bullwink to smart.

  31. Get Bullwinkle! said on 29 Jun 2010 at 5:51 pm:
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    Boris liking this good fight with pig. Now MPresident go beg to referee to have jon wong disqualified! Ha! Just like Grandfather like to say, don’t try to fight with pig. You both get dirty, but pig likes being dirty. Now maybe MPResident understand now. Instead of making other guy look silly, he the one who is fool.

    There is always Russian saying of wisdom like this. Maybe they not teach children in America how be wise anymore. Grown ups act so much like children now. New “wisdom” gives opportunity now to die from new Government healthcare by new Obama Politburo. Maybe that save them from seeing effects of Great Leap Forward stimulus.

    Nothing ever new. Live in one Soviet Russia. Now live in what becoming the next one. Hope I get job with new American KGB. They live better life than those they hunt.

  32. Red, White and Blue said on 30 Jun 2010 at 1:28 pm:
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    McChrystal is not my choice for President. I’ve had enough of liberals. Look at (Gen) Wesley Clark. If McChrystal isn’t smart enough to stay out of that trap, he doesn’t impress me. We can blame Rolling Stone but the real blame is saying what you want in front of a liberal reporter and thinking it is OK. Rolling Stone wasn’t really on the map until they broke a story like this and it worked.

    If Hoeft knew the rules then he should have gotten permission; kicked out is pretty serious. I don’t see his two cents here. Like McChrystal, apparently he felt fine in similiar-type company and maybe took advantage of that fact and when it backfired the bellyaching began.

    As for Sarah, well, she literally saved McCain from getting his arse handed to him with less than 40% of the vote. He was NObama lite and nothing else (until he came up for re-election). Now he “re-invents” himself for a few months and then same old, same old I’m sure.

    The Tea Party is not being taken over by the republicans, in my opinion. The proof, so far, is that in several states, the local republican favorite has been beaten by little known or unknown folks, to the dismay of the party. The republicans are just as scared of the tea party folks as the democrats, at least right now. Someone has to have some backbone or we are sunk. Right now it’s the tea party - not the republicans or democrats.

    Wong and Bull, love the rhetoric. MP Res, I like your blogs but don’t get too hung up in Wong or Bull. They are just adding spice and it isn’t that bad - kinda funny at times. We need to laugh more.
    Me like wong, he be right though he be wong.

  33. Wolverine said on 30 Jun 2010 at 4:00 pm:
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    Am I now expected to change my entire political outlook based on the life and times and personal sensitivities of somebody named J. R. Hoeft?

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