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Open Thread

By Greg L | 11 August 2010 | Uncategorized | 48 Comments

Buried with some pretty exciting work projects, so in the meantime you can enjoy this video from the Manassas Train Festival and consider this an Open Thread…

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  1. Jaspar said on 11 Aug 2010 at 3:18 pm:
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    MS-13 Gang Graffiti In Pentagon City


    August 11, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    and for the record – simply deporting suspected gang members is one of the main reasons MS-13 was able to spread and cement their presence.


  2. Cynic said on 11 Aug 2010 at 3:43 pm:
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    So, what is the penalty for returning after being deported?

  3. HerndonResident said on 11 Aug 2010 at 5:52 pm:
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    Here’s the latest item of interest in Herndon
    Another organization looking to save the world, admittedly unwanted. These people need to go back to where they cam from.
    If you are looking for a problem to solve, look in your own back yard first. Stay away from towns that don’t need or want your “help”

  4. Cynic said on 11 Aug 2010 at 8:37 pm:
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    Wow, you must put this scum in its place. No way you can give in to this illegal scum.

    Wonder why they have selected Herndon? Do you think it is because it is a small town and they perceive that it will be easy to implement their communist agenda? Or have some local traitors invited them just to create problems?

  5. DownWithBRCitizenship said on 11 Aug 2010 at 11:15 pm:
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    Lovely: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/08/11/illegal-immigrants-bear-8-children-born-us

  6. local gop said on 12 Aug 2010 at 4:58 am:
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    Pew Research reported that in 2009, 1 in 12 birth in the United States were children of illegal immigrants.

  7. mpcinsider said on 12 Aug 2010 at 5:54 am:
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    I wonder if any money for the bill that the president signed will trickle down to MP schools. I hope so, but I don’t think so. The rec center is still bleeding money. Letting kids in camp on tax payer’s bill. I wonder how much money was lost throughout the summer at the rec center.

    I see the strip mall close to the MP police station is doing very nicely. More stores opening up a good sign, but to bad for the city center that is sitting all but empty. Time to kick the bums off the MP city council and vote in new ones.

  8. Freedom said on 12 Aug 2010 at 8:01 am:
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    Herndon Resident,

    I hope your town council feels the same as you do and resolutely resists the pressure — we can not let our guard down, none of us!!

  9. Big Dog said on 12 Aug 2010 at 8:18 am:
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    A recent COG study of population trends notes between 2005-2009:
    PWC - up 10.5%
    Manassas Park - up 5.5%
    Manassas - down 3%

    - PWC will continue to grow for years due to open land while the
    cities are confined in much smaller and already developed areas.

    - The report didn’t mention it, but I wonder what impact the
    actions of local governments to combat criminal illegals had
    on these numbers.

  10. Herndon Bob said on 12 Aug 2010 at 10:05 am:
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    We lost a number of seats in last Mays election. We have the Mayor and two councilmen on our side and four new pro illegal councilmen (and women). We are now venerable to have 4 years of action against illegal immigration reversed. They have already failed to appoint a member of the council to serve on what was originally the Culpeper immigration commission which our Mayor chaired. Hopefully we can motivate enough support to stop these folks.

  11. Cynic said on 12 Aug 2010 at 12:18 pm:
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    - eight percent of the children from the over breeding illegals.

    Just think, what that means for the future! They will become doctors, engineers, theoretical physicists and maybe a few of them will really hit the big time by becoming members and leaders in MS-13!

  12. Freedom said on 12 Aug 2010 at 12:29 pm:
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    You must/we must resist!! With the players involved, this issue has blown well beyond that of illegal immigration; it has become their objective to begin with a small and vulnerable town, using illegal aliens as the opening bid, and then, with foot in door and political power, spread their socialistic agenda to other communities. It’s like a fungus…it must be stopped.

  13. Anonymous said on 12 Aug 2010 at 12:39 pm:
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    Multiple reports of a “white male” serial killer - who had been stabbing victims from Michigan, Ohio and Virginia - have been all over the radio, TV and internet news lately:


    They catch the guy, Abed al-Azzam, trying to depart the country with an expired Israeli passport.


    “He was a dark Middle Eastern guy and the description was of a White guy,” said Carrie Strang, who woke up this morning to find police cars and news vans outside.


  14. Jaspar said on 12 Aug 2010 at 1:47 pm:
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    Serial Stabbing Suspect Was Arrested, Released in Arlington
    August 12th, 2010 @ 1:39 PM | Author: ARLnow.com

    The man suspected in the stabbing deaths of at five people was arrested and later released in Arlington last week, the Arlington County Police Department has confirmed.

    Elias Abuelazam, 33, was pulled over for a traffic violation on the 1100 block of South Walter Reed Drive early Thursday morning, according to police spokesperson Crystal Nosal. After Abuelazam’s information was run through a computer database, he was arrested on an outstanding warrant for simple assault in Leesburg.

    He was booked and a mug shot was taken. A magistrate then released him on his own personal recognisance, police said.

    The Washington Post reports that Abuelazam is suspected in a stabbing that occurred in Leesburg later that morning.

    Abuelazam was arrested at Atlanta’s Hartsfield Airport last night while reportedly trying to flee to Israel. He is suspected in at least 20 stabbings in Michigan, Ohio and Northern Virginia. Five of those attacks were fatal.

    Abuelazam lived in Arlington as recently as one year ago, according to ABC 7.


  15. Jack said on 12 Aug 2010 at 2:51 pm:
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    In a bizarre twist of reality (which is standard for the government), Semites, who are NOT caucasian, are classified as “White,” but Indians, who are caucasion but can be very dark-skinned, are NOT “White.”

  16. ArmyVeteran said on 12 Aug 2010 at 2:51 pm:
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    As the facts come out, it becomes more evident that the US Government has failed to protect our citizens from open border invasion to interior domestic assault be foreigners. Only political candidates who swear to secure our borders and deport ALL illegal aliens should tolerated. It all gets back to enforcing the US Constitution. There is no need for 287(g) or other artificial inventions from a liberal Federal Government.

    (CNSNews.com) - In the three fiscal years from 2007-2009, the Homeland Security Department caught and released 481 illegal aliens who came from nations designated as state sponsors of terrorism and “countries of interest,” and those 481 illegal aliens are now fugitives, according to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement database obtained by CNSNews.com as the result of a Freedom of Information Act request.

  17. Jack said on 12 Aug 2010 at 2:55 pm:
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    An expired passport, huh? I wonder if he is here legally. Did the Arlington police check that?

  18. Anonymous said on 12 Aug 2010 at 4:19 pm:
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    Current reorts state he was here legally - had a green card. What a relief to know this Arab POS who ran about slicing people up was made legal by our State Department.

    Israeli citizen Serial Killer Suspect an Arab from Ramle. American media are reporting that the Israeli citizen who was arrested Thursday for 20 stabbings, including five fatal ones, is 33-year-old Elias Abu-El Azam of Ramle, southeast of Tel Aviv.

    Flint — The 33-year-old man who police believe is the serial stabber has strong ties to both Flint and Leesburg, VA., where 19 of the 20 attacks took place, and recently showed off scars on his hands that he said were caused when “he had to do something to somebody.”

    Elias Abu Elazam was arrested while waiting to board a Delta flight bound for Tel Aviv, Israel, on Wednesday night in Atlanta. A warrant charging him with assault with intent to commit murder was issued today in Flint.

    Abu Elazam, who spoke a Palestinian dialect, was waiting to board a plane for Israel at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport when he was arrested. Michigan authorities had contacted Atlanta-based officials about 9:30 and U.S. Customs Border Protection officers arrested the suspect there about 10 p.m. Wednesday.

    Elias Abu Elazam. on Facebook


  19. Dave in PWC said on 12 Aug 2010 at 5:15 pm:
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    The POS illegal who killed the Nun was being helped by Catholic Charities with his legal defense against deportation. How ironic is that?

  20. DownWithBRCitizenship said on 12 Aug 2010 at 6:32 pm:
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    …being helped by Catholic Charities…
    You’ve got to be kidding. Do you have any contact info about that charity? We should put the pressure on them to STOP supporting him.

  21. Dave in PWC said on 12 Aug 2010 at 7:14 pm:
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    Here is the link to the story:


    Here is the closest I could find on Catholic Charities in Manassas:


    I’m calling the Manassas and the Immigration office listed tomorrow morning.

  22. Anonymous said on 12 Aug 2010 at 7:33 pm:
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    Montan is being defended by a group affiliated with Catholic Charities - Hogar Hispano, “Hispanic Home”.


    Find out who the supervisor of legal services is at Hogar Hispano. Of course, more than likely, nobody will give more than a “no comment” comment on the case and/or claim lawyer/client privilege to privacy blah, blah….

    Fact is, groups like Catholic Charities and Hogar Hispano aid and abet illegal aliens all the time, so this business of stepping in to defend a criminal alien is just good PR for them.

    Had someone from my white bread family killed a Catholic nun, nobody from Hogar Hipano would have rushed in to offer them free legal council.

  23. Anonymous said on 13 Aug 2010 at 5:24 am:
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    Good point, so when are we going to start establishing White centric organizations to help Whites in need to the exclusion of others as do all the present minority centric organizations? Come to think of it the only group not a minority is Whites.

  24. Brown Native American said on 13 Aug 2010 at 7:24 am:
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    This is a good idea. You are after all the minority in America and the minority in the world and your hearts are filled with fear. But I think you already have started these:

    Tea Party
    Black Velvet Bruce li
    Fox News
    US Congress
    US Senate
    The VA General assembly
    GM, IBM, Ford, GE, ABC,
    All county governments

    You people are too ignorant and fearful to know that this entire apartheid country and the vast majority of its businesses, towns, counties are white centric organizations. What a bunch of weak, fearful fools.

  25. Anonymous said on 13 Aug 2010 at 8:46 am:
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    The brown native sure cries a lot.

  26. Citizen12 said on 13 Aug 2010 at 9:25 am:
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    The fastest way to double your illegal alien population? Provide the hope for a pathway to citizenship.

    The fastest way to eliminate the illegal alien population? Round them up, send them home and provide cruel and unusual punishment at the point of illegal entry for all those caught attempting to enter.

    The probability that this argument will be continued indefinitely while our borders continue to be violated and the illegal invasion continues is a sure bet unless the issue is raised to the next level.

    It is unfortunate but it would appear that the continued murder, rape and robbery of American citizens will not be the catalyst to move our corrupt elected representatives to action under their tyrannical rule.

    Tyrant - 1 a: an absolute ruler unrestrained by law or constitution b: a usurper of sovereignty

    Sic Semper Tyrannis: Translation: Thus Always to Tyrants - Virginia State Motto

  27. Jack said on 13 Aug 2010 at 10:53 am:
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    If we are so weak, why do you claim that the WHITE minority is ruling EVERY country in Latin America? How can such weaklings DO that?

  28. BattleCat said on 13 Aug 2010 at 11:07 am:
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    You see much that is unseen, Brown Native American. My people call it schizophrenia.

  29. Cherokee said on 13 Aug 2010 at 12:27 pm:
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    Brown Native American only speaks for himself.

  30. Jack said on 13 Aug 2010 at 2:10 pm:
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    He also speaks for the voices in his head that only he can hear.

  31. Howard the Duck said on 13 Aug 2010 at 3:22 pm:
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    Hmmm, if he is a Brown Native American that must mean he acknowledges there are White Native Americans. :)

  32. Advocator said on 13 Aug 2010 at 3:57 pm:
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    @ Citizen 12:

    Wasn’t the motto, “sic semper tyrannis” supposed to have been spoken by Brutus as he stabbed Julius Caesar?

  33. Citizen12 said on 13 Aug 2010 at 6:45 pm:
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    Advocator said on 13 Aug 2010 at 3:57 pm

    From what I can find it was probably Shakespeare who gave those words to Marcus Junius Brutus but attributed to him none the less.

    The state seal and motto was voted on and approved by the Virginia government in July 1776, just two months after declaring their independence from Great Britain.

    The Virginia State flag was adopted April 30 1861, shortly after repealing its 1788 ratification of the Constitution at the Secession Convention on April 17 1861.

    It is said John Wilkes Booth shouted it after assonating President Lincoln.

  34. Brown Native American said on 13 Aug 2010 at 8:19 pm:
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    “Hmmm, if he is a Brown Native American that must mean he acknowledges there are White Native Americans. :)”

    BNA said: Actually there is no such thing as a Native American. The name America comes from some European Italian guy. But in order to communicate with insane people one must speak their insane language and think their insane thoughts And dude you’re not white, you’re pink.

    But none of this matters. Mother Earth will not continue to put up with your savage and destruction behavior against the natural world, incluidng brown indigenous people world wide. So keep on going with your alien arrogance and you will soon be gone (of your own doing). See for yourself:


    “When you hear a white person say illegal immigrant what they are really saying is Nigger.”

  35. Dittyman8 said on 14 Aug 2010 at 5:37 am:
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    Hey BNA, when I say “illegal alien or immigrant” I’m really saying a foreign national (regardless or color, even white) who is present in the terrority of the United States of America illegally. What I mean illegally is that they are being in the Unites States of America in a manner that violates the laws passed by the US Congress and signed by the President of the United States under the guidelines set by the US Consititution. That’s it, no double meanings or anything else implied. Do not presume to speak for me.

  36. Cherokee said on 14 Aug 2010 at 11:13 am:
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    BNA, you need to get off the reservation and get some R&R.
    If you’re headed to North Carolina, please stop in and say
    hello to my relatives and remember to bring plenty of money.


  37. Anonymous said on 14 Aug 2010 at 1:27 pm:
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    Cynic said on 12 Aug 2010 at 12:18 pm: Flag comment

    - eight percent of the children from the over breeding illegals.

    Just think, what that means for the future! They will become doctors, engineers, theoretical physicists and maybe a few of them will really hit the big time by becoming members and leaders in MS-13!

    The part about doctors, engineers, theoretical physicists is extremely doubtful due the 70% school dropout rate among Latinos. The part about MS-13 leaders is quite reachable.

  38. Greg L said on 14 Aug 2010 at 2:01 pm:
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    One phrase I hope to never hear again: “over breeding illegals”. Seriously, there’s enough policy discussion on this topic to last a lifetime without plumbing to such depths.

    The issue is illegal aliens depending on taxpayers to support their lifestyle in America. If the demographic data was different here, it wouldn’t change this discussion one bit other than the discussion of the enormous costs involved. If illegal aliens had children at the same rate as citizens, would their unlawful behavior somehow be more acceptable.

    Stick to the important discussions.

  39. Cynic said on 14 Aug 2010 at 4:50 pm:
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    Greg, did not know you dislike the phrase “over breeding illegals”. Had I known, would not have used it as it is your Blog and you make the rules which I always try to follow/obey.

    I assume that the restriction of “hope to never hear again” refers only to your Blog. In a non Blog setting, I would say what I want to say as I am always prepared to take the hits.

    Heck, I didn’t even use curse words.

  40. Greg L said on 14 Aug 2010 at 4:54 pm:
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    No, it’s not a warning that you’re destined for moderation, just an observation that I really don’t care for talking about folks like that. It lacks class, and it certainly gets the attention of the wingnuts that use such comments to start shouting how I’m supposedly a racist.

    When you stick to policy, I don’t tend to get so many rocks thrown at me.

  41. Cynic said on 14 Aug 2010 at 6:28 pm:
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    FYI - Article related to policy and the impacts of the policy on various subgroups of our people.


  42. Dittyman8 said on 14 Aug 2010 at 6:49 pm:
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    Very well done!

  43. Anonymous said on 14 Aug 2010 at 7:07 pm:
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    14th Amendment was never intended for this

    “The original intent of the 14th Amendment was never to grant “anchor baby” or “birthright” status to illegal aliens bent on gaming the system here in America. Unfortunately, that’s how the liberals have interpreted it and thus allowed the system to be misused.

    Don’t believe me? Read this from http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html:

    In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14thAmendment by stating:

    “Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”

    This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

    “[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word…”

    It’s disgusting to watch the continued and willful perversion of the Constitution and other founding documents by Liberals at all levels of government. Our republic cannot continue to stand under this oppression.”


    Why the 14th Amendment does not confer citizenship on the children of illegal aliens:

    Testimony of Edward J. Erler

    Professor of Political Science, California State University, San Bernardino
    Senior Fellow, The Claremont Institute for the Study of Statesmanship
    and Political Philosophy

    Before the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims

    June 25, 1997

    “It does not require a constitutional amendment to withhold citizenship from children born in the United States of illegal alien parents. Their parents are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States and they seek citizenship for their children without the consent of the nation. It defies logic to insist that an illegal act on the part of parents can confer the boon of citizenship upon their children. The nation has specified the terms of its consent in the uniform rules for naturalization and laws governing immigration.”


  44. Anonymous said on 15 Aug 2010 at 7:45 pm:
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    What is wrong with our local newspaper? The News & Messenger makes a big deal out of Chairman Corey Stewart going $7,500 over budget one year but doesn’t say a word about the county sheriff increasing his budget by 50% or $2.6 million in 5 years.

  45. Cynic said on 15 Aug 2010 at 8:21 pm:
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    Interesting website: http://www.frostywooldridge.com/

  46. Grayson said on 16 Aug 2010 at 12:21 am:
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    “Anonymous said on 15 Aug 2010 at 7:45 pm: Flag comment
    What is wrong with our local newspaper?”

    Liberal progressives protect each other no matter what political party they are in.

  47. FED UP said on 16 Aug 2010 at 9:17 am:
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    wow - looks like anti-bvbl has finally died! it’s about time!
    they haven’t posted a new thread since February!!!
    ding dong, the witch(es) are dead!!!!!

  48. Anonymous said on 18 Aug 2010 at 10:42 am:
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    White supremancy Rules

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