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Comment Number 100,000

By Greg L | 13 January 2011 | Blogs, Prince William County | 36 Comments

And true to form, it’s something guaranteed to turn a lot of heads as Mike Albertness tells us that Chief Deane has secretly shut down the police department’s Criminal Alien Unit, something he was directed to establish by the Board of County Supervisors in 2006.  Details are below the fold…

I just learned the Prince William County Police Department Criminal Alien Unit is no longer. After speaking to several Police Officer/Detectives, the unit was broken down. Supervisor Richard Cundiff and Michael Crosbie who are in charge of such unit placed the certified ICE officer into different assignments but yet making them keep their certification to deceive the public that the unit still exists. Although the department does have certified ICE officer within the department, the Criminal Alien Unit is no longer. After reviewing arrests numbers it is apparent of the credibility of such information as immigration arrest has significantly gone down.

The Police Department has been targeting cases that will catch media attention. When a significant case rises, the supervisor pulls out the certified ICE officer from his current assignment to make an immigration arrest. They make it appear as if they have been proactive with immigration arrests and issues. One of their current high profiled arrests was the nun killed by a drunken illegal immigrant. Such arrest made the public think that the Criminal Alien Unit reacted but in this case it was the ICE certified jail officers because the police department immigration unit is gone. One reason heard of such movement was, they were placed in different area of the department to increase immigration arrests within the department. However, if you look at each ICE certified officer arrest record the number speaks for its self; they have a max of one arrest a month if that. In many occasion there has been many months in which the officers has zero immigration arrests.

Further information obtained indicates the police department has been making these changes to include the breakage of the Criminal Alien Unit without letting the board of supervisor know. They have used deception to make them think the unit exists and are remain proactive by making immigration arrests. They have not told them of the unit breakage and where they have place the ICE certified officers. If the board of supervisor is allowing the police department to do this, what else are they keeping away from the public? What other deceptions is the Police Department responsible for?

I am looking for more sources to contribute to this news. If you have further information please post it with some sort of contact method so I contact you privately and create a future headline on the newspaper. Headlines will read sort of “Prince William Police Deceives It’s Citizen.”

I can’t think of a more worthy comment to push us over the five figure mark.  A citizen, doing citizen reporting, for other citizens.  That’s what we’re all about.

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  1. Isophorone said on 13 Jan 2011 at 7:35 pm:
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    So what’s the penalty to Chief Deane for not doing what the Board of Supervisors directed him to do?

    And do I win a prize?

  2. Cynic said on 13 Jan 2011 at 8:08 pm:
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    No penalty. Since there are no criminal aliens in PW or any geographical area in the US, Criminal Alien Units are redundant.

    Bet the Chief gets a big bonus for cost cutting. After all, he is saving the taxpayers millions!

  3. Anonymous said on 13 Jan 2011 at 8:38 pm:
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    Greg, I thought I saw a post where you named the person who had threatened your kids and reported them to the police. I can’t find it though. Am I mixing that up with something else?

  4. Anonymous said on 13 Jan 2011 at 8:42 pm:
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    Deane should be fired. Will our County Supervisors have the guts to do so, or are the part of the game?

  5. Anonymous said on 13 Jan 2011 at 8:50 pm:
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    Sorry, I am kind of new here, but who is Mike Albertness and is he reliable? His post is written like a juvenile and sounds kind of phony, like maybe somebody trying to bait us into some sort of trap. Maybe I’m wrong, so somebody with more experience here please fill me in.

  6. Greg L said on 13 Jan 2011 at 9:16 pm:
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    This confirms information I’ve heard from two other sources, one of whom is a police officer in the PWCPD. I believe this is entirely accurate.

    What I think happened is that the Criminal Alien Unit was re-tasked to general investigation duty a month or two after being formed, and then disbanded sometime this past summer. I haven’t had time to follow up on it, and Mike managed to step in and do it for me.

  7. Maureen said on 13 Jan 2011 at 9:48 pm:
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    Call your supervisor and demand they find out what is going on

  8. Maureen said on 13 Jan 2011 at 9:58 pm:
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    This really doesn’t surprise me much.

  9. I want my county safe again said on 14 Jan 2011 at 6:27 am:
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    Great article. Let’s keep it front and center. Often times when impotant things like this start on the blog, the comments get side tracked. We NEED to hold the Chief accountable for a change. He has done what he wants instead of what he is tasked to do. I am sure there are many more issues that need to be brought to light. Deane has been around a very very long time. Times have changed and so should the leadership in the Dept.

  10. Tyler Durden said on 14 Jan 2011 at 9:56 am:
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    There should be a cash prize, to be paid in “Marshalls,” for the 200,000th commenter.

  11. madmom said on 14 Jan 2011 at 10:22 am:
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    Well jeez, here I was thinking I was all safe from these criminals and when they were caught, they got the boot. How stupid of me to trust my police chief to do what he is told. Now I’m really pissed.

  12. benton said on 14 Jan 2011 at 10:39 am:
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    Well, which is it? They left and we have huge local tax dollar savings $140M so I’ve been told here and they left and the market is up so I’ve been told here OR they haven’t left. If they haven’t left then the savings and values were not related to illegals. If they left then why is the unit necessary? Which is it?

  13. benton said on 14 Jan 2011 at 10:50 am:
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    Remember, the BOS continues to cut - there is no room for prevention anymore just reaction. I’m told that’s efficient government. It’s working for mental health isn’t it? Now we can pay lower taxes since we need fewer cops.

  14. Carlos Montana said on 14 Jan 2011 at 10:52 am:
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    benton said on 14 Jan 2011 at 10:39 am:
    “Well, which is it?”

    No se.

  15. Hopalong Rodriguez said on 14 Jan 2011 at 11:21 am:
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    Un tigre de papel!

  16. benton said on 14 Jan 2011 at 11:24 am:
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    unable to withstand wind, water and fire…….

  17. Good Time Charlie said on 14 Jan 2011 at 7:44 pm:
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    Another example of Charlie Deane answering to nobody, and policing through headlines. Folks, if you think this guy really cares about your personal safety, then you’re foolish enough to have this power hungry old man as your Chief-of-Poice.

  18. Former Officer said on 14 Jan 2011 at 8:30 pm:
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    Call your board member and have them raise taxes. Then direct these new collected taxes go to the police department. Then maybe Chief Deane can keep this unit and even allow it to grow. Cuts have been made across the department and the Board of Supervisors know this. You should really print the entire story but that would be asking too much now wouldn’t it?

  19. Anonymous said on 14 Jan 2011 at 10:45 pm:
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    Former Officer is correct. This situation is not unusual at all, and is the way public safety departments have to deal with things all the time. When resources are cut, as they have been here, you look at the amount of activity in which a unit is engaged and if there is sufficient down time, reallocate it to other operations. That’s what is going on here. There is no free lunch. There has been a drop in illegal alien activity and money is tight.

    I would also suggest not going after Chief Deane on this unless there is real evidence of malfeasance. We lost a lot of support when we went after him last time. To be honest, Greg, I think you let the more rabid posters on here, who were safe behind a computer screen, goad you into making inappropriate accusations regarding the Chief, while Corey Stewart, feeling invincible, did the same. It was a bad mistake, and if you go down that road again, I can assure you that Corey will not follow you this time. He is looking for higher office and will not risk taking on law enforcement. Given his ambitions, he will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat if it suits his purposes.

  20. Greg L said on 14 Jan 2011 at 11:05 pm:
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    One of the great opportunities of a blog is for rumors to get investigated, and I think this one is going to get run down from the discussions I understand are happening. We’re going to find out what’s going on here, and whatever the truth is, it’s going to come out.

    In my view, once we get a handle on the results of the CAU — how many prosecutions they’ve helped make happen through their investigations, and within the special area of responsibility they are supposed to be focused on — we’ll have a good picture of what’s happening here. They’ve been in existence since early 2007 to be charitable. They must have actual accomplishments by now. If not, it lends credibility to these charges.

    Or perhaps they don’t because there aren’t enough crimes happening to warrant their special focus. I tend to think that’s unlikely, given that we’ve seen some disturbing cases of document mills and mortgage fraud reported. To the layman, there was a bunch of fraud happening during the real estate boom and a lot of immigrants were victims. We should be seeing some results if the CAU is on top of things.

    One thing I do know. If no one ever questions whether the PWCPD and the CAU are doing a good job, we’re likely to get subpar performance. We need to know what our taxpayer dollars are getting for us, and this is one way of ensuring some degree of accountability.

    There will be more to come on this.

  21. BristowBristling said on 15 Jan 2011 at 7:27 am:
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    Former Officer and Anonymous you both have valid points about the budget and need to readjust monies according to need. Having said that, we should recognize there are many line items still being funded which could be reduced before scattering programs taxpayers / BOCS feel are worthwhile. For instance, the Horse Team. Although a part-time team, those members are taken away from their primary jobs to ride horses for show. Equipment, time, additional help from others to handle primary workload and so forth still costs money. Has that been cut and gone away?

  22. BristowBristling said on 15 Jan 2011 at 7:30 am:
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    What about all the money being poured into interpreters and pamphlets written in foreign languages? Have those been cut or defunded? So many examples of areas untouched. The answer is not always going to be to raise my taxes.

  23. Former Officer said on 15 Jan 2011 at 7:38 am:
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    I was being somewhat flippant when I made the comment about raising taxes. No matter what Chief Deane had some decisions to make regarding what to and what not to cut. I wasn’t privy to any of the decision making but I know this unit (CAU) was an easy decision all things considered. As far as the mounted unit goes. It wouldn’t bother me one but to see it disappear.

  24. Good Time Charlie said on 15 Jan 2011 at 11:25 am:
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    The mounted unit. Why hasn’t it been cut? It’s simple. What Kim wants, Kim gets.

  25. Anonymous said on 15 Jan 2011 at 11:47 am:
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    I agree with Good Time Charlie. Charlie Deane does what he wants and doesn’t seem to answer to anyone. He tells the BOCS and the people what he is and isn’t going to do.

  26. Benton said on 15 Jan 2011 at 2:56 pm:
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    There was a FOIA years ago on the Mounted Unit. The horses are loaned and the costs covered from donations and I think it costs under $4/5k a year. How many times is this going to be tossed around. This is just disgruntled people moaning.

    Again, either the illegals left as has been stated over and over again with proof of cost savings and improved market values or they didn’t. It’s been said here they left. So why does the illegal unit need to continue??!!

    Taxes - you get what you pay for. And Stewart prefers reactive government over proactive or preventative government. School officers were elminiated with 100% BOS support, Crime Preventor Officers were elminiated with 100%BOS support. Both prevent crimes. Ask him. Actually ask all of them. They didn’t break a sweat.

  27. BristowBristling said on 15 Jan 2011 at 5:18 pm:
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    Benton, In regard to the Mounted Unit, the Police Department budget covers the uniforming and salaries/benefits of those members on the team. Although part-time, the functions and training for the team take place on duty. Also, not covered by donation, is the primary job coverage tasked to other department members when the “Mounted Unit” is in training or conducting team affairs. I am not a “disgruntled “moaner, merely comparing services that are being cut to those that are not. It is my belief that removing criminal illegal aliens from our neighborhoods is worth more than seeing Mounted Officers at events.

  28. BristowBristling said on 15 Jan 2011 at 6:22 pm:
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    I also have never seen it said or documented that all the illegal aliens have left. Perhaps there has been a reduction in the number who now reside here.. but gone..
    there is no information anywhere I can find that supports that statement. In fact,
    by merely readin the local papers it appears as if there are still crimes being committed by those who are here illegally.

  29. BristowBristling said on 15 Jan 2011 at 6:26 pm:
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    Sorry about the formatting above. Having keyboard problems tonight.

  30. Benton said on 15 Jan 2011 at 6:28 pm:
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    Let’s keep the mounted unit until after the 50K or more expected for the 150th Civil War celebration. Then take another look at it.

    The purpose of the Mounted Unit as I understand it is to be proactive, promote community relations and access to remote areas for search and rescue. We certainly don’t believe in a need for those thinges here in PWC anymore. We only want to pay for reaction. And if someone is lost, why should police look for them? Wait til there’s a body. That’s their new mission per the BOS.

    I may end up agreeing with you. PWC is certainly de-volving into the type of community where a Mounted Unit, community policing or outreach is neither needed nor appreciated. Best left to those types of communities where proactive policing and other similar levels of service are expected.

  31. Benton said on 15 Jan 2011 at 6:36 pm:
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    From - WHEN WILL THEY LEARN 12/20/10

    What a nice surprise to have Tucker Carlson appear on The Grandy Group this morning during my drive in to work giving kudos to Prince William County. Tucker is one of the few who have noticed the connection between discouraging the presence of illegal aliens and reduced municipal costs, something particularly helpful during difficult economic […]

    Every area of PWC has made reductions and, as of today, the county has cut more than $140 million from the cost of government, and is employing the lowest number of full-time government workers in the D.C. region. Indeed, residents of the county pay tax bills nearly 30% lower than in neighboring counties. The business community has responded, PWC is now the number one job growth county in Virginia and the D.C. region and number two in terms of job growth on the East Coast.

    Yeah, that’s some economic disaster folks. Lower taxes, less spending, more job growth, less crime and a dramatically better quality of life. The next time liberals give us a prediction of what the impacts of a policy would be, it would be statistically more valid to expect the exact opposite rather than believe anything they’re saying. With a track record like they’ve managed to record, you wish they were sitting opposite you at a poker table with all of George Soros’ money.

  32. Anonymous said on 16 Jan 2011 at 7:49 am:
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    THe mounted police are used for remote search and rescue. REALLY? Give me one instance where you have heard/seen/know that they aided in a search and rescue. PLEASE. Give me a break. FORMER OFFICER: if Deane has so many hard decisions to make about the budget, why is he so willing to give two of his positions to the Sheriff’s office so he doesn’t have to perform the work within his depart.? He’s a joke people. The Dept. has become a Dictatorship. He is still there well beyond his retirement.

  33. Anonymous said on 16 Jan 2011 at 10:05 am:
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    The mounted unit is there because Deane likes it. One penny spent on it is one penny too much. Search and Rescue…LOL!

  34. BristowBristling said on 16 Jan 2011 at 10:52 am:
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    I merely began my response by using the Mounted Unit as an example on spending cuts but it seems to have taken on its on life. So, I’m going to take a moment to comment on it from my perspective.

    Here is the descriptive link to the PD’s website on the Mounted Patrol:


    1. “Seizure funds taken from the assets of drug dealers enabled the Mounted Unit to purchase equipment including uniforms, horse blankets, and a horse trailer.”

    These were not “donated” funds. They were seizure funds that could have been diverted elsewhere for higher priority needs and purchases.

    2. “The unit is used on an occasional basis for initiatives including crime prevention, directed patrol, public relations, ceremonies, and search and rescue missions. Members also patrol major shopping centers, commuter parking lots, events at live entertainment venues, the County Fair and various local parades.”

    Crime Prevention ??? Not sure what crime they are preventing.
    Directed Patrol ??? Maybe riding around shopping centers and parking lots during the holiday season when the weather is not inclement.
    Public Relations ???? Live Entertainment, the Fair, and Parades ??? Is this a wise expenditure in personnel, time, and backfilling primary jobs in these fiscally hard times?

  35. BristowBristling said on 16 Jan 2011 at 11:06 am:
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    Search and Rescue Missions ???

    Here is how a Search and Rescue mission works on the PD:
    a. Call come in.
    b. Patrol responds and determines legitimacy of the call.
    c. Legitimate call: Patrol coordinates with C.I.D. for resources.

    Now the sequence of events:
    a. Patrol begins ground search.
    b. Search and Rescue called out to begin extended ground search.
    c. Fairfax County and/or VA State Police help with air support.
    d. Canine Units and/or Search and Rescue and/or Cadaver Dogs called out.
    e. Detectives are investigating leads.
    f. More help needed? Academy recruits brought in to help.
    g. PIO should be giving info to the media.

    Plus, dependent upon the scope of the incident there may be a call to VA for some of their resources.

    Where is the Mounted Unit in these scenarios? They should be doing the job of the PIO, Academy supervision, Operations coordination and assistance, etc. I have never seen them take a pro-active part in a Search and Rescue mission of any substance.

  36. Good Time Charlie said on 19 Jan 2011 at 12:11 am:
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    Does anyone really think a Criminal Alien Unit under the supervision of Charlie Deane was e a unit designed to be proactive? This Chief-of-Police has made it very clear he wanted no part of law enforcement involving immigration. So is anyone shocked the production of this unit since its formation has been less than expected? There was a reason Cundiff and Crosbie were selected to supervise this unit. My guess is it wasn’t to enforce the law by initiating contact with illegal aliens involved in crime. It’s easy to slash a unit from a department when its production is nearly nonexistent. My observation is it has been the plan from the start.

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