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Where The Illegal Aliens Are In PWC

By Greg L | 26 February 2011 | Illegal Aliens, Prince William County | 35 Comments

With precinct-level census figure now available, there’s some fascinating data available about population and voter registration rates in Prince William County.  This quick-and-dirty way to spot outliers where the most illegal aliens unlawfully resident in the county isn’t by itself the perfect means of pinpointing spots where additional law enforcement and zoning attention would help, but with a little insight as to why variances might exist it’s a pretty good way to spot trouble spots, or at least to confirm them.

First, let’s look at the big outliers in the data set, and it’s pretty apparent those don’t have much to do with illegal immigration at all.  On the low end we have the Quantico precinct that has only 29% of the population of the nearly six thousand residents registered to vote.  If the name isn’t a dead giveaway here, the large population of transient military personnel who are registered to vote elsewhere in this precinct should be obvious.  On the positive side, the Bull Run precinct on the other side of the county has a whopping 95% of their 3,500 residents registered to vote.  Since the precinct is almost entirely comprised of the Heritage Hunt, there aren’t children to speak of, and not too many illegal aliens buy their way into upscale gated retirement communities.

Setting these outliers aside, the remainder of the precincts with low voter registration percentages match up pretty closely with the map of locations where illegal aliens have been arrested.  The county average is 56%, which makes the following rather suspect:

Precinct District Population Registered Rate
WESTGATE Gainesville 7,308 2,595 35.5%
LYNN Woodbridge 6,630 2,485 37.5%
LIBRARY Woodbridge 8,073 3,269 40.5%
SUDLEY NORTH Gainesville 6,096 2,536 41.6%
FREEDOM Neabsco 4,335 1,804 41.6%
POTOMAC VIEW Woodbridge 4,314 1,801 41.8%
KILBY Woodbridge 4,682 2,016 43.1%
ELLIS Brentsville 3,279 1,423 43.4%
MULLEN Gainesville 8,173 3,630 44.4%
SINCLAIR Gainesville 6,718 3,024 45.1%

To see where these precincts are, Virtucon has a map of them.  In general, these are the precincts around Route 234 from Route 66 to Sudley Manor Drive on the western side of the county, and those between Route 1 and Interstate 95 in Woodbridge.

Without these districts dragging down the average, we’d likely have between 60-65% of the population registered to vote, which is roughly what the average is for the Coles and Occoquan Districts that don’t have precincts within them that experience much in the way of illegal alien connected residential overcrowding.  Sudley North and Library both have active day labor sites, crime rate problems, and high enrollment in ESOL programs in their schools, and other than the day labor sites, the rest on this list experience much of the same problems.

If I were a really smart official in the county’s zoning office, these areas would be the ones I’d concentrate on, working from the top of this list on down.  If I were trying to identify where illegal alien absconders were hiding out like the one who murdered three people in Manassas recently, this is where I’d be looking.  Putting this list together with the maps of crimes, which match awfully closely, it is a pretty reliable priority list that is based on objective data.

What’s also possible is to subtract from these precincts the number of children under 18 and you can get a fairly close approximation of the number of foreign nationals or other persons not eligible to vote within a pretty compact geographical area.  As several studies (including those on the other side) have suggested, about 50% of all foreign nationals resident in Virginia are illegally present.  Someday when there’s an administration that might actually have some interest in seeing that the law is enforced, they might want to send agents to those precincts as it would obviously be time well spent on their part.

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  1. Colts Fan said on 26 Feb 2011 at 8:04 pm:
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    Good job- work the county should be doing- eh?

  2. Anonymous said on 26 Feb 2011 at 10:41 pm:
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    These are useful statistics, and I’m sure there’s some correlation to illegal immigrant populations, but bear in mind those numbers are far off from the national average of total population vs. voter eligible population. There’s some data in voter eligible population at the website below.


  3. Anonymous said on 26 Feb 2011 at 10:42 pm:
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    Those numbers Aren’t far off from the national average….*

    Sorry, typo in the previous comment.

  4. Maureen said on 26 Feb 2011 at 10:51 pm:
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    Look at the map from the UVA study. It shows the illegal alien arrests in 2009. Greg is right on the mark with his analysis. You can find the study on the county website.

  5. Black Saint said on 27 Feb 2011 at 8:23 am:
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    Obama could add millions of jobs and save 100,s Billions of dollars while increasing tax receipts by billions just by the simple act of abiding by our Constitution against invasion, enforce our immigration Laws and honoring his Oath of office!

    Instead Dumbo,s answer is to reward them and give them American citizenship and Amnesty for their Invasion of this Nation and their many crimes!

    But by doing so he will add tens of millions of uneducated, prolific breeding, welfare Democrat voters! Which to him and the Democrats is much more important than the welfare of American citizens and the future of this Nation!

    With millions of Americans without jobs and losing everything no Liberal Democrat will address the 500 pound gorilla in the room, 20 to 30 million of invading Illegal Aliens taking jobs that should be American jobs and billions of dollars in social services that should be for American citizens while driving our standard of living toward third world status!

    Their negative impact extends to every area from Sub-par loans, Lower standard of living, Billions taken from this economy and sent to their home countries, Massive document fraud, Crime, Overrun ER rooms, Bankrupted hospitals, Failing schools, Property Taxes, Insurance costs, Environment, Culture, Welfare costs, Welfare fraud, SS fraud, Voter fraud, Disrespect for laws, our Constitution against invasion and even Balance of payments occurring from oil and other imports to support the 20 to 30 illegal aliens in this country!

    One has to only look at Calif. which is basically mostly an Spanish speaking Bankrupt state that cannot afford to provide Welfare, Schooling, Medical, Prison cells etc. for millions of uneducated, fast breeding, third world Parasites from Mexico, MS-13 Gang bangers, Drug dealers, Rapist and other assorted Criminals!

    In a very few years it will be impossible to see where Mexico ends and Calif. begins as both will be an third world cesspool!

    Failure to secure our borders and reward the Invading horde for their invasion and their relatives in an never ending chain with American Citizenship will assure our future is an over populated Spanish speaking Slum that is an Cesspool of Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery modeled on Mexico!

  6. Jaspar said on 27 Feb 2011 at 8:32 am:
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    I an taking a evening class at the Cooperative Extension Service office on Ashton. Ave.

    I cannot believe the security there. All the doors are locked at all times and you have to get the security guard to find you an escort to enter the place. It is like a war zone.

    Not your typical Extension Office I surmise.

  7. Anonymous said on 27 Feb 2011 at 8:54 am:
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    Where do you think all the people who built herritage hunt, piedmont, dominion vally etc. lived at. KEEP IN MIND that the republicans have been in charge of the county and state. DONT blame this on liberal democrates brother!!!! This was pure big buisness who wanted cheap labor to build their developements!!! Just follow the money with campaign contributions!

    The ultra rich which owned the land out in haymarket and gainesville have speculated on it since the late 60s. They took the money and ran so who gets to foot the bill for all the little amigos flooding the schools and being born in the hospitals? NOT them. Its U AND I brother.

    Remember, guest worker; amnesty; was a REPUBLICAN idea from good ole G.W. himself. I realy think a lot of u especially Black Saint cant remember that MCAMNESTY was the republican presidential candidate. Its not politics brother it is class warfare and the big money who sponser your candidates could really give a rats ass about your meager upper middle class status.

  8. Anonymous said on 27 Feb 2011 at 12:45 pm:
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    I don’t mind hard working people trying to get ahead it’s just that I worked hard too, and am tired of seeing the area that I finally was able to afford being degraded by the systematic support of those who financially aren’t there yet. The government both local and national didn’t have to pitch in on my behalf other than public education. This was the norm for most American citizens in the 50’s through 70’s, but now everything is turned upside down. You can’t be an American citizen and expect much support from local organizations or the local government if you need it as all have their attention directed to those who obviously weren’t born here. Suddenly the people that you were able to move away from by affording a ‘better’ neighborhood are moving in right next door to you. Not because they’re able to afford to live there, but because they are given support that you don’t receive and may not be paying their way. How is it that a non-professional laborer who works less than 40 hour continuous weeks, and has a wife and three kids can afford the same housing that normally requires the income of a senior professional citizen. And oh by the way, drive an upscale vehicle to boot! Something is obviously wrong with this picture. Something tells me they aren’t paying either for medical insurance, prescription drugs, car insurance, school lunches, taxes, full cost of housing, and food for the family, or most likely all of the above. Guess who pays the difference, we do! Good old ‘Born in the USA’ American tax paying citizens, the ‘documented’ ones. You know, like the ones that had to serve in the military as an obligation to the country for just having been born here.

  9. Cynic said on 27 Feb 2011 at 2:42 pm:
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    “But by doing so he will add tens of millions of uneducated, prolific breeding, welfare Democrat voters!”

    Black Saint, wish I were as sophisticated as you are. Some time ago when I mentioned that the illegals are “an over breeding proliferating horde” I was reprimanded and told not to post anything like that again on this site. From what I understand, when factual prose of this nature appears, the blog hears complaints from various people - probably from liberals and illegals! Since I promised not to do anything like that again, I am not going to do anything like that on this website - even though at the time, I did not know about the ban on discussing “over breeding” on this blog. On thinking it over, I believe the response of the blog should have been: If anything in the above article has offended you, please click here to receive an immediate apology.

    However, that was not the first time I met with a challenge to my position against illegals from high authority. In an exchange of e-mails among members of a Fishing Group to which I belong as a full fledged member - received a lot of static when I took the position of not giving in to the illegals over the issue of trashing a stream near Savage Md. (Anne Arundel Co.). The whimpering wimp liberals of the Group sarcastically referred to me as a “bleeding heart” and suggested in their e-mails that I did not understand the benefits of cultural diversity and the other delicate subtleties related to it. At subsequent regular Chapter and Regional meetings of the Group, I presented my position and no one challenged me or presented a case for the illegals. One Chapter of the Group did, however, organize a trash pick up and proceeded to clean up the mess - most of which was thrown there by the illegals. In fact, for quiet some time, the State Police have had Officers posing as fishermen along this stream as MS-13 members holds meetings along the stream rather than holding them in a more populated area.

  10. Gone said on 27 Feb 2011 at 3:31 pm:
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    Yep, Westgate is full of illegals. I should know, I live here. I live on a dead end street and the house two doors down was just rented by people who speak no English. The house behind me was rented out a few months ago, and all if the sudden multiple construction type vans and trucks started to be parked in their front yard and in the back of their house. I hear Spanish being spoken there at all hours of the night and day, and during the day construction noises can be heard from behind and inside the house. My guess is they are building more bedroom to harbor “guests”.

  11. Anonymous said on 27 Feb 2011 at 3:45 pm:
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    All brought to you by the great REPUBLICAN ideology state of Virginia. As many family members as you want in a house: vigorously defended by south side republicans. The right to contract out construction jobs using 1099’s thus paying no social security, state or federal withholding taxes or by providing unemployment insurance or having to enshure that the contractors are here legaly; brought to u by the BOCS Prince William County, another republican santacy. The right to build as many darn houses on an unimproved state road with no schools: The Dillon rule; Another Republican mandate.

    I am so glad to see that we can continue to blame bleading heart democratic liberals for the great mess that the state of virginia has ended up being. Just follow the money and see where it comes from.

  12. Maureen said on 27 Feb 2011 at 5:03 pm:
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    You know both parties are to blame. But now, in Virginia, the Republicans are trying to so something about it while the Democrats subvert their efforts every step of the way.

  13. Maureen said on 27 Feb 2011 at 5:06 pm:
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    BTW I have never considered McNamesty a Republican. A war veteran yes and worthy of our respect foe that but not as a Republican

  14. Anonymous said on 27 Feb 2011 at 5:14 pm:
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    Gone said on 27 Feb 2011 at 3:31 pm: Flag comment

    Yep, Westgate is full of illegals.

    But I thought “The Resolution” took care of that problem and chased all the illegals out of the county (sarcasim.) Go to the supermarket, any of the big box stores and listen. Spanish is the predominant language spoken and they ain’t all LEGAL,

  15. Riley said on 27 Feb 2011 at 5:54 pm:
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    Good analysis, Greg. Only thing I might add is that the Freedom precinct also includes the relatively new community of Eagles Pointe on Route 1 and there may be a number of new residents not yet registered to vote and/or military families living there.

  16. R said on 27 Feb 2011 at 7:40 pm:
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    Maureen is correct that both parties are to blame. Maureen is also correct that there are changes in recent political trends (especially local trends) but the issue is decades old and both parties are ultimately to blame. It’s shameful.

  17. Maureen said on 27 Feb 2011 at 8:28 pm:
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    It is very disturbing to me that the RINO Grassley is bringing up the issue of another amnesty. I don’t remember which democrat senator he is working with, I think it’s Schumer.

    Our people are being murdered every day by illegal aliens. Our borders are far from secure. Mexico is one mess of corruption. The drug cartel has set up shop here in the US and even in Virginia and we are still talking about amnesty?

    Why do some people think that by giving amnesty to those who have broken our laws will solve the problem of illegal immigration? Enforcement of our laws will. When people know that there will be mo punishment for breaking laws they keep doing it.

    So yeah it is both parties and most of us are sick of it!

  18. June Smith said on 28 Feb 2011 at 1:20 pm:
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    Another source is the Kaiser Permanente Bridge Plan with the Counties for low income residents who are “not be eligible for Medicare, Medicaid, medical assistance, or other health care coverage.” with verifiable assets less than $5,000.


    How many citizens do you know who fit into these eligiblity requirements and are NOT eligible for Medicaid?

    Not only are our laws broken, our local and state legislators are blatantly circumventing the law by “qualifying and determining eligibility” to let Kaiser off the hook ….. and paying 90% of the tab with OUR tax dollars.

    So much for “illegal aliens do not qualify for tax funded health care benefits” Like anyone capable of forming an indpendent thought actually bought into that.

    Is it any wonder illegal aliens are drawn to Northern VA?

    Herndon is hit hard since the council just gave up on the fight

  19. AmericaFirst said on 28 Feb 2011 at 6:23 pm:
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    The house leaks from the roof.

    Terry Lovell. Professor at Yavapai Community College in Prescott Az.

  20. Anonymous said on 28 Feb 2011 at 8:03 pm:
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    I realy do believe brothers that we are doomed in america. If you dont hav skills or motivation to have skills you get to live off the public dole. BUT Goddamn you make 20 dollars an hour and have to pay your own health insurance and your OWN rent and your OWN kids lunches! Where is the incentive to better any more. Hey I can make 10 dollar an hour and get everything subsidized. We have killed the incentive in the USA and we need to make people who dont produce or have incentive be cold again or eat spoiled meat or die from infection. I live in Irongate and go to the store everyday with my own money and see fat portly peolple in sporty attire with WIC check in hand with two in the basket and one in the oven. This bullshit has got to stop. PERIOD

  21. Gerdie Schmertz said on 28 Feb 2011 at 11:34 pm:
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    Ohh Anon, you’re singin my song. I used to volunteer at Serve but I finally couldn’t stomach it anymore. I got fed up with loading boxes of free food into the back of vehicles I could only afford if I hit the lottery. The last time I saw that many H2s in one place was in the parking lot of Social Services. These people are making a mockery of this country at every turn and our elected officials are either encouraging it (the new voting block) or they’re turning to look the other way (fear of being called racist). In my opinion, one’s just as detrimental as the other. And you’re right about who is largely at fault here. Having been in the construction industry for several years, I know of several contractors in the area who have illegal “installers” working for them. Quite a few of the “CEOs” of these companies, those I know personally, frequently refer to themselves as “Reagan Republicans”. One thing I’ve noticed most of them having in common is that they all, without exception, live on large properties with several acres around them and mostly in areas West of Warrenton (Orlean, Hume, etc.). Oh wait, there is one that lives in Lake Manassas but, like the others, he knows the liklihood of the illegals he hired moving into the “million dollar baby”next door is slim to none. As for the Democrats, they’ll cater to anyone they think is capable of pulling (in their direction) the lever in a voting booth. Both parties are at fault on this one. Those Republicans who HAVE been willing to take a stand against illegal immigration have suffered the wrath of the liberal moonbats and have been called everything from racist to Nazi by the Democrats. And now I hear, we’ll be hosting a Million Man Muslim March in DC with several groups who are calling for Sharia Law in America.?. There’s trouble ahead folks. We need to “grow a pair” and start dealing with it now before it’s too late.

  22. Doug Brown said on 1 Mar 2011 at 9:45 am:
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    There is nothing sophisticated about Black Saint ’s reference to breeding and parasites it dehumanizes the target of his criticsm and ends up detracting from and undermining legitimate criticism of the negative consequences of what is an elite sanctioned and promoted gutting of our immigration system.

    Of course, if the breeding hordes are something less than human why would any rational person expect them to be capable of knowing right from wrong anyway? They’re just a bunch of animals, parasites right?

    Going off and insisting on making a racial point of order is an idiot’s diversion, all sound and fury signfying nothing that will force the elite in this country to face up to the demographic disaster they have created. What it will do is further contribute to a total collapse , war of all against all scenario. Sure, in the end, the fools that have led us to this impasse will also have to deal the chaos they have engineered and demagogued into our lives, but in the meantime any chance at all of pulling us out this death spiral is gone.

  23. Cynic said on 1 Mar 2011 at 11:03 am:
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    Doug Brown,

    My guess is that Black Saint rather enjoys getting under the skin of the elites and rattling their cages.

    With respect to illegals, those “fool” elites do not seem to pay much attention either to blunt or to sophisticated appeals/comments from the non-elites.

  24. Doug Brown said on 1 Mar 2011 at 12:02 pm:
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    I guess that’s why they’re fools.

    As for Black Saint, if after having the fools for leaders that we have had for years doesn’t wise us up as to what might make a good, honest leader, then I guess someone like Black Saint is your kind of guy/gal.

  25. Anonymous said on 1 Mar 2011 at 3:42 pm:
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    Maureen said on 27 Feb 2011 at 8:28 pm: Flag comment

    It is very disturbing to me that the RINO Grassley is bringing up the issue of another amnesty. I don’t remember which democrat senator he is working with, I think it’s Schumer.

    Not to worry! In 25 years this country is gonna be so overun with latinos. They always said they would get back the western terratories that were “stolen” by the gringos. They are well on the way. Just go into any big box store, listen to what language is being spoken. Notice how many kids they are dragging around and how many are pregnant. They will overwhelm this country just by shear numbers.


  26. Freedom said on 2 Mar 2011 at 8:09 am:
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    OK, not to preach, but those of us here who agree, talking to each other does nothing to “fix the problem.” Please don’t take my comments as criticism, but as a request for each reader to think for a bit and then, share ideas as to what we as individuals can do to promote and restore the rule of law, individual responsibility and accountability, and an individual’s right to keep more of what they earn.

    If our country is to be “turned around,” we must become active, and as individuals, do more than “agree with each other.” What are your suggestions and are you willing to do your part?

  27. R said on 2 Mar 2011 at 3:19 pm:
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    I find myself agreeing with many of your points about illegal immigration. You and, I believe, Greg and Jackson, have been appropriately careful and decent to distinguish illegal immigrants from those immigrants who are here legally. Indeed, Jackson made that distinction quite elegantly on the floor of the House of Delegates (with that speech appearing elsewhere on BVBL).

    So, your statement about “overun with latinos” seems to go beyond where you’ve been in the past, and I assume paints with an unintentionally broad brush. For this reason I would appreciate knowing that your focus remains on illegal immigration and not on Latinos generally. I hope this does not come across as harsh because I do not intend it to. But your reference clouds the issue, at least for me. I believe the distinction is critically important, and I hope you think so too.



  28. Anonymous said on 2 Mar 2011 at 5:52 pm:
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    Anonymous said on 1 Mar 2011 at 3:42 pm: Flag comment

    Maureen said on 27 Feb 2011 at 8:28 pm: Flag comment

    It is very disturbing to me that the RINO Grassley is bringing up the issue of another amnesty. I don’t remember which democrat senator he is working with, I think it’s Schumer.

    Not to worry! In 25 years this country is gonna be so overun with latinos. They always said they would get back the western terratories that were “stolen” by the gringos.

    Anonymous appears to be correct in his theory. Just look at the statistics below on Prince William schools.


  29. Anonymous said on 3 Mar 2011 at 11:41 am:
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    Maureen did not make that statement, the other “Anonymous” did.

  30. Maureen said on 4 Mar 2011 at 7:44 pm:
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    Thank you anonymous. R you really should be more careful how you read! I have never made a statement like you said I did. NEVER.

    I would hope that you say you were mistaken about the quote you attributed to me. And for future references to a quote, cut and paste the quote with your comment.

    I pride myself on being truthful and what you stated above could have hung out there as truth if I didn’t come back to check on these comments.

    I hope you made an honest mistake here and didn’t try to discredit me or what I do relating to illegal immigration. So call me out when if I truly say something distasteful not something that was made up.

  31. es_la_ley said on 4 Mar 2011 at 7:46 pm:
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    Off topic (I don’t know where else to post it!)…

    From the Richmond Times Dispatch…

    Suspect in nun’s traffic death had offenses handled inconsistently


    It’s on Drudge!

  32. es_la_ley said on 4 Mar 2011 at 8:00 pm:
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    adding… It’s on Drudge as …

    REPORT: Enforcement of immigration laws could have spared nun’s life…

  33. R said on 6 Mar 2011 at 3:55 pm:
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    The post said “Maureen said” so I thought it was you speaking in the post. I did not understand the significance of the phrase “Anonymous said” immediately before “Maureen said” within the same post. I pointed it out because it didn’t sound like things you have said in the past, and I thought I asked in a rather straightfoward manner. To be clear, since you suggested that I cut and paste I do so here merely to illustrate what cause the confusion. Here it is, from Mar. 2 at 5:52 pm (it was the third line ‘Maureen said” below that caused me to think it was you, since “Maureen said” was immediately preceeding the text):


    Anonymous said on 2 Mar 2011 at 5:52 pm: Flag comment

    Anonymous said on 1 Mar 2011 at 3:42 pm: Flag comment

    Maureen said on 27 Feb 2011 at 8:28 pm: Flag comment

    It is very disturbing to me that the RINO Grassley is bringing up the issue of another amnesty. I don’t remember which democrat senator he is working with, I think it’s Schumer.

    Not to worry! In 25 years this country is gonna be so overun with latinos. They always said they would get back the western terratories that were “stolen” by the gringos.

    Anonymous appears to be correct in his theory. Just look at the statistics below on Prince William schools.



    So, Maureen, you are right to point out that I was mistaken, but I read the post numerous times before I requested your clarification. To my way of reading, when a post reads “Maureen said” followed by text, I assume that you said the text that followed. I’m glad you didn’t. When posts have three “x said” followed by “y said” followed by “z said,” it’s very confusing to me and I made the wrong inference and it’s not your fault. Are we fine now or do you sant me to read even more carefully?


  34. Maureen said on 6 Mar 2011 at 7:10 pm:
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    Thank you. It is just upsetting to have something attributed to me that I never said, especially since I don’t think that way.

    I can see how the confusion happened and yes we’re ok.

  35. R said on 6 Mar 2011 at 8:29 pm:
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    Fair enough.


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