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Cut Down on Illegal Alien Crime by Cracking Down on Illegal Employers

By Greg L | 15 April 2011 | Illegal Aliens, Prince William County | 15 Comments

Guest post by “Just the Facts”

The most effective way to reduce the number of crimes committed by, and address other problems created by, illegal aliens is to crack down on the illegal employers who hire them. Eliminate the jobs and illegals have no reason to be here. However, we don’t have enough Supervisors (yet) who will support such a pro-citizen, anti-big campaign contributor change. Moreover, senior County staff incompetence as to how the business license and other government processes work is acting as an additional impediment to making any progress on this problem.

Read the article linked here.

Ideally, all employers would be required to use eVerify and be subject to random audits of their I-9 forms. An easy first step would be to verify that the businesses themselves applying for licenses are legal. The Board of Supervisors won’t even take that step.

From the article,

Martin E. Nohe, R-Coles, had some reservations about adding extra steps for people who want to get business licenses.

‘The smaller entrepreneurial businesses that we say that we want to encourage are the ones that wind up having to meet a higher standard in order to operate legally in the county,’ Nohe said.”

Illegal aliens are taking jobs that could go to unemployed Americans, depressing wages, and committing violent crimes, but Marty is worried about a little extra paperwork for businesses?

County Executive Melissa Peacor provides additional evidence (as if that were needed) about her incompetence in this article also,

“Peacor told the supervisors that there are 12,900 business licenses issued in the county. Of those, 8,900 are issued to corporations that are considered to be legal and don’t need to prove legal status.

“The remaining 4,000 businesses gross less than $100,000 annually and request licenses even though they are not required to do so, Peacor said.”

Not true. To operate legally, all businesses in Prince William County must have a business license. If their gross is less than $100,000 they are not liable to pay the BPOL tax, but they still must have the license. The County ordinance says that. I spoke with a staff person in the Finance Department (most non-senior staff in our government are good people who know what they are doing) when I started a business with less than $100,000 per year gross a few years ago and was told in no uncertain terms that I still needed to apply for the license.


“It would cost the county $80,000 in lost tax collections to divert staff from the compliance and delinquent taxes office to verify legal status of people applying for business licenses, Peacor said.”

What an idiot. $80,000 is about the cost of salary and benefits for a single, mid-level County employee. How many people at a cost of about $80,000 each per year to County taxpayers is Peacor employing to save $80,000 per year in lost tax collections? How many new mid-level staffers do we need to review 4,000 business license applications each year? My take on this is that if we avoid the death or maiming of one, single Prince William County resident at the hands of an illegal alien who came here to work for an illegal employer, reviewing those business license applications is well worth the cost.

Supervisor Principi sides with the illegal business owners also,

“Frank J. Principi, D-Woodbridge, agreed with Nohe.

“’Not only are we losing $80,000 in revenue, we’re also losing an undetermined amount of revenue from those 4,000 businesses that choose not to apply for a business licenses going forward,’ he said.”

Taking your cues from Peacor, Frank? That’s not how you get into MENSA. Even Peacor figured out that businesses with less than $100,000 per year gross revenue don’t pay the tax, and that once gross revenue exceeds $100,000 per year those businesses must apply for a license and start paying BPOL tax. Frank, if the businesses fail to apply for a license when they are liable to pay taxes, i.e., when their gross revenue exceeds $100,000, they are in violation of the law. The County either gets that revenue or the business owner has committed a(nother) crime.

Prince William County must start cracking down on illegal employers if we ever want to get a handle on the illegal alien problem. Business licenses are a good place to start, but eVerify and I-9 audits are critical as well. In the upcoming election, each and every candidate should be asked to go on the record as to where they stand on this issue. If they favor the interests of illegal businesses and employers over the safety and welfare of County citizens, a challenger should be found who will represent the citizens.

Also, we need new senior County staff leadership who understands how business licenses and other important processes in the County government function. Otherwise, sincere, (newly-elected?) supervisors who want to enact positive change will lack the professional guidance they need to do so.

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  1. hazegray said on 15 Apr 2011 at 9:09 am:
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    Congratulations, you broke the code!

    Jobs are the magnet that draws illegals here, and since they can earn 5-10 times more in this country than their native land, that is a very powerful attraction…even guards and guns on the border would not provide total control, particularly if those who get through find “oley,oley in come free!” beyond its limits, like in Virginia!

    Go after those employers who use illegal labor and effectively stop their hiring, and you will demagnitize the attraction, and reduce the number of illegals to far more manageable proportions. There is a term for this: “enforcement through attrition.”

  2. Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2011 at 9:20 am:
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    Yes they crack down by doing audits, when ss numbers do not match, they just fire the illegals, there are no arrests or legal charges filed for using false documents. Employers only face a fine from the gov. The illegals are free to move on to another job with new documents and just wait it out until another audit takes place. Employers put this down as the cost of doing business. If we had more law enforcement, like Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County in all our major cites he bypasses all the PC , he arrests people, puts them in jail and gets them deported this is what we need to have happen across America, if we are to survive this invasion.

  3. Citizen12 said on 15 Apr 2011 at 11:32 am:
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    I wonder if the taxpayers are paying County Executive Melissa Peacor extra for all the B.S. shoveled on this matter.

    In addition to what has been pointed out by “Just the Facts” someone should remind County Executive Melissa Peacor that two years ago all licensed business owners were sent a letter advising them to renew their business licensed in person and to bring their drivers license and birth certificate with them.

    It should be noted that it cost $zero extra dollars for the clerk to look at your drivers license and birth certificate when presented with the renewal paper work.

    It should also be noted that in the eleventh hour some of our county officials lost their spine, along with their commitment to the taxpaying citizens of Prince William County, and scrapped this requirement.

    It boggles the mind when Frank Principi is moved to put so much effort and worry over the potential loss of phantom tax revenue from people who have broken the law to be here in the first place, and yet not even mention the real loss of tax revenue when these very same people consume county services on so many levels.

    In this day and age of spiraling cost of government, food and gasoline it must be comforting to know that the integrity of some politicians is so cheap.

  4. AmericaFirst said on 15 Apr 2011 at 5:17 pm:
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    We are seemingly powerless in our efforts to get our elected leaders to obey the law in this matter.

    However, we are not powerless.

    Do not patronize those who hire illegals. If you don’t know - ask. If a contractor bids on a job for you, make it clear that you will not allow illegals on the property. Tell them to prove the citizenship of the workers. If thats to onerous - get someone who is proud to obey the law. They are out there.

  5. Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2011 at 8:03 pm:
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    Remember, if you contract someone by the hour with a class c license and they are illegal, you as a buiseness owner ARE NOT breaking the law. E-verify is a red herring people. As long as the BOCS allows people to get a class c license in the county, the are allowing a LARGE loop hole in allowing people who are here illegally to work here legally. Virginias lack of employement law allows this to go on. The only construction trade I know of where you cant hire someone as a class c contractor is the electrical trade. By regulation, the four letter word the right wing talks about, in order to be an electrical contractor you must have one million dollars in liability insurance and be registered as a master electrician.

    If we professionalise all trades, we can get higher wages and better quality work while employing citizens. Its hard to compete against a whole village of “family members” living in singlr family homes earning 10 dollars an hour as independant fully licensed class c independant contractors who are no more than illegal alien wage slaves for the all mighty developement community who finance our local politicans!

    This is not some liberal left wing nutjob against big buiseness but just the facts of how the have could really give a rats ass about us middle class people having to live next door to a house full of illegals.

    Hey, e-verify will solve all problems? It is nothing but a right wing RED HERRING political stunt.

    Glade to see you are starting to figure it out Greg as to who let our once fine county get to be such a mess!

  6. Anonymous said on 15 Apr 2011 at 8:48 pm:
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    “….testimony today including a statement from a former welfare worker who described “overwhelming” levels of fraud by illegal immigrants.

    Lana Reed, who worked as a bilingual specialist for the Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services in Overland Park from 2008 to 2010, urged lawmakers to adopt the bill targeting illegal immigration.

    She described a system overrun by illegal immigrants who used false Social Security numbers and other fraudulent documents to game the system.

    “I witnessed overwhelming levels of fraud and corruption resulting in the waste of millions of taxpayer dollars,” Reed told the House Judiciary Committee. “Most of the fraud was conducted pursuant to policies of the SRS, which required employees to turn a blind eye to fraud and abuse…”

    The bill, written by Rep. Lance Kinzer, an Olathe Republican, along with Secretary of State Kris Kobach, proposes several ways to stem the waves of illegal immigrants who they say have flooded into Kansas in recent years.

    “At a time of high unemployment, it is difficult to fathom why a state would not want to ensure that taxpayers’ dollars are only used to support the employment of legal workers,” Kobach said.

    Tom Stoffers of Tonganoxie said the state was being “bled dry” by illegal immigrants who use social services.”


    Study: 70% of Texas’ Illegal Immigrant families receive welfare

    Thirteen years after Congress overhauled the American welfare system, 57 percent of immigrants with children — those in the country legally or not — use at least one government, welfare program… .

    In comparison, 39 percent of native-born Americans with children are signed up for welfare, the report found.

    In Texas,…. 70 percent of illegal immigrants receive welfare assistance, with illegal immigrants generally receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children

    Overall, Texas tied with California and New York for the second highest immigrant welfare rates behind Arizona.

    Texas showed 61 percent of households headed by an immigrant utilizing at least one program compared to the 42 percent of Texas natives on welfare.

    “This is partly due to the large share of immigrants with low levels of education and their resulting low incomes —

    Illegal immigrants with children primarily use food assistance programs and Medicaid, with little or no cash or housing assistance.

    “Say the name, (for example) ‘Women, Infants and Children food program,’ are politicians really going to cut this?” Camarota said.

    The report showed illegal immigrants primarily use food assistance and Medicaid with little cash or housing assistance


    Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare

    Surprise, surprise; Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their American-born anchor babies.
    Even before the recession, immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, according to the extensive census data collected and analyzed by a nonpartisan Washington D.C. group dedicated to researching legal and illegal immigration in the U.S. The results, published this month in a lengthy report, are hardly surprising.

    Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania (59%).

    The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid).

    Food assistance and Medicaid are the programs most commonly used by illegal immigrants, mainly on behalf of their American-born children who get automatic citizenship. On the other hand, legal immigrant households take advantage of every available welfare program, according to the study, which attributes it to low education level and resulting low income.

    The highest rate of welfare recipients come from the Dominican Republic (82 %), Mexico and Guatemala (75%) and Ecuador (70%), according to the report, which says welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents.



  7. Jose said on 15 Apr 2011 at 11:39 pm:
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    Lake Ridge Home Owners Association hires dozens of illegals and when asked about their legality I was told that they were just saving the association money since if they hired contractors the contractors would hire the same people and just mark up their wages. Its unfortunate but I don’t think anyone is going to do anything about it.

  8. Maureen said on 16 Apr 2011 at 9:23 am:
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    Anonymous- you are wrong. It is Against the law for anyone who is in this country illegally to work. Wondering if you worded your sentence wrong?

  9. Just the Facts said on 16 Apr 2011 at 10:35 am:
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    Anonymous - eVerify alone is not the answer but one of the tools we have. I agree that proof of legal residence and eligibility should be required for ALL licenses.

    Employers that exploit illegal labor to lower their business costs and thereby deny a livelihood to other Americans and their families are traitors who should be shunned by all patriots. Unfortunately, such employers have allies in our own community such as Supervisors Nohe and Principi, and County Executive Melissa Peacor, as the linked article shows clearly.

  10. Maureen said on 16 Apr 2011 at 2:13 pm:
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    APRIL 13, 2011 SAVANNAH, GA
    Savannah area McDonald’s employees indicted for conspiring to sell stolen identities
    SAVANNAH, Ga. - A federal indictment, unsealed today in federal court, charged Oscar Lazo, 51, a citizen of Peru; Eva Ramos, 35, a citizen of the United States; Mauricio Cruz, a citizen of Mexico; Manuel Cruz, a citizen of Mexico; and an unnamed defendant with conspiring to sell the stolen identities of U.S. citizens.
    The charges follow an extensive undercover investigation by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) special agents in Savannah.
    The indictment alleges that beginning in July of 2010, Lazo and Ramos, both managers of a local McDonald’s restaurant owned by NTG Enterprises, sold stolen identities to other prospective McDonald’s employees, including Mauricio Cruz and Manuel Cruz, who used the stolen identities to obtain employment with the restaurant.
    Lazo and Ramos were also charged with harboring illegal aliens.
    All five were arrested on criminal charges today by ICE HSI special agents in Savannah. Nine others were arrested administratively for being in violation of U.S. immigration law.
    “ICE HSI aggressively targets the criminal networks that use stolen identities and document fraud to skirt U.S. immigration laws and conspire to hire an illegal alien workforce,” said Brock Nicholson, special agent in charge of ICE HSI in Atlanta. “This type of illegal activity compromises the integrity of our nation’s immigration system, putting the security of our communities, and our country, at risk.”
    U.S. Attorney, Southern District of Georgia, Edward J. Tarver said, “Our office will work with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to protect unknowing United States citizens against identity theft which is a rapidly growing problem across our country. Victims of identity fraud suffer a great deal and the effects of such fraud can be long-lasting if not indefinite.”
    If convicted on all counts, Lazo and Ramos face a maximum statutory penalty of over 100 years in prison. If convicted on all the counts of which they are charged, Mauricio Cruz and Manuel Cruz face a maximum statutory penalty of 37 years in prison.
    Assistant U.S. Attorney Natalie Lee is prosecuting the case for the United States.


  11. Gone said on 17 Apr 2011 at 1:02 pm:
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    I had just a few ideas of what I would put into an immigration reform bill. All of it to me is common sense:

    1. Make temporary worker status for some illegal aliens. They must stand up and be counted for work permits within 6 months of inception date or face immediate deportation. Anyone found to be a criminal alien/gang member gets deported immediately. Permits will be valid for three years and must be reapplied for.
    2. Children of guest/temporary workers will not become automatic U.S. citizens. They will remain citizens of the country their parents are from.
    3. No social welfare benefits will be available to temporary workers or their dependents.
    4. Temporary worker tax for each child a foreign worker has on U.S. soil paid directly to counties where the worker resides. These funds will go to the school districts and hospitals to help offset costs.
    5. No contractor exemptions. All contractors and sub contractors must provide proof that their workers have temporary status and that all taxes are being paid. Contractors caught cheating will lose their license for 6 months on first offense, lose it permanently on the second.
    6. E-Verify mandated for every business/contractor who has even one employee. Temporary worker numbers will be included in the system.
    7. If an American applies for a job and is more qualified for the same position, preference must be made for the U.S. citizen first. If no U.S. citizen applies or is qualified then temporary workers can be considered for the position.
    8. After 10 years a temporary worker can apply for permanent status.

  12. Anonymous said on 17 Apr 2011 at 4:33 pm:
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    So where is the rest of the BOCS on this issue? Maybe I’ve missed it but I don’t recall hearing any of them calling for a crackdown on the employers/campaign contributors. Is this one of those “bipartisan” issues?

  13. Black Saint said on 18 Apr 2011 at 6:19 am:
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    Mexicans and Hispanics sneak into this country because they have breed their selves out of living space and the country will not support their Prolific breeding!

    They sneak across the Border where our Government force American citizens pay the medical bills for their Prolific breeding and provide welfare and education for their anchor spawn.

    They earn more here in a half day’s work than they do in a week at home. The water is cleaner, the medical care (which they get for FREE) is much better, they get low-cost (or free) housing, don’t pay taxes, drive without licenses and insurance, attend schools for free (with 2-3 daily meals included, courtesy of Uncle Sam), get welfare, food stamps etc, etc.

    For all of this royal treatment, are they grateful? OF COURSE NOT. THEY’RE CONSTANTLY FURIOUS AT Us Protesting and demanding More, waving Mexican flags in our face while turning this Nation into the same type of Cesspool & Third World Slum they have created in their own countries, that they are now fleeing!

    We’ve given them the shirt off every taxpayer’s back, but they want MORE. Why do legal American CITIZENS that have obeyed our laws, fought the wars and with Blood, Sweat and Tears built this Nation not have the right to get angry, without being called RACIST by the Liberals & other Illegal loving, American hater,s?

    Tens of thousands American Families Homeless, 17 million American citizens unemployed & losing everything while millions of American kids living in poverty, but our Politicians allow the largest invasion in World history, at any Time, any place, by any means, as Millions of Criminals and Uneducated Third World Parasites march across our Borders to take our Jobs, drive our Standard of living to third world standards, overwhelm our schools, our hospitals, ER rooms, flood our prisons, cost us Billions in Welfare to provide medical, schools, etc while destroying our culture and turning this Nation into the same type of Third World Slum they are fleeing!

    So why shouldn’t Americans be upset and hold our Corrupt/Treasonous/Lawless politicians accountable for their Treason in refusing to abide by our Constitution Article IV Section IV against invasion. refuse to enforce our Immigration Laws and refuse to honor their Oath of Office!

    We should demand arrest, impeachment and charges of Treason against all living Presidents and Pro Illegal Aliens politicians from coast to coast!

    But nothing will change as long as votes and money are more important than American citizens lives and the future of this Nation to our Corrupt/Treasonous Politicians which include many Republicans and 99.9% of Democrat politicians!

    What is a few deaths like the estimated 25 American killed each day by Illegal Aliens and the tens of thousands robberies, rapes, identify thief etc. etc and the 100,s of billions in cost of benefits for the invaders as compared to the Democrats desires for Uneducated, Prolific breeding, Welfare Democrat voters or Businesses and the CoC love of Slave labor with benefits paid by tax payers!

  14. hazegray said on 18 Apr 2011 at 3:54 pm:
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    One more suggestion. If you own any rental properties, do NOT rent to anyone without a Virginia drivers license. Simple, easy and effective…
    PS I do, and I don’t!

  15. FrauD said on 19 Apr 2011 at 2:13 pm:
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    The “Mexican Underground” has existed in Manassas for decades. They have helped to embed this attitude that the illegals are not doing any harm and are simply doing the work that “lazy Americans” refuse to do.

    And, the enablers are everywhere. They come from all socioeconomic backgrounds. No matter who you are; homeowner, caterer, general contractor or even a politician. If you have hired someone “under the table”, you are perpetuating this huge palsy on America’s economic future and should be doing time in prison for your selfish, thoughtless acts. All in the name of greed.

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