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Suzanne Miller: The Class Act Strikes Again

By Greg L | 25 July 2011 | Prince William County | 42 Comments

Your campaign can’t raise money, nor is it apparently any good at attracting voters to the few events the campaign can afford.  What can you do?  Well, if you’re Suzanne Miller, running a campaign for Gainesville Supervisor that has become a running joke, apparently a money-saving alternative is to show up at campaign events other candidates are holding and start distributing your literature.  That was what happened tonight at David Ramadan’s event with Delegate Jackson Miller (no relation) and Senator Mark Obenshain this evening.  I really thought I’d seen it all, but Miller has managed to lower the bar even further than I thought possible.

Pete Candland was also there, demonstrating the adult approach to attending the campaign events of others.  He was there to support David and enjoy the company of fellow conservatives.  He wasn’t buttonholing strangers at someone else’s event to confront them with a campaign pitch and shove palm cards into their hands.  Pete can afford to hold his own campaign events and is very good at bringing his own supporters to them.  That’s how grown-ups act.  That’s how future elected officials act.

Suzanne obviously isn’t one of them, and won’t be one of them.  Anyone who is trolling the campaign events of others in order to do the voter outreach they are unable to accomplish themselves has no business being in politics.  It’s not as if this campaign just started and this is just another case of incompetence by someone who never even showed up to speak at Citizen’s Time during a BOCS meeting until they launched their campaign.  It’s not like this candidate, who initially filed to run against Jill Holtzman-Vogel in the 27th Senate District before the redistricting lines were finalized, hasn’t had time to figure out how campaigns are conducted.  No, this candidate is either being intentionally abusive, or fundamentally cannot comprehend how candidates should behave.

Please, for the love of God Suzanne, put the voters out of their misery and drop out of this race.  It was far better to be an unknown idiot rather than a known one.

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  1. Patty said on 25 Jul 2011 at 10:34 pm:
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    At least she came out to Sudley and Westgate.

  2. Greg L said on 26 Jul 2011 at 12:50 am:
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    Here’s a quote from the campaign lit Suzanne was handing out:

    “Our campaign is about making sure we pass to our children a land of opportunity and without debt. It’s about creating jobs in the county and fostering limited government that operates efficiently on a budget “always accountable” to you against each tax dollar spent.”

    Despite the absolutely stellar campaign Suzanne Miller is running, she apparently cannot find a proofreader for her literature. How surprising.

  3. Patty said on 26 Jul 2011 at 6:27 am:
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    I suppose mistakes of grammar and spelling can be forgiven but what about calling someone an idiot or a bag of sh**?

    Do you really think that is necessary?

    On another note, please give us a summary of your pastor’s sermon this last Sunday. I noticed you posted it.

  4. Loudoun Lady said on 26 Jul 2011 at 7:07 am:
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    I met Pete Candland and his wife last night, very nice people. I did not realize there were 5 candidates in this primary - but from my short interaction with Candland and what I am hearing from people that know him, he appears to be a very good choice.

  5. Patty said on 26 Jul 2011 at 7:30 am:
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    Pete Candland didn’t come to Sudley and West Gate. Miller and most of the other candidates did. Even Wheeler came through a couple of weeks ago.

    Pete Candland has very limited experience. He is involved in many things including president of his HOA and leadership in his church which take up tremendous amounts of time and attention. I understand his job requires frequent trips out of the country.

    In my opinion he doesn’t have the time to adequately represent the Gainesville District. Just being nice doesn’t qualify someone to be a supervisor.

    Also he has the “Mitt Romney” problem.

    Since your handle is Loudoun, please tell us who you like for state senate. Are you voting for Black, Fitzsimmonds or Stirrup?

  6. Patrick in Gainesville said on 26 Jul 2011 at 8:32 am:
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    Patty, Candland forced a HOA managed health care plan on the residents of his Piedmont South Home Owners Association? Wow, your right he does have the “Mitt Romney” problem.

    He is no better than Obama. First he forces HOA run health care as president of his HOA (just like Romney did in Mass. and Obama did on our Nation). Next thing you know he will be forcing a P.W.C. health care plan down the throats of the residents in the Gainesville magisterial district and/or PWCounty.

    Thanks for this info Patty. Its funny how Candland failed to mention this when he came and knocked on my door. Damn politicians. Candland has definatley lost my vote on Aug 23rd for having this “Mitt Romney/Barack Obama problem”.

  7. Loudoun Lady said on 26 Jul 2011 at 11:33 am:
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    I’m not in the 13th Senate district so I can’t vote for anyone. I do like John Stirrup above both Black and Fitzsimmonds.

    Thank you for the very informative words “Just being nice doesn’t qualify you to be Supervisor”. I never knew that. I thought this was a super nice contest, and the person with the best smile and personality wins. You are a real political genius.

  8. Riley said on 26 Jul 2011 at 12:20 pm:
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    Patty, I am reasonably certain that Pete would step down as his HOA president if he were elected to the BOCS. At least that is what I had planned to do if I had been a candidate this year and won.

  9. Greg L said on 26 Jul 2011 at 12:35 pm:
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    This oft-repeated falsehood that Candland hasn’t been knocking doors in Sudley is getting awfully old. Perhaps it’s the product of people’s perceptions that if a candidate doesn’t visit you personally, he hasn’t visited anyone.

    No doubt this bizarre allegation that a homeowner’s association is forcing residents into a health care plan is similarly fact-challenged. This primary is starting to resemble a Sheriff’s race the way people are throwing around false information to smear candidates they don’t like. It almost makes me pine for the days when Mark Messier was actively running for office.

  10. Greg L said on 26 Jul 2011 at 12:48 pm:
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    Another quote from Miller’s campaign lit from last night:

    “I seek the opportunity to work for you and get citizen’s involved.”


  11. Patty said on 26 Jul 2011 at 2:25 pm:
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    I don’t know how you interact with your neighbors but I actually talk to mine.

    No one in West Gate has seen Candland.

    Rumor has it he visited Covington’s side of West Gate if he did show.

    Of course I remember you aren’t too familiar with the lay out of the neighborhood…do the push cart vendors ring a bell?

  12. Whisky-Tango-Foxtrot said on 26 Jul 2011 at 3:53 pm:
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    Troll. You are pathetic.

  13. Lovettsville Lady said on 26 Jul 2011 at 4:42 pm:
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    I met the two people in question last night. Ms. Miller abruptly turned on her heal, and withdrew her literature from me, when I said that I live in Loudoun county. Mr. and Mrs. Candland couldn’t have been nicer, even after I revealed that I live in Loudoun. We discussed my favorite subject, education. Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William have much in common on this issue. Mr. and Mrs. Candland ”get it”. I was very impressed with them both. They understand local education issues and what’s going wrong in our schools. Since so much of the local budget goes to schools, Prince William county would do well to have Pete Candland on their board of supervisors.

    I might also add that the Candlands had no idea who Loudoun Lady and I were, no idea that we blog. They are simply gracious, kind, well mannered, people who understand the issues that face families today in Prince William County. I’d be proud to have Mr. Candlands represent me on the BOS.

  14. Gainesville District Resident said on 27 Jul 2011 at 6:22 am:
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    Lovetsville Lady,
    Candland as supervisors would have NO control of the school budget. The school board prepares their own budget, not the the supervisors. If Candland is so concerned about schools and education then he should have ran for the School Board. Think about it.

  15. skepp said on 27 Jul 2011 at 7:49 am:
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    Hey, Greg L - Since you’re on the gammar police here —-

    Lovettsville Lady says her big interest is education, yet she says that

    “Ms. Miller abruptly turned on her HEAL..”

  16. Greg L said on 27 Jul 2011 at 9:01 am:
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    Huge difference between a random person not proofreading their blog comments sufficiently, and a BOCS candidate putting a slew or grammatical errors in their palm cards. If this candidate’s attention to detail is so poor they can’t get their campaign lit right, just imagine how careful they’ll be with legislation.

    One grammatical screw up in the GA ended up stopping all DWI prosecutions for about two months a while back. There are consequences - big ones.

  17. Haymarket Res. said on 27 Jul 2011 at 10:14 am:
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    I think Peter Candland will be an excellent Supervisor. And by the way, the school board prepares the budget but it has to be approved by the County Supervisors.

  18. Erika Johnson said on 27 Jul 2011 at 11:57 am:
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    I’ve known the Candland family for many years and can vouch for Pete’s values and authenticity. I’m sure his role on the Board of Supervisors will take priority to anything else he is involved in and he will make the necessary room for a position of this caliber. He has been preparing for this opportunity for a long time and I know he would do a fantastic job.

  19. Lovettsville Lady said on 27 Jul 2011 at 3:45 pm:
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    Gainesville resident,
    Where does the school board get it’s money? Do they have taxing authority in Prince William? If not, the BOS decides how much money the school board gets and they have complete control over the schools’ budget. Pete Candland will not give the schools buckets of money to waste on silly programs.

    If the Prince William school board has their own taxing authority, with complete control over their budget, that is very different than other counties around the state where the board of supervisors controls ALL county budget items and they alone have authority to set tax rates and decide where the money goes. School boards in the rest of state do not have taxing authority or control over county budgets. Hats off to PWC school board if they were able to get their own taxing authority. Do they impose a separate real estate assessment tax for schools? Or how do they get their money? When did the citizens of PWC agree to this? I know some democrat school board members in Fairfax who would LOVE to be able to impose their own taxes on citizens. PWC school board members should tell them how they got the citizens to agree to this separate tax and budget control.

  20. Patty said on 27 Jul 2011 at 4:25 pm:
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    For those who live in Loudoun,

    I think you best focus on your local races. Stop telling us who to vote for.

    I stick by my assessment. It is my opinion Pete Candland does not have the time to adequately represent the Gainesville District. He has a job that requires him to be out of the country. What happens when he is not present for a vote? His staff can’t vote for him.

  21. DBM said on 27 Jul 2011 at 4:49 pm:
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    I am a resident in the neighborhood that Peter Candland is the HOA President for. I can assure you that there is no HOA managed healthcare enforced here!! Only a fool would believe that your HOA could even mandate such a thing.

  22. Haymarket Res. said on 27 Jul 2011 at 4:54 pm:
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    I have served on a committee with Pete and have every confidence he will be exceptional at this job. He is passionate and cares greatly about his community. I am certain he will take the necessary steps to be able to devote his full attention to this job.

  23. Loudoun Lady said on 27 Jul 2011 at 7:13 pm:
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    Patty, If you have a candidate of choice, perhaps advocating for that candidate would be a good idea instead of making up silly Romney/Obama HOA healthcare nonsense on Candland and expect people to believe it. FWIW, right now I am going to Candland’s website and making a small donation, courtesy of your snotty remarks. Cheers.

  24. Padre said on 27 Jul 2011 at 7:58 pm:
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    Patty NEVER said that Pete Candland introduced HOA healthcare. LL, reread the thread. That was someone else mimicking Patty. I hear Patty is out working the neighborhood for her candidate which beats camping on a blog commenting on another district’s candidates.

  25. Gainesville District Resident said on 27 Jul 2011 at 8:54 pm:
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    Lovetsville Lady,
    Yes, the school board gets their money from the board of supervisors and they get a very healthy chuck of the revenue. This is an agreed upon percentage. The school board prepares their own budget and presents it to the board of supervisors for approval. It would take five supervisors to reject the school board’s budget. That is not going to happen in this county. We the citizens have elected the school board to handle the schools. The schools hold public hearings during the budget process just like the supervisors do, and have a good idea of what the citizens want. These same citizens will address both boards with budget concerns. Many come out and support the school’s budget when it’s presented to the board of supervisors.

    If you are so interested in Prince William politics, why not move here and run for an office yourself? I live here and my vote counts. Your opinion really doesn’t matter to the residents of our county.

  26. DBM said on 27 Jul 2011 at 10:01 pm:
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    Just because someone makes an OCCASIONAL business trip does not make them inadequate…neither does having a family, being involved in their church and community. If you ask me, being involved is a good quality to have…volunteering your time shows that you are devoted and that you care.

    You claim he is inadequate because he won’t have time to do this job or will be out of the country when there is a meeting…do you have his schedule to back that claim up? You claim he hasn’t been to your neighborhood campaigning yet…do you mean to tell me that you have asked everyone in your neighborhood if this candidate has knocked on their door?

    We are all entitled to our opinions and given the right to vote on the candidate of our choice but that doesn’t give us the right to falsely portray things about the candidates that we aren’t voting for in hopes of swaying another persons mind.

  27. Loudoun Lady said on 27 Jul 2011 at 10:15 pm:
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    Padre, Read above - Patty’s first comment is on the “Romney Problem”. Or is she talking about Romney’s religion or nice smile?

    Thank you for expressing the opinion that people should only comment on their own county races. That is quite an interesting opinion, and if deemed appropriate, 50% of the bloggers, stories and comments on NOVA blogs should be disregarded. I will start the communication to the masses forthwith.

  28. Sean Payne said on 27 Jul 2011 at 11:08 pm:
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    I believe in Peter Candland so much that I drove two hours just to help him knock on doors. It was hot and sweaty work, but we did it for several hours, and I dropped out before Peter did.

    I’ve known Peter for several years, and I have nothing but good to say about him, his character, and his ability to lead with integrity. He’s a stand-up guy, and his tendency to be overly honest about what he thinks is a refreshing change from many other mealy-mouthed career politicians who will tell you what you want to hear.

    Go Pete!

  29. Lovettsville Lady said on 28 Jul 2011 at 12:36 am:
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    I am very surprised to read that the school board in PWC presents a budget to the board of Supervisors and it is always approved. The board of supervisors simply hands over whatever money school staff has said that they want, after the school board has passed it on the BOS. That’s amazing. Why do you need the middle man, the school board? Why not have staff tell the BOS the amount of money they want, since they always get it? Why bother with going through the school board first?

    BTW, I can’t stand Chuck Schummer or Harry Reid. I feel quite comfortable saying that and I don’t live in NY or NV.

  30. Jennifer Lee said on 28 Jul 2011 at 1:37 am:
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    I have known Peter Candland for 5 years and have had many interactions with him through preschool and PTO functions. He has always been dependable and honest in any interactions I have had with him. He gives any project he is working on his all and I am confident he will be more then able to fulfill his duties should he be elected. I also know for a fact that Peter has been out knocking on doors in many communities. These efforts take a lot of man power and time. We should not forget the main facts that this blog was pointing out. The comments posted here should lend themselves more to our thoughts on Suzanne Millers campaign and strategies.

  31. anonamom said on 28 Jul 2011 at 7:00 am:
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    Lovettsville lady
    The PWC school budget is not just “approved” by the BOCS at any amount and it is nothing like the mess in Loudoun with Hatrick. The system we have in this county is called revenue share. The county and the school have an agreement in which the schools receive a set percentage of the county budget every year. That set percentage is something like 56% (don’t know the exact number) and has been in effect for years. It works similar to profit share and when the county takes in less, the schools get less and vice versa.

    Each year the county BOCS sets the tax rate and the schools get 56% of that revenue amount. If the county cuts taxes, the schools’ budget is cut. Then the schools prepare their budget based on that amount and present it to the BOCS where it is approved.

    Years ago, the school board used to send letters to the BOCS each year requesting that the tax rate be set at the highest possible advertised rate but those letters ceased 3 years ago when one newly elected SB member refused to sign the letter asking for the highest tax rate. Since then, no school board letters have been sent and the tax rate is whatever the BOCS says it is.

    As far as revenue share’s effectiveness, it does stop some of the begging that other counties have to go through with the teacher’s union people marching down to the BOCS meetings saying children are going to suffer if taxes are raised. There is still some of that but much less than what Fairfax or Loudoun goes through every year. On the other hand when times are really good, it means an automatic increase in the school budget which isn’t good for any system.

    All in all it is probably a much better system than what other counties have. PWC made cuts but they didn’t have to lay off anybody and they accommodate more and more children every year. There is some fat, just like in every government entity but in lean budget years as long as our BOCS holds the line on taxes, our schools are lower fat than the rest of No VA.

  32. Padre said on 28 Jul 2011 at 8:40 am:
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    LL–I never said you shouldn’comment, now did I? To assume that Patty meant health care is a real leap. Why not just ask her what she means. I would guess his looks but I can’t just assume I am right.

    I am not sure everyone in Candland’s campaign has the entire district’s best interest at heart. Candidates should be careful. Who they surround themselves with.

  33. Lovettsville Lady said on 28 Jul 2011 at 4:29 pm:
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    Thanks very much for your thoughtful response. PWC seems to have found a much better way to handle the school’s budget than Fairfax and Loudoun where we have to hear endless threats of closing schools, increasing class size, and layoffs, if the BOS doesn’t do what the staff/school board demands each year.

  34. Loudoun Lady said on 28 Jul 2011 at 5:32 pm:
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    Padre - One reason to comment and discuss issues and candidates in different counties is exactly what happened above with Lvl and Anonomom, information was shared and appreciated. We have a huge problem in LC with our Superintendent and his hold on not only the BOS but the entire budget. We are hoping for a new board to deal with this problem, but knowing PWC’s system is indeed interesting. BTW, your last comment was completely disingenuous.

    As for Patty - What did you mean with the “Romney” comment? Considering the follow up comment laid it all out with the HOA sponsored HC lie, I suspect it was in concert. Let’s see the squirm.

  35. Padre said on 28 Jul 2011 at 5:55 pm:
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    LL-My last comment was ignorant but not disingenuous. Mobile devices don’t always do what I want them to do. Candidates should definitely be careful of the company they keep. One bad apple and all of that.

    Candidates should be careful who they surround themselves with. That is a little better.

  36. Sick & Tired said on 29 Jul 2011 at 4:35 pm:
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    My two cents. I do not believe that being an HOA president gives you the resume that would be needed to sit on the BOCS. It takes years of careful study of county politics to be ready to step up to the dias. Mr. Candland has shown a lack of basic knowledge at campaign events. I would suggest that he delay his board aspirations until he has sat on a number of committees and built a core of knowledge about county issues. Without that education, Mr. Candland will be unable to exercise independent judgement when voting.

  37. Anonymous said on 7 Aug 2011 at 10:07 pm:
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    Personal attacks against her aside, what makes her any less qualified for this position than any of the other candidates? She is active in her community, has 25 years behind her working for the nation’s defense…
    The truth is that you’re right, she IS new to politics. But respectfully I think what we need to be focusing on is the candidates messages and what they believe in, not who’s friends with who.

  38. Anonymous said on 7 Aug 2011 at 10:13 pm:
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    I agree, Anonymous. It would be better for all of our country if politics was more about the message and less about raising money and who we “like” the most.

  39. Greg L said on 7 Aug 2011 at 10:28 pm:
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    Well, I agree that the last two comments were posted by the same computer operated by some knucklehead that thinks I don’t notice when people want to invent sock puppets trying to pimp their flawed candidates.

    Idiocy apparently runs in herds.

  40. Pat said on 8 Aug 2011 at 8:35 pm:
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    Does that make what she’s saying any less true?

  41. heather said on 8 Aug 2011 at 8:54 pm:
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    Pete Candland may be “nice”, but he certainly has exercised completely terrible judgement running the Parks at Piedmont HOA. I no longer live in Parks at Piedmont, but when I did (for five + years) the neighborhood was a disaster. In addition of the inability of the HOA to follow up on egregious homeowner violations (and I know, because I was on the committee), the HOA was also nearly in economic ruin, largely because of the HOA’s desire to continue to use a worthless management company against resident wishes. While I understand Peter is not to blame for the latency of homeowner’s paying their dues, he and the entire board’s handling of the financial situaion was non-existent until it was in absolute dire straights.
    But, my direct beef with him is that the HOA failed to inform residents that the security guard hired to guard the community had actually been arrested for child pornography and among his computer stash was videos of children playing in the Parks at Pedmont. For what remains a mystery to me, the HOA told no one, even though this man had been arrested and the FBI was trying to identify victims. It only came to light through the neighborhood rumor mill and then an emergency town hall meeting was called. At the meeting Peter was arrogant, defensive and dismissive to a group of about 100 homeowners. He refused to understand the concerns of the parents in the neighborhood. It was truly baffling.
    His handling of that situation, coupled with the handling of the neighborhood’s significant financial woes shows a scary inability to lead and govern during troubled times…and this is merely an HOA. Sorry, I just can’t get behind someone who stood behind such terrible judgement and so poorly represented the people in his own neighborhood.

  42. Anonymous said on 9 Aug 2011 at 11:08 am:
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    I normally don’t post anything, but there are so many lies in Heather’s post that I don’t know where to begin. I have lived in Parks at Piedmont since the beginning and I’ve seen the fantastic job that Peter has done in our community. As President he has provided additional security, beautified our neighborhood, helped implement a strong activities program, and has our community finances looking fantastic. I guess Heather doesn’t want you to know that under Peter’s watch, our community has over $1 million dollars in replacement reserves….all while keeping our assessments flat during this financial downturn. To me, that is leadership and the kind of experience we need on our Board of Supervisors. Last year the Board fired one of our security guards since he was doing a bad job. Several weeks later, he was arrested for having child pornography. And according to the FBI agent, none of the pornographic images were from our neighborhood. I knew right away that the guy had been arrested. The Board posted the information on our community website immediately. I’m glad the guy is now in jail, but what that has to do with Peter, I don’t know. The board hires a security company who does background checks and hires the guards. I attended that community meeting (by the way, Peter organized that one), and he was patient, caring, and showed a lot of leadership on how we could come together as a community. In my opinion, Peter is the right choice for Gainesville Supervisor.

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