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By Greg L | 16 February 2012 | Uncategorized | 23 Comments

We’re overdue for a chance for readers to direct the conversation topics.  Have at it, folks!

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  1. Anonymous said on 16 Feb 2012 at 10:24 am:
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    Vote for Ian Lovejoy and Jerry Carmen in Manassas!

  2. Tobias Jodter said on 16 Feb 2012 at 11:14 am:
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    “The center is a resource for homeowners looking to employ skilled painters, gardeners, construction workers, or handymen.

    “With spring right around the corner, now is the time to start thinking about beautiful landscape or indoor projects. Center laborers provide an excellent value and are in need of employment.”


    More here:

  3. Homie said on 16 Feb 2012 at 11:18 am:
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    @ Anonymous

    Postions please on Prescott House money from the City - do your folks support this or not?

  4. Cynic said on 16 Feb 2012 at 9:24 pm:
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  5. JustTheFacts said on 16 Feb 2012 at 10:59 pm:
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    A real bright spot on the political landscape is newly elected Supervisor Pete Candland. In just his first month on the job he has distinguished himself with two very impressive successes that seemingly had eluded former Gainesville Supervisor John Stirrup.

    The first involved the traffic signal at Waverly Farm Drive and Rt. 15 where VDOT had ruled it would not permit the installation a badly needed signal at that intersection until at least 2014, and maybe longer. Candland went after this issue like a pit bull and showed VDOT they were just plain wrong.

    Candland held a town hall meeting that more than 350 people attended, and he got the community involved in recommending solutions.

    All of this was done while his top staff and County Transportation staff telling Candland nothing could be done and he should leave it alone. Candland did not listen to that advice and pushed ahead.

    Ask any parent who has to take their kids to Gravely Elementary or Alvey Elementary (or send them on a school bus) how big a deal this is to them. That doesn’t account for the new Reagan Middle School that opens on that road in the fall.

    Big, impressive, and well done achievement.

    The second success was equally impressive.

    The incessant flow of hundreds of dump trucks on Catharpin Road had been a key issue for John Stirrup for years. Then County, at the prompting of Stirrup sued the Smith Landfill operator, but the County Attorney staff had all but conceded they would lose the lawsuit.

    A new application for another dump site on Pageland Lane was apparently more than Candland could take.

    Again, despite the advice from his top staff and the County Transportation staff, Candland teamed up with Delegate Tim Hugo and the legislation to give the County more power just passed the House of Delegates by a 100 - 0 vote. Candland then convinced his colleagues on the Board of Supervisors that the County had to take a tougher stand against the landfills.

    Our roads will be safer, and our farm lands will be unscathed from exploitation of land movers.

    This is unprecedented effectiveness from a new Supervisor in the Gainesville District.

    Candland’s election was marred by “Newt Gingrich” style angry Republican Martha Hendley, who led a group of old-guard Republicans to support Democrat Ann Wheeler in an attempt to defeat Candland in the General Election. All that because this upstart Candland beat Hendley in the Republican Primary and stripped the Queen Matriarch of her entitlement to replace Stirrup.

    All that nastiness didn’t faze a consistent, well-developed campaign ground game put together by Candland, and he apparently hasn’t stopped grinding away since.

    Let’s hope he keeps it up.

    Gainesville District looks like it has the real deal in Pete Candland.

    [Ed note: this is not the same person who used the alias “Just The Facts” in earlier threads.]

  6. Gone said on 17 Feb 2012 at 1:11 pm:
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    Why no mention of the illegal alien murderer from earlier this week in Manassas? The guy stabbed a guy to death.

  7. Just the Facts said on 17 Feb 2012 at 2:32 pm:
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    Greg - thank you for the clarification in your Ed. note. I wish newly-elected Supervisor Candland well, and agree that his work on the traffic signal and the dump trucks is a good start in what I hope will be a successful tenure as Gainesville Supervisor.

    However, I continue to be dismayed by these mindless attacks against Martha Hendley, even after the election is nearly four months over. Martha has worked hard to serve this community for decades, even when some of our current officials didn’t even have their driver’s license yet. She deserves better treatment. I’m going to give Peter the benefit of the doubt and assume he didn’t know about or approve what was written above.

  8. JustTheFacts ver 2 said on 17 Feb 2012 at 4:23 pm:
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    I have no problem with honoring any dedicated Republican for years of service, and certainly Martha has done that.

    My problem is that when an election is held in a Republican Primary, and a candidate such as Martha loses, they have not right to sit on their hands and do nothing for the candidate that the majority of Republicans favored. But Martha went a step farther — and a big step at that — by encouraging her supporters to work for and vote for Ann Wheeler.

    There is NOTHING Ann Wheeler was promoting that resembled the kind of limited government or responsible spending philosophy held by Republicans. The final election results proved that.

    But Martha Hendley chose her own angry path, and for that she EARNS the judgment that loyal Republicans are entitled to make.

    Losing is disappointing. Helping a Democrat over a Republican is just mean-spirited.

    Pete Candland deserved far better treatment than he got from Martha. A host of elected and non-elected Republicans pleaded with Martha to bury the hatchet and support Candland.

    She refused every request.

    So let’s honor Martha for her long service to the community. She certainly deserves that.

    She does not deserve any kudos for being a Republican leader. She forfeited that in the last election.

  9. Just the Facts said on 17 Feb 2012 at 4:36 pm:
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    JustTheFacts ver 2 - As I recall, Martha came under some very vicious attacks also calling her a left-winger, etc. and suffered attempts to discredit her for signing the Rural Crescent pledge, as did two other conservative Republicans who were running in the primaries last year, and as did Corey at least twice. Don’t try to dump all the blame for a negative campaign on Martha.

    In any event, that election is over, Peter won, and the vast majority of Republicans, including myself who supported Martha, hope he succeeds. Why are you now pulling scabs off old wounds when Republicans should be putting that election behind them and uniting to defeat Obama, hold the House and take the Senate? Why can’t you just post about Peter’s successes since taking office? What’s the point of the continued vitriol against Martha?

  10. JustTheFacts ver 2 said on 17 Feb 2012 at 5:36 pm:
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    Okay, Martha can continue to spew her anti-Candland message, but the rest of us have to ignore it?

    I have been told by Republican leaders that they asked Martha to sit down with Candland, bury the hatchet, and work together for the good of the party.

    Martha said no.

    That is her right to do so. But her supporters cannot excuse her behavior because the campaign got a little rough.

    Candland got a lot of very nasty attacks too.

    Campaigns are a contact sport. Martha needs to put it behind her and take the high road.

    Until then, sorry, she gets no love here.

  11. Greg L said on 17 Feb 2012 at 11:44 pm:
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    I think it’s time to bury the hatchet on this one. The election is long over. Perpetuating any hard feelings just perpetuates a needless fracture, and doesn’t serve anyone.

  12. Allison said on 18 Feb 2012 at 4:55 am:
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    I think Candland’s vote at his first BOCS meeting on the Oaks is very telling. He voted against Mike May’s wishes - against the citizens- and for the developers.

    And let us analyze facts - such as “truth squads” and the “facts” perpetrated by Media Matters.

    A person’s version of the “facts” is often times that person’s opinion.

    As for Martha Hendley, if you don’t agree with someone’s principles or lack thereof, you should not be faulted for not supporting them.

  13. Pat said on 18 Feb 2012 at 6:49 am:
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    before Candland is given credit for Waverly farm drive - the solution is a mess. What VDOT agreed to - was to open the road for a right turn off of 15 ONLY, and IN only - no out. What this does is still forces the school traffic to drive through 5 miles of Dominion Valley to get back out.

    If he was proposing a good proposal - it would have been to have Waverly open in both directions, and available to southbound 15 only (ie, no left turn out of Waverly). Poor planning on everyone’s part in that a road does get built, but then is not usable because a light was not factored in. Where the real blunder is - is that the county did not force Toll Brothers to locate Waverly farm drive at the intersection of Long Park where a light already exists.

  14. freedom said on 18 Feb 2012 at 8:53 am:
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    Unfortunately, two Republicans killed Virginia voter registration by political affiliation.

  15. Red,White and Blue said on 18 Feb 2012 at 11:03 pm:
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    I am tired of the well-paid teachers (insidenova.com have PWC teacher’s BASE pay posted not including any extras, bennies and retirement) and their so called “Work to the Rule” garbage. As a former employer I have been the recipient of their “product”. As work and revenues are down over the last few years, excepting federal employees, I am so sorry they have to suffer along with many of us. The schools already get well over 50% of our hard earned taxes but that is never enough.
    If we all worked to the rule as they insist on how disappointed they would be! I see base pay of many over 60K and higher and again, that is BASE only. Stop the whining and work on a better final product and not punish us and the students.
    Isn’t a wonder how well private schools do compared to public schools and they do not receive ANY taxes. Giving any school “authority” to tax is nothing more than stupidity.

  16. freedom said on 19 Feb 2012 at 6:54 am:
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    I agree RW&B. However, I wouldn’t mind teachers (and staff) receiving a graduated, performance-based salary increase so long as the number of teachers receiving TOP increase (those most effective…perhaps the top 10%) was equal to the number of teachers receiving NO increase (those least effective…perhaps the bottom 10%).

    Such a system would encourage maximum effort/performance by the teachers, suggest career change for those either unwilling or unable to improve, and with the outlook for top salary potential by new teachers, improve recruiting success.

    Continually rewarding teachers based upon how long they’ve been regretfully and ungraciously “slugging away at it” instead of how well they perform simply sucks up tax dollars, brings no incentive for teacher improvement, and fails to yield the kind of motivation and education that our students deserve.

    While a merit based bonus is nice for the “achievers,” too many teachers are satisfied with equal salary increase based upon unequal performance — “that’s good enough for me, why do more”? Salary increase dollars should go to those who perform, not to those who are comfortably lounging in mediocrity.

  17. Doug Brown said on 19 Feb 2012 at 9:41 pm:
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    Ian Lovejoy is on the city’s Architectural Review Board (ARB) which just voted NOT to use City funds to save the house for the absentee owner. I believe it was unanimous among members present.

    I don’t know what Carmen’s position is on house but I would suspect he would be strongly against city funds being used.

  18. Citizen-Veteran said on 20 Feb 2012 at 10:22 am:
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    Did anyone notice the story about Obama giving up Alaskan Islands to Russia? This is a switch . . . from Seward’s Folly to Obama’s Folly?

    See: http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/

  19. Steven said on 20 Feb 2012 at 5:02 pm:
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    @Freedom: As a HS Assistant Principal, I just want to say that I completely agree with you. Well said.

  20. Jerry Carman said on 20 Feb 2012 at 9:37 pm:
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    That is correct Doug, I would not vote for spending one dollar of our tax dollars to bail out the absentee owner of the Prescott house.

  21. citizenofmanassas said on 21 Feb 2012 at 8:46 am:
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    Illegal alien is suspect in terror bombing attempt. I’d like to know if this guy has a criminal record. Often the defenders of illegal aliens say non violent illegal aliens should be given a pass. Yup, a pass to stay undetectec until they want to blow up the Seat of Federal Government.

  22. freedom said on 22 Feb 2012 at 11:14 am:
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    @Steven: Unfortunately most teachers abhor the idea of “pay for performance”…and our school board, well, you know how that goes.

  23. citizenofmanassas said on 29 Feb 2012 at 7:53 am:
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    Here is a movie that should be a little different than that pro-illegal alien movie put out a couple of years ago. http://www.theycometoamerica.com/

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